A Humor Intolerant Nation
posted at 10:47 am on March 16, 2011 by Jazz Shaw
[ Political Correctness ]
When the phone rang in my hotel room that afternoon as I prepared to leave for my second shift duties I wasn’t at all surprised to hear the voice of one of my co-workers. He frequently called to check in and see what was going on. He opened, as frequently happened, with a joke.
“Hey, do you know why engineers at NASA drink Sprite?”
When I sighed and admitted I did not, he said, “Because they can’t get seven up.”
Today that quip might not make sense to many of you reading this. Of course, it will when I put it in context and you find out that the date was January 29, 1986 – the day after the Challenger blew up with seven astronauts on board and fell from the sky.
Shocked? Outraged? Well save a little of your anger for me. I laughed.
It wasn’t one of those deep, belly laughs that errupt during a particularly good stand-up routine or a stifled squeak you might let slip at an off color joke. Rather it was the wry, resigned type of laugh you hear when somebody breaks the tension of an uncomfortable, stunning moment when you just don’t know what else to say. The joke was something which used to be more common: dark humor.
But in today’s politically charged climate, such things are becoming darned near a capital offense. We saw this in action this week when Gilbert Gottfried lost his job as the voice of the Aflac duck after tweeting some ill timed jokes relating to the tsunami in Japan. Shortly thereafter, Haley Barbour’s press secretary had to resign after e-mailing the following comment:
“Otis Redding posthumously received a gold record for his single, (Sittin’ on) The Dock of the Bay. (Not a big hit in Japan right now.) “
Even rapper 50 Cent – not exactly known as a paragon of good taste and demure social commentary – found himself having to offer a half-hearted apology on Twitter after rattling off a couple of tsunami jokes.
What’s happening to us? Are we really that easily put off our feed? When faced with unspeakable tragedy such as we’ve witnessed recently, do we really prefer to gnash our teeth, rend our clothes and wander around in a daze? There are some people – including yours truly – who find relief from such horrors in dark humor and a “what the heck are ya gonna do?” sort of attitude.
I didn’t find the Otis Redding joke particularly funny, but it also wasn’t some sort of slander against the Japanese. It’s disappointing that Barbour felt compelled to toss his press sec. under the bus so quickly to avoid damage to his presidential aspirations. And for the record, I’ve never found Gottfried particularly funny. His voice grates on my nerves and his stand-up acts are repetitive and irritating. But he’s a comedian, and one who is known for not being particularly careful in terms of political correctness. Aflac knew that when they hired him, or they should have.
Obviously there are lines which polite society shouldn’t cross, particularly when the “jokes” are personal attacks against a specific individual. But even then we seem to be pretty selective about who deserves protection. Remember when New York Giants player Plaxico Burress accidentally shot himslef in the thigh when he brought an illegal handgun into a bar? The guy was in the hospital with a fairly serious injury but the yucks were certainly going around the country within 24 hours.
Both my regular readers and my friends who know me personally are well aware that I have a rather caustic, wry sense of humor. It’s just how I operate. We’re all wired differently. During the last major stock market crash, when everyone’s 401Ks were turning into 201Ks, one of my friends commented on how, during the crash of the Great Depression, there were Wall Street investors throwing themselves out of windows in New York City.
I said, “Certainly gives a new meaning to ‘It’s raining men,’ doesn’t it?”
So sue me.
Everyone deals with stress, shock and horror in their own way. And for some people that involves dark humor. The cries to break out the pitchforks whenever somebody makes a joke that we may not find particularly funny is just another example of political correctness run off the rails.









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The Monster on March 16, 2011 at 11:01 AM
Free speech is awesome. It gives you every right to tell and laugh at crude, tasteless, inhuman jokes.
And it gives me the right to call you an unfeeling, hateful son of a bi+[h.
RegularJoe on March 16, 2011 at 11:19 AM
And it gives me the right to point out that you should talk to a surgeon about getting that broom handle out of your behind.
gryphon202 on March 16, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Sure, crude/tasteless/off-color humor is always cute, until “your group” are the butt of the joke. Then it’s crossing some arbitrary line.
On the other hand, being a victim (even if it’s a flippant joke) is empowering in our society nowadays.
Jeddite on March 16, 2011 at 11:30 AM
Dark humor has its place…..but not so close to the actual event. Once the victims have gotten over the trouble and are looking to the future it might be OK.
VBMax on March 16, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Here’s a good litmus test for where you fall on the issue:
Why didn’t Superman save the World Trade Center?
Because he was in a wheelchair.
MadisonConservative on March 16, 2011 at 12:09 PM
So how late is late enough? Who gets to decide? And what’s the punishment for violating “the rule?”
gryphon202 on March 16, 2011 at 12:14 PM
If a broom handle makes me a better, more compassionate person, I may just go look for a mop, too.
And let’s not forget, in our disdain for America’s “cult of victimhood”, that there ARE actual victims in this world. You want to laugh at the lady who’s suing the preschool for ruining her kids chance at Harvard? I’m right there with you. But these are real people, thousands of lives snuffed out. It takes a special kind of heartless bas+ard to think their lives are fodder for jokes.
RegularJoe on March 16, 2011 at 12:17 PM
There’s no “rules”; but that doesn’t mean people don’t get to assess one another for their character. It’s just their opinions, the importance of which only the individual can decide. Happily for you, there’s not a reason in the world for my opinion of you to matter.
There was a time when people erred on the side of good taste. Many times I’ve thought of something clever to say, but knew that it was likely to be disturbing to the person I was talking to. So, at the LEAST out of consideration for that person, I left it alone. (And quite a few times I’ve failed in this, too, and said the thing I shouldn’t have; which I deeply regret).
RegularJoe on March 16, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Black humour is my speciality. Mostly self depriciating.
“We all make mistakes, I have the wedding rings to prove it.”
“I can’t go to the beach anymore. Everytime I do, those frakkers from Greenpeace try to toss me in the ocean.”
“Of course I’m evil! Ask either of my ex-wives!”
“I’d take in a Japanese Tsunami surviror or two, between 18-30. female, cute…”
Heck, when I mentioned Ms. Malkin’s missing cousin to my coworkers I said “Let me start with this qualifier; she’s not in my closet…”*
So yes, when faced with horror, you can turn your head and laugh, or you can suck it up, laugh, and move on.
*And at this point, I don’t know whether to hope she *has* been abducted, or if it would be more merciful that something final happened.
The_Livewire on March 16, 2011 at 12:30 PM
I don’t often agree with Jazz but in this case he hit one of my pet peeves. Why must we be so quick to castigate those we disagree with?
Don’t like someone’s dark humor? Tune him out! But by all means, STFU about it! We all seem to be self-anointed thought police these days.
Sure, Gottfried has a right to free speech and you have an equal right to ignore him.
Ever hear someone who is constantly complaining about how trashy TV shows are? Next time you hear that look them in the eye and ask them why are you still watching it then?
Even conservatives have fallen to this ailment that gets everyone so easily offended.
And I’m sick and tired of everyone complaining of how sick and tired they are….
Ace ODale on March 16, 2011 at 12:38 PM
Your feelings of regret are a personal problem. Whether someone should lose a job over this is another matter entirely. (And yes, I’m well aware that AFLAC or any other business is well within their rights to drop employees for whatever reasons. Just because they can doesn’t necessarily mean they should.)
gryphon202 on March 16, 2011 at 12:39 PM
I use to be funny.
Jazz, I share your sense of the dark side of humor, I’ve used it against myself as I have a few traits that even I know can be amusing if put the right way.
Now everyone is so afraid to offend someone that we don’t even make the joke…well lefties do because they get a pass if it’s against the right leaning white Christian middle class…then it’s funny.
SoCalOilMan on March 16, 2011 at 12:39 PM
And here we cut to the heart of the matter:
/prude
gryphon202 on March 16, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Exactly. And just because you can tell tasteless jokes doesn’t mean you should.
I’m a little amazed at people who adamantly defend not only their right but their rightNESS in telling tasteless jokes, who seem to think I’m out of line for simply voicing a contrary opinion. You “dark humor” guys can dish out the hate big time, but you don’t take simple disagreement very well.
RegularJoe on March 16, 2011 at 12:45 PM
It’s a possibility that I thumb my nose at gallows humor because I’m a better person; but that’s (a) not what I said, and (b) not what I meant, and (c) up to God alone to decide.
What I’m saying is that it is better to be compassionate than hateful, and if it takes a broom handle to make that improvement in me, then that’s fine with me. You guys might have some other character traits I don’t know about that put you head and shoulders above me. But this sort of “humor” does not speak well of you.
RegularJoe on March 16, 2011 at 12:49 PM
I don’t propose that anyone should be AFRAID to offend. I’m not AFRAID to blow my nose in my hands and wipe it on the wall at the local restaurant — but I wouldn’t do it, because I don’t wish to offend people. It is simply good manners to try not to offend. That used to be the norm. People might tell these “dark jokes” among friends who knew them well, but there was always some shame in doing it — and you surely wouldn’t “tweet” it to heaven knows who.
And, btw, self-deprecating humor is always acceptable in my book. In fact, my personal test for humor is, “would the person or group being discussed find it humorous?” If so, it’s fair game; if not (unless the person is being a twit or worse, and actually deserves derision), it’s best to hold back.
RegularJoe on March 16, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Prude prude prude! I’d tell you just what you could do with your sanctimonious claptrap, but it might offend someone, and I know you wouldn’t find it funny, so I’ll just leave it there.
gryphon202 on March 16, 2011 at 12:57 PM
Boy…if you find being called prudish to be hateful, you need to grow a thicker skin.
gryphon202 on March 16, 2011 at 12:58 PM
Dude, I really don’t care about being called a prude. I called you much worse, and don’t consider that hateful, either. I’m talking about thinking it’s okay to joke about tens of thousands of people being killed.
RegularJoe on March 16, 2011 at 1:09 PM
And as I’ve already said, I don’t really care about your opinion of me. Let fly if you like. At least you’ll be doing it to my face, not giggling about me behind my back like a bunch of seventh grade girls, as would be the case with tsunami jokes.
RegularJoe on March 16, 2011 at 1:11 PM
The Dance of Genghis Cohn
by Roman Gary
Humor doesn’t get any blacker than that told by Holocaust survivors. Of course, they have the standing to do so. The rest of us don’t.
rokemronnie on March 16, 2011 at 1:20 PM
I don’t anything about any folks here but I can tell you that life can put you into situations that any humor breaks the tension. The type of situations that if you take an honest assessment and think about it you will have a serious breakdown. Black, white, green or purple humor, it doesn’t matter. You have to be able to laugh or go crazy.
Claimsratt on March 16, 2011 at 1:30 PM
You know whats coming next with all this radiation being released into the ocean off Japan?
GODZILLA!!
/ hows that?
Sefton on March 16, 2011 at 1:45 PM
So how late is late enough? Who gets to decide? And what’s the punishment for violating “the rule?”
gryphon202 on March 16, 2011 at 12:14 PM
Well that’s for you to decide. This isn’t about supressing speech; It’s whether you consider something tasteless or not. I don’t always find dark “humor” to be funny.
VBMax on March 16, 2011 at 3:38 PM
Minor (…) confession: when I read the story about Scott Brown’s molestation claim, the second thought after “oh that’s horrendous” was “well in the pedo’s defence, he was probably a sexy kid.”
Whether that’s appropriate to air on, er, Hot Air, or in a capacity as anything other than that of a professional comedian and/or quasi-anonymous @hole commenter…
Grunchy Cranola on March 16, 2011 at 4:28 PM
I think I’ve gained some insight on this subject during the thread. Dark humor is not actually “funny” but it can be clever. And that is what we appreciate about it much in the way we appreciate a good pun. (even if we groan)
But, I don’t know if I’ll ever appreciate it if it’s based upon genocide or some such thing.
VBMax on March 16, 2011 at 5:00 PM
How is insulting someone “simple disagreement”? Says a lot about you that you can’t tell the difference.
MadisonConservative on March 16, 2011 at 5:01 PM
My current favorite joke. Note I am a three tour Viet Nam War Veteran currently in Viet Nam and the joke was told me by a former VC and current drinking buddy. Note, the joke turns on the Vietnamese word “Da” pronounced “yeah.” “Da” is a politeness indicator. “Da phai” means yes. “Da khong” means no.
An American platoon is taking fire from a village, They surround, capture the village and round up the military age men
American Platoon Leader asks the first prisoner, “Are you VC?”
Suspect, “Da. Da Khong.”
Bang! The confessed VC falls dead with a bullet in his head.
After a few more confessed VC Die, a real VC who knows a little English answers the Platoon Leaders question, “No. No, I no VC.”
The innocent man is released and the rest of the village men know the correct answer to prove their innocence. They all survive.
Linh_My on March 16, 2011 at 5:04 PM
As in so many things in life, context (time/place) is important. You probably wouldn’t tell the “superman in a wheelchair” one, if you were MCing the Oscars. Likewise, if you are a foreign aid worker in Japan right now you probably wouldn’t joke about Tsunamis to the people you are trying to help. That’s where judgement and taste come in.
VBMax on March 16, 2011 at 6:02 PM
With all those people swept to sea, I certainly won’t be ordering sushi in Japan anytime soon.
John the Libertarian on March 16, 2011 at 6:27 PM
Sorry jazz, it’s both tasteless, and ghoulish.Those kind of things always have been innapropriate-it’s got nothing to do with “today’s political climate” making it not ok to say something that was never ok to say in the past. The world has changed little. Firings and apoligies only come about when it effects a person pocketbook, for the most part. The fact is, they never should have publiclly said this stuff
I get you have a dark sense of humor but save voicing it for those that feel the same as you, either that or stop complaining people take offense when you say something the majority find inappropriate and you know they do. Why do people think they can voice any thought that comes into their head and it’s perfectly ok or should be, or ever was?
Niteowl45 on March 16, 2011 at 6:53 PM
Thanks for this, Jazz Shaw. I’m wired similarly and support unfettered freedom of dark and tasteless humor at all times (especially at “inopportune” times).
But I’m not sure the main issue is the tolerance of humor. Rather, it is the state of our imagination and tolerance of human contradiction. That is, whether one believes it is possible to feel, simultaneously and/or without internal conflict, empathy while also laughing at a tasteless joke. This would seem to be the crux of why people find such humor objectionable. They cannot imagine the contradiction. Pity them.
rrpjr on March 16, 2011 at 9:31 PM
I think that that hit the nail on the head. At least here in Viet Nam, people still have that much imagination. Back home in America, we seem to have lost much of that.
Linh_My on March 16, 2011 at 10:59 PM
Perhaps we are more empathic.
FYI Otis Redding died in a lake (probably by drowning) and the song mentioned in the joke was released after his death.
unclesmrgol on March 17, 2011 at 1:23 AM
The Origin of Jewish Humor
unclesmrgol on March 17, 2011 at 1:29 AM
Shortly after hearing of the problems the Japanese were having with the tsunami damaged reactors I drew a cartoon. in the fore ground was a man behind a podium saying “We appear to be having a minor technical difficulty with our reactor.” in the background is a mushroom cloud.
Slowburn on March 17, 2011 at 3:01 AM
Oh, for Pete’s sake. “Nuance”, anyone?
It’s not about “not getting it”; it’s about having enough compassion for people’s suffering not to use it as material for a standup routine. YOU CAN if you want to. I’m just telling you what MY opinion is of it.
BTW, someone (correctly) called me on “simple disagreement”. Point well taken; the opinions I’ve expressed are beyond simple disagreement, telling someone the opinion I have of them based upon their opinions. I don’t think that’s particularly relevant to the point I was making, but it is true, and I did misspeak.
RegularJoe on March 17, 2011 at 8:56 AM
Linky? (assuming you don’t mind it being public…)
TASS71 on March 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM
Slowburn, I would say that the cartoon you describe makes fun of political coverups — not the suffering of the people. I don’t necessarily think it’s the funniest thing I ever heard (political coverups are old, tiresome news, after all), but I don’t think it’s objectionable in the way the “Seven Up” joke is.
RegularJoe on March 17, 2011 at 2:55 PM
If you want to hear “Dark Humor” you need to hang around with ER staff, cops, EMTs and 911 operators.
But they’re really careful about saying things where outsiders can hear them.
schmuck281 on March 17, 2011 at 6:02 PM
Some people confuse being humorless with being serious. What they don’t realize is that (with apologies to the Bard) “a man may frown and frown, and be a jackass.”
Also, tragedy – the starker the better – is a dollar magnet. Especially for government dollars.
PersonFromPorlock on March 17, 2011 at 8:28 PM