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What does it take to end a political career?

posted at 2:08 am on January 15, 2011 by

You know what doesn’t end a political career?

It’s a relief, after all that, to learn there are some lines that just can’t be crossed.  That line, according to the MSNBC brain trust, is speaking up after being widely – and utterly falsely – accused of being an accessory to murder.  Now that Sarah Palin is vanquished and her political career has been declared over, we can all rest easy; the public trust has been restored.

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Sonosam, tired, yes. false, no.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Still no answer to the question as to how resigning as Governor of Alaska to make money (since when is that illegal or unethical) is exactly the same as:

* Being found guilty of 11 ethics violations. (Charlie Rangel, D-NY)
* Stuffing your pants with classified documents, stealing and destroying them. (Sandy Berger, Bill Clinton’s National Security Advisor, went on to become a Hillary Clinton campaign advisor in 2008.)
* A prostitution scandal. (Democrat Elliot Spitzer, then Governor of NY, now cohost of Parker Spitzer and David Vitter, R-LA, still in office, were clients. Barney Frank, D-MA, still in office; his boyfriend ran a prostitution ring from their home.)
* Having the FBI find $90,000 in your freezer. (William Jefferson, D-LA, was re-elected while under federal investigation.)
* Being a Klan leader, and saying “white niggers” on TV. (Robert Byrd – D-WV, re-elected until he died while in office) In contrast, Trent Lott, R-MS, was driven from his post as Minority Leader for complimenting former Dixiecrat Strom Thurmond at a birthday party.
* Being found guilty of defamation. (Al Sharpton is currently a radio host, and regularly appears on cable network opinion shows.)
* Plagiarism and an ongoing series of gaffes. (Joe Biden)
* Calling Jews “hymies” and New York City, “Hymietown;” fathering an illegitimate child (Reverend Jesse Jackson, who is still active politically and still welcome as a guest on cable news networks.)
* Being an unindicted co-conspirator in the Abscam scandal. (Jack Murtha, D-PA, re-elected until he died in office.)
* Being caught on tape smoking crack cocaine. (Marion Barry, Democratic mayor of Washington, DC, went on to serve on the Washington D.C. City Council and another term as mayor after his release from prison.)
* Association with a domestic terrorist. (Barack Obama)
* Swimming away and letting Mary Jo Kopechne drown, and offering to help the Soviet Union defeat America’s most formidable enemy: President Ronald Reagan. (Ted Kennedy, D-MA, re-elected until he died in office.)”

Then again, considering none of the careers were actually ruined (although the ones not related to Sarah Palin should have been), I guess this is an unanswerable question….

mjk on January 15, 2011 at 5:38 PM

False big time

or I should just let the party and it’s lemmings convince me that they are just concerned for the country

The same morons who sold us the present disaster

Sonosam on January 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

We know it doesn’t take quitting your job as governor so you can rake in the bucks and become a tv personality.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 12:29 PM

No, we actually don’t know that. Not that we’ve any proof staying in office would have helped her either unless she ripped off the labels on all her jackets and clothes.

Esthier on January 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 4:37 PM
audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM

I suppose it’s an understatement to call this a messiah complex.

Esthier on January 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM

The slightest peccadillo will end a Republican’s career, as Trent Lott learned.

single stack on January 15, 2011 at 8:45 AM

That isn’t true at all. trent Lott’s career was over because he allowed it to be over. Instead of fighting back he folded like a cheap suit. the republicans that allow their careers to be over is the only ones to blame. vitter could have allowed thew charges to end his career he fought back same with Palin.

unseen on January 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Esthier, she quit. that’s a fact.
some of the ethics charges were false and silly, and some were found to be true. those are facts.

Alaska has large revenues and a sizable budget. the cost to Alaska of investigating the charges wasn’t any sizable drain on the state’s resources.

staying in office may not have helped her, but she asked for the job, and quitting so she could help herself to the cash out there is more likely to be the real reason than anything she offered.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Shacking up with a South American hottie when you’re supposed to be hiking the Appalachian Trail?

Disturb the Universe on January 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM

I think his career actually is over. But then he’s a Republican.

audiculous, the correct response to all your statements about Palin quitting: Obama.

YehuditTX on January 15, 2011 at 6:08 PM

audiculous, the correct response to all your statements about Palin quitting: Obama.

YehuditTX

it’s Obama’s fault that she quit?

Or do you mean that she quit because she thought it would hurt Obama’s feelings?

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 6:13 PM

and some were found to be true. those are facts.

No. Not “some”. One, and one is hard pressed to call it an ethic violation. In fact, the new changes to Alaskan regulations would have allowed this “ethic violation”.

Alaska has large revenues and a sizable budget. the cost to Alaska of investigating the charges wasn’t any sizable drain on the state’s resources.

God you’re dishonest. You go ahead and tell Alaskan taxpayer that.

staying in office may not have helped her, but she asked for the job, and quitting so she could help herself to the cash out there is more likely to be the real reason than anything she offered.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 5:59 PM

More dishonesty. In reality, Palin couldn’t perform in the capacity she was elected to, thanks to the democrats. In effect, leaving was a benefit to the state.

Dishonesty and lies … all hallmarks of a “liberal”.

darwin on January 15, 2011 at 6:14 PM

You forgot:

John Kerry talking to the North Vietnamese before the Vietnam war was over; even if not still in uniform, equal to Kennedy’s treason I would think.

And how about Bill Clinton? He certainly gets huge speaking fees and plays a big role in contemporary politics; his adultery and perjury didn’t shame him in the eyes of the public.

YehuditTX on January 15, 2011 at 6:29 PM

audiculous, the correct response to all your statements about Palin quitting: Obama.

YehuditTX

it’s Obama’s fault that she quit?

Or do you mean that she quit because she thought it would hurt Obama’s feelings?

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Oh come on, are you that disingenuous? Who quit his Senate job to run for President?

YehuditTX on January 15, 2011 at 6:31 PM

darwin, Firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan over his refusal to let go a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce with Palin’s sister was found not to be a, ethics violation because she didn’t need a reason to fire him.

The pressure from Palin, and husband and aides to fire the trooper was a violation.

some charges were settled when she agreed to pay back money that she had charged to the state.

so that’s not one charge alone that had merit.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Who quit his Senate job to run for President?

YehuditTX

are you that ignorant? neither of the Senators who ran for president in the last election quit their senate seat to run.

one of them was required by law to resign his Senate seat to assume the presidency.

not at all the same thing as quitting in mid-term to get rich quick.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 6:43 PM

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 6:38 PM

lol … whatever. Sorry, I can’t continue to discusse with someone who insists on lying. It’s quite obvious you haven’t read ANYTHING except leftie talking points.

You run along and spend all night reading the facts then come back in a day or two. The reports aren’t hard to find.

Like I said … dishonest.

darwin on January 15, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Like I said … dishonest.

darwin

you can say I’m being dishonest but you can’t point to any dishonesty in my statement.

if you want to say that Palin’s

leaving was a benefit to the state.

fine.
you want to blame the Democrats opposed to her and say that she couldn’t perform the job in the face of their opposition, fine.

you want to consider why anybody with a mind would want to elect her to a job where she would face opposition from Iran, China , the Taliban, Pakistan, Islamist terrorists in half the world when she couldn’t face a couple of dozen Alaskan Democrats,
that would be real fine.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM

YehuditTX on January 15, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Ha, you’re right, I did forget about Kerry and the N. Vietnamese. Thanks for the reminder.

Laura Curtis on January 15, 2011 at 6:59 PM

you want to consider why anybody with a mind would want to elect her to a job where she would face opposition from Iran, China , the Taliban, Pakistan, Islamist terrorists in half the world when she couldn’t face a couple of dozen Alaskan Democrats,
that would be real fine.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM

I wonder how she’d react to death threats from people who aren’t a bunch of basement-dwelling anarchists and noodle-spined libtards. My guess is not too darn well.

Dark-Star on January 15, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Dark-Star on January 15, 2011 at 7:11 PM

And you have ABSOLUTELY no basis for your guess – other than your own dislike of her. Unless of course you are part of the Alaskan coven of chubby nasty bloggers.

I imagine she would deal with that type of death threats the same way BO does – big mean SS/FBI guys look into those type of threats. Thin-skin BO certainly has enough protection that none of those threats reach him.

katiejane on January 15, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Joe Scarborough was a congressman. Get it right.

mizflame98 on January 15, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Winner folks. :)

tencole on January 15, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Hey audiculous;

Try this, to broaden your understanding;

First, remember that in the past, the path from sitting Governor to President was a well-established path. No one minded if a governor, (whether new in the job or not,) ran in the primaries, and then again in the general election. Sarah Palin’s political opponents changed this pattern, with their relentless trumped-up ethics charges against her. Each time she attempted to enter the national conversation, they pounced, leaving her having to expend both effort and money to defend against these baseless charges. So, for her, there would not be a smooth path from where she was to the Presidency.

Now, she could have finished her term. She could, in theory, then enter the race. But, she would have been handicapped in two ways; other candidates, unburdened with the inability to make an appearance without being charged with an ethic violation, would necessarily have something of a head start. And, lacking what might be called full access to the national microphone, the remainder of the news about her would have been the very kind of attacks we’ve seen to date. In sum, the only thing she would have been able to do, that would have any kind of national resonance, would have been to defend, and defend, and defend.

This resignation, should she decide to put her hat into the ring, frees her from these limitations. And, don’t discount the shrewdness of her stated reason. While some have said that her premise (that of putting Alaska first) will haunt her in the up-coming primary fights and debates, consider this; she will not have to change her answer as time goes on, it’s a simple response, and she’ll have lots of chances to repeat it in the months to come. As the primaries approach, it will take on the appearance of a fully settled issue.

Governor Palin has already proven to be an energetic speaker, a formidable fundraiser, and possessing considerable political skills.

This decision lets her concentrate on her strengths, build those areas that some perceive as weaknesses, and focus fully on whatever political path she decides is in her future. Those who dismiss her ignore her past history and her capabilities.

massrighty on January 15, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Nice work, Ms. Curtis…
Don’t forget, Byrd was a special kind of Klansman: a kleagle, or recruiter, who was paid for each new member he signed up.

massrighty on January 15, 2011 at 8:17 PM

No, we actually don’t know that. Not that we’ve any proof staying in office would have helped her either unless she ripped off the labels on all her jackets and clothes.

Esthier on January 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

That wouldn’t have helped.

In June of 2009, a month before she resigned, she went to visit her troops serving in Kosovo.

Obviously, as their Commander-in-Chief, she addressed her troops.

Noted constitutional genius Linda Kellen Biegel and the rest of Satan’s helpers raised hell, saying she violated the Constitution by addressing the troops.

Obviously, the Constitution doesn’t address this, but decades ago, democrats passed a bill that limits campaigning on military bases. Of course, Sarah wasn’t campaigning, she was doing her job, but that’s how insane Obama’s Alaska Mafia is.

Their lunacy was carried as straight news everywhere.

BTW, they also filed bribery charges against her because a school that really wanted to hear here speak sent here a box of homemade cookies, and when she went, gave her an autographed hockey stick!

Oh, and remember when Greta went up to Wasilla right after the 2008 election and did extensive interviews with her? They filed a complaint for that.

Hell, after she announced her resignation on July 3, 2009, every major news reporter on earth flew up to Dillingham while she and the family were commercial fishing, so they could interview her.

And, one of the loons filed an ethics complaint for that.

Only a fool would think she should have stayed. The Obamabots were costing the Alaska tax payers millions. Never mind what they cost her.

Obama created his own executioner. (metaphorically speaking) Had they just left her alone, she would have went back to just doing her job.

It’s like the blood libel they have done to her now. She’s only stronger today than she was last Friday.

The bottom line …. democrats are idiots!

gary4205 on January 15, 2011 at 9:01 PM

darwin, Firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan over his refusal to let go a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce with Palin’s sister was found not to be a, ethics violation because she didn’t need a reason to fire him.

The pressure from Palin, and husband and aides to fire the trooper was a violation.

some charges were settled when she agreed to pay back money that she had charged to the state.

so that’s not one charge alone that had merit.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Another lie from a democrat. After the bogus Branchflower Report was laughed out of the room. (Stephen Brachflower was one of Obama’s hand picked boys) A REAL investigation was done.

There was ZERO evidence that Sarah, Todd, or anyone else asked Monegan, to fire anyone.

Like most filthy lying democrats you leave off the facts that Trooper Michael Wooten, who was in a “contentious divorce” had, among other things:

*Tasered his step-son

*Been caught on numerous occasions driving his patrol car drunk

*Caught poaching, a serious crime in Alaska

*Threatened to kill Sarah’s sister, her dad, and Sarah herself.

In Texas we’d call each case “making a terroristic threat” and one can be charged on each count. Threaten to kill OUR Governor and you might not make it down to the police station!

The fact is MORON, Walt Monegan was an “at will” employee. An appointed position. He served at the pleasure of the Governor, and she needed NO REASON WHATSOEVER to fire him.

Oh, and while we are setting the record straight, she didn’t fire him, HE QUIT.

The reason that crapweasel is gone was because Sarah had ordered him to cut costs, and he refused to do so over and over. In fact, he actually went to D.C. to try and get the Congressional caucus to go around her. Monegan was disloyal and insubordinate, a bad employee.

Still, Sarah didn’t fire him,. but offered him re-asignment, so he could at least keep his pension. HE is the loser that QUIT.

He didn’t start claiming it was over Michael Wooten until Obama, Pete Rouse and Anita Dunn got involved.

Pete Rouse called up his buddy, State Senator Kim Elton, up and the witch hunt was on.

For a “job well done” Obama gave Elton a make work job at the Dept of Interior, as a reward.

You need to hang it up you filthy lying democrat, the truth is not on your side.

Now go on … GIT!

gary4205 on January 15, 2011 at 9:21 PM

gary4205 on January 15, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Excellent, as is this post!!

Trochilus on January 15, 2011 at 10:10 PM

massrighty, thank you.

that was a reasonable possibility as an explanation for her actions.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 11:15 PM

trent Lott’s career was over because he allowed it to be over. Instead of fighting back he folded like a cheap suit. the republicans that allow their careers to be over is the only ones to blame. vitter could have allowed thew charges to end his career he fought back same with Palin.

unseen on January 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM

That’s an excellent point.

Cylor on January 15, 2011 at 11:23 PM

gary4205, thank you for pointing out to me that she didn’t need a reason to fire Monaghan. perhaps you didn’t notice that previously I had said….

Firing Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan over his refusal to let go a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce with Palin’s sister was found not to be a, ethics violation because she didn’t need a reason to fire him.

thanks anyway.

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 11:54 PM

Is it over?

Kermit on January 15, 2011 at 11:58 PM

far from it. out of office and possibly never again holding one, it’s going strong.

audiculous on January 16, 2011 at 12:12 AM

audiculous on January 15, 2011 at 6:38 PM

One of the other corruption charges proved true, as I recall, is that she let her husband use her office for a meeting.

That’s a hell of a lot worse than the Obama Administration letting the NBP commit voter intimidation without consequence. After all, the NBP are black, and Palin is not only white, but a Republican.

/liberal

malclave on January 16, 2011 at 1:33 AM

malclave, just very different. Palin’s husbands use of her office is something pretty directly under her control.
if the use was trivial and not adversely consequential, the complaint is valid and absurdly trivial.
if he regularly used it, the uses to which it was put may amount to something. supposed he called a state employee (say one serving at the pleasure of the governor) and told that person to do something that the employee was not otherwise likely to do?
might be meaningful…but otherwise if he was simply using the public space for his private business, he owes rent and the cost of the paper clips and styrofoam cups.
his wife deserves to be told to make sure that he cuts it out.

if your referring to the tape of the two guys in Philadelphia, that’s not something for the president’s desk.
small local thuggery. didn’t see anything that was substantial. looked like the local cops took care of it.
if there’s more to it than that, and it would need a fair bit more than that, then it’s something for the Dept of Justice.

it’s not something to attempt to lay at Obama’s feet, unless you have a lot more that what I know about.

audiculous on January 16, 2011 at 2:52 AM

Why do people respond to audi? He sits and trolls Palin threads.

alwaysfiredup on January 17, 2011 at 4:41 PM

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