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		<title>By: Absolutely Disgusting and Disgraceful: TSA Targets Paul Family &#124; The American Catholic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Absolutely Disgusting and Disgraceful: TSA Targets Paul Family &#124; The American Catholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and perverted government intrusion into our lives. If the price of &#8220;security&#8221; is seeing children traumatized, old and disabled people humiliated, women sexually violated, and citizens in general being treated [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and perverted government intrusion into our lives. If the price of &#8220;security&#8221; is seeing children traumatized, old and disabled people humiliated, women sexually violated, and citizens in general being treated [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yakko77</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yakko77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t profile for actual terrorists, OH NO!  Treat everyone like terrorists and that&#039;ll solve the problem.

Ugh.

I just used liberal &quot;logic&quot; and now I have a severe headache.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t profile for actual terrorists, OH NO!  Treat everyone like terrorists and that&#8217;ll solve the problem.</p>
<p>Ugh.</p>
<p>I just used liberal &#8220;logic&#8221; and now I have a severe headache.</p>
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		<title>By: RachDubya</title>
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		<dc:creator>RachDubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boycott the TSA all you want, all that&#039;ll lead to is a bailout, where you get to pay from your own tax dollars to see little old ladies harassed and babies molested.

Land of the free, my ass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boycott the TSA all you want, all that&#8217;ll lead to is a bailout, where you get to pay from your own tax dollars to see little old ladies harassed and babies molested.</p>
<p>Land of the free, my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: jeanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve just quit flying. It&#039;s too much hassle anyway.  I suppose we would have to in a family emergency, but only then. The trips we plan these days allow us to drive mostly and the very occasional AmTrak. Aware that not everyone has the luxury of NOT flying--but enough do that if they stop, as we have, the airlines will see drops in passenger usage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve just quit flying. It&#8217;s too much hassle anyway.  I suppose we would have to in a family emergency, but only then. The trips we plan these days allow us to drive mostly and the very occasional AmTrak. Aware that not everyone has the luxury of NOT flying&#8211;but enough do that if they stop, as we have, the airlines will see drops in passenger usage.</p>
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		<title>By: odannyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>odannyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read about this on other sites and the arguments go:
#1 We should be willing to forgo our rights to ensure our safety. 
#2 Airplane travel is not a right.
#3 Anyone can be a terrorist.

It what order should they be addressed?
#2 It is not the right of airplane travel that is being addressed, that should be between the airlines and me. It is the right to privacy, the right to not be sexually assaulted, the right to not give up my dignity under any circumstances.
#1 It is highly debatable whether anyone is actually safer, so far we know of several instances where all this has done no good, and only because of passengers were attempts foiled. Second there is a slippery slope here, where does it end. How much of your life becomes under government supervision to keep you safe? Under government control? Should it be true that the ONLY WAY you can fly is when you have government permission? That is where this is going, or in fact that is where we are!!
#3 In fact not anyone is a terrorist. On another site I asked please show me, tell me where, when a 90 year old grandmother was a terrorist, gee I haven&#039;t seen that in the news, any reports of 3 year olds carrying bombs on planes, hmm haven&#039;t seen that either, in fact aren&#039;t all the terrorists confined to a small demographic, who have also traveled so certain specific places in the world. DUH?

When we continue using a security system that harasses everyone and is in fact ineffective, you start to wonder are there other motivations at work here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read about this on other sites and the arguments go:<br />
#1 We should be willing to forgo our rights to ensure our safety.<br />
#2 Airplane travel is not a right.<br />
#3 Anyone can be a terrorist.</p>
<p>It what order should they be addressed?<br />
#2 It is not the right of airplane travel that is being addressed, that should be between the airlines and me. It is the right to privacy, the right to not be sexually assaulted, the right to not give up my dignity under any circumstances.<br />
#1 It is highly debatable whether anyone is actually safer, so far we know of several instances where all this has done no good, and only because of passengers were attempts foiled. Second there is a slippery slope here, where does it end. How much of your life becomes under government supervision to keep you safe? Under government control? Should it be true that the ONLY WAY you can fly is when you have government permission? That is where this is going, or in fact that is where we are!!<br />
#3 In fact not anyone is a terrorist. On another site I asked please show me, tell me where, when a 90 year old grandmother was a terrorist, gee I haven&#8217;t seen that in the news, any reports of 3 year olds carrying bombs on planes, hmm haven&#8217;t seen that either, in fact aren&#8217;t all the terrorists confined to a small demographic, who have also traveled so certain specific places in the world. DUH?</p>
<p>When we continue using a security system that harasses everyone and is in fact ineffective, you start to wonder are there other motivations at work here.</p>
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		<title>By: oldleprechaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldleprechaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; like they do in Israel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But, but, but...that&#039;s so &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;RACIST&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;JUDGMENTAL!!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;  And after all, we can&#039;t judge other people (unless they&#039;re conservatives)  because that would be saying that we&#039;re better than other people.  And we&#039;re not, President Obeyme has said so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> like they do in Israel.</p></blockquote>
<p>But, but, but&#8230;that&#8217;s so <strong><em>RACIST</em></strong> and <strong><em>JUDGMENTAL!!</em></strong>  And after all, we can&#8217;t judge other people (unless they&#8217;re conservatives)  because that would be saying that we&#8217;re better than other people.  And we&#8217;re not, President Obeyme has said so.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is deeply distrubing to see a mother forced to hold her own child so that a stranger can molest her in the name of national security, under the threat of punitive punishments if she refuses or tries to protect her from being assaulted. 

The child was obviously not wanting a stranger to touch her, not to say she did not have a concept of not allowing anyone to touch her private area. The TSA agent obviously could care less if the child did not want to be touched by her and appears to be more determined to do it because of the childs refusal. 

As bad as that was, for older children it can be much worse. Liberals and socialist see children as little adults that just don&#039;t have enough of life experiences to make decisions.  The fact is their brain is not yet develpped enough to make rational decisions or to understand consequences and relations. Being selected is not much different from being accused of having done something bad that the adults are not happy about. If they go through the scanner, they know that someone is taking a naked picture of them. An adult can get over that easily enough, but to children it can be very embarassing. They only know that a naked picture was made of them and someone has seen it, maybe even believe they have kept it. There is a good chance they are right.
If they opt out then they get the bad touch molestation, which happens to be no less than a pedophile would do to them to get a quick thrill or thr prelude to an assault pr rape. It certainly is not the good touch like a doctor does. If in fact a doctor did the same thing they are doing, he would be arrested just like any of the rest of us.

A Women who had gone through a traumatic sexual grouping stated that she had a hard time not slapping the TSA agent who was essentially committing the same sexual assualt upon her. What if she had been unable to contain the feelings of being assualted again and did slap him?  Considering the general attitude, she probably would be arrested. What about others like her who will relive a trauma, either form the naked pitures or being intimately fondled? People who are wounded in that way are not always able to just pull themselves back up by their boot straps and go on with it.

TSA has not a prayer of proteting us with any of these assualts on our bodies and freedom. If past experience is any indicator, they will board the terroist with their blessing. It does appear that that they have other purposes. One is obvious, the social engineering needed for socialim to work and the other is to insure that those making the scanner are able to put them in every airport, and other places that they come up with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is deeply distrubing to see a mother forced to hold her own child so that a stranger can molest her in the name of national security, under the threat of punitive punishments if she refuses or tries to protect her from being assaulted. </p>
<p>The child was obviously not wanting a stranger to touch her, not to say she did not have a concept of not allowing anyone to touch her private area. The TSA agent obviously could care less if the child did not want to be touched by her and appears to be more determined to do it because of the childs refusal. </p>
<p>As bad as that was, for older children it can be much worse. Liberals and socialist see children as little adults that just don&#8217;t have enough of life experiences to make decisions.  The fact is their brain is not yet develpped enough to make rational decisions or to understand consequences and relations. Being selected is not much different from being accused of having done something bad that the adults are not happy about. If they go through the scanner, they know that someone is taking a naked picture of them. An adult can get over that easily enough, but to children it can be very embarassing. They only know that a naked picture was made of them and someone has seen it, maybe even believe they have kept it. There is a good chance they are right.<br />
If they opt out then they get the bad touch molestation, which happens to be no less than a pedophile would do to them to get a quick thrill or thr prelude to an assault pr rape. It certainly is not the good touch like a doctor does. If in fact a doctor did the same thing they are doing, he would be arrested just like any of the rest of us.</p>
<p>A Women who had gone through a traumatic sexual grouping stated that she had a hard time not slapping the TSA agent who was essentially committing the same sexual assualt upon her. What if she had been unable to contain the feelings of being assualted again and did slap him?  Considering the general attitude, she probably would be arrested. What about others like her who will relive a trauma, either form the naked pitures or being intimately fondled? People who are wounded in that way are not always able to just pull themselves back up by their boot straps and go on with it.</p>
<p>TSA has not a prayer of proteting us with any of these assualts on our bodies and freedom. If past experience is any indicator, they will board the terroist with their blessing. It does appear that that they have other purposes. One is obvious, the social engineering needed for socialim to work and the other is to insure that those making the scanner are able to put them in every airport, and other places that they come up with.</p>
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		<title>By: jdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s time for this organization to be stopped and defunded.

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/tsa-ejects-california-man-for-refusing-groin-check]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time for this organization to be stopped and defunded.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/tsa-ejects-california-man-for-refusing-groin-check" rel="nofollow">http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/tsa-ejects-california-man-for-refusing-groin-check</a></p>
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		<title>By: gryphon202</title>
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		<dc:creator>gryphon202</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enhanced pat-down to annoy and harass the f***king s**t out of innocent travellers -- necessary evil.  Enhanced interrogation to save the lives of myself and my countrymen from terrorist scum?  IMMORAL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enhanced pat-down to annoy and harass the f***king s**t out of innocent travellers &#8212; necessary evil.  Enhanced interrogation to save the lives of myself and my countrymen from terrorist scum?  IMMORAL.</p>
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