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Obama Administration Pushing H1N1 Flu Shot

posted at 10:18 am on October 12, 2010 by

It’s that time of year again – Flu Season. This year Americans need to be aware of some key facts about the much-hyped flu vaccine that administration officials have already begun “advertising about.” The Obama administration has decided that every American should take the shot.

“Federal health officials for the first time are recommending all people ages 6 months and older get flu shots this fall, instead of just those with the highest risk of serious complications.

More doses of flu vaccine are available nationwide now than ever before.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has always suggested that anyone who wants to avoid the flu should get the shot, said Paul Biedrzycki, director of disease control and environmental health for the Milwaukee Health Department.

‘But the CDC in the past branded flu season as something for the elderly,’ he said.”

The article goes on to state that because of the H1N1 “pandemic” of 2009 that Federal officials believe that:

“The first influenza pandemic in 40 years officially has ended, but the 2009 H1N1 virus is still out there. This year’s vaccine – widely available now – provides protection from three flu strains, including the pandemic H1N1, an H3N2 virus and an influenza B virus.”

The controversial H1N1 vaccine has be included in regular flu shots? All Americans encouraged to get the shot? After talk of forced vaccinations and even a comment about reeducation LINK this seems ominous.

In Washington, DC there have been reports of health care workers not informing patients until after the vaccination that it contained H1N1. Some of those patients report numbness and other discomfort. Loyola University Health System and Washington Hospital Center in DC are among the employers who have made the vaccination a condition of employment.

“Loyola University Health System (LUHS) has adopted a policy to lessen the flu risk to its patients. For the second straight year, the health system is requiring all of its 7,825 employees to get flu shots. Last year, 99.3 percent of its employees were vaccinated against the seasonal flu, among the highest percentage of any medical center in the nation.

Loyola was among the first medical centers in the nation to make the regular seasonal flu shots mandatory as a condition of employment. Exceptions were made for religious or medical reasons.”

Despite the government’s push for universal vaccinations recent reports point to a possible immunity to the H1N1 virus.

“Swine flu no longer represents a major threat in the United States because so many people are immune to the virus that caused last season’s pandemic, health officials said.

Of the 310 million people in the United States, 59 percent are believed to be immune to pandemic H1N1 flu, the researchers said. About 62 million people were vaccinated against the virus, 61 million people were infected by it and another 60 million people 57 or older carry protective antibodies to similar viruses that circulated years ago.

‘It’s very unlikely that the virus will explode in the fall,’ said Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, or NIAID, an author of the analysis. ‘We now have evidence of that.'”

Why would the federal government advocate strongly for vaccinations when scientific research demonstrates a reduced threat level?

State and local health officials have already begun targeting children.

“The Arkansas Department of Health has begun offering seasonal flu shots to public school students statewide.

The program began Saturday with shots available at Carlisle Elementary School in central Arkansas.

The department will be going to schools across the state through Dec. 7 to offer the vaccinations to students in kindergarten through 12th grade. Insurance companies will be asked to pay for those who have insurance — others will not be charged.

Seasonal flu shots are not required for children to attend school in Arkansas — but they are recommended.”

Thank goodness, they are not required – yet.

In the past, Americans trusted our government to govern and lead with our best interests at heart. In this current administration, we have seen a blatant disregard for the will of the people and witnessed outright lying from officials. All efforts should be made to educate people on the contents of this new vaccine and, it’s side effects and health officials should be ready to explain why its medically necessary when other doctors disagree.

Cross-posted from Emerging Corruption.

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I never get a flu shot.

My parents and friends bugged me mightily for one last year, to no avail.

This year, I think they will come around to my point of view.

Why is the Fed pushing this so hard? >.> Did the 10-10 people put a sterilizing agent in it? Is this the ascendant moment for the Eco-Nazis?

KinleyArdal on October 12, 2010 at 11:09 AM

This sort of anti-vaccination talk makes conservatives look anti-science and a bit crazy.

purpleslog on October 12, 2010 at 11:24 AM

All efforts should be made to educate people on the contents of this new vaccine and, it’s side effects and health officials should be ready to explain why its medically necessary when other doctors disagree.

That should hopefully be the rule, as opposed to the exception. Informed consent means that the patient is fully informed of the reason why any procedure (including a vaccine) should be given, and its potential side effects.

I don’t know about sinister or hidden agendas in this instance, but the fact that there is even the question raised says an awful lot about this administration when they are questioned about ulterior motives over something as harmless and potentially beneficial as a flu shot.

DrAllecon on October 12, 2010 at 11:42 AM

My $0.02:

I am a huge proponent of encouraging convenient, accessible, voluntary vaccination.

Got the shot myself (encouraged at work), but have family members who choose not to. I’ll tell them I think they should, but respect their right to decline.

cs89 on October 12, 2010 at 11:55 AM

This sort of anti-vaccination talk makes conservatives look anti-science and a bit crazy.

purpleslog on October 12, 2010 at 11:24 AM

You’re missing the point –
The Administration is pushing the h1n1 based on a “Pandemic” – there was none.
The Administration is pushing a flu shot for everyone, this is a change in previous recommendation with no data to back this change in policy
Seasonal flu is usually not deadly to healthy people – that is why it is a reasonable choice for most people to decide for themselves on flu vaccination.
The issues with h1n1 are unlike the false claims made regarding childhood vaccines.
Questioning this policy change is not “anti-science” it’s not a policy being put forth by “science” it’s being pushed by government – why?

batterup on October 12, 2010 at 12:05 PM

I spoke out in our local and state newspapers against Rick Perry when he attempted to make Gardesil mandatory for all teenage girls. My only concern was the significant lack of a track record for the drug being on the market less than a year. Every person should have the right to decided what they put in their body and they shouldn’t have to justify that decision to anyone. In the age of Obamacare, the government can now claim a significant interest in your health since you may later utilize the health care system and therefore, just as they can mandate that you purchase a specific type of health insurance, they can mandate that you engage in certain activities that they deem necessary.

The guy who pays the bill, makes the rules.

2nd Ammendment Mother on October 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM

This sort of anti-vaccination talk makes conservatives look anti-science and a bit crazy.

purpleslog on October 12, 2010 at 11:24 AM

I totally agree. What’s next at the Green Room? Maybe a someone telling us vaccinations cause autism? Asthma?

I’m getting vaccinated this weekend, even though I already have been vaccinated against H1N1.

Shambhala on October 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM

I am not in a risk group and did not get vaccinated, though I have relatives who did. Hysteria about H1N1 was based partly on a flu pandemic almost 100 years ago. Conditions are very different now.

The autism/vaccine study was proved to be a fraud, but the nanny-state oversteps its bounds with vaccines based on supposed future sexual behaviors of young kids.

Vaccines tweak the immune system and can cause rare adverse reactions. No big deal, unless it’s you. It is unlikely, but I wouldn’t pick an argument with someone whose kid got sick two days after multiple vaccinations.

Feedie on October 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM

Feedie on October 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM

So you’d let an ignorant, albeit grieving, person spread lies to make themselves feel better? Jenny McCarthy is the Sheehan of the anti-vaxers, her ‘authority’ comes from having a child with Autism, but she’s still selling BS.

No vaccines should ever be federally mandated. But I don’t really have an issue with local mandates of private businesses, like hospitals, or anything else, the flu takes X amount of productive hours away from their workforce.

So in short:
Government mandates bad, Vaccines good. 😀

kerncon on October 12, 2010 at 2:38 PM

So you’d let an ignorant, albeit grieving, person spread lies to make themselves feel better? Jenny McCarthy is the Sheehan of the anti-vaxers, her ‘authority’ comes from having a child with Autism, but she’s still selling BS.
So in short:
Government mandates bad, Vaccines good. 😀
kerncon on October 12, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Not at all — she must be countered by informed critics. The world will be much better off when the cult of celebrity is over. It is an abuse of fame that traces back to the seventies.

I think we’re actually on the same page or close. I will not re-vaccinate an inside animal that had a violent adverse reaction, either. The root of my skepticism is the merger of Big Government and Big Business interests (pharma in this case). Ethics and morals have taken a back seat to money, as with climate science, and many other sectors.

Drug research became focused on copycat molecules and pushing an existing drug for questionable uses. These and other suspect practices: tracking doctor prescribing preferences, advertising anti-psychotics for depression, and so on, make me cautious about accepting medicine on blind authority.

There is an unfortunate spillover to parents on hazardous communicable disease like whooping cough and measles.

I had my share of needles in the pediatrician’s office. 🙂

Feedie on October 12, 2010 at 3:27 PM

What’s it gonna be, the pig flu scare or the bird flu scare this year.

tarpon on October 12, 2010 at 4:06 PM

Since I am no philosopher, I’m not going to explore at just which point enlightened self-interest crosses the line into corruption, but a careful reading of the ClimateGate releases makes it clear that this is not an academic question.

FeFe on October 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM

No parental rights
profits will come
despite COI

FeFe on October 12, 2010 at 6:07 PM


FeFe on October 12, 2010 at 6:08 PM

There’s a bunch of questions that should be asked and answered here.

First, is the “controversial H1N1” in fact the same vaccine stock as last year? Or is it, as it usually is, a new culture made to be a closer match?

Second, who decided that the third strain this year should be H1N1? Was it epidemiologists, based on rational, properly supported studies of the likelyhood of getting the disease, of transmitting it, and of being harmed?

I don’t have a problem with H1N1 in the vaccination as long as it’s not politicized.

As to requiring someone to take the vaccine: For people whose work puts them in contact with the immunocompromised and with the sick, alternately and daily, I think it’s a reasonable requirement. If you can’t protect your patients from transmission of disease, it doesn’t matter how skilled or caring you are; you’re not qualified for that position. If you’re not in routine contact with patients, or if your patients are, say, generally healthy psych patients, that’s a different matter.

For first responders, it’s a harder question. I won’t presume to make it.

For the military, there are far more variables than I know. Again, I won’t presume to make it.

Bear this in mind: when you come down sick, you can also transmit the disease, often before you know you have it. If you live in a big city and you are not immunized, you are a free rider on those who are. If you live in a small town and don’t have regular contact with city crowds, it’s a different matter.

As to autism: thimerosol isn’t used in single-dose vaccines, and is almost certainly innocent: Profound autism involves abnormalities in the lower brain, abnormalities which form long before birth. The whole autism question has been asked and answered many times. Here’s the biggest part of the answer: as autism numbers went up, mental retardation numbers went down, by about the same amount. In other words, we were diagnosing the condition properly, not seeing an outbreak of new disease.

Me: I get the vaccine, and I will continue to do so unless there is very serious reason to doubt it. If I get the ‘flu, I will probably suffer more consequences than the average person (of my age or in general) and I don’t want to be the person who passes the disease on to others. Either reason by itself is enough, especially when immunization is free or cheap these days.

njcommuter on October 13, 2010 at 3:49 AM



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