Shorter Virginia Ironside: Most Adopted Kids Would Rather Be Dead, Anyway

posted at 10:15 pm on October 4, 2010 by
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Originally posted at David Horowitz’s NewsReal:

According to author and columnist Virginia Ironside, most adopted kids would be better off dead. As would most children she considers “unfit”. In fact, she says, a “loving” mother would smother a sickly child with a pillow, because the “suffering” of being ill makes that life meaningless and not worth living. She made these vile assertions in defense of abortion while appearing on the BBC’s Sunday Morning Live during a discussion grossly entitled “Can abortion be a kindness?” First, her odious attempt to argue that abortion is a “loving choice” because some kids, in her mind, are unwanted. Her tunnel-visioned, sad excuse for a mind can’t seem to fathom the fact that the children are always wanted, by someone. You know, like people with hearts and compassion.

Not having an abortion can amount to selfishness…

Abortion can often be seen as something wicked or irresponsible but in fact it can be a moral and unselfish act. If a baby is to be born severely disabled or totally unwanted, surely abortion is the act of a loving mother.

I was rendered speechless when I first watched this. Killing a child for being inconvenient to someone is “loving, moral and unselfish”?  So, having a baby is, therefore, selfish? Besides her utter lack of a soul, she is completely morally bankrupt. And I think she has some explaining to do to very happy and loved children who have been adopted as well as to the mothers who, according to her, were so selfish as to give that child life.  My friend, Rick Sheridan, can teach her a thing or two about what an actual unselfish act is. His adopted baby girl can also teach her what a loving mother actually does. Her mama gave her life and gave her A life. She didn’t kill her. She unselfishly bore her and gifted Rick and his wife with a beautiful baby girl. I suggest Virginia look at a picture of Rick and his beautiful daughter and try to explain to her why she would have been better off dead.

Virginia Ironside then followed up her insane arguments for eugenics due to “unwantedness” (it’s so crazy, it needs its own word) by being a proponent of killing children, unborn or born, whose health isn’t up to snuff  for her standards.

And I think that if I were a mother of a suffering child, I would be the first to want I mean a deeply suffering child I would be the first one to put a pillow over its head. I would with any suffering thing and I think the difference is that my feeling of horror suffering is many greater than my feeling of getting rid of a couple of cells because suffering can go on for years.

Hey, you know what else can go on for years, Virginia? Someone’s life. You should know. You authored a book called The Virginia Monologues – 20 Reasons Why Growing Old is Great.  Yet, you’d willingly kill a child and not give him or her that chance to grow old. Growing old is only great for you and whomever you deem fit enough, huh?

In ancient Sparta, babies who were considered handicapped or in any way not perfectly healthy were exposed to the elements, left on a mountainside to die.  Have to “purify” society and all! That was a long time ago and thankfully modern civilization has come a long way.

Now we use pillows.

Gee, it’s too bad we don’t have a fancy, new-fangled thing called medicine. To pro-abortionists, an illness is a reason to kill a baby. In fact, they believe that life is expendable for any reason if it doesn’t fit into your personal plans. This includes life that is outside of the woman’s body. Ms. Ironside, like most pro-abortionists, also fails to mention those pesky babies who won’t cooperate and who survive abortion attempts. Much like our President, who gives them so little thought that he, as a Senator in Illinois debating a Born Alive bill, said this:

As I understand it, this puts the burden on the attending physician who has determined, since they were performing this procedure, that, in fact, this is a nonviable fetus; that if that fetus, or child — however way you want to describe it — is now outside the mother’s womb and the doctor continues to think that it’s nonviable but there’s, let’s say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead..

However you want to describe “it”. Sort of like the suffering “things” Ms. Ironside referred to above. And, not coming out limp and dead. How dare they insist on having the human will to live and the strong spirit to survive.

Lest you think Ms. Ironside is just some lone loon, The Guardian helpfully pointed out what monsters Leftists are by running an “article” by one of Ms. Ironside’s fellow travelers:

The decision is always portrayed as being inherently irresponsible and destructive – Ironside argued that, if it prevented an unwanted child or a child being born profoundly disabled, then it was a good decision that a woman could be proud of. It wasn’t the most tactful pro-choice argument you’ve ever heard (at one point, she alludes to “fatherless” children in the same bracket as the unwanted: that will enrage a few single mothers), but it wasn’t a radical new shift in pro-choice thinking.

Yeah, that’s the problem: It might be offensive to some single mothers. The moral bankruptcy is staggering. However, at least she’s honest. It is NOT a new shift in pro-abortion thinking. This is what they believe and it always has been.

The reason it’s controversial is twofold: first, pro-choicers have totally backed out of the abortion conversation, which has in consequence become dominated by anti-abortionists; second, because Ironside collapses “disabled” and “unwanted” into the same category. This is pretty insulting to disabled people..

Oh, we wouldn’t want to be insulting! Killing is okay, but insulting? That’s taboo! Unless of course, you are one of the “unwanteds”. No one cares what you feel.

Of course Ironside is not waging a war against the disabled: she simply said “life isn’t a gift per se”. There are plenty of circumstances that make it more burdensome than joyful.

They have taken the miracle of life and have made it expendable and burdensome. On purpose. There’s the difference between Ms. Ironside and I, and others like me, right there. We know that life is a priceless gift. A child’s life has infinite value that cannot ever be fully measured. No alleged burden can take away from that fact, nor from the multitude of moments of love and joy, of human touch and loving arms, of beauty and grace, of happiness and wonder.

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cross-posted from NewsReal

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She keeps using the words “loving mother”. Anyone else find that choice of words strange? Doesn’t being a mother require the act of childbirth…first? And killing a living child, even if you believe that doesn’t occur until birth, doesn’t pass the smell test for “loving” in my book.

I think evil Eugenist is more appropriate.

BKeyser on October 4, 2010 at 10:29 PM

When I first heard this interview, I was aghast horrified and gobsmacked that this woman was saying the things she did.

Un-f**king-believeable…

What is WRONG with people like her??

What the he!! is wrong with these lefties, no God, no heart no soul, completely lacking in everything that makes a human being human…

With that shite coming out of your mouth, the only thing I want to do is “lovingly” put a pillow over your head and snuff you out like a candle…

You are a disgusting piece of human detritius…you are a waste of space and air, I hope you rot in he!!…dirtbag.

RoxanneH on October 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Sorry Virginia, but I’m gonna have to draw the line here. There are already WAY too many instances of parents, say, ‘forgetting’ their children in hot cars. Outright endorsing post-natal abortion is a Bad Idea.

Dark-Star on October 5, 2010 at 12:18 AM

Pro-abortionists are becoming more hysterical & more irrational than ever. Unfortunately, there don’t seem to be many pro-life Republicans in DC to capitalize on this weakness, though there are many PLINOs (pro-life in name only).

itsnotaboutme on October 5, 2010 at 1:03 AM

The meaning of Hillary “I am an early 20th century progressive” gets really clear — And this is what one looks like when they tell the truth. Eugenics ……..

tarpon on October 5, 2010 at 8:02 AM

I was just wondering how she would feel about a pillow being held tightly on her face. That is the best that I can do since having had a wonderful life after being adopted at the age of 9 months old, and knowing lots of other adopted kids who went on to lead rather productive lives.

I really wish that I could say exactly how I feel about this KILLER.

Kermit on October 5, 2010 at 10:23 AM

Truly nuts this one.

jeanie on October 5, 2010 at 11:48 AM

She’d fit in well in Nazi Germany.

rbj on October 5, 2010 at 12:29 PM

This mindset has been around since before WWII. They were really ticked off at Hitler, for giving eugenics a bad name.

LarryD on October 5, 2010 at 2:24 PM

When you give one group of people the right to determine whose life is worth living, you began down a dark path. Others here mention national socialist Germany, and it is indeed an apt comparison.

The Holocaust started with “euthanasia” for severely disabled children…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4

18-1 on October 5, 2010 at 2:57 PM

See, children aren’t dogs, because children are human beings. This woman is only the beginning, because next thing you know, there are going to be professors saying that it is acceptable to kill kids because they are sick. Next thing you know, this will be taught in the Theory of Evolution. Since the kids are sick, I guess people like her wouldn’t think they can’t be healthy later in life, even though they can. Hey, did she know Tim Tebow’s mother was advised to abort him, but she didn’t. Guess where he is now?

thetryfecta on October 5, 2010 at 4:33 PM

The Spartans, along with others of the Graeco-Roman world, were a moral cut above Virginia Ironside and her friends.
The reason they left unwanted babies out in the wild was not because they lacked pillows to smother them “selflessly.” They simply recognized that there is something vicious and ugly about killing an innocent baby. It is an act that debases the adult doing the deed.

They also recognized that life is serious and that taking it away might be against nature and the gods. If the child was meant to live, they figured the gods would somehow save it.

However much we rightly deplore the standards of pagan antiquity in this matter, the fact is that we are confronted today with people like Ms. Ironside, whom even the ancients would have considered impious and barbaric.

So much for progress!

wolfie on October 7, 2010 at 1:40 AM

Crazy, crazy, crazy. As my mom and dad always told me, adopted children are wanted more than other kids because of what their parents have to go through to get them.

And by the way, that woman’s looks aren’t up to snuff, in my opinion, so perhaps she thinks she should be put out of her ugly misery?

LASue on October 7, 2010 at 1:04 PM