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American Spectator EXCLUSIVE: The Infamous Journolist ‘Tentacle Porn’ Thread

posted at 9:00 am on July 22, 2010 by

Hey, you didn’t think we were going to let Tucker Carlson’s arriviste operation get all the good stuff, did you? The Spectator‘s John Tabin has the scoop:

For some baffling reason, liberal journalist seem to have believed that they could expand the membership of an email listserv to include 400 people without worrying that anyone would be ethically flexible enough to violate the off-the-record ground rules. They are now being spectacularly embarrassed by leaks from that listserv, called Journolist mostly through the reporting of the Daily Caller. . . .
[W]hile the threads we’ve seen give the impression that Journolisters spent all their time discussing what the media should cover, the list was dominated by mundane questions along the lines of “does anyone have so-and-so’s email address,” and . . . many of the most memorable threads were casual discussions of pop culture and other frivolous topics.
The thread below the fold, which was given to me by a member of Journolist under the agreement that it be printed it in full, is one such discusssion. . . .

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These people are truly juvenile and really must live in their mother’s basement. Don’t think they could handle the real world.

Kissmygrits on July 22, 2010 at 9:18 AM

journOlist has destroyed the previously known trade craft of journalism for good. It must now be disposed of and new journalism build on it’s grave. The LSM has now become useless.

tarpon on July 22, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Of course most of the emails are mundane — I’m on a few professional emails lists and most emails are mundane. It’s called working, where most discussions are mundane and about work. The question is what about the non-mundane posts. If so many of the non-mundane posts show the same narrative, then that does show an institutional (even if limited to those on the listserv) bias.

rbj on July 22, 2010 at 9:45 AM

Oh, come on, we participants at Hotair make silly jokes like this, too.

That doesn’t change my opinion of them one way or the other — my opinion being that they’re unfit to be journalists because of their attitude toward free speech, free press and the purpose the press.

It doesn’t matter that some of them are opinion journalists. Opinion journalists have opinions, and that’s fine. Their job is NOT to try to shape the way OTHERS cover a topic.

Nobody who claims to be a journalist — opinion or otherwise — should be saying things like this on a list:

“Okay, let’s get deadly serious, folks. Grating voice or not, ‘inexperienced’ or not, Sarah Palin’s just been introduced to the country as a brave, above-party, oil-company-bashing, pork-hating maverick ‘outsider’,” Kilgore said, “What we can do is to expose her ideology.”

What we can do??? They’ve already decided to try to destroy her, and now they’re just trying to find the most effective way. These people need to lose their jobs.

Daggett on July 22, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Does sound kind of juvenile. We all do from time to time but not with the malevolence of this group.

jeanie on July 22, 2010 at 10:08 AM

Tabins post makes three important points:

1. Progressives aren’t as smart as they’d like to think they are. Otherwise they’d realize that hacking a Google listserv is not rocket science.

2. Progressives aren’t as smart as they’d like to think they are. Otherwise, they’d realize that the law of large numbers means that an online communications channel with 400+ like-minded people who think their conversations are confidential is guaranteed to produce lots of content that would be very embarrassing if made public.

3. Progressives aren’t as smart as they’d like to think they are. Otherwise, they’d realize that the “most of the discussions were mundane” defense isn’t really effective, if there is enough offensive non-mundane stuff to supply a full week’s worth of front-page news stories.

If you’re smart enough to spot the similarity between points 1, 2 and 3, you may be smarter than a fifth-grader Ezra Klein.

The Other McCain on July 22, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Oh, come on, we participants at Hotair make silly jokes like this, too.

The difference is that we’re not journalists posting to our peers in the context of being such.

RachDubya on July 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

The difference is that we’re not journalists posting to our peers in the context of being such.

RachDubya on July 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

I couldn’t care less what kinds of stupid jokes they make to each other.

It’s their coordinated determination to smear the candidate they don’t like, and totally ignore the ideology and past of the candidate they do like. That’s what really pisses me off. And the operative word is “coordinated”. This is not people just doing their own thing. They actually bounced ideas off each other on how to damage Palin most effectively, and how to divert attention away from Rev. Wright most effectively.

They all deserve to lose their jobs. I’d prefer to see them in jail, but I don’t think what they did is an actual crime… just a crime to their profession.

Daggett on July 22, 2010 at 4:55 PM

The BIG difference between their inane banter and whatever goes on in HA threads is that THEY are convinced they are the elite who KNOW BETTER and ARE BETTER than the rest of us–therefore they should control our lives.

Progressives aren’t as smart as they’d like to think they are.

This stuff shoots holes in their pompous and presumptuous mentality.

INC on July 22, 2010 at 7:24 PM

Well, darn it all. I was sure they were over on JournoList discussing only the most esoteric and high-minded of topics, posting quip after quip that you could only understand if you knew the history of analyzing Linear B and could name the Chathamites.

Not.

J.E. Dyer on July 22, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Any guesses on who’s gonna be the first guest on a left wing media show to ask the host, in response to a question, “What are you a JournoLister?”

paratisi on July 22, 2010 at 8:24 PM