If you have a penis, you are a man

posted at 2:54 pm on June 4, 2010 by

It’s sad that this even must be said. But apparently, it must be. Over at Feministe, Jill is upset over a sticky little situation where two trans women caused a stir by going topless at a beach in Delaware. They weren’t arrested, though, because it’s only illegal for women to be topless, and these two are men.

Rehoboth Beach in Delaware isn’t a topless beach — but a few transgender women caused a stir by treating it like one.

Police say passers-by complained after they removed their tops and revealed their surgically enhanced breasts over Memorial Day weekend. A lifeguard asked them to put their tops back on. They initially refused, but covered up before police arrived.

Even if they hadn’t, though, Police Chief Keith Banks notes they were doing nothing illegal. Since they have male genitalia, they can’t be charged with indecent exposure for showing their breasts. Banks says there’s no need for a specific law to address the issue.

Rehoboth Beach commissioner Kathy McGuiness isn’t so sure. She says the matter will be discussed at a town hall meeting next week.

I’ll start by saying that I agree with Commissioner McGuiness. If you’re a dude who has had breast implants, then you shouldn’t be running around topless either if a beach is not a topless beach.

Now, Jill is upset for reasons I can’t really understand. She’s glad that they weren’t arrested — but she’s upset that their “gender” wasn’t recognized. I’m curious. If their supposed female gender was recognized, then they should’ve been arrested. But Jill doesn’t want them to be arrested because they are transgendered… because apparently anyone who is trans should be allowed to break the law?

This kind of thing makes me glad to live in a place where toplessness is equal-opportunity and not illegal. But that aside, the whole story is weird. I always thought that the problem with female toplessness was OMG BOOBS! But here we have female toplessness and boobs, but it’s not illegal because there’s no vagina involved? (As an aside, how does anyone even know what’s in the pants of the topless trans women?). Of course it’s a good thing that the trans women weren’t arrested, but it’s kind of cold comfort when the reason behind it is, basically, “You aren’t really women.” Wouldn’t this be easier if we just stopped freaking out about boobs and bodies, and if we all just agreed that if some people can have their chests on display in public, everyone can?

First of all, I personally disagree with public nudity. I also do not consider a man’s bare chest public nudity. I do not, however, have any issues with a particular city or town allowing female toplessness. I don’t want to have to see topless women when I go to the beach. That’s the beauty of this country, see — if I don’t like public female toplessness, I can move to a city where it’s illegal. Jill, who likes public female toplessness, can move to a city where it’s allowed. It isn’t a one way or the other situation, although with liberals like Jill it’s always the case where it has to be their way or the highway.

As for the “how do you know what’s in the pants of a trans woman” question, I’d imagine that their (ahem) packages were visible in their bikinis.

Which brings me to my final point. The police officer was correct in this case, and Jill has no reason to be offended. Let’s establish a basic anatomical fact, here and now: if you have a penis, you are a man. END OF STORY! I know, I know, this will immediately cause me to be denounced as transphobic and homophobic and a bigot and a prude and all of the other fun things that feminists and gay rights activists like to smear people with when confronted with anatomical fact. I get that sometimes a dude thinks he’s a woman. And yeah, he might have surgery to disfigure himself to look like one. But the anatomical truth is that if you have a dick, you are NOT a freakin’ woman. If you have a vagina, you are NOT a man. It’s that simple.

And frankly, I still don’t believe having a sex change makes you a different gender. If you’re a guy who chops his penis off and has a vagina sculpted there instead, you’re just a guy who permanently disfigured himself. It’s like I said before:

Just because you castrate some guy and carve a vagina into him and pump him full of hormones, how does that make him female? There is more to a vagina than what you see in Playboy, biologically speaking. Most of it is inside our bodies, not outside. I don’t think doctors can add on a cervix, or a uterus, or ovaries, or fallopian tubes, or any of that kind of thing — just like you can’t add on a prostate or testis to a woman.

I’m no doctor, but I’m pretty sure that organ donations don’t normally include uteruses, or cervixes, or fallopian tubes to give to men who want to become women. My point is that the anatomical truth stands. You can do whatever you want to your body, you can carve it up however you like, but biologically speaking, you remain the gender you were born with. Don’t blame me for not being in complete and utter denial of a little thing called science. Remember Thomas Beatie, the so-called pregnant man? It wasn’t actually a man who got pregnant, it was a woman who chopped off her boobs, dressed like a dude, and took testosterone therapy… until she decided she wanted to have a kid.

When she decided to carry their child, she said herself that she didn’t have to take any estrogen or any other kind of feminine hormones. She simply stopped her testosterone therapy, and boom, her body regulated itself, she was having periods again, and was able to get pregnant.

I’d say that’s a pretty compelling argument that sex changes don’t actually change your sex. You’re just wearing a permanent costume.

It’s a costume. It’s a guy dressing up like a girl, or a girl dressing up like a guy. And hey, they have every right to do so. I don’t think there should be any rules against it, nor do I think they should be harassed or intimidated or anything of that nature. If that’s what makes them happy, then go for it. But let’s get real here, and call it what it is.

These two weren’t arrested because they were men, despite their breast implants (and probably countless other gender modifications). Regardless of how much people like Jill huff and puff about it, the fact remains that if you have a penis, you are a MAN.

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Let’s establish a basic anatomical fact, here and now: if you have a penis, you are a man. END OF STORY!

I’ve been to a number of sites with pictures and movies that really dispute that notion.

I mean, this other guy I know has been to them.

MadisonConservative on June 4, 2010 at 2:59 PM

However, they could use the womens restroom in Missoula, Mt, because the city council and mayor says so. See how enlightened we are in Montana.

Kissmygrits on June 4, 2010 at 3:15 PM

On a related topic, Janet Napalitano.

thirteen28 on June 4, 2010 at 3:18 PM

“Male” … “female” … just words.

OhioCoastie on June 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM

I challenge anybody to watch someone like Dana International and insist that she be referred to as a man!

SWLiP on June 4, 2010 at 3:54 PM

But seriously, grow up, folks. We have enough to worry about in this country, and abroad, without being gratuitously nasty to people who aren’t hurting anybody.

SWLiP on June 4, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Mutilation like this should put you in jail or mental hospital.

PrezHussein on June 4, 2010 at 4:32 PM

This has me thinking of the South African runner. There are billions of people out there and nature throws out plenty of examples which would challenge the penis test without any carving taking place.

lexhamfox on June 4, 2010 at 4:38 PM

That’s the beauty of this country, see — if I don’t like public female toplessness, I can move to a city where it’s illegal. Jill, who likes public female toplessness, can move to a city where it’s allowed. It isn’t a one way or the other situation, although with liberals like Jill it’s always the case where it has to be their way or the highway.

Best point. Cover it up guys or go to the topless beach.

Yahoo!

AshleyTKing on June 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM

All beaches should be topless.

John the Libertarian on June 4, 2010 at 11:36 PM

I am notoriously, shall we say, liberal with my nakedness. It’s probably from travelling in Europe and the like. However, I know when to keep the clothes on. I’m not going to strip down on a regular beach. and I certainly wouldn’t make a stink if I were on a regular beach about being topless either…

People like this need to learn to repect that not everyone is okay with public toplessness. And if they can’t, well, it’s their loss.

mjk on June 5, 2010 at 1:56 AM

Um…Cassy, I’m a big fan of your writing, but I’m afraid this post’s title is less than 100% accurate.

Cylor on June 5, 2010 at 2:40 AM

Remember Thomas Beatie, the so-called pregnant man? It wasn’t actually a man who got pregnant, it was a woman who chopped off her boobs, dressed like a dude, and took testosterone therapy…

Yes.

I wanted to slap Oprah and every other newsperson I could find back in those days when that story was out there. That wasn’t a “pregnant man,” it was a chick with facial hair.

“Gender studies” are actually pretty simple: the truth is the truth is the chromosomes, regardless of what the person in question might call his or herself.

johnmackeygreene on June 5, 2010 at 8:19 AM

If you have a penis, you are a man male.

It takes more than an organ to be a real man.

Disturb the Universe on June 5, 2010 at 10:51 AM

But seriously, grow up, folks. We have enough to worry about in this country, and abroad, without being gratuitously nasty to people who aren’t hurting anybody.

SWLiP on June 4, 2010 at 4:10 PM

You grow up. Or at least learn to read. They are hurting people. We have standards of decency whether you agree with it or not. I remember a case where two men were in a parked car, on a busy street, broad daylight. One guy was taking hormones and had huge boobs. He had his top off and the other guy was sucking on them. They were both arrested for lewd behavior. The one with the big boobs walked because the law, written back in saner times, only applied to female breasts – not male ones.

I don’t want to see this crap and I certainly don’t want my kid to see this crap. What’s wrong with you?

Blake on June 5, 2010 at 5:21 PM

The suicide rate for the transgendered is off the charts. Furthermore, the percentage of “buyer’s remorse” is also extremely high.

I have worked with at least one transgendered person who I liked very much. I can’t say I knew much about her personal life. I have seen lord knows how many transgendered who were nothing but prostitutes or obsessed with this bizarre idea of female sexuality and attractiveness. It’s like most of them become prostitutes or exotic dancers or pose nude which to me is still prostitution.

Something is seriously wrong with this concept that one can change their sex.

Blake on June 5, 2010 at 5:30 PM

But here we have female toplessness and boobs, but it’s not illegal because there’s no vagina involved?

Second look at penis envy!

Buy Danish on June 5, 2010 at 7:17 PM

The concept that a pair baby food factories, are obscene is ridicules.

To quote a female friend that I never had sexual relations with, “Get your sewer, off my chest.”

Slowburn on June 5, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Something is seriously wrong with this concept that one can change their sex.

Blake on June 5, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Amen to that.

Daggett on June 6, 2010 at 2:15 PM

I’m not sure I agree with your premise (if you have a penis, you are a man). I’m fairly certain that our president has a penis, but I’m equally certain that he is not a man.

I think you meant “balls”. That would explain everything.

lionheart on June 7, 2010 at 2:10 PM