Amanda Marcotte: REAL women only care about girly issues!

posted at 8:28 pm on May 10, 2010 by
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Good news for all of you soul-searching women out there: Amanda Marcotte has come along to let us know just what issues real women care about! In an interview with Feministing (which really should tell you what’s coming right there), Amanda explained why Sarah Palin isn’t a real feminist, and what women are supposed to care about.

For me, women’s rights and liberalism are, in my mind, pretty hard to unhook, and it fascinates and amuses me that you see conservatives complain that feminists are always with the democrats, as if there’s ever going to be a form of conservative feminism. You look at someone like Sarah Palin trying to wear that mantle, and you see the flaw in trying to be a so-called conservative feminist, which is that you’re not very pro-women. Women need things for equality that tailor very neatly to the general liberal agenda: Clean environment, universal healthcare, civil rights, individual rights, bodily autonomy, things like that. I fail to see how the two agendas are all that different. The flipside, of course, is that most liberals I know, whether they call themselves feminists or not, tend to agree with the general feminist goals. The only real opposition that you see to those goals is coming from the right.

… The healthcare battles were truly awful, because Bart Stupak was allowed to run around on television, portraying himself as some kind of morally upstanding icon, whereas, what I was seeing was an idiot who didn’t understand the issues and was being duped by a bunch of Republicans. And I saw no investigation whatsoever into the fact that he had all these connections to Republicans that he wasn’t really talking about – except on The Rachel Maddow Show. That was probably the thing that has made me angriest because it nearly brought the healthcare debate to a close. And I think it’s hilarious that he’s retiring and thinks he’s the target of harassment now. He should take a day at an abortion clinic and find out what it’s really like to be a target of harassment and abuse. And of course, the thing with Stupak is that most of the threatening emails and phone callers that he was getting were from the right. They don’t take well to a perceived betrayal at all.

First of all, on Bart Stupak — the threatening e-mails and phone calls he received were from angry liberals, not conservatives, when they thought he was going to help defeat Obamacare over abortion funding. As I recall, he called it “a living hell”. And what’s funny is how, as per usual with liberals, Marcotte has a problem with a Democrat crossing the aisle to work with Republicans. Unity and bipartisanship is great for liberals, as long as it’s Republicans crossing the aisle to work with Democrats. Democrats crossing the aisle to work with Republicans is strictly forbidden.

But what interested me most was Marcotte’s take on liberalism and feminism, what a “real” feminist was, and what “real” women’s issues are. It’s not often you see someone own up to the fact that liberalism and feminism are, today, one and the same. Feminism exists solely for liberal women today. My guess is that this is probably because conservative women don’t rely on a victimhood mentality to get them what they want. Conservative women don’t want or need affirmative action or feminism to help them through life. Feminists think that women can’t do anything without their wisdom to guide them. Women must think the way feminists think and live their lives the way feminists deem appropriate.

This, of course, brings us to Sarah Palin. One might think that she would be a feminist dream. She’s smart, she’s accomplished, and she’s got a family. She is the epitome of a woman having it all. She’s got a loving husband, even though she’s clearly the one in the spotlight and the breadwinner. She’s got five beautiful children, yet she still has a powerful career. She thinks for herself, took on her own party in Alaska and beat the corruption, and has made her own way in the so-called boys club of politics. But does any of this matter to feminists? No, to them Sarah Palin can’t be a feminist simply because she’s pro-life. You’re anti-woman if you don’t believe in abortion. Be pro-life and don’t toe the feminist line, and you get dubbed an anti-feminist (a title even I received courtesy of Jessica Valenti). It’s funny, because upon a time, feminists despised abortion. Susan B. Anthony was adamently anti-abortion and Elizabeth Cady Stanton rightly called it infanticide. Modern feminists are nothing but extremist liberal harpies who have hijacked the title of “feminist” and are no more pro-woman than Margaret Sanger was pro-black.

You can see this in another part of Marcotte’s statement, that women need certain things, and they all conveniently fit into the liberal agenda. Universal health care, abortion on demand, a clean environment… these are all liberal issues, and it’s what real women are supposed to care about. (We’ve already established, remember, that if you aren’t for abortion then you aren’t a real woman). Apparently, us women are supposed to only care about easy, girly issues like abortion. Don’t worry about stuff like the 2nd Amendment, or national security, or illegal immigration, or the economy. That’s boring, manly stuff, and it doesn’t matter to women. All that matters is squishy stuff like health care and abortion.

Because hey, if you aren’t a liberal feminist extremist, then God knows you aren’t a real woman.

Cross-posted from Cassy’s blog. Stop by for more original commentary, or follow her on Twitter!

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Amanda explained why Sarah Palin isn’t a real feminist, and what women are supposed to care about.

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BKennedy on May 10, 2010 at 8:36 PM

Feminists are the most un-feminine of women. In fact I’m not sure they’re really even women at all.

There’s an old saying about childbirth, death and taxes being the only certainties in life; with lib women it’s just death and taxes.

beachgirlusa on May 10, 2010 at 8:54 PM

What caused this skank to ooze up to the surface? She gives, not only women, but all humans a bad name.

ericdijon on May 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM

Hah! I had completely forgotten old Amanda existed. Good stuff, Cassie.

di butler on May 11, 2010 at 12:19 AM

Good article, Cassy.

RachDubya on May 11, 2010 at 12:40 AM

Amanda showed herself to be a terrible judge of character when she agreed to be John Edwards’ campaign blogger for the 2008 election, presumably because she believed — get this — Amanda Marcotte actually believed John Edwards was a good man.

Pardon us, Amanda, but we’ll pass when you try to tell us what a good woman is.

jeff_from_mpls on May 11, 2010 at 6:51 AM

Abortion is just a means to an end. I actually think sometimes it can be the least bad of a bunch of bad options, but such occasions are rare.

The longer women wait to become mothers, and the fewer babies they have, the less likely parenthood can change their political outlook from the squishy liberalism their professors taught them.

Sekhmet on May 11, 2010 at 8:29 AM

Abortion is just a means to an end.

Sekhmet on May 11, 2010 at 8:29 AM

You’re close, but not quite accurate.

It’s actually sticking a sharp instrument in a baby’s skull and sucking the life out of him, then scraping him out of the only home his little body ever knew, and throwing the corpse in the garbage.

But you should win a prize for a good effort at sanitizing cold blooded murder.

jeff_from_mpls on May 11, 2010 at 9:11 AM

Liberal feminists think that “equality” means women must act like men. In my opinion, this is surrender to the notion that it is a man’s world and men make the rules. You are supposed to have a career outside the home, because that’s what men do. And if you want to get ahead in your career, you must suppress your femininity, avoid childbearing, deny your emotions, wear pantsuits, cut your hair, and generally neuter yourself. Liberal feminists also believe that women somehow are “liberated” by indiscriminately granting sexual favors to anyone they want at any time, with no consequences. These two beliefs are why abortion is so important to liberal feminists. Liberal feminists also have a strange belief that traditional marriage is slavery, and men are not necessary for them to be happy and fulfilled.

Conservative feminists believe that women actually have powers as women, namely, the granting of sexual favors and the bearing of children. We should not have to deny our femininity to get ahead and be successful. We should not have to kill our children, nor want to, to have a career or finish school or whatever else we want to do in life. Nor should we have to work outside the home if we do not want to, because our nation’s economic and tax policies have made it so difficult for men to support a family on one income. The world should want MORE children, and we should be producing them, within the bonds of traditional marraige, of course. We believe that women should not grant sexual favors indiscriminately, but should be careful and use those favors to get what we want from men, whatever that may be, and not be sexual doormats. We believe that all children need a mother AND a father, and they should be married, because marriage has for centuries been the bedrock of our civilization. What isn’t broken does not need to be fixed.

A conservative feminism would advocate better accommodation of motherhood in the workplace and schools. It would restore restrictions on divorce and give generous tax incentives for marriage and childbearing. It would discourage abortion and encourage abstinence and use of contraceptives to avoid unwanted pregnancy. It would pursue economic policies that increase wages and salaries so that more families can live on one income. (A very big argument against illegal immigration, by the way – it indisputably depresses wages for jobs that traditionally are pursued by men.) It would encourage more healthy relationships between men and women, and recognize that men and women are different and each gender has unique powers that must be balanced – and none suppressed – in order to achieve true happiness and an orderly and moral society.

In my view, Sarah Palin personifies conservative feminism. She maintains her femininity and has managed to have many children – including one that most liberal women would have aborted – while still pursuing a career. She married a “real man”, yet he is a man who willingly shares the responsibilities of caring for their children. She is a tiger in defense of her children and has not put her motherhood on the back burner as she has risen to national prominence. She is an inspiration to millions of women, but a serious threat to traditional liberal feminism precisely because she demonstrates the REAL power women have, which liberal feminists want to deny.

rockmom on May 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Funny demotivational poster about Feminism:

Feminism – strong, smart and independent until things get a little bit difficult…

catmman on May 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM

So she’s arguing, essentially, that conservative women aren’t liberal. Nice one Amanda.

Heralder on May 11, 2010 at 9:34 AM

catmman on May 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM

LOL

inviolet on May 11, 2010 at 9:37 AM

rockmom on May 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Yes, yes and yes. Excellently said.

Cassy, another excellent post.

inviolet on May 11, 2010 at 9:40 AM

jeff_from_mpls on May 11, 2010 at 9:11 AM

If you would have read the rest of my point, which seems a stretch for you, the “end” I was talking about was the delaying of motherhood for political purposes while using the lure of the pleasures of sex to make conservatives look like we’re trying to outlaw fun or something.

But do jump to conclusions about the point I’m trying to make because I am not denouncing abortion merely for being abortion.

Sekhmet on May 11, 2010 at 11:16 AM

If you would have read the rest of my point, which seems a stretch for you

Sekhmet on May 11, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Yes, insult the reader for being unable to decode your secret message buried beneath layers of sarcasm.

Please, if it takes three readings to get your point, the point could probably be made better.

I make the same error in my writing 100 times a day, but it’s still an error.

jeff_from_mpls on May 11, 2010 at 11:26 AM

rockmom on May 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM

+1000

I am the equal of any man. Why would I want to be a man?

And again, I think that sex without consequences for women serves to both use pleasure as a lure for their collectivist policies (How many potheads would vote for Adolf Hitler if he promised free pot?), and a fear of motherhood.

Motherhood can seriously change your outlook, and grow you up. Public school issues look a whooole lot different when your own kids are school-age. That next generation from whom you borrow has a face and a name, and they just tried to make you pancakes for Mother’s Day. You bust your tail to give them something better and get a few things for dinner, and how do you feel when you see the grocery cart ahead of yours filled with junk, paid for with food stamps?

The only way the Left has to counter this is either to make sure you run to the welfare office the moment you fall pregnant, or run to your nearest abortion clinic, until as late as possible in your life. If you can’t make government the daddy, at least spend most of your adult life invested in leftist causes, until you can afford to isolate the one child you ever have from the negative consequences.

Sekhmet on May 11, 2010 at 11:32 AM

rockmom

A++++

beachgirlusa on May 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM

rockmom on May 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Well said Rockmom. I never could identify with Bella Abzug, Gloria Steinam, and the others. The whole feminism thing never made any sense. It just seemed so anti-female. Sarah has come along and set those feminists on their ears. Sarah must scare them to death because she has achieved without their help or by following their philosophy. She has succeeded on her own terms.

BetseyRoss on May 11, 2010 at 2:24 PM

Since I am actually old enough to pre-date the feminist movement it drives me crazy that todays’ “feminists” are so naive about real discrimination against women.

I remember interviewing for jobs and being openly told that “no nice girl would want to do a job like this” or “they only hired men because the job involved travel and no good husband would let his wife do that” or “most of the employees were men and couldn’t be counted on to be gentlemen around a pretty girl”.

I thought the purpose of the feminist effort was equality in the job market and not having women penalized because they were mothers. Who ever knew it required women to support ripping their unborn children from their bodies and worrying about the ozone layer.

katiejane on May 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM

Conservative Feminism is a Rejection of the Sixties, which is what makes so-called “feminists” like Marcotte mad at Palin.

Palin is independent, self-made, and in addition, has no problem proclaiming her love for a very strong and independent man.

You find no Metrosexuals among her heroes.

The Sixties gave rise to an assault on Masculinity and male responsibility. Feminism as we know it from the Left encourages two things: dependency on the State and the attack on men and masculinity. Palin rejects both of these constructs.

Marcotte simply doesn’t have the intellectual integrity to admit that she is for slavery to the state and hates men.

Period.

victor82 on May 11, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Oh, by the way, what is frightening the Libtards is that the “liberal moment” is passing.

Greece and California are bellwethers. Progressivism could last only as long as liberals had other people’s money to play with. Liberals could never conceive that a moment could come when people would say “enough”!

victor82 on May 11, 2010 at 3:14 PM

I thought the purpose of the feminist effort was equality in the job market and not having women penalized because they were mothers. Who ever knew it required women to support ripping their unborn children from their bodies and worrying about the ozone layer.

katiejane on May 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM

Exactly! I’m 52 and I have been the victim of some hideous sex discrimination in the workplace – laid off because I was pregnant and became seriously ill, and fired once due to postpartum depression that affected my work. My husband’s female boss (unmarried and no kids, of course) once told him she would not have hired him had she known I was pregnant! Even he was being told not to have a family if he wanted to get ahead. He was allowed to take only one week off when our youngest was born.

If “feminism” would really address issues like this, I would be glad to be a feminist. But instead they tell me to just avoid having children and act like a man.

They say they are “pro-choice” but they have done little to create REAL choices for women. After 40 years, our choice is still: be a woman/mother or turn yourself into a man to have a successful career. Why don’t the “feminists” really want us to do both? Why do they hate Sarah Palin so much for showing us all how it can be done?

rockmom on May 12, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Hey Amanda, I don’t go shopping to cheer myself up. Does that mean I’m not a real woman?

disa on May 12, 2010 at 1:42 PM

We believe that women should not grant sexual favors indiscriminately, but should be careful and use those favors to get what we want from men, whatever that may be, and not be sexual doormats.

rockmom on May 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM

I use my sexual favors to get sex from my husband. Is that tautological?

disa on May 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM