Save Are Teachers: Iowa teacher makes students protest budget cuts
posted at 11:27 pm on April 25, 2010 by Cassy Fiano
[ Education ]
A middle-school teacher made her students join her in protesting budget cuts (video here). Unfortunately for her, it looks like her protest did nothing but prove that perhaps our teachers are, in fact, overpaid and underqualified. Check out the sign one of her students was found holding:

It’s a good thing this teacher, Terry Hoffman, is retiring. She’s a language teacher, but apparently she can’t even teach her students simple grammar. Maybe if she spent more time educating her students, and less time planning protests, they wouldn’t be confusing “our” and “are”.
Let’s consider whether or not budget cuts for teachers are really that bad. The idea that teachers are among the lowest-paid and hardest-working is a persistent one. The question is, is it true? Are teachers’ salaries really that low, and are they lower on average than the average worker’s salary overall? Here are some findings from The Manhattan Institute:
Among the key findings of this report:
- According to the BLS, the average public school teacher in the United States earned $34.06 per hour in 2005.
- The average public school teacher was paid 36% more per hour than the average non-sales white-collar worker and 11% more than the average professional specialty and technical worker.
- Full-time public school teachers work on average 36.5 hours per week during weeks that they are working. By comparison, white-collar workers (excluding sales) work 39.4 hours, and professional specialty and technical workers work 39.0 hours per week. Private school teachers work 38.3 hours per week.
- Compared with public school teachers, editors and reporters earn 24% less; architects, 11% less; psychologists, 9% less; chemists, 5% less; mechanical engineers, 6% less; and economists, 1% less.
- Compared with public school teachers, airplane pilots earn 186% more; physicians, 80% more; lawyers, 49% more; nuclear engineers, 17% more; actuaries, 9% more; and physicists, 3% more.
- Public school teachers are paid 61% more per hour than private school teachers, on average nationwide.
- The Detroit metropolitan area has the highest average public school teacher pay among metropolitan areas for which data are available, at $47.28 per hour, followed by the San Francisco metropolitan area at $46.70 per hour, and the New York metropolitan area at $45.79 per hour.
- We find no evidence that average teacher pay relative to that of other white-collar or professional specialty workers is related to high school graduation rates in the metropolitan area.
Seems to me like public school teachers got it pretty good, especially when compared with private school teachers, who on average work more hours and get paid considerably less. Your average white-collar worker also works more and gets paid less. It seems like common sense, but people always tend to think that teachers are so poorly paid, and work so hard, and are just downtrodden and unappreciated. It would appear that this is a myth.
The key finding from the Manhattan Institute’s study seems to back that up.
When considering teacher pay, policymakers should be aware that public school teachers, on average, are paid 36% more per-hour than the average white-collar worker and 11% more than the average professional specialty and technical worker. They should be aware that the higher relative pay for public school teachers exists in almost every metro area for which data are available. Finally, they should be aware that paying public school teachers more does not appear to be associated with higher student achievement.
Higher teacher pay does not mean higher student achievement. Teachers are paid more than the average white-collar, specialty, and technical worker. Yet public perception is that teachers make nothing, and if you so much as mention budget cuts, teachers and unions go ballistic.
This particular case, with Terry Hoffman, is especially egregious. It shows exactly why people are crying out for budget cuts, too. Student achievement has steadily declined over the last twenty years. American students used to be the brightest in the world; now we’re behind other countries’ students in nearly every subject. Yet teachers salaries have increased steadily over the past twenty years. Ms. Hoffman’s protest seems to be a perfect example of just what the problem in education is. She had middle school students protesting budget cuts with grammatically incorrect signs. First of all, no teacher should have their students protesting. It doesn’t even matter what they’re protesting; the point is that teachers have no business whatsoever using their students as tools for their own personal agenda. This, however, is particularly inappropriate because this teacher had her students protesting for her own pay raises, shouting “SHOW US THE MONEY!”. It’s wrong, and I hope that the school board got an earful from angry parents (I doubt it). Second, this teacher’s middle school students couldn’t figure out the difference between “are” and “our”? And she couldn’t catch the mistake, either? And she’s a language teacher? It’s disgusting! This woman wants more money even though she apparently can’t even teach her own students basic grammar.
The best thing, in my opinion, is for local and state governments to start implementing merit-based pay and break the union stranglehold. Teachers should earn pay raises, just like everyone else in the world. Great teachers absolutely deserve pay raises, but horrible teachers shouldn’t get pay raises just because they’re teachers who happens to be in a union. If a teacher has students who routinely are failing, then they don’t deserve a raise. A teacher’s performance should decide whether or not they get a raise. Raises should be earned. Unions need to stop corrupting our education system. Our children’s futures depend on it.
Do we really want a nation of students who can’t tell the difference between “are” and “our”?
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Wait until these young “skulls full of mush” (as Rush calls them) grow up and start paying the property taxes out of their own pockets for the salaries of teachers who can’t even teach these kids proper grammar.
Some of them at least will trade in for the upgrade to a TEA Party sign.
catmman on April 26, 2010 at 12:01 AM
I’m the last person to defend public school teachers – we actually ended up homeschooling our daughter from 8th grade on. I’m in complete agreement with almost every word in your post. But I did have a brief, unlamented teaching stint (computer science at a K-12 private school.) I also have teachers in my family. So I have one nit to pick:
That surely represents only the hours they are at school. It doesn’t come close to covering the take home work that having 5 or 6 classes a day of ~30 students each generates. Grading papers for around 150 students easily takes up another 2+ hours a day, unless you just don’t give homework or quizzes and let the poor sods’ grades depend almost entirely on tests. Then you’ve got parent phone calls and notes – usually over stupid crap like you’re not treating their pwecious widdle angel special enough.
Teaching is a genuinely crappy job, which is probably why it attracts and retains genuinely crappy people who need unions to force schools into keeping them employed. Most of the “good ones” get out after a few years. It’s a rare person with a genuine love and vocation for the work – and you probably remember one or two from when you were in school… but no more than that.
Laura on April 26, 2010 at 12:48 AM
It could just be the average overall throughout the year. Yes, teachers may work longer days when you factor in all of the take-home work, but how much time off do they get? I mean, summer months, all of the weeks for Christmas and spring breaks, holidays… normal workers don’t get nearly that much time off. It may even out that way.
Cassy Fiano on April 26, 2010 at 12:54 AM
I’m not currently employed as a teacher, but I do keep my teaching credentials up to date. Texas requires new teachers to earn a master’s degree within a few years in order to keep certified. I’m not aware whether they make this requirement of other state certified professions or not, but I would be interested in learning whether they do.
Stegall Tx on April 26, 2010 at 1:07 AM
I don’t know how it’s done in other states, but here you can choose higher pay for the length of the school year or lower pay year round. The annual salary is the same either way. Also, summers get eaten up with seminars for CLEs, inservices, professional obligations etc.
By the way, I did read the report down to Are Hours Worked Counted Properly? I’m not convinced they counted hours worked accurately. ~40 hours just doesn’t reflect my own experience or that of other teachers I know. The report reads
It’s often not considered such – you get a bland, “that’s what your study hall hour is for” as if that came close to covering it, and as if you don’t have to stop and counsel and/or discipline students during the time. The report also just blithely dismisses the concept that teachers have more take home work than other professions. I guess that depends on the profession and I obviously can’t speak knowledgeably about every job out there. But I’ve had a lot of jobs, and teaching was by far the heaviest workload other than being self-employed.
Again, I’m picking a nit here… I do agree that unions suck, most teachers suck and are doing a terrible job, and that the system desperately needs an overhaul where actual merit is the deciding factor in who retains their jobs.
Laura on April 26, 2010 at 1:07 AM
Oh, jeez… I should have kept reading; they addressed the question in plain english and everything.
So annual pay is entirely irrelevant here, as is time off. The only question is whether they actually computed the work week accurately. I think they did not. But, again, that certainly doesn’t invalidate your point.
Laura on April 26, 2010 at 1:18 AM
Private school teachers get paid less, produce better results.
Free market wins again…
Ace ODale on April 26, 2010 at 7:17 AM
Been telling people that teachers are not underpaid for years and even though I was one at the time was given no credibility. It’s about time that this union lie was exposed . In some rural areas it may still be true, but I would tend to question even that.I do not agree that private school teachers do a better job over all. In fact, many private and parochial school teachers use these institutions as a stepping stones to establish work credentials that allow them to be hired in the public sector.
jeanie on April 26, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Lets see…teachers are highly paid, work fewer hours and turn out an inferior product. Not bad for govmint union workers. This will be our future when Ocare is implemented fully.
Kissmygrits on April 26, 2010 at 9:26 AM
Could it be that the student deliberately botched the sign to sabotage the very improper demonstration?
njcommuter on April 26, 2010 at 10:47 AM
So. Teachers have some “take home work”? They have to attend training seminars?
So instead of taking everything that encompasses the job as doing the job, it sounds like you want kudos for doing what comes with the job?
Teachers do put in a lot of work, a lot of hours, averaged out over a school year. Teachers also get a lot of perks that come with that type of schedule.
The data shows that in most places in the country, teachers are putting out an inferior ‘product’ based on the money and perks they receive.
Stop whining about the issue of how many hours you work and fill those hours you should be working being effective teachers
I didn’t spend 22 years in the military to get rich. If you are planning on being rich from teaching, I would submit your “doing it wrong”. Unfortunately in this day and age, a lot of teachers do get ‘rich’, making six figure salaries plus benefits and are still bitching about the small stuff.
catmman on April 26, 2010 at 11:21 AM
Halp us!
Jorge Bonilla on April 26, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Not that I’m a defender of K-12 public education, but I used to be a K-12 educator. The idea that teachers work only 36 hours/week is specious. Certainly, if you only count the hours when students are present, that is true, but teachers have a great deal of work to do after students have gone home, i.e. grading, lesson plans, committee assignments, sponsoring clubs, paperwork, PTA meetings, and more. Much of the time, I didn’t finish grading papers until 10-11:00 at night. Many teachers are hard working and dedicated people who hate what the unions have done to the profession, so please don’t paint all teachers with the same broad brush. Now that I teach on the college level, I see that there are many here with PhDs who can’t teach to save their lives, and at a Research 1 institution, it is not valued as it should be. Teachers at all levels get a bad rap because of institutionalized mediocrity, but just as in any other profession, there are good teachers and bad ones. Unfortunately, unions have made it next to impossible to get rid of the bad ones.
College Prof on April 26, 2010 at 2:41 PM
One key point is that it’s not so much the hours K-12 teachers work as it is the working conditions in too many schools. Most of the people in the other kinds of professional jobs don’t have to try to keep order among poorly-reared savages 8 hours a day, as teachers too often have to.
Don’t get me wrong. I consider the education establishment much to blame for the encroachment of those very conditions over the last 30 years. Its determination to experiment with what amounts to indiscipline, to lord it over engaged parents, and to resist all attempts at reform mounted through school boards and legislatures, makes it a key culprit in the ongoing problem.
Some teachers are part of that problem, some aren’t. In most public schools today, you couldn’t pay me enough to teach in the classroom. The conditions would send me to an early grave. I don’t know how the teachers do it now.
But part of the problem is also the number of parents who send undisciplined, unready kids into the schools. My cousin teaches things to fifth-graders that my generation learned in second grade — not because we were innately smarter but because we had learned by that age to give relatively complex topics the amount of disciplined attention required for “learning” to occur.
There are both teachers and parents who would be pleased for school to be a more disciplined, challenging, and productive experience today. The education establishment has a stranglehold on methods, curricula, and disciplinary standards, however. I don’t see a way out of this do-loop until that hold is broken. Frankly, breaking it will mean breaking the backs of the teachers’ unions and transforming the state and federal education departments into something unrecognizably else than their current condition.
J.E. Dyer on April 26, 2010 at 10:39 PM