Comments on: ObamaCare: The “bipartisan” summit scam

By: joe_doufu

joe_doufu — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:38:00 +0000

Obama’s intent with this meeting is to offer the Republicans a deal that they will balk at. When (not if) the Republicans walk out, or refuse to participate in the charade, Obama will claim that he was right all along about the “party of no” and will claim justification for participating via reconciliation or some other intensely partisan process.

I think the Republicans should call his bluff. Instead of rejecting the “final bill”, the Republicans should offer amendments to it that the Democrats will refuse, much to their own embarrassment. Propose tort reform. Propose interstate portability of health insurance. Nothing that will upset the moderates, like changing Medicare. Let the Democrats reject these eminently reasonable proposals one at a time. Keep it up until the Democrats give up and walk out.

By: WarEagle01

WarEagle01 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:23:31 +0000

The GOP should not attend this event. If they’re using the Senate and House health care deform monstrosities as the starting point, then why bother? They’ll go there. Get ignored. Get told that their just being partisan and want the country to fail, blah, blah, blah. Barry will get on his soapbox and talk about another woman who tied with her Barry shirt on and absolutely nothing will come of it. Complete. Waste. Of. Time.

By: exceller

exceller — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:09:41 +0000

That would be disastrous. They will have to confront him head on, turn the tables on him. If the Republicans go into this with the right attitude, it shouldn’t be that hard to demolish Obama. He will be off the teleprompter. Don’t allow him to stick to talking point. Use Alinksy’s rules against him. Bombard him with the facts. Expose him. Ridicule him.

I agree with the riducule part, but they need to do that on their turf. If they attend this bipartisan sham do you think they are going to allow the format to be such that they will be able to make the president look bad and use Alinsky tactics against him? Not a chance in hell. It will be like the “debate” at the Republican retreat, the format favored Obama. The moment they step foot into this phony summit they have lost.

By: Dhuka

Dhuka — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:00:58 +0000

Gee, I heard on NPR today that Obama WON the first debate on health care with the Republicans.

They also think the US economy is in recovery.

By: Scotch Pundit

Scotch Pundit — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:59:41 +0000

Of course it is a ploy…

Seems like the Republicans should change the conversation. OK Mr. President, fine. Let’s have a conference - but let’s make it about the economy and the jobs. Change the venue and leak an agenda. Make clear the priority – jobs, jo…

By: modifiedcontent

modifiedcontent — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:54:07 +0000

The Republicans should just hold a press conference and layout the case why they won’t participate in this sham. …

That would be disastrous. They will have to confront him head on, turn the tables on him. If the Republicans go into this with the right attitude, it shouldn’t be that hard to demolish Obama. He will be off the teleprompter. Don’t allow him to stick to talking point. Use Alinksy’s rules against him. Bombard him with the facts. Expose him. Ridicule him.

By: JimP

JimP — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:52:31 +0000

The Reps are stupid to go for this. They should hold their own press conference and announce what a fraud this bipartisan conference is. Then they should hit the airwaves, esp FNC with the most viewers, and detail again what a fraud this conference is. It would be a miracle if they pulled off what Hewitt suggests. The GOP does not have the skill, or control of the setting, needed to beat Obama on his home ground. Don’t be fools, GOP. Alas, I’m sure it’s too late. Thank God we have the Tea Parties. With some luck and hard work, we will take over the GOP from these dolts.

By: exceller

exceller — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:42:30 +0000

The Republicans should just hold a press conference and layout the case why they won’t participate in this sham. You can’t seriously think they would now pull Obamas ass from the fire on this after he called them the party of NO all year long and even went as far as to say that he didn’t want to hear from them. They need to let Obama stew in this mess all year long.

By: modifiedcontent

modifiedcontent — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:39:43 +0000

Republican should take this opportunity fully aware that it is a game and play hard, expose Obama’s lies and demagoguery, take a stand for Liberty and the Constitution.

By: exceller

exceller — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:37:59 +0000

Go ahead and try to pass your proposal now Bama. See, what ever you do we’re going to run it by the American people this Novemeber and see what they think about it.

By: Extrafishy

Extrafishy — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:32:15 +0000

Let me repeat my post from a similar thread…

Obama is the Inuit with a big club. The Republicans are baby seals. It won’t be pretty but those stupid baby seals deserve what they get if they can’t recognize a threat.

By: Schadenfreude

Schadenfreude — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:26:30 +0000

…on camera…point, by point.

By: Midas

Midas — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:26:09 +0000

Don’t do it, ‘pubs – don’t go.

By: Schadenfreude

Schadenfreude — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:26:09 +0000

I’d love to see Scott Brown terrify Obama.

By: Bloodthirsty Liberal » So, Now He Wants to Talk [UPDATED]

Bloodthirsty Liberal » So, Now He Wants to Talk [UPDATED] — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:25:15 +0000

[...] Okay, so maybe President Obama isn’t even remotely serious: In his rallying cry to a crowd of cheering supporters on Thursday, Mr. Obama described, in the [...]

By: smartsy

smartsy — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:24:13 +0000

The Republicans should turn the offer from Obama for a televised debate about healthcare to a debate about the economy. The Republicans need to come out that they would welcome a debate about what is really important to the American people right now…it’s the ECONOMY stupid.

By: globalrambler

globalrambler — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:23:33 +0000

This is nowhere close to a check let alone a checkmate. Obama’s ploy here is to use this proposed ‘meeting’ to sucker the Republicans into an ambush and make a fool of them. It would be stupid to participate in this charade. Everything this administration does has a political agenda; there is no other agenda but to screw this country up so bad that people will fall for any relief that he offers.

By: Gateway Pundit

Gateway Pundit — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:18:57 +0000

[...] Karl says it’s not a trap, it’s a joke. Comments (9) [...]

By: PatriotRider

PatriotRider — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:16:33 +0000

All of the republicans should stand in front of the cameras with their responses written on the palms of their hands.

By: conservative pilgrim

conservative pilgrim — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:14:23 +0000

Republicans need to say NO! Unless they have something up their sleeve (which I doubt, because they’re pretty spineless and inept with talking points and messaging) during this dog and pony show, the Obama WH just put the GOP in “check,” not quite a Checkmate but close.

By: deidre

deidre — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:14:20 +0000

whatever the republicans do, the media will spin it to make them look bad. I would only accept the invitation if they agree to start from scratch.

By: Disturb the Universe

Disturb the Universe — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:14:19 +0000

House and Senate Democrats would resolve their differences and decide on a “final bill.” They would then invite “our Republican friends to present their ideas.”

Rather like we will execute you; then we will give you a speedy trial.

By: pedestrian

pedestrian — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:09:54 +0000

If only there was a place where Democrat and Republican members of Congress could routinely gather to discuss proposed legislation in public. Nah, that would never work.

By: Angry Dumbo

Angry Dumbo — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:32:20 +0000

The beautiful irony is that the only “bipartisan” part of Obama Care is the Democrats, Republicans and Independents who OPPOSE it. : ))

By: erp

erp — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:02:48 +0000

To emphasis their solidarity, Republicans all should attend, have one of them state their case that they will not participate until the the current bill is scrapped and the process begun anew and Obama should let them know when he’s ready to do that and make an orderly exit.

To do anything less is to play into the hands of the spinners and propagandists.

By: uknowmorethanme

uknowmorethanme — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:56:40 +0000

Unless they are starting over, it is flat out stupid for the Republicans to even entertain this debate.

Of course, the Republicans are stupid, so I expect them to get steam-rolled by the Democrats.

By: Michelle Malkin » Obama’s Kabuki summit invitation: Just say no

Michelle Malkin » Obama’s Kabuki summit invitation: Just say no — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:50:21 +0000

[...] Karl in the Green Room: “Having the GOP in for a debate after Democrats draft a ‘final bill,’ similar to that virtually universally rejected by Republicans is absurd, which ought to be among the main points Republicans make if — as appears to be the case — they choose to attend.” Posted in: Health care Printer Friendly comments (9) trackbacks (0) [...]