ObamaCare and 2010: Are Dems suicidal?
posted at 12:02 am on November 24, 2009 by Karl
Folks like National Review’s Rich Lowry look at the Democrats’ drive to pass ObamaCare, despite its unpopularity, and see lemmings headed off the political cliffs:
They’ve talked themselves into the ludicrously self-delusional notion that what ails them and the president is that they haven’t yet passed the hundreds of billions of dollars of tax hikes and Medicare cuts that finance (albeit incompletely) ObamaCare.
This will long be a case study in the annals of abnormal political psychology. Tax hikes undid George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton (Bush lost his presidency, Clinton his congressional majority), and Medicare cuts undid Newt Gingrich (taking the air out of his “Republican revolution”). Obama’s Democrats are prescribing themselves a strong dose of both, in an exercise in self-destructive quackery.
What causes this mindset? Prof. Larry Sabato suggests that Democrats view the results of the 2009 elections as showing that if they do not hang together, they will hang separately. They believe this because they have Democratic pollsters telling them so. Mark Mellman and Geoff Garin told Sentors this directly. We don’t have access to their polling, but we do have the latest from Democratic firm Public Policy Polling on the topic:
The political repercussions for Congressional Democrats of not passing a health care bill could be severe. Our newest national survey finds that Democrats lead 46-38 on the generic Congressional ballot. But asked how they would vote if no health care bill is passed respondents split 40-40 between saying they would vote Democratic or Republican in next year’s election.
In some sense the Democrats may be in a damned if you don’t or damned if you do position on health care. Asked how they would vote for Congress next year if a health care bill with a public option is passed respondents said they would go Democratic by a 46-41 margin, still more narrow than before any hypotheticals about health care outcomes were introduced into the questions.
(BTW, if you read the accompanying .pdf, you won’t see hypotheticals about health care outcomes, which means PPP probably has some data still tucked away that is just too scary for public consumption.) The sample for this poll is probably a bit off. The initial generic ballot numbers lean toward the optimistic side for Dems, based on recent polling of Registered Voters (PPP’s sample). On the other hand, this sample voted for Obama over McCain by a margin of only 47%-45% (though respondents have been known to “misremember” their prior votes, based on current popularity). Regardless of my opinion of this particular poll, its general thrust represents the logic behind the current Democratic calculations about ObamaCare.
The flaw in this logic is that the United States does not conduct national elections — it conducts them in House Districts and in states for Senators. While there is a general statistical relationship between the generic ballot and House seats, it is the Blue Dogs and New Dems that are most in danger in 2010. Indeed, according to TIME, Mark Mellman told Dem Senators a similar tale about the 1994 GOP tsunami. But Sean Trende’s regression analysis of the 1994 midterms shows that election was about throwing out Dems who voted too liberally for their districts — the more liberal bills they supported (the Clinton budget, the assault weapons ban, etc.), the more likely they were to lose.
Generic numbers are no comfort to people like Rep. Vic Snyder or any number of previously safe Dems eyeing a brutal struggle next year. Six-term Rep. Dennis Moore (D-MO) has already seen the writing on the wall, and announced his retirement. Blue Dogs and New Dems hoping to keep their jobs need to remind themselves that all elections are local.









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The other side of it is that, thanks to long-term Blue State reps having Democratic legislatures who have gerrymandered them into extremely safe districts, the liberal leaders of the House really have nothing to lose in terms of their own seats by taking a kamikaze dive on Obamacare. They’re not getting shot down — it’s the Blue Dog reps in the Red and Purple states who are most likely to pay the price.
The strategy over in the Senate is a little different, since there are only a few Senators whose entire state is so Blue they can afford to be reckless on Obamacare (or those who were just elected in 2008 and aren’t up again until 2014). The other, who are either running in 2010 or running with Obama is 2012, have to strategerize in ways similar to the Blue Dogs in order to maintain their long-term political viability (and Harry Reid’s cause is not helped by Harry Reid’s polling numnber problems in Nevada).
jon1979 on November 24, 2009 at 2:03 AM
No. In fact, the final goal (socialist control of health care, irrevocably altering the relationship between the citizens and its elected officials) is within reach and they are determined to impose, electoral consequences be damned. If you understand the long view, their actions are reasonable. Once health care is under government control, there’s no turning back for the foreseeable future. Even if the Dems lose both the House and Senate in 2010, Barry will veto any attempts to roll back Pelosicare. He, and by extension the MSM, will then blame the GOP for the disaster that the Democrats inflicted upon us.
This, unfortunately, is what I think will happen.
Physics Geek on November 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM
A common conservative refrain, and useful for rallying the troops, but not really true. Especially if the bill is passed via reconcilation by a paper-thin margin, but even if it’s passed in regular order, there is absolutely no reason why Republicans couldn’t run on repeal, and mean it. If the plan by some miracle turns out not to be a fiscal train wreck, then such an approach might not go anywhere. If, however, it’s as bad as as it looks and causes as much distress as it might, it could still be overturned. Indeed, it might have to be simply because it cannot be paid for.
Even without complete fiscal breakdown, speaking of catastrophe, there is precedent for an unwanted bill on health insurance being repealed: Google Rostenkowski Catastrophic. This could be Catastrophic^2 or worse.
We are not obligated to believe that it isn’t within the power of the people in a republic to correct any legislative mistake. As Ramesh Ponnuru pointed out a few days ago, making it clear that repeal was going to be a top priority would also underline form wavering Dems that passing this bill would not get the issue off the table.
CK MacLeod on November 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Dems feel that if they desert Obama they’ll lose the Liberal vote and they still won’t gain the Conservative vote, but if they back Obama they’ll have the Liberal vote and maybe the American people will not be as mad as they are now by the time the next election comes around. After all, a month is a life-time in politics and Novemeber 2010 is a long way off. They just feel its better to have some allies then none. There main trouble is that 4 or 5 of their Senators won’t vote for the bill if it has a public option and 4 or 5 others won’t vote for it if it doesn’t have a public option.
Fred 2 on November 25, 2009 at 1:07 AM
No. Dems are not suicidal.
They are just what they are: IDIOTS.
TheAlamos on November 25, 2009 at 8:44 AM