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They Really Said That? Recent News and Quotes

posted at 9:25 am on November 11, 2009 by

In the spirit of bringing news and quotes to life here in the Greenroom, here’s some recent head-scratchers and “they really said that?”  (all bolded text is mine)

Chuck Todd on the Fort Hood Murders: “Certainly, yellow flags should have been raised—red is too harsh” (reported this morning on Morning Joe)

On Health Care

In a closed-door meeting, Clinton urged Senate Democrats to put aside their differences and pass healthcare legislation, just as the lawmakers were preparing to battle over the bill’s cost, its abortion policy and the impact it could have on families struggling to buy insurance.

 “There are going to be things in here you don’t like, but it’s important to get the job done,” Clinton told Democrats, according to Sen. Benjamin L. Cardin (D-Md.).

But there was rising concern that the goal of enacting an overhaul before the end of the year was slipping out of reach — and delay would be risky at a time when voters increasingly seem more concerned about getting and keeping jobs than in remaking the insurance system.

“The clock is ticking,” said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) after hearing from Clinton. “Getting it done this year will in effect clear the table for President Obama to focus on jobs.”  LINK

Got that?  If the healthcare bill doesn’t pass this year, President Obama’s lack of multi-tasking skills is a job killer.

The official $1.1 trillion price tag for the House Democrats’ health care bill excludes dozens of unfunded programs that could drive up costs when future congresses look to fund them.

Republicans said the health care bill includes two dozen programs whose funding is listed as “such sums as may be necessary.” That amounts to legislative jargon, they said, for “We’ll bill you later.”

But Democrats said leaving spending decisions up to future congresses is standard operating procedure under both parties and is the only way to let the appropriations committees weigh priorities. They said authorizing a program doesn’t mean it will get money, and they pointed to a host of programs that have never gotten off the ground because Congress has never funded them properly.

“If you’re calling these fuzzy math, then every authorization bill is fuzzy math,” said a Democratic aide, who requested anonymity. “It’s not fuzzy math at all. It’s not math. That’s the way Congress works. You authorize a program, and the appropriators appropriate for it.”  LINK

Has anyone noticed how the media promotes Obama’s Health Care Program by calling it a “signature domestic priority.”

WASHINGTON (AP) – The Democratic-controlled House has narrowly passed landmark health care reform legislation, handing President Barack Obama a hard won victory on his signature domestic priorityLINK

With unemployment over 10%, shouldn’t Mr. Obama’s “domestic priority” be putting people back to work instead of adding thousands in taxes and fees on individuals from a seriously flawed health care bill, or a energy bill that will destroy small businesses nationwide?

Under the CRA or CYA Category

 There’s a persistent delusion, on the part of many pundits, to the effect that we’re actually having a rational political discussion in this country. But we aren’t. The proposition that the Community Reinvestment Act caused all the bad stuff, because government forced helpless bankers into lending to Those People, has been refuted up, down, and sideways. The vast bulk of subprime lending came from institutions not subject to the CRA. Commercial real estate lending, which was mainly lending to rich white developers, not you-know-who, is in much worse shape than subprime home lending. Etc., etc……Paul Krugman  LINK

Speaking of Paul Krugman Paranoias:

Paranoid Paul Krugman Calls Tea Party Conservatives, Right-Wing Demonstrators, Paranoid

In the ironic paranoid fashion, when the liberal left see their utopian ideals crumbling around them, in their quintessential stereotypical method, they first look to those around them that have prevented their “realities” from going forward.  Instead of looking inward for flaws, the reactionary left pits their frustrations on “the enemy” by stressing them as paranoid.  In the classic Krugman style, Mr. Krugman sees the rise of a grassroots conservative movement as a potential, (and probable), threat to his collectivism society where the people’s lives are systematically controlled by its government.

 “Furthermore, the loss of both Congress and the White House left a power vacuum in a party accustomed to top-down management. At this point Newt Gingrich is what passes for a sober, reasonable elder statesman of the G.O.P. And he has no authority: Republican voters ignored his call to support a relatively moderate, electable candidate in New York’s special Congressional election.

Real power in the party rests, instead, with the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin (who at this point is more a media figure than a conventional politician). Because these people aren’t interested in actually governing, they feed the base’s frenzy instead of trying to curb or channel it. So all the old restraints are gone.”

 The point is that the takeover of the Republican Party by the irrational right is no laughing matter. Something unprecedented is happening here — and it’s very bad for America.  LINK

But wait!  There’s more……..

The title of Krugman’s recent opinion piece is Paranoia Strikes Deep.  But, as one of his followers/commenter on the left has surmised, the Republican Right is surely a threat:

“The froth of the mad-dog right is daily being unleashed in our airwaves. They have encouraged the murder of those who do not share their religious views on abortion, attempted to intimidate political rivals by displaying weapons at their rallies, and sowed with their hatred the seeds of Oklahoma City. Violence is clearly no problem for these folks. One must wonder, should they continue to gain in power and influence within the Republican party, whether we are looking at the beginning of the next American Civil War. If they are so gun-crazy now, and feel legitimized in their use of racist, xenophobic and homophobic language, how long will be before they begin parading their militias, and then how long before they begin putting them to use.”   Willemite Brooklyn, NY November 9th, 2009 8:04 am

Now that what I’m talkin’ about!  Bring on the Paranoia!

Global Warming/Climate Change/Global Cooling News:

For the nation as a whole, it was the third coolest October on record. The month was marked by an active weather pattern that reinforced unseasonably cold air behind a series of cold fronts. Temperatures were below normal in eight of the nation’s nine climate regions, and of the nine, five were much below normal. Only the Southeast climate region had near normal temperatures for October.  LINK

Bundle up folks.  It’s gonna be a long, cold, paranoid winter ahead.

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how long will be before they begin parading their militias

Yes, how long before they begin standing in front of polling places in pseudo-militaria, wielding clubs, shouting racial epithets and making threats?

Oh… wait…

Crawford on November 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Hey Krugman!

Two words: Lithium.

hillbillyjim on November 12, 2009 at 7:52 AM

If the healthcare bill doesn’t pass this year, President Obama’s lack of multi-tasking skills is a job killer.

That’s what happens when you elect someone with no experience who is only qualified for his job by the standards of affirmative action.

RachDubya on November 12, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I say we stuff Krugman into Schroedinger’s box. While in the box, Krugman is both alive and dead. It is not until you open the box that you determine whether he is one or the other.

Making quantum mechanics fun, that’s my goal!

GnuBreed on November 12, 2009 at 11:39 PM

HotAir — Politics, Culture, Media, 2017, Breaking News from a conservative viewpoint

McConnell may not get his wish on health care vote

Taylor Millard Jun 25, 2017 7:31 PM
Top Pick

Senate leadership wants a vote this week, others say, “Negative, Ghost Rider.”

Top Pick

Helping others without the government.

“…the reality is the reality.”

These kiosks don’t make $15 per hour or need benefits

Going for the record

“We will answer them on the field”

Taking it to the limit

Sunday morning talking heads

Jazz Shaw Jun 25, 2017 8:01 AM

Health care and tweeting and Russia, oh my!

Will they stay or will they go?

I can’t imagine what I was thinking when I said that

Rocking the boat majorly

Big government never contracts. It only grows more powerful

It’s only a “ban” until it becomes inconvenient

The decline and fall of Obamacare and the AHCA

Jazz Shaw Jun 24, 2017 8:31 AM

This was all over before it began

Fixing crime in America is a complicated issue

Taylor Millard Jun 23, 2017 8:31 PM

Cops alone won’t solve it.

Victim’s father was President Maduro’s supervisor back when he was a bus driver.

Democrats forgot all about the “era of good feelings”

“Bernie and Jane Sanders have lawyered up.”

“the Judiciary Committee is examining the circumstances surrounding the removal of James Comey.”

Winning isn’t everything. It is the only thing

Trump signs VA reform bill into law

John Sexton Jun 23, 2017 2:41 PM

“What happened was a national disgrace, and yet some of the employees involved in these scandals remained on the payrolls.”

A new era of something.

“…died suddenly in less than a week just after his return to the U.S.”

The shortsightedness of “Denounce and Preserve”

Taylor Millard Jun 23, 2017 12:11 PM

Pragmatism for the sake of pragmatism doesn’t always work.

Perhaps if you threw in a new car?

Gay marriages still growing, but not as fast

Andrew Malcolm Jun 23, 2017 10:31 AM

More, but not as quickly.

Should’ve stuck with the pirate gig. It was working for him

The battle for the rubble of Raqqa is underway

Andrew Malcolm Jun 23, 2017 8:51 AM

Won’t be much left.

Your list of demands is a publicity stunt

“what happened that day was emblematic of a deeply troubling trend among progressives…”

“The jobs are still leaving. Nothing has stopped.”

Bad vendor. Bad! No cookie!

“The Corps is just starting to grapple with the issues the court has identified.”

“So you want me to sing my praises, is that what you’re saying?”

Why would we possibly want that?

“I mean he sold our country to The Russians.”

I could think of someone else you might want to ask about…