Hot Air Mobile
Home The Vault Gear About
Hot Air -- get your fill


2009 election revisionism: Obama and Independents

posted at 12:32 am on November 6, 2009 by Karl
printer-friendly

What did the 2009 election in Virginia say about Independents’ support for Pres. Obama? At least one prominent academic challenges the narrative of Indie flight:

“The biggest misreported part of this election is that you have large numbers of independents who went for Obama now going for the Republicans. Not true,” said Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia.

Democratic-leaning independents who turned out big time in 2008 are being compared to a smaller number of conservative-leaning independents this year who likely include a fair number of “Tea Party” attendees, the professor said. The apparent swing among independents is a function of who turned out Tuesday and who didn’t, he said.

While a major storyline coming out of Tuesday’s results has been that skittish moderates abandoned Obama and fled to the GOP out of concerns over rising deficits, there is little evidence in exit polls to support that. Of Obama voters who showed up in Virginia Tuesday, only 12% slid to Republican Bob McDonnell, according to exit polls. With John McCain’s 2008 voters defecting to Deeds at a 5% rate in the same surveys, the net trickle away from Obama is hardly enough to explain, or even substantially contribute to, McDonnell’s 59% to 41% trouncing of Democrat Creigh Deeds.

Dr. Sabato’s analysis is based on fairly obvious points about intensity and turnout in off-year and midterm elections. Moreover, Sabato later makes the point that the 2009 elections showed that Obama was unable to save Democrats in such elections. However, his analysis should be subject to a few caveats.

First, as presidents become less popular, people tend to “remember” voting for the other guy. The percentage of Obama voters — and the percentage who then voted for McDonnell — may be understated.

Second, even taking the numbers at face value, the exit polls do not provide crosstabs that allow us to see the percentage of each bloc of party-switchers that were Independents. It is possible that there were more Independents that voted Obama-McDonnell than McCain-Deeds, because — to take one easy hypothesis — McCain had some appeal to Virginia Dems in rural areas or from military backgrounds.

Third, the exit poll inherently tells us nothing about Independents who did not vote in Virginia this year. Nationally, Gallup tells us that among adults, Independents are shifting to the right generally, and on a range of issues including government regulation, gun rights, immigration, traditional values, abortion and global warming. If we look at the current basic Pollster.com poll average, Obama’s job approval has dropped below 50% with Independents — and if those results are filtered to show just polls of voters, disapproval and approval are at a virtual tie (44.8%/44.7%). Depending on which average you prefer, Obama’s job approval with Independents has dropped 10-15% so far. Given that Virginia’s 2008 election results were close to the national average, we cannot assume that a larger turnout would have a difference-maker for Deeds in Virginia.

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

“conservative-leaning independents this year who likely include a fair number of “Tea Party” attendees, the professor said”

Hummmm?
Has anyone noticed that since Tuesdays election the term “teabaggers” has all but disappeared?

DSchoen on November 6, 2009 at 3:53 AM

Young, first time voters and African-American voters were the two main groups that were excited about voting in 2008, and apathetic in 2009. The question for 2010, and then 2012, is will the actions of Obama and the Democratically-controlled Congress over the next 12-36 months excite those groups to turn out again in 2008 numbers, as opposed to 2009.

Identity politics figure to give Obama something of a boost three years from now, but you can’t introduce New Coke twice with the same fanfare. Getting people to come out and vote for Obama and the Dems based on the potential for “Hope and Change” a second time in gone, and to get those same groups out, they’ll have to run on their record(s) and if that seems like a lost cause, demonize their GOP opponent(s) into being 10 times worse if elected that George W. Bush (which explains the fear and the ongoing attacks on Sarah Palin).

jon1979 on November 6, 2009 at 8:45 AM

They’re all going to try and suck up to conservative independents until the next election. However, it’s clear that the leadership of the house and senate don’t care a bit.

I’m glad. Let them keep lying, cheating and going back on their promises. I hope they keep up the nasty comments and stupid behavior right up to election day. The stupidity on their part makes it easier for us to take things back.

And Obama’s ridiculously callous (sp?) behavior yesterday is just another nail in the coffin for his hopey change. His dismay at having to nix the pats on the back for his Native American buddies in order to discuss the Fort Hood tragedy just show how important the military is to this man.

Keep up the good work, Nancy, Harry, Barry and the gang! We LOVE it! It’s giving us all the hope for change we could ask for.

Mad Mad Monica on November 6, 2009 at 10:19 AM


You must be logged in to post a comment.