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	<title>Comments on: Maine&#8217;s Marriage Shocker</title>
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		<title>By: Dodgeblogium &#187; Maine election night &#8216;09</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dodgeblogium &#187; Maine election night &#8216;09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posts his thoughts with a creepy quote from the No on one [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Maine Voters Say No to Same Sex (Gay) Marriage Law &#124; Scared Monkeys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maine Voters Say No to Same Sex (Gay) Marriage Law &#124; Scared Monkeys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thought high turnout would have meant gay marriage would have passed.&#160;To the contrary &#8230; In a shocker, Maine Gay marriage law goes up in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thought high turnout would have meant gay marriage would have passed.&nbsp;To the contrary &hellip; In a shocker, Maine Gay marriage law goes up in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Slublog</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/11/04/maines-marriage-shocker/comment-page-1/#comment-38996</link>
		<dc:creator>Slublog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Maine and Marriage...&lt;/strong&gt;

My thoughts on Tuesday&#039;s election results at The Greenroom.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Maine and Marriage&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>My thoughts on Tuesday&#8217;s election results at The Greenroom&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mossberg500</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/11/04/maines-marriage-shocker/comment-page-1/#comment-38947</link>
		<dc:creator>mossberg500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You couldn&#039;t pay me to care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You couldn&#8217;t pay me to care.</p>
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		<title>By: rockmom</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/11/04/maines-marriage-shocker/comment-page-1/#comment-38939</link>
		<dc:creator>rockmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Mainers may have voiced some disgust with all the outside operatives and media circus that came into the state in opposition to Question 1.  The people in that state seriously do not like outsiders coming in and telling them what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mainers may have voiced some disgust with all the outside operatives and media circus that came into the state in opposition to Question 1.  The people in that state seriously do not like outsiders coming in and telling them what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: petunia</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/11/04/maines-marriage-shocker/comment-page-1/#comment-38920</link>
		<dc:creator>petunia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In a defiant speech to several hundred lingering supporters, No on 1 campaign manager Jesse Connolly pledged that his side “will not quit until we know where every single one of these votes lives.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just ask Mormons in California how serious these threats are.  I&#039;ve heard some stories... jobs lost, people being followed and harassed.  This is a vicious, scary group of people!

Well just look at what happened to Miss California.  This is political extortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In a defiant speech to several hundred lingering supporters, No on 1 campaign manager Jesse Connolly pledged that his side “will not quit until we know where every single one of these votes lives.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Just ask Mormons in California how serious these threats are.  I&#8217;ve heard some stories&#8230; jobs lost, people being followed and harassed.  This is a vicious, scary group of people!</p>
<p>Well just look at what happened to Miss California.  This is political extortion.</p>
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		<title>By: cthulhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>cthulhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Initially, I felt a bit sympathetic to the people of Maine with this. Unlike many other jurisdictions, which have tried to impose gay marriage over an unwilling populace by judicial fiat (because that worked so well with abortion, after all -- totally settled the issue way back in 1973), Maine looked like it was going to go the legislative route.

But the Jesse Connolly quote shows that the veneer of rational discourse over the reality of entitlement and spite was very thin. It&#039;s far less about &quot;gays are people, too&quot; and far more about, &quot;...make you breeders accept us on &lt;strong&gt;our&lt;/strong&gt; terms.&quot;

So long as there is a &quot;homosexual agenda&quot; as such, which is used to divide &quot;independent-minded, moderate&quot; people from  &quot;backwards, bigoted haters&quot;, I suspect that there will be limited traction for gay marriage. You can&#039;t win people over by attacking them. Keeping to a &quot;societal agenda with room for all&quot; would be a much more successful plan -- but only if sincerely embraced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Initially, I felt a bit sympathetic to the people of Maine with this. Unlike many other jurisdictions, which have tried to impose gay marriage over an unwilling populace by judicial fiat (because that worked so well with abortion, after all &#8212; totally settled the issue way back in 1973), Maine looked like it was going to go the legislative route.</p>
<p>But the Jesse Connolly quote shows that the veneer of rational discourse over the reality of entitlement and spite was very thin. It&#8217;s far less about &#8220;gays are people, too&#8221; and far more about, &#8220;&#8230;make you breeders accept us on <strong>our</strong> terms.&#8221;</p>
<p>So long as there is a &#8220;homosexual agenda&#8221; as such, which is used to divide &#8220;independent-minded, moderate&#8221; people from  &#8220;backwards, bigoted haters&#8221;, I suspect that there will be limited traction for gay marriage. You can&#8217;t win people over by attacking them. Keeping to a &#8220;societal agenda with room for all&#8221; would be a much more successful plan &#8212; but only if sincerely embraced.</p>
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		<title>By: Kissmygrits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kissmygrits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing that they voted to keep higher excise taxes and not gain a taxpayer bill of rights.  Guess they figure only rich people pay those taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing that they voted to keep higher excise taxes and not gain a taxpayer bill of rights.  Guess they figure only rich people pay those taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: jwolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale &quot;Jesse Connolly&quot; Carnegie:  How to make enemies and lose all influence over people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale &#8220;Jesse Connolly&#8221; Carnegie:  How to make enemies and lose all influence over people.</p>
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		<title>By: jwolf</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/11/04/maines-marriage-shocker/comment-page-1/#comment-38909</link>
		<dc:creator>jwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow. That is an insanely unnerving quote.

MadisonConservative on November 4, 2009 at 9:54 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s an understatement.  In California they targeted &lt;em&gt;supporters&lt;/em&gt; but now in Maine they&#039;re going to go after the actual &lt;em&gt;voters?&lt;/em&gt;  Admittedly, I don&#039;t see how they can do that, unless they do away with secret ballots and have a sort of &quot;card check&quot; gay rights election.  But Connolly&#039;s quote is recklessly dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wow. That is an insanely unnerving quote.</p>
<p>MadisonConservative on November 4, 2009 at 9:54 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s an understatement.  In California they targeted <em>supporters</em> but now in Maine they&#8217;re going to go after the actual <em>voters?</em>  Admittedly, I don&#8217;t see how they can do that, unless they do away with secret ballots and have a sort of &#8220;card check&#8221; gay rights election.  But Connolly&#8217;s quote is recklessly dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: acat</title>
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		<dc:creator>acat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MadisonConservative on November 4, 2009 at 9:54 AM
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That quote is why the gay marriage rights will continue to lose without some serious soul-searching.

Because, for a significant percentage, it&#039;s not about equality.  It&#039;s about punishing those who disagree.

Mew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadisonConservative on November 4, 2009 at 9:54 AM<br />
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<p>That quote is why the gay marriage rights will continue to lose without some serious soul-searching.</p>
<p>Because, for a significant percentage, it&#8217;s not about equality.  It&#8217;s about punishing those who disagree.</p>
<p>Mew</p>
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		<title>By: steveegg</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind that on every other ballot issue, from a $71 million bond for highways to TABOR to a specific reduction in the car excise tax to marijuana, your fellow &quot;friends&quot; in Maine took the liberal position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind that on every other ballot issue, from a $71 million bond for highways to TABOR to a specific reduction in the car excise tax to marijuana, your fellow &#8220;friends&#8221; in Maine took the liberal position.</p>
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		<title>By: MadisonConservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/11/04/maines-marriage-shocker/comment-page-1/#comment-38901</link>
		<dc:creator>MadisonConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That is an insanely unnerving quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That is an insanely unnerving quote.</p>
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