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By: VA/NJ Elections: Good Night for Celebration, but I will explain the hangover - Cultural Gadfly

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:34:21 +0000

[...] was a really interesting post over at Hot Air a few days a go. J.E. Dyer was ripping Peggy Noonan for a recent editorial she wrote. Peggy’s article was solidly conservative canon, ripping [...]

By: allstonian

allstonian — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:05:19 +0000

Hey, Peggy, what happened to Preisdent Hopenchange? Are the Republicans and conservatives so effective, and strong, that they have overcome Mr. Wonderful’s charm and brilliance after only 8 months? Then, if this is so about the the strength and influence of the Republicans and conservatives, why is the constant braying I hear from the left telling me that conservatism is dead and that the Republican party is folding?

By: georgeofthedesert

georgeofthedesert — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:09:58 +0000

Outstanding commentary, but the key is that the current bunch of Republicans in Washington are still holdovers from the last group of corrupted electees. People should have known they were in for trouble when the Congressionals threw Newt under the bus. While not always agreeing with Newt (see NY 23 for example) at least he hadn’t fallen completely under the sway of corruption’s siren song. Grass roots Conservatisim will ultimately save the country, I think, even if it takes a new party to do it. Sorry Peggy time to move on.

By: nor

nor — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:03:11 +0000

Disillusionment will turn to a feeling of betrayal. And that will, in turn, convert to anger.

Prophetic writing on the wall one year ago.

By: yoda

yoda — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:01:45 +0000

Too late, Peggy has lost credibility with the conservatives Republicans….how’s that hopenchange working for you now Ms. Noonan? HuffnPuff is always hiring ~~good~~ anti-Republican writers.

By: georgealbert

georgealbert — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:32:21 +0000

Excellent article, but Peggy has been over-rated as a writer for a long time. The only thing she usually reveals in her writing is her contempt for people not in her social circle. She is neither creative nor insightful; more often than not she is, well, tiresome and lacking verve. Her embrace of Obama was nothing less than fawning over someones appearance and if she can be that shallow on the presidency, then it is likely she is that shallow intellectually.

By: Don L

Don L — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:29:54 +0000

Peggy has, I believe, the Obama disease; she has nothing of value to say, but boy does she say it well. The poster child for style over substance.

At one point she combined style with substance, but i suspect that here world view is constricted by the beltway, and shifts with the ebbs and floes of the political tides; hardly a good barometer; a short political cartoon, or a few short words from Sarah, crushes her artful prose.

Peggy is in (to quote Jimmy Carter) malaise I’m afraid -a funk from being on the wrong side at the worst possible time in history – and she knows it.

By: HondaV65

HondaV65 — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:56:18 +0000

Peggy Noonan won’t be relevant to the new Conservative Liberty movement. In fact – she’s not been relevant for quite awhile.

By: Geochelone

Geochelone — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:39:40 +0000

It’s over Peggy. Move over, Newt. Make room for Peggy on the couch.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on November 2, 2009 at 9:45 PM

LOL. “Make her sit on the couch” is our version of “throwing her under the bus.”

By: DBKP - Death By 1000 Papercuts - DBKP

DBKP - Death By 1000 Papercuts - DBKP — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:00:19 +0000

Survival Skills, Bloggers, Scooby Doo, Idiots: Morning Intell…

Cali vs. Texas, Scooby Doo, Muslim Mafia lawsuit, Kevin Spacey acts creepy, Fight in the News Room and Survival Skills: Morning Intell, Wednesday November 3, 2009.
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By: materialist

materialist — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:58:11 +0000

I already commented on JED’s site. I would just like to reiterate here that this is, in my humble opinion, an exceptionally well-thought and well-written piece. Worthy of Dr. Zero, or those of similar ilk. I used to share space with JED on the comments section at CONTENTIONS, back when they had comments. She was always good, so good that when they stopped the comments they took her on as a regular poster, and she has honored that position with insightful posts ever since. You folks should read and link her more often.

Re Peggy Noonan, I am constantly amazed that she retains such expansive space on the WSJ opinion page. Since her utterly embarrassing performance at the Republican convention, I don’t read her, and those I know on the right don’t either. I guess the democrats do. She has kind of joined David Brooks as the Manhattan caricature of a conservative spokesperson, and she apparently makes a good living at it. Just as David Brooks is the token “conservative” on the TIMES, “conservative”, of course, only to liberal readers to whom he panders, Peggy Noonan has become the token “thoughtful conservative” at the WSJ, “thoughtful”, of course, in the irrefutable opinion of those who think all thinking persons are either liberal or David Brooks “conservatives.”

A public debate between Peggy Noonan and Sarah Palin would be so much fun! But there is no way PN would agree. She knows that she is intellectually outmatched, though she doesn’t have the slightest idea why.

By: jon1979

jon1979 — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:53:06 +0000

If you look at Peggy, David Brooks, David Frum, Kathleen Parker, Christopher Buckley and others who did anything from actually voting for Obama to at the very least touting their expectations that he would change the tone of Washington, it’s really hard to go all the way and admit that the Sarah Palins of the world had Obama pegged better than they did.

Some, like Parker, are still in nearly complete denial about what they supported, while Noonan wants to just pretend that the period from mid-2008 to mid-2009 never happened in her punditry world. But while you can avoid saying in print the flyover rubes were right, you know it in your heart, and that’s in large part why Peggy’s so pessimistic, because if you admit they’re right then maybe they’re also smarter than you are about how to fix the problem. And political pundits don’t want to believe their readers are more savvy than she is.

By: ncborn

ncborn — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:55:48 +0000

When Peggy was smacking Hillary around, she had my attention. Now that she’s lost her mojo, not so much.

By: EMD

EMD — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:55:05 +0000

I don’t understand the fascination with Peggy Noonan. A year ago she was effusive about Obama. Now she refers to him (or his “ilk”) as stupid, callous children. I understand having a change of heart, but this is Scozzafavean duplicity. It does not impress.

Perhaps Ms. Noonan should take up fiction and hammer her purple prose into some delightful roman-a-clef that will be all the rage in Georgetown and lead to many late-night tweets with the myriad empty souls of Liberalism.

By: LASue

LASue — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:51:17 +0000

Great critique – just reading your words make me feel more optimistic and confident. That’s a very nice thing.

By: Valiant

Valiant — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:15:46 +0000

In 10 years, when the national debt doubles to $22 trillion, the problem will eat itself.

By: suzyk

suzyk — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:13:51 +0000

Peggy – you are so yesterday. Palin is today. Go see if Newt has room on the balcony with Calista.

By: Dr. Carlo Lombardi

Dr. Carlo Lombardi — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:45:13 +0000

It’s over Peggy. Move over, Newt. Make room for Peggy on the couch.

By: aigle

aigle — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:11:50 +0000

Peggy Noonan left the reservation years ago. She is too worried about sharing a vintage bottle of wine with her good, reasonable friends…liberal republicans like David Frum etc…

By: TheAlamos

TheAlamos — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:35:16 +0000

I totally agree.

Peggy Noonan has lost her marbles.

Apparently, she’s only reminiscing the good looks of Ronald Reagan.

But she totally forgot Ronald Reagan’s principles and history that made him the Greatest President of the 20th Century.

Ronald Reagan is man of optimism: that a Economically Free America, a conservative country that is free from Euro-socialist ideologies, is a prosperous America.

By: jeanie

jeanie — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:46:26 +0000

Ya know though—I’m beginning to catch sight of some problems whose solutions I’m doubting. Every now and then Peggy untangles her long words and poetically convoluted sentences and says something I can understand and relate to.

By: Howard Portnoy

Howard Portnoy — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:25:37 +0000

Good article, J.E. This is a point that many liberals and conservatives fail to recognize. It’s a point Glenn Beck (dare I mention that name) keeps hammering over and over.