PRESIDENTIAL DOUBLESPEAK—”OUR PLAN” DOES NOT FEDERALLY FUND ABORTIONS
posted at 8:42 am on October 27, 2009 by Rovin
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Doublespeak: 1) any language that pretends to communicate but actually does not. 2) a statement that is not literally false but that cleverly avoids an unpleasant truth.
The unpleasant truth came on the night President Obama told Congress and the American people that quote: ‘And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up: Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions” unquote. But, “Houston,–(Mr. President)– we have a problem”. According to an interview Terence Jeffery (the editor in chief at CNSNews) had with Bart Stupak (D.-Mich.), Stupak says the president told him “he was not talking about the actual bill drafted in the House but about the president’s own health care plan”:
(CNSNews.com)
- Rep. Bart Stupak (D.-Mich.) told CNSNews.com that President Barack Obama told him in a telephone conversation that when he said in his Sept. 9 speech to a joint session of Congress that “under our plan no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions” he was not talking about the actual bill drafted in the House but about the president’s own health care plan—which has never been written.
”I don’t know if it is a game of semantics or what,” Stupak said of Obama’s nationally televised declaration to Congress that the health-care plan will not allow federal funding of abortion. Both the House and Senate versions of the health-care bill permit federal funds to pay for insurance plans that cover abortions. LINK
Here is the video link to the conversation between Jeffery and Stupak
Enter representative Lois Capps:
On July 30, the committee approved an amendment to the bill sponsored by Rep. Lois Capps (D.-Calif.) that mandates that at least one insurance plan in each exchange must cover abortions.
In the House Energy and Commerce Committee, Stupak offered his own amendment to the health care bill that would have prohibited federal funds from being used to cover “any part of the costs of any health plan that includes coverage of abortion.” This amendment mirrors the language of the Hyde Amendment that is included each year in various annual appropriations bills. Because the Hyde Amendment only affects funding included in the appropriations bill that carries it, its prohibition on abortion funding would not apply to the permanent funding stream for federal health insurance subsidies that would be set up by the health-care reform bills drafted by the House and Senate.
Stupak’s amendment was defeated in the committee on July 31, by a 27-to-31 vote. Stupak’s next move was to try to bring his amendment to the house floor, but the Speaker of the House will not allow it:
Stupak told CNSNews.com he has organized a group of “about 40 likeminded Democrats” who will try to kill the health care bill itself unless House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) agrees to allow an up-or-down vote on his amendment when the bill comes to the House floor.
“The speaker has told me I will not have my amendment,” said Stupak. “It will not be made in order.”
Now we should try to recall that this is NOT “President Obama’s plan” that he was addressing to the Congress and EVERY AMERICAN, except, also according to Stupak, the President supports Stupak’s goal of prohibiting federal funding of abortion.
Stupak also said that during his telephone conversation with Obama the president indicated that he supports Stupak’s goal of prohibiting federal funding of abortion through the health-care reform plan, although the president did not say that he supports the specific language of Stupak’s amendment.
Paging Joe Wilson………..
(please read the complete article at CNSNews.com—-so you can be more thoroughly confused about “President Obama’s plan”. Note: all block quotes are from this CNSNews story)
Pehaps I should check with Mr. Morrissey to find out if this could go under the category of an Obamateurism?









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Call it semantics if you want to, but I wouldn’t buy a used car from this guy. He has read from the totus everything he needed to say to fool over half the people who voted for him. Joe Wilson had it right and he was forced to bow down and apologize and then be reprimanded for saying what we all know. You Lie!
Kissmygrits on October 27, 2009 at 9:43 AM
There’s a difference between having funds paid to plans that provide for abortion and having funds paid for abortions themselves.
Jimbo3 on October 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM
That’s quite profound Jimbo. There’s also a difference between the sun and the moon. One, we spend federal (public) dollars to explore—at taxpayers approval, and the other, well, flying to the sun might be a little too expensive just to find out it’s hot. The majority of the folks in this country (including a big chunk of Democrats)prefer not to pay for abortions with federal tax dollars—and that includes the government insurance plans.
Bottom line—your fearless wonder has lied to everyone in this nation.
Rovin on October 27, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Sorry, Rovin, have to disagree. It looks to me like the Baucus bill says that no plan that offers abortion services can use funds from the tax subsidies or the tax credits to pay for abortion services and has to actuarial segregate funds from participants to pay for abortions. See below.
‘‘(b) PROHIBITION OF USE OF FEDERAL FUNDS.—
14 ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—If a qualified health bene15
fits plan provides coverage of services described in
16 subsection (a)(2)(A), the offeror of the plan shall
17 not use any amount attributable to any of the fol18
lowing for purposes of paying for such services:
19 ‘‘(A) The credit under section 36B(b) of
20 the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (and the
21 amount of the advance payment of the credit
22 under section 2248 of the Social Security Act).
23 ‘‘(B) Any cost-sharing subsidy under section 2247.
1 ‘‘(2) SEGREGATION OF FUNDS.—In the case of
2 a plan to which paragraph (1) applies, the offeror of
3 the plan shall, out of amounts not described in para4
graph (1), segregate an amount equal to the actu5
arial amounts determined under paragraph (3) for
6 all enrollees from the amounts described in para7
graph (1).
If you look at the provision against funding assisted suicide, you’ll see that the abortion provision goes further in making sure that any subsidies aren’t used to pay for plans that provide assisted suicide:
(a) PROTECTING AMERICANS AND ENSURING TAX10
PAYER FUNDS IN GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE PLANS
DO NOT SUPPORT OR FUND PHYSICIAN-ASSISTED SUI12
CIDE.—The Federal Government, and any State or local
government or health care provider that receives Federal
financial assistance under this Act (or under an amend15
ment made by this Act) or any health plan created under
this Act (or under an amendment made by this Act), shall
not pay for or reimburse any health care entity to provide
for any health care item or service furnished for the pur19
pose of causing, or for the purpose of assisting in causing,
the death of any individual, such as by assisted suicide,
euthanasia, or mercy killing.
Bottom line: The way I see it, I think the bill does prohibit federal funds from being used to pay for abortions.
Jimbo3 on October 27, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Your looking at the Baucus bill and not looking at the House bill, which is where the premise of this story is written. Stand by my liberal friend. There’s more to the house bill developing as we speak.
Rovin on October 28, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Aah, got it.
Jimbo3 on October 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM