Science and Physics Proves Balloon Boy Flight Not Possible—Global Warming “Experts” Nervous

posted at 10:51 am on October 23, 2009 by
[ Enviro-nitwits ]   

During the incident Thursday, when Heene said his 37-pound son may have been inside the flying-saucer-shaped balloon, the sheriff’s department contacted a specialist at Colorado State University to determine whether it could carry the child.

Based on the dimensions for the balloon that Heene provided at the time, the specialist “determined that it was, in fact, possible for this balloon to have launched,” Larimer County Sheriff Jim Alderden told reporters Sunday.

But after they recovered the balloon and checked the actual measurements, authorities discovered “it was not capable of lifting off” with the boy on board, Alderden said.

The reason, according to the sheriff, is that the contraption weighs 18 pounds more than what Heene said.  (emphasis mine)    LINK

See what happens when a few numbers are changed to fit the argument?  Presto, you have “man made global warming”.  The formula for little Falcon Heene to soar into the blue Colorado skies was based of false information.  The nation got a lesson in physics that made perfect sense when the correct data was presented and last weeks balloon flight became a hoax, and yet they still refuse to question the computer models that the “scientific community” uses to produce the global warming hoax. Talk about “pre-existing conditions”.

Below is a good argument against this hoax, (man made global warming), that even I, (who got a C- in science) can understand.  And, while I’m quite certain there is a fair argument to refute this one, my contention is about the methods of achieving/proving data supplied by scientist and not necessarily the methods used to collect, or submit the data:

There has been atmospheric cooling the last 8 years, and no new high global annual temperatures in the last 11 years. None of the computer models replicate this fact. Anthropogenic (or man caused) global warming is not proved.

The global warming adherents base their argument of proof on more than 20 different computer models called general circulation models (also known as global climate models or GCMs). Each computer model is composed of dozens of mathematical equations representing known scientific laws, theories, and hypotheses. Each equation has one or more constants. The constants associated with known laws are very well defined. The constants associated with known theories are generally accepted but probably some of them may be off by a factor of 2 or more, maybe even an order of magnitude. The equations representing hypotheses, well, sometimes the hypotheses are just plain wrong.

 Then each of these equations has to be weighted against each other for use in the computer models, so that adds an additional variable (basically an educated guess) for each law, theory, and hypothesis. This is where the models are tweaked to mimic past climate measurements.

The SCIENTIFIC METHOD is: (1) Following years of academic study of the known physical laws and accepted theories, and after reviewing some data, come up with a hypothesis to explain the data. (2) Develop a plan to obtain and analyze new data. (3) Collect and analyze the data, this may even require new technology not previously available. (4) Determine if the hypothesis is correct, needs refinement, or is wrong. Either way, new data is available for other researchers. (5) Submit results, including data, for peer review and publication.

The output of the computer models run out nearly 90 years forward is considered to be data, but it is not a measurement of a physical phenomenon. Also, there is no way to analyze this so called data to determine if any or which of the hypotheses in the models are correct, need refinement, or are wrong. Also, this method cannot indicate if other new hypotheses need to be generated and incorporated into the models. IT JUST IS NOT THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD.

The worst flaw in the AGW argument is the treatment of GCM computer generated outputs as data. They then use it in follow on hypotheses. For example, if temperature rises by X degrees in 50 years, then Y will be effected in such-and-such a way resulting in Z. Then the next person comes along and says, well, if Z happens, the effect on W will be a catastrophe. “I need (and deserve) more money to study the effects on W.” Hypotheses, stacked on hypotheses, stacked on more hypotheses, all based on computer outputs that are not data, using a process that does not lend to proof using the SCIENTIFIC METHOD. Look at their results, IF, MIGHT, and COULD are used throughout their news making results. And when one of the underlying hypotheses is proven incorrect, well, the public only remembers the doomsday results 2 or three iterations down the hypotheses train. The hypotheses downstream are not automatically thrown out and can even be used for more follow on hypotheses.  (Submitted by NucEngineer (not verified) on Sat, 08/01/2009 – 10:28.  LINK

See ya on  the ski slopes……..hypothetically speaking.

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Great work.

rukiddingme on October 23, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Any theorem based on a flawed premise, is inherently wrong.

Basics of logic…

Romeo13 on October 23, 2009 at 12:04 PM

I actually calculated for myself how much helium would be needed to lift the 40 pound kid, and it would have to be a lot larger than that balloon. That didn’t even take into account the weight of the balloon.

Jeff M (Formerly Jeff_McAwesome) on October 23, 2009 at 3:00 PM

Any theorem based on a flawed premise, is inherently wrong.

Basics of logic…

Romeo13 on October 23, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Then, why are we having to “eat” this BS? (I know, it’s about the money, but don’t these “reputable scientist” even care about their reputations any longer?)

Rovin on October 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Then, why are we having to “eat” this BS? (I know, it’s about the money, but don’t these “reputable scientist” even care about their reputations any longer?)

Rovin on October 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM

I’ve thought about this a lot. Look at John Holdren’s career or Paul Ehrlich’s. They’ve made plenty of provably wrong predictions. Never seems to bother them. Never seems to hurt their career. Then it hit me:

Everything you’ve heard about how science is supposed to work is wrong. Proofs, hypotheses, all that, it’s bunch of hooey when it comes to hard-to-prove theories. Here’s how it works: Someone spins a plausible yarn wrapped in scientific jargon. If convincing enough, and if it benefits an academic faction enough, it’s accepted and assumed as an axiom.

Eventually scientists with a modicum of skill and ethics point out that this new myth is junk. The older scientists continue to cling to it. Newer scientists give it lip service ’til the old fogeys are retired or in decline. Then a new understanding is announced.

Major scientific theories change generationally, not through experimentation and proof. Look at Freudian theory. Most of it was pure bunk (When was the last time you wanted to kill your dad and sleep with your mom?), but it held sway for SIXTY YEARS. Was there ever any truly scientific experiments proving Oedipal theory? Yet it took two generations for someone to point to the naked emperor.

Applied science (i.e. engineering) is science. It works or it doesn’t. Non-applied science, anything hard to prove or falsify, too often generates diseased cults of lab-smock wearing academics.

theCork on October 24, 2009 at 3:19 AM

One of the main functions of these ‘models’ is to make verifiable predictions. Einstein’s Theory of Relativity predicted that the Sun would bend light rays, and by how much they would be bent. It took a while to actually prove this was true. Yet if just ONE prediction by this theory doesn’t check out, then the theory is no longer valid. It is valid in some cases, and a more general purpose theory or model is sought.

None of the AGW models predict this current cooling. Yet CO2 levels continue to rise. Thus the theory/model is not valid. Period.

GnuBreed on October 24, 2009 at 5:47 AM

theCork on October 24, 2009 at 3:19 AM

Damn, that comment should be promoted from the Green Room!

Sekhmet on October 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Damn, that comment should be promoted from the Green Room!

Sekhmet on October 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Thanks. I haven’t met anyone who disagrees with my analysis, AGW is just the latest instance.

theCork on October 25, 2009 at 1:48 AM

What’s truly disturbing to me is how supposedly “educational” media programming such as The Science Channel, The Discover Channel, National Geographic, Animal and Green Planets on cable television and Live Science and such on the web, are not only deep in the green tank (such as glowingly reporting on the cute whales of of the energy world — windmills — while very seldomly mentioning nuclear energy and when they do so, darkly), but avail not only bogus but alarmist science and outrageously dated science/reports as well. And yet there’s no counterbalancing or checking program to all this misleading “science” at all!

James Greenidge
Queens NY

jamesgreenidge on October 26, 2009 at 5:52 AM