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ObamaCare astroturfers deliver bad news for Democrats

posted at 12:31 am on September 28, 2009 by

A new poll commissioned by Health Care for America Now — the leftist Borg astroturfing government-controlled healthcare — delivers still more bad news for Democrats.

The HCAN poll shows that the individual mandate is opposed in swing House districts by 60 to 34 percent. (FWIW, a recent Zogby poll had opposition to the mandate closer to 70 percent in swing districts.)

However, in a shocking coincidence with HCAN’s agenda, “[r]equiring everyone to buy and be covered by a health insurance plan with a choice between a public option and private insurance plan” is supported in swing districts by 50 to 46 percent.

The poll shows that nationally, opposition to the mandate is greater — and the supposed support for the combo is also greater. The supposed support for the combo is actually worse and more polarized in swing districts than nationally.

Moreover, as the HuffPo’s Sam Stein admits, “the polling that the group sponsors should be taken with a grain of salt. Other pollsters, in particular, have criticized the use of the word ‘choice’ in questions about the public plan.” Stein avoids expressly reminding his readers that taking the word “choice” out of polling on the proposed government-run plan causes support for the so-called “public option” to plummet into the forties. Stein has written about this, making the omission all the more glaring.

Prior polls show that people are unwilling to pay less than $10 weekly to have a public option. Support also craters when people are reminded that the government-run plan is a Trojan horse for single-payer, Canadian-style healthcare.

The White House and lefties like Rep. Dennis Kucinich believe the “public option” is dead. Indeed, Kucinich thinks the Blue Dogs are doing the White House’s bidding on the “public option.” Inch-deep support and intense lobbying against it would seem to be fatal.

In sum, when Mickey Kaus asks whether voting for ObamaCare might be suicidal for Democrats, he is asking the right question. When even HCAN is delivering bad news dressed up as good propaganda, the answer becomes even clearer.

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Today is a day of prayer and fasting. Please pray for our troops and our country. Pray to open our eyes and ears to the truth. May everyone stay safe and peaceful, Amen.

jeaneeinabottle on September 28, 2009 at 1:32 AM

Obamascare ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA0MTNjHF08

macncheez on September 28, 2009 at 1:52 AM

The left is really good at simply changing the definitions of words to fit their agenda.

Progressive = liberal = back to progressive

Global warming = climate change

Government plan = public option = choice!11!!!!1!!11!

Tax = somehow no longer when the government takes money from you

And so on…

BadgerHawk on September 28, 2009 at 7:25 AM

macncheez on September 28, 2009 at 1:52 AM

That was great. Thanks.

keebs on September 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.

Keep shooting at Obama’s hellcare.

jukin on September 28, 2009 at 3:03 PM

Crew: Captain, the ship is sinking fast?
Captain: Don’t bother me now, I’m off to Copenhagen!
Crew: But Captain, the ship????
Captain: Full speed ahead! and Michelle, grab my bags, and the teleprompter… it’s time to go…!

ted c on September 28, 2009 at 3:08 PM

Did you know that the government won’t run Medicine, even though they’ll be paying for almost all of it?

Did you know that for as little as $0.03 a decade you and everyone you’ve ever thought about (and admit it, you’ve thought about Dr. Aki Ross more than once) will be covered forever and ever and puppies will stop dying?

Did you know that if you oppose even one word in any of the bills brought forth, you are against people being allowed to have emergency medical care?

Did you know that if you’ve found yourself questioning what Dear Leader says, even silently, you have an obvious pathological need to murder your own dear, sweet grandmother?

Admit it, you want the public option and mandatory jail time for all republicans.

fronclynne on September 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

Where’s the vaccine for the rampant Obamavirus? I hear it has spread to Denmark!

Cybergeezer on September 28, 2009 at 3:13 PM

And the question was:
“You are in favor of everyone getting health care, right, or are you a racist?”

rbj on September 28, 2009 at 3:14 PM

…bbbbbbut Will Ferrell told me 80% favor this plan!

hoosiermama on September 28, 2009 at 3:15 PM

puppies will stop dying?

fronclynne on September 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

Now that’s a plan I can support.

Will there be unicorns too?

jhffmn on September 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM

ObamaCare will kill you faster than terminal illness.

Farfed on September 28, 2009 at 3:33 PM

…bbbbbbut Will Ferrell told me 80% favor this plan!

hoosiermama on September 28, 2009 at 3:15 PM

80% favor it 42.5% of the time in swing states.

jhffmn on September 28, 2009 at 3:34 PM

I’m concerned about this $25k fine and/or a year in jail if you don’t have ‘a’ health care plan. Inevitably it will come down to JUST the government plan if this fascist crap passes.

If that’s the case, then I refuse. I’ll pull my money from the banks and boycott the government plan. Then when they come for me…there’s gonna be trouble. BIG trouble.

I hope it will be the same across the country. This kind of tyranny only gets worse, especially with socialist fascist liberals dictating to us. Perhaps it’s time to show these assclowns who is actually running this show.

Spiritk9 on September 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM

…bbbbbbut Will Ferrell told me 80% favor this plan!

hoosiermama on September 28, 2009 at 3:15 PM

80% favor it 42.5% of the time in swing states.

jhffmn on September 28, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Lies, damned lies and STATISTICS!!! DX

Orange Doorhinge on September 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM

The left is really good at simply changing the definitions of words to fit their agenda.

BadgerHawk on September 28, 2009 at 7:25 AM

You’re forgetting “extremist” = anyone who holds traditional American values.

Sharke on September 28, 2009 at 4:30 PM

The left is really good at simply changing the definitions of words to fit their agenda.

Progressive = liberal = back to progressive

Global warming = climate change

Government plan = public option = choice!11!!!!1!!11!

Tax = somehow no longer when the government takes money from you

And so on…

BadgerHawk on September 28, 2009 at 7:25 AM

Don’t forget John Kerry last week, while claiming not to know what ‘cap-and-trade’ means, saying,
“This is not a cap-and-trade bill, it’s a pollution reduction bill” …

mrt721 on September 28, 2009 at 6:12 PM