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		<title>By: uber</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/09/25/more-obamacare-delusions/comment-page-1/#comment-32858</link>
		<dc:creator>uber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holy crap batman where is the evil one (bush) To blame this on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy crap batman where is the evil one (bush) To blame this on?</p>
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		<title>By: BobMbx</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/09/25/more-obamacare-delusions/comment-page-1/#comment-32848</link>
		<dc:creator>BobMbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A NYT poll of Speaker Pelosi&#039;s staff shows nearly unanimous support for single payer health care.

(Margin of error +/- 0)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In a few weeks, it&#039;s the only place left to find support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A NYT poll of Speaker Pelosi&#8217;s staff shows nearly unanimous support for single payer health care.</p>
<p>(Margin of error +/- 0)</p></blockquote>
<p>In a few weeks, it&#8217;s the only place left to find support.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rovin,

1. Even Nate Silver contemplates that this process is going to take a looooong time (his words).

2. The August recess was good for showing the intensity of opposition, and getting that into the media.  That was important.  But the polling had ObamaCare tanking long before then, which is why Congress couldn&#039;t ram this through before the recess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rovin,</p>
<p>1. Even Nate Silver contemplates that this process is going to take a looooong time (his words).</p>
<p>2. The August recess was good for showing the intensity of opposition, and getting that into the media.  That was important.  But the polling had ObamaCare tanking long before then, which is why Congress couldn&#8217;t ram this through before the recess.</p>
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		<title>By: Daggett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that if you don&#039;t buy insurance under Obamacare, you get up to 1 year in jail, or $25,000 fine. 

I say take the year in jail.  You&#039;ll probably be unemployed anyway, and you&#039;ll get free health care in jail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that if you don&#8217;t buy insurance under Obamacare, you get up to 1 year in jail, or $25,000 fine. </p>
<p>I say take the year in jail.  You&#8217;ll probably be unemployed anyway, and you&#8217;ll get free health care in jail.</p>
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		<title>By: VelvetElvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>VelvetElvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;WHAT? Being the sacrificial lambs being herded off a cliff isn’t popular?

marklmail on September 25, 2009 at 2:20 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why of &lt;em&gt;course&lt;/em&gt; it&#039;s popular...with the wolf pack living in the gorge at the bottom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>WHAT? Being the sacrificial lambs being herded off a cliff isn’t popular?</p>
<p>marklmail on September 25, 2009 at 2:20 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Why of <em>course</em> it&#8217;s popular&#8230;with the wolf pack living in the gorge at the bottom.</p>
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		<title>By: marklmail</title>
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		<dc:creator>marklmail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT? Being the sacrificial lambs being herded off a cliff isn&#039;t popular?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT? Being the sacrificial lambs being herded off a cliff isn&#8217;t popular?</p>
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		<title>By: ConservativePartyNow</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConservativePartyNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0909/Ensign_receives_handwritten_confirmation_.html?showall&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senator Ensign was right!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0909/Ensign_receives_handwritten_confirmation_.html?showall" rel="nofollow">Senator Ensign was right!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rovin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl,

In your last link of this article, Michael Goldfarb at the Weekly Standards says, &quot;The public option will probably be dumped tomorrow. Would co-ops survive a real public debate? Not likely.&quot;  While this may be good news because we, (most of us), know that both the public option or co-ops mean some form of government control over health care choices, my concern is at what point would there be &quot;public debate&quot; for even the co-ops?  After the committee has already passed/written this as proposed legislation?.  While Mr. Goldfarb suggest that co-ops wouldn&#039;t likely survive public debate, isn&#039;t the horse already out of the barn so to speak?

I guess my point is, we didn&#039;t seem to get much time to have a public debate before the stimulus package was shoved down our throats.  If it wasn&#039;t for the August recess, public opposition to this and most of the other spending legislation may have never reached the level where our reps were forced to consider the preservation of their jobs.  It just seems there is a short window of time between when legislators pass their &quot;stuff&quot; out of committees and the chance for real public debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl,</p>
<p>In your last link of this article, Michael Goldfarb at the Weekly Standards says, &#8220;The public option will probably be dumped tomorrow. Would co-ops survive a real public debate? Not likely.&#8221;  While this may be good news because we, (most of us), know that both the public option or co-ops mean some form of government control over health care choices, my concern is at what point would there be &#8220;public debate&#8221; for even the co-ops?  After the committee has already passed/written this as proposed legislation?.  While Mr. Goldfarb suggest that co-ops wouldn&#8217;t likely survive public debate, isn&#8217;t the horse already out of the barn so to speak?</p>
<p>I guess my point is, we didn&#8217;t seem to get much time to have a public debate before the stimulus package was shoved down our throats.  If it wasn&#8217;t for the August recess, public opposition to this and most of the other spending legislation may have never reached the level where our reps were forced to consider the preservation of their jobs.  It just seems there is a short window of time between when legislators pass their &#8220;stuff&#8221; out of committees and the chance for real public debate.</p>
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		<title>By: rockmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That NYT article ranks very high on the unintentional comedy scale.  65% would support a public program &quot;like Medicare&quot;.  That&#039;s actually a terribly small number.  Who DOESN&#039;T want to get something for free that they are now paying for?  Over a third of &quot;adults&quot; don&#039;t.  They can smell the snake oil this Administration is trying to sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That NYT article ranks very high on the unintentional comedy scale.  65% would support a public program &#8220;like Medicare&#8221;.  That&#8217;s actually a terribly small number.  Who DOESN&#8217;T want to get something for free that they are now paying for?  Over a third of &#8220;adults&#8221; don&#8217;t.  They can smell the snake oil this Administration is trying to sell.</p>
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