Lessons from the NBC/WSJ poll: The blame frame

posted at 9:13 am on September 24, 2009 by

Public opinion polls are a surefire way for the establishment media to manufacture news — if not consent. The media, pundits, bloggers, etc., love polls because they seem to introduce a level of scientific precision into political analysis. While the underlying scientific theory of polling is generally sound, the practice is as much art as science. It is useful to occasionally look at a poll from that perspective.

For example, consider the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll. A post on the poll by Allahpundit focused my attention on question 35:

If health care reform legislation does not get passed this year, who do you feel would be most to blame –– President Obama, the Democrats in Congress, or the Republicans in Congress?

The first notable aspect of the question is the use of the word “blame.” This poll is put together by a Democrat and a Republican, but the use of the word “blame” speaks volumes about how pervasive the Beltway mindset is. Had someone suggested the word “credit,” the problem would have been obvious to them.

I suspect that the attempted justification for using “blame” in this context would be that other polls show that people want healthcare reform in the abstract. But that merely raises a secondary question, i.e., how relevant are the poll questions that ask about the desirability of healthcare reform in the abstract. There are any number of issues where polling shows widespread opinion that there is a problem and no consensus regarding a solution, e.g., the federal deficit. Abstract questions on healthcare reform serve as a talking point for Democrats, but reveal nothing about public opinion in particular. Nor do they address the other polling that consistently shows widespread satisfaction with the status quo. In 1993-94, the latter sentiment defeated ClintonCare. As attitudes were slightly more anti-reform from the outset this year, why should anyone have taken the abstract question seriously?

The second notable aspect of the “blame” frame is that (ironically) it is not useful to Democrats. The Left has been busy for weeks and weeks trying to convince moderate Democrats that the failure of ObamaCare would be disastrous for the party in the 2010 midetrm elections. The math does not support their argument. Putting that inconvenient truth aside, if only 16% of adults will “blame” Democrats for ObamaCare’s failure, there is little incentive for moderates to vote for a scheme that may well be unpopular in their district or state.

On a related point, the WaPo’s Ezra Klein cherry-picked question 15 from this poll — showing the approval ratings for Pres. Obama versus Congressional Republicans on handling healthcare — to argue that the GOP strategy is “something of a kamikaze mission” that will ultimately make it impossible for any party to govern. Klein overlooks that question 15 does not bother to ask for an approval of Congressional Democrats on the issue, despite the fact that the legislation at issue is being drafted by them.

Klein also overlooks question 7, which asked respondents whether they would prefer to see next year’s elections result in a Congress controlled by Democrats or a Congress controlled by Republicans. The 48%-45% Democrat lead (among adults, not registered or likely voters) is the smallest lead in five years of this poll.

Klein further overlooks question 8, which asks people whether their representative deserves to be reelected, or whether it is time to give a new person a chance. That response — 40% reelect, 49% new person — is almost identical to the numbers the NBC/WSJ poll recorded in September 1994, just before the GOP tsunami swept Democrats from control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Then, as now, the GOP opposed the Democrats, and then governed Congress for a dozen years. They passed a lot of legislation that Klein probably opposed (not to mention some I opposed). Neither history nor the NBC/WSJ poll’s “blame” frame suggest anything suicidal in opposing the Obama agenda now.

The purpose here is not so much to beat up on Klein. Rather, it is to show that the establishment media to which he now belongs is often incapable of extracting itself from the left-leaning frames the media creates. They never resolve the cognitive dissonance created from their belief that the GOP will be “blamed” and suffer for opposing the Democrats’ nanny state agenda with the topline result of poll after poll showing the GOP being the (generally undeserving) beneficiary of increasing public opposition to that agenda.

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So why does the same poll show 63% of the respondents disapproved of what the Republicans have been doing with regard to healthcare? Looks to me like the respondents want the Republicans to be negotiating with the Democrats over this, not stonewalling.

Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Actually, the first notable problem with the question is the use of the word “feel” instead of “think.” While it is not surprising that the pollsters would phrase the question in the same fashion as a 13 year old, it is high time the intelligence level of the pollsters be brought at least to a high school level.

Awilson on September 24, 2009 at 1:28 PM

No matter how they spin it, the majority doesn’t want what they’re selling. Period.

marklmail on September 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Hey, I feel comfortable with The Messiah – he is a lying scum bag Marxist Commie Not-born-in-the-USA duplicitous God-hating thief 100% of the time. I find his consistency comfortable. You never have to wonder about The One. You ALWAYS know he’s lying and you always know he hates America! Got to love those Dems!

Cinday Blackburn on September 24, 2009 at 1:43 PM

So why does the same poll show 63% of the respondents disapproved of what the Republicans have been doing with regard to healthcare? Looks to me like the respondents want the Republicans to be negotiating with the Democrats over this, not stonewalling.

Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Why does it look that way to you? Of course the Democrats in the sample are going to feel that way, which is almost certainly the bulk of that 63%. On what basis should we assume that the remainder are people who want the GOP to cave, as opposed to fight harder?

Of course, the point of the post is that Jimbo3′s concern is actually not all that relevant. What matters to politicians most is how they are doing. And if the GOP can pull into a statistical tie with the Dems on the generic ballot with adults, and get reelect numbers like we saw in 1994 by doing what they have been doing, that’s what they are going to do, because for all of the “blame” frame, the bottom line favors the GOP opposition to ObamaCare.

Karl on September 24, 2009 at 2:09 PM

So why does the same poll show 63% of the respondents disapproved of what the Republicans have been doing with regard to healthcare?

That would be mainly because the Republican proposals in Congress have received next to no coverage from most media outlets.

Looks to me like the respondents want the Republicans to be negotiating with the Democrats over this, not stonewalling.

Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM

I suppose you may be unaware, due to the slanted non-reportage, but the Democrats in Congress who have been crafting these various pieces of legislation have effectively shut the Republicans out of the process.

hillbillyjim on September 24, 2009 at 2:59 PM

As a conservative, I want to reform certain aspects of health care, mainly tort reform and interstate competition between the health insurers which most American want. Both of these ideas have been recommended by the republicans. However, the democrats in congress immediately takes these two ideas off the table and will not even consider them.

Therefore, if health care reform does not pass, it is the democrats fault. They want to control our health care and lives, plus at the same time, increase taxes. Neither of which the American Public wants. Where is the poll that list all the options to determine which option most Americans want to see enacted.

If a poll was done listed all the options such as:

1. Public Option
2. Illegal Immigrants
3. Co-ops
4. Medical Savings
5. Tort Reform
6. Interstate Competition
7. One payer system
8. Make medical profession profitable so more young people will become doctors to increase competition
9 to infinity

There is a myriad of choices to overhauling or tuning up the US health care system. The democrats are doing everything that the American public does not want except for those that want free health care provided for them.

PrettyD_Vicious on September 24, 2009 at 3:02 PM

I left out that it is also the MSM’s fault, but that would be redundant because they are the propaganda branch of the democrat party.

PrettyD_Vicious on September 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Hillybillyjim, a few of the Republicans have been participating in the conferences, but why should the Dems bother with the others when they have told the Dems that they want no part of this effort? And I have read the GOP bills and find them, well, underwhelming. Throwing money at states to fund tort reform studies and to consider subsidizing high risk insurance pools does nothing concrete. The good parts of the GOP bills (IMHO) are already in the Baucus bill.

PrettyDVicious, look at the NBC/WSJ poll. They’ve asked questions listing a large number of the options you mentioned.

Karl–FYI–Patterico’s site is now down for some reason, in case you don’t already know.

Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 3:06 PM

It is interesting how desperately the lefties like Jimbo3 cling to these ridiculous slanted polls. Does anyone outside the Democrat-Media Complex really buy this crap anymore? Once again I just feel like all the usual tricks aren’t even denting me anymore. Not only do I not believe the poll, I no longer believe the people who did the poll believe it. Does ANYONE actually believe this spin anymore?

Dark Eden on September 24, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Every aspect of your rhetorical question is badly flawed: As an argument, it’s fundamentally biased and stupid.

Many or most of those who ‘disagree’ with what the Republicans have been doing DISAGREE WITH ANY COMPROMISE, OR WITH THE REPUBLICANS ‘NEGOTIATING’ ON HEALTH CARE, other than actions that the majority Party will kill: tort reform, for example.

With this reality in mind: There is no problem; nothing needs to be ‘fixed’; government action will only make things worse; the few actual ways of improving the situation ( like tort reform ) will be stopped dead by the Demo leadership in both Houses.

You make a lot of absurd, stupidly partisan, and “underwhelming” comments; this is just one more. Your opinions on the futility of tort reform are not explained, or worth explaining, and few people here care what you think.

Janos Hunyadi on September 24, 2009 at 3:47 PM

PrettyDVicious, look at the NBC/WSJ poll. They’ve asked questions listing a large number of the options you mentioned.
Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Those poll questions are the reason I refuse to participate when called. The questions are geared to elicit the desired answers out of the person being polled. I would like to see everybody that wants health insurance to be able to purchase health insurance, I just don’t want the government mandating that I participate in the government’s mandated plans. I also don’t want to be penalized because I don’t want to buy any health insurance. My choice, my responsibility, my bad if for some reason I need health insurance. Since I’m a responsible person, I accept my decision even unto death. Much like our military members who choose to enlist. They understand that their choice can cost them their life!

The poll mentioned tort reform, but did not mention interstate competition or a few others.

Furthermore, I work hard to maintain my health with a daily exercise regime. However, under the government plans, I would still pay the same amount for my insurance as that smoker, drinker, couch potato type person who depends upon the government and others to subsidize his inflated health care cost because of his chosen lifestyle. Same could be said of any promiscuous lifestyle person who chooses to participate in unprotected sex with multiple unknown partners.

We as individual make the decisions we make in life. I am responsible for those decisions I make for myself and my family. Government one payer health plan would force me to subsidize those individuals who have made bad choices in their respective lifestyle, therefore I would have less disposable income to purchase those things I want for my family and me.

PrettyD_Vicious on September 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM

You make a lot of absurd, stupidly partisan, and “underwhelming” comments; this is just one more. Your opinions on the futility of tort reform are not explained, or worth explaining, and few people here care what you think.

Then why are you bothering to write four paragraphs to respond, idiot?

And BTW, tort reform has not worked to lower overall healthcare costs in Texas in the last five years, although it did reduce malpractice premiums and increase the number of doctors in the state: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/columnists/jlanders/stories/DN-Landers_21bus.State.Edition1.9be351.html.

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Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 4:14 PM

I’m addressing my remarks to everyone else, genius. YOU are not worth talking to, as you’ve made clear.

Tort reform must be nationwide and will be a long process to undo decades of Accumulated Garbage. The Dallas newspaper is not a worthwhile source, but a leftoid troll like “Jimbo” would be clueless about that, too

Janos Hunyadi on September 24, 2009 at 4:28 PM

But… But…. But……
President Obama texted me PERSONALY that it’s okay to drink the kool aid!

LOL! leftist trolls…

Roy Rogers on September 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Janos Hunyadi

–Then you of course have studies that show that it has significantly reduced the end-cost to consumers in the states that have passed tort reform. Care to link to them?

Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM

“Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Every aspect of your rhetorical question is badly flawed: As an argument, it’s fundamentally biased and stupid.

Many or most of those who ‘disagree’ with what the Republicans have been doing DISAGREE WITH ANY COMPROMISE, OR WITH THE REPUBLICANS ‘NEGOTIATING’ ON HEALTH CARE, other than actions that the majority Party will kill: tort reform, for example.

With this reality in mind: There is no problem; nothing needs to be ‘fixed’; government action will only make things worse; the few actual ways of improving the situation ( like tort reform ) will be stopped dead by the Demo leadership in both Houses.

You make a lot of absurd, stupidly partisan, and “underwhelming” comments; this is just one more. Your opinions on the futility of tort reform are not explained, or worth explaining, and few people here care what you think.

Janos Hunyadi on September 24, 2009 at 3:47 PM”

I’m addressing my remarks to everyone else, genius. YOU are not worth talking to, as you’ve made clear……

Janos Hunyadi on September 24, 2009 at 4:28 PM”

–Janos, you are a filthy liar. Of course you were addressing your remarks to me. Look at your posts (I’ve emphasized the “you” and “yours”, etc.)

Jimbo3 on September 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM