Making Children Of Women
posted at 9:33 am on September 23, 2009 by Laura Curtis
[ Feminist Nonsense ]
We’ve come to this weird place in our history where women become babies instead of have them. It’s all about choices – but not about consequences. Rights, but not responsibilities. When a woman becomes pregnant, she can choose to kill the baby (or if you’re squeamish, terminate the pregnancy.) Repeatedly, in one case. Or she can choose to claim a goodly percentage of the man’s income for the next 18 years. Women have reproductive choices, men have obligations.
But she isn’t just free to have a baby or not have one. She can effectively become one. By choosing to drink excessively, she reverts back into a state of vulnerability where responsible people must care for her as they would a child. Once a woman has achieved this euphoric, unaccountable, childish condition, she’s powerfully protected by powerlessness. She can shed her inhibitions and indulge in any sexual fantasy she chooses without consequences. She can proclaim her powerlessness later and cry “Rape! Victim! Not responsible for my actions!” and victimize the faux-assailants who thought they lucked into one of those Penthouse letters. “I never thought this would happen to me, but…[insert sexual fantasy].” Now queue the Sam Kinison scream outro - “And then I was arrested for rape and won’t get out for another 16 years.”
Is it compassionate to protect these women after they’ve falsely accused someone? I suggest it’s more compassionate to make her take her lumps as publicly as the men have. That’s treating her like an adult, not a hothouse flower. Emily Bazelon says of the Hofstra fake-rape accuser “She’s only 18,“ and offers a shred of compassion by failing to name her. Eighteen is old enough to sign a contract, vote, join the military, marry, and go to prison, not juvie, if one commits a crime. Had she stuck to her charges and one of her “assailants” been 17, he would have been charged as an adult.
If a young woman is less lucky, in her drunken-victim condition she may encounter someone who will deliberately harm and possibly kill her. Here is a victim who was ‘guilty’ – ‘of being 24′. Now her family and friends are left to defend her with this weak tea: “the world has got to know that 24-year-olds drink. Sometimes a lot. But no one deserves to be murdered.” Well, that’s true, no one deserves to be murdered. It’s a awful story and I’m saddened by it. But will declaring that the world has got to know that drunk people don’t deserve to be murdered do anything to keep them safe? It’s an invitation. If I were a criminal, I’d be looking for you, drunk co-ed.
We need to stop infantilizing these women. We need to stop pretending there’s no connection between their behavior and any crimes committed against them, or by them. “It’s not your fault!” we reassure. And to some extent we’re telling the truth because fault does belong to the criminal when a crime has been committed. But it’s not the whole truth, and it endorses circumstances where women will be victimized. It doesn’t “empower” anyone to declare our right to be publicly intoxicated to the point of helpless dependence. No one deserves to be murdered or raped. But that fact does not overcome the reality that people are murdered and raped every day, and that criminals normally choose victims who are easy marks. It is unkind to tell that to a crime victim after the fact. But it is cruel not to teach it to young women before the fact.
How about this declaration? Young women have got to know that when you get fall down drunk, you may make stupid choices for which you should still be held responsible, just as a drunk driver would rightly be held responsible for events occurring after he chose to get drunk and do stupid, dangerous things.
You want freedom, choice, and rights? Then earn them by taking responsibility for yourselves.
UPDATED: Some interesting links on false accusations and lying in divorce court here.









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Wonderful article. About time this started to be said outside of men’s forums.
As long as we keep infantilizing people due to color, gender, religion etc – expect this rights w/out responsibility attitude.
Steven
LSBeene on September 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been saying this for years, but I really appreciate your take. I am so sick of these young women. I was raped when I was 17. Why? Because I was stupid. I got in a car with 2 guys from school, got rip roaring drunk. I hold responsibility for my sheer stupidity. I didnt deserve to be raped, but I sure put myself in that position, now didnt I?
di butler on September 23, 2009 at 11:46 AM
This is very true. It’s the same ‘I’m helpless’ argument that young single mothers use to justify having several children. These never grow up either.
jeanie on September 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Hear hear!
Women now are apparently supposed to either act like men (get a career, don’t have kids or don’t raise them yourself if you do, don’t be pretty or wear skirts or high heels, or you will be called “Caribou Barbie”) or like little girls who have no responsibility for their actions. What happened to being a WOMAN???
rockmom on September 23, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Long overdue and my thanks to Laura. Growing up and being an adult in decision making does not make young women unattractive. Just the opposite. There is nothing more attractive than a responsible smart woman, other than a responsible smart man.
24K lady on September 23, 2009 at 12:41 PM
The conclusion is obvious.
Women should not be allowed to drink alcohol.
malclave on September 23, 2009 at 2:01 PM
LOL, or men could be given chemical castration medication until marriage. That would work even better… solve that whole pesky illegitimate children issue that clogs up our welfare system, too.
Thanks for the kind words, y’all, and Di, especially thanks for your comment. I tried to be careful how I wrote this but I was still worried I was coming across as blaming rape victims. I don’t.
Laura on September 23, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Government healthcare? Besides, this wouldn’t solve the problem of men acting like idiots after marriage.
malclave on September 23, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Excuse me, but as a man and father in my 50s, I’ve got to tell you all as the father of two daughters that are in their 20s I do understand what you are saying, but please remember, men are scum. Treat every one of them as a predator.
Of course you should never let yourself get into bad positions, but how many women have been slipped a “Mickey” in the last 100 or better years they’ve been around?
I know they call it by other names now, like date rape drugs, etc. and they are for real.
The REAL ;problem seems to be the fact that so many of these women arwe horrible judges of character. They’re easily schmoozed, (in a way like they were for Clinton & Obama) so yes, you can put some of the blame on women, but most often the blame is squarely on the predator.
Jeff from WI on September 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Jeff, I heartily disagree with you that men are scum and should be treated as predators. Certainly some men are; likewise some women are equally bad.
Date rape drugs are an entirely different matter; I purposely did not address that issue because I specifically wanted to address the phenomenon of young women willfully getting drunk out of their minds and making themselves vulnerable – whether to their own bad judgment or to a predator. That’s entirely voluntary and they need to be told to smarten up. The blame for committing the crime is on the criminal – but women should take responsibility not to be vulnerable and easily preyed on.
As to women being horrible judges of character… I think no more than men are. I know several men taken in by predatory, manipulative, frankly evil women who use the children as weapons in divorce proceedings.
Laura on September 23, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I’m giving this article to my granddaughter (13) to read. It will definitely add to her knowledge. If she starts learning now she won’t fall into the trap. Most young men aren’t predators, at least the ones I know. Young women need to understand actions have consequences and at 18 they sure are no longer babies. When they cry rape, when it isn’t, they hurt the ones who really have been raped. It’s hard enough to prove rape in court unless you have been beaten half to death, are wearing a nun’s habit, and are lying in a ditch.
elclynn on September 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM
You’ll have to excuse me. I was brought up in a different era when REAL men acted as a gentleman, and women were somewhat considered the fairer sex, and elevated in stature a bit. I guess today’s “everyone is equal” is OK for women if they really want that. I will have to say I don’t quite understand where this “equality” has worked out so well for women. I guess I just miss women.
Jeff from WI on September 23, 2009 at 5:49 PM
In any event, Laura, I saw this posted on a men’s forum and everyone there thinks you’re great to have finally said this on a mainstream forum.
It’s not just gender, but a general lack of accountability using ANY attribute – race, religion, gender, sexual orientation etc.
We’ve embraced a false sense of “self-esteem” by telling kids “you’re special”, instead of letting them accomplish things (and sometimes fail) to build REAL self-esteem.
Also, with the feminist laws and patronizing gov’t stepping in as “daddy” and single mom households (not blaming – just pointing out) – those moms have to work. And guess what becomes “mommy and daddy” – our “cater to your sense of self” televisions.
Moral relativism versus moral absolutes are taught to our kids.
And, for girls – you end up with what you brought up Laura: single moms raising children who never really grow up into adults.
Think about it – it’s only been in the last 100 years or so (really about 60 years) that the concept of “extended childhood” of the teenager has been around. Back in the day, those kids were in school or working. All this leisure time, money, no REAL discipline in schools etc.
Our teens are not forced to grow up until their formative years have passed, are not really disciplined, and given no real moral compass – and we’re suprised?
Steven
LSBeene on September 23, 2009 at 6:38 PM