Guilt By Association

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This morning, Ed posted some excerpts from a book called Speechless: Tales of a White House Survivor, by former Bush staffer Matt Latimer. The book includes comments from Bush which, to put it mildly, make it clear he doesn’t consider himself part of any “conservative movement.” Most conservatives would agree. Bush’s comments highlight one of the problems facing everyone crammed into the clown cars of our two-party system: we’re all considered guilty by association of things we disagree with, and people we don’t fully support.

As a registered Republican, I’m a member of the same party as Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, Olympia Snowe, and John McCain. If the reader is a Democrat, you belong to the same party as Andrew Jackson, John F. Kennedy, Charles Rangel, and Michael Dukakis. There’s a lot of ground separating the beliefs of those people. Even if you stick to purely contemporary figures, there are vast differences between them, and distinctly hostile factions within each party.

Thanks to the immense size and complexity of the modern State, it’s difficult to imagine any single candidate that could embrace all of the positions held by all the voters in his or her party. Every election is a necessary compromise of values, as voters must size up a candidate’s platform and decide which heresies they can live with. This is especially true of presidential candidates, who find themselves campaigning through primaries thundering with passion for a variety of issues, then facing a general electorate divided on some binary conflicts that cannot be finessed. Of course, they always try to finesse them anyway… and suddenly we’re all looking for coded messages of what really lurks in their hearts, a game that grew tedious before we broke up with our first high-school sweethearts.

Naturally, each side of the political struggle likes to associate all of its opponents with their most objectionable representatives. When it comes to politicians, this is not entirely unreasonable. If you were profoundly disturbed by the misadventures of Mark Foley in 2006, or Charles Rangel today, the best way to punish them is to vote against their party. In fact, voting their party out of power is virtually a pre-requisite for any sort of meaningful justice. You can’t expect any intense probes of a party that holds both houses of Congress.

The two-party system probably isn’t going anywhere, although one of the parties could radically change in character, or give birth to a truly viable third party, which eventually devours it. There is too much power to be gained from unity of purpose, and for all the factional squabbling and single-issue jousting matches, the division between the parties has become increasingly clear… at least to everyone except the more clueless Republican politicians. The past nine months have fast-forwarded us to a point we would otherwise have reached in ten or twenty years, when the old game of saddling free-market taxpayers with the bill for socialist programs could no longer be played. Before we can move any further to the Left, the essential character of our nation must be forever changed. In a process that began with TARP bailouts and auto-company takeovers, and is meant to continue through the destruction of the health insurance industry, those markets will no longer be “free” in even a rhetorical sense. To grow any larger, the government requires serfs, not sugar daddies.

The choice now is between liberty and tyranny. It always was, but like a used car, tyranny can be made to sound like an attractive purchase: loaded with good intentions, and financed with no money down and low, low payments. That deal is no longer on the table, and never will be again. The restlessness of the Blue Dog Democrats is the queasiness of people who aren’t sure they stand on the right side of the battle lines, when the morning fog melts away and lances are lowered.

There certainly are some rascals, crooks, and wimps associated with the Republican Party… but when I look at the other side, I see Michael Moore sitting beside Jimmy Carter at the 2004 Democrat convention. I see Ted Kennedy receiving an obscenely improper hero’s funereal. I see Barney Frank slobbering over all the money he can’t wait to suck out of the private sector. I see a party insisting that anything less than blind obedience to Barack Obama is racism. I see a Truther in the White House, and an Attorney General who wants to cripple U.S. Intelligence with show trials. The morning breeze flutters across their lines, and raises the banners of ACORN and the SEIU. Instead of a fife and drum, I hear someone declaring 9/11 to be a national day of community service. I hear none of these things renounced, so I hold their party guilty for all of them, and know my place is on the other side.

I hope the Republicans can dazzle me in 2010 and 2012. I don’t expect candidates who agree with all my beliefs, but I would like to vote with enthusiasm for a change… instead of settling for agreement by association, with people who aren’t even on the ballot.

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Exactly!

juanito on September 16, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Two ways to fix this.

1. Run off elections. Otherwise if a third voice is strong all it succeeds in doing is splitting either the conservative or liberal vote leaving the least wanted to win. This is in the interest of both ideologies.

2. Nation wide primary election. Still holding on to state by state votes but all on one day. No more of this having a candidate picked before half of the country ever gets to vote.

- The Cat

P.S. Staying home and not voting is not an option. It’s a boycott and boycotts rarely if ever work; especially with elections because the message that is sent to politicians is never received let alone understood.

MirCat on September 16, 2009 at 1:12 AM

Bingo! My thoughts exactly.

ncborn on September 16, 2009 at 1:32 AM

Excellent diagnosis, Doctor.

What do you think about term limits?

publiuspen on September 16, 2009 at 7:05 AM

Excellent diagnosis, Doctor.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.

What do you think about term limits?

publiuspen on September 16, 2009 at 7:05 AM

I’d especially like to see term limits on the Presidency. The end of the first four year term is usually wasted, sometimes a year and a half’s worth, as the sitting President gears up a campaign for reelection. Then the final year in office of the second four year term is wasted as the President becomes a ‘lame duck’.

So I’d very much like to see the President’s term of office limited to one single term lasting six years. That’s enough time to get it in gear, institute changes and enact meaningful legislation in conjunction with Congress, and see how it all plays out with time left still to fine tune things if not working according to plan.

After those six years, the American people are usually tired of whatever that President has wrought and are ready for a change. And the outgoing President is then free to earn his bazillion dollars on the speaking circuit.

But if we get a bad President, one who is destroying the economy, or waging too many wars, or is abusing his office in other ways, then six years is a long time to wait to get rid of that abusive President, so we’d have to have provisions for replacing such a President sooner if absolutely necessary.

KendraWilder on September 16, 2009 at 7:35 AM

What do you think about term limits?

publiuspen on September 16, 2009 at 7:05 AM

I think Congressional term limits are an important reform, although there are cautions to be taken… and, like everything else related to our huge government, I’m sure they will have at least one ramification that nobody can predict in advance. To me, the gains from term limits far outweigh the drawbacks.

I’d especially like to see term limits on the Presidency. The end of the first four year term is usually wasted, sometimes a year and a half’s worth, as the sitting President gears up a campaign for reelection. Then the final year in office of the second four year term is wasted as the President becomes a ‘lame duck’.

KendraWilder on September 16, 2009 at 7:35 AM

That’s a very interesting point about presidential terms. I’ve often thought of the current presidential term limit as one of the few checks on central power to survive the 20th century. The rather dismal experience of second presidential terms adds a lot of weight to your argument. It seems like we would benefit from a chief executive who didn’t have to deal with the political distractions of getting re-elected, but was also carefully constrained in what steps he could take in office, serving under a system that could remove him for abuse of power.

I think a term-limited Congress would tend to police presidential behavior through the urgent need to defend large numbers of seats – Obama’s suggestion that his party follow him over a cliff to ram nationalized health care through the system would sound even less appealing to a party defending a larger number of seats in every election.

Doctor Zero on September 16, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Let me offer a thought from a decidedly minority point of view: the problem is not that our politics suffers from too little democracy but, rather, from too much. Particularly that strain of democracy called Populism.

From the beginning of the Republic it was planned that the lower house, the Congress would be popularly elected to best reflect the passions of the day. Up until the eve of the First World War, the State Legislatures selected the Senators. The point was that the appointed Senators would act as a brake on the unrestrained enthusiasms of the elected congressmen.

With the passage of the 17th Amendment, however, BOTH houses of Congress are popularly elected. Now the senate, rather than dampening the passions of the House, is an more of an amplifier of the mob’s manias.

Similarly, it’s hard to see where the system of Primaries has done anything to improve on a scheme where the people who live and breath party politics elbow and claw their way to the choice of a standard bearer that best reflects the Party’s political philosophy leaving the electorate – who, as a general rule, pays no attention to these matters between election cycles – to choose between the candidates. Is Super Tuesday really a substitute for a bare-knuckles floor fight at the Party Convention?

Like may who read this blog I share the fear that we are losing our republic. But rather than inject more populism, my take is that we need to get the States – the Governors and the Legislatures – to reassert their primacy over the National Government. Wouldn’t it be easier and more effective for the citizens of a state to change their Senator by giving control of their state legislature to the other party than trying to use the blunt instrument of term limits?

And wouldn’t dispersing political power across 50 states rather than in one central location in Washington D.C. counterbalance the influence of special-interest money?

Just a thought.

potkas7 on September 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I see a party insisting that anything less than blind obedience to Barack Obama is racism

The Race Card is the most rapid-fire all purpose ad hominem vapid weapon of smear, mass deception and diversion ever conceived by man. It is a weapon under which weak minds are servilely crouched and can be fired with the greatest of ease by even the most intellectually and morally challenged, and in fact, was designed especially for use by them. It is void of justice. It is void of liberty. It has no rationality. It has little rhyme. It has no expiration date. It doesn’t even appear to have a half life. There are those who theorize that it may continue to exist indefinitely in some form even after time itself has come to an end.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Before we can move any further to the Left, the essential character of our nation must be forever changed.

Which is exactly what Dear Leader wants to do. Aided & abetted by a corrupt Congressional leadership.

Another fine column, Dr. 0.

rbj on September 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Doctor Zero – great points. I wrote a little about some of what you talk about at
http://www.avoteforourfounders.blogspot.com/. Go to the Back to Our Foundation post.

truetexan on September 16, 2009 at 2:43 PM

KendraWilder on September 16, 2009 at 7:35 AM

Modern example,..Honduras. A one term presidency is in their constitution and we all saw what happens when the sitting pres tries to change it.

a capella on September 16, 2009 at 2:44 PM

As much as I despise many of the things McCain has done, that’s why I voted for him last year. It’s also why I begged many other “conservatives” to hold their noses and vote for him as well.

MarkTheGreat on September 16, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Excellent diagnosis, Doctor.
What do you think about term limits?
publiuspen on September 16, 2009 at 7:05 AM

I hope no one is reading Vince Flynn’s old book, Term Limits. Great book, but I fear it being carried out today.

barnone on September 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM

We will always have the power to impose term limits, it’s just harder then going with the status quo.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM

potkas7 on September 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM

This would also get people to pay attention to their state and local politicians. I find this to be severely lacking, even in myself, which is dangerous because these politicians seem to have a more direct effect on daily life.

ConDem on September 16, 2009 at 2:49 PM

KendraWilder on September 16, 2009 at 7:35 AM

I think it is important that the term of the president stay out of sync with the terms of the senators. If the president had a six year term, 1/3rd of the senators would always be elected during a presidential year, and 2/3rds would never be elected during a presidential year.

MarkTheGreat on September 16, 2009 at 2:50 PM

The choice now is between liberty and tyranny.

I thought the choice would never become this clear in my lifetime. Seems that liberty is a fragile thing.

petefrt on September 16, 2009 at 2:50 PM

We will always have the power to impose term limits, it’s just harder then going with the status quo.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Theoretically yes, practically no.

True power in Washington these days comes from seniority. This is why many corrupt politicians are returned year after year.

Voting out your politician is a form of unilateral disarmement. Your taxes continue to go up, but all the political goodies go to someone else’s state or district.

Unless there is some mechanism to force everyone to disarm (term limits), no one will disarm.

MarkTheGreat on September 16, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Candidates that want to get elected need to campaign on one thing – Ending the deep, deep corruption in politics. Sarah Palin could do that.

kirkill on September 16, 2009 at 3:02 PM

Excellent write up. Very accurate.

jediwebdude on September 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM

“I hear none of these things renounced, so I hold their party guilty for all of them, and know my place is on the other side.”

This is the problem with the get Obama (though he deserves to be removed from office) Marxists always have lines -the longest of which is for who is next to run…er sorry mispelled it..ruin the country.

They all are part of the same team and all support what’s destructive of our nation. No major battles break out resisting the takeover and reforming of our nation by any group on the left and sadly, few on the right seem to be willing to be on the lead horse in opposing them. Watch the GOP when Obama falls, suddenly get bravery and come out of their hiding places and act like the German people when the wall came down.

Don L on September 16, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Nearly all of the Founding Fathers believed that citizens should be educated in three areas; that required for daily life and commerce, government and moral values. Over the last 40 years or so, that “expected” education has been destroyed.

CC

CapedConservative on September 16, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Doc, I don’t know your true occupation, but your writing is pure genius.

THANK YOU

tim c on September 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM

It’s also why I begged many other “conservatives” to hold their noses and vote for him as well.

MarkTheGreat on September 16, 2009

I did that. The stench follows you. Never again. No more RINO’s, no more CINO’s, no more wishy-washy Dem-lites, No more lesser of two evils. It’s time for the party to reform and toe the line; not for me to cave in and go along with whatever backstabbing stooge decides it’s “his turn”.
If my conservative, small-government, constitution-loving candidate loses, OK. I’ll cope because I have to. But I don’t have to vote for some half-baked, half-conservative half-wit candidate for the “good of the country” because, really, what good will ultimately come from it? It will delay the next Obama by a few years but they are bound to follow as Obama followed Bush and there we are again. A poor choice is no choice at all and not good enough for this country. Call me what you will but I’ll not bend to mediocrity again.

SKYFOX on September 16, 2009 at 3:24 PM

The sad reality of term limits: doesn’t apply to vulture lobbiests, preying on each fresh crop of legislators.

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CaveatEmpty on September 16, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Doc, you truly have a gift, and I’m so glad that you are willing to share it with us.

Language is an unwieldy instrument and for many of us, often failing to illustrate our thoughts concisely and clearly. Yet time and again I read your posts and just find myself thinking, “Yes! Exactly!”

Thank you.

VelvetElvis on September 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM

We will always have the power to impose term limits, it’s just harder then going with the status quo.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Theoretically yes, practically no.

True power in Washington these days comes from seniority. This is why many corrupt politicians are returned year after year.

Voting out your politician is a form of unilateral disarmement. Your taxes continue to go up, but all the political goodies go to someone else’s state or district.

Unless there is some mechanism to force everyone to disarm (term limits), no one will disarm.

MarkTheGreat on September 16, 2009 at 2:54 PM

You make a good point. I would suggest that State legislatures and Congress be encouraged to pass law that would prohibit the Federal government from collecting tax monies for the purpose of returning money to the States. If the States need money, the States should collect those taxes from their own residents.

When the Federal Government takes money from you and me and gives it back to States, several things happen:
1) The States are beholden to the Federal Government, instead of to the people who are the actual source of the money, but who have no control over how much money is collected or how it is spent.
2) As stated above, this enables the Federal Government to “redistribute” wealth from one State to another.
3)There is inherent inefficiency. When the Federal Government takes money from the people of the several States and then returns it to the States, they always keep part of it (and that part is more than if the individual States both collected and disbursed the monies).

Reducing the power of the Federal Government back to its Constitutionally intended size would reduce the amount and incentive for corruption in Washington. It would increase the incentive for corruption at the State level, but because it is closer to the people, it would be easier to monitor, if the people remain vigilant.

This approach would also allow predominantly liberal or conservative States to reflect those values and allow all Americans to feel that they have a place in America (even if some felt the need to move to another State). In our current situation (if all Obama’s agenda were to pass), Conservatives are feeling that we moving toward finding ourselves without a country where we truly have a place.

Ordinary American on September 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Your taxes continue to go up, but all the political goodies go to someone else’s state or district.
MarkTheGreat on September 16, 2009 at 2:54 PM

I always wondered why the taxes collected within a state for that state had to go to the Govt for distribution back to said state! That is somthing that needs addressing, it has become way too politicized, with “terms” attached to the state getting it’s money back, I think it should stay in state. Just MHO…..

Onward Forward and Upward!!

RoxanneH on September 16, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Just read your comment Ordinary American…..I agree fully with your comment, did not mean usurp it :-)

I would suggest that State legislatures and Congress be encouraged to pass law that would prohibit the Federal government from collecting tax monies for the purpose of returning money to the States. If the States need money, the States should collect those taxes from their own residents.Ordinary American on September 16, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Onward Forward and Upward!!

And thanks again Dr Zero for your, “yes exactly!” writings.

RoxanneH on September 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM

“There certainly are some rascals, crooks, and wimps associated with the Republican Party… but when I look at the other side, I see Michael Moore sitting beside Jimmy Carter at the 2004 Democrat convention. I see Ted Kennedy receiving an obscenely improper hero’s funereal. I see Barney Frank slobbering over all the money he can’t wait to suck out of the private sector. I see a party insisting that anything less than blind obedience to Barack Obama is racism. I see a Truther in the White House, and an Attorney General who wants to cripple U.S. Intelligence with show trials. The morning breeze flutters across their lines, and raises the banners of ACORN and the SEIU. Instead of a fife and drum, I hear someone declaring 9/11 to be a national day of community service. I hear none of these things renounced, so I hold their party guilty for all of them, and know my place is on the other side.

I hope the Republicans can dazzle me in 2010 and 2012. I don’t expect candidates who agree with all my beliefs, but I would like to vote with enthusiasm for a change… instead of settling for agreement by association, with people who aren’t even on the ballot.”

Thank you for expressing what many of us think…

lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 4:09 PM

I think Congressional term limits are an important reform, although there are cautions to be taken…

Thanks for your response, Doctor. My education continues.

publiuspen on September 16, 2009 at 4:10 PM

I see Barney Frank slobbering over all the money he can’t wait to suck out of the private sector.

Homophobe.

/LLL

The Monster on September 16, 2009 at 4:17 PM

“… I see Michael Moore sitting beside Jimmy Carter at the 2004 Democrat convention. I see Ted Kennedy receiving an obscenely improper hero’s funereal. I see Barney Frank slobbering over all the money he can’t wait to suck out of the private sector…”

That single paragraph exposes the Democrats as the vile creatures that they truly are…

… Once again, tip of the old hat to Doc Zero.

Seven Percent Solution on September 16, 2009 at 4:47 PM

…I would like to vote with enthusiasm for a change…

That would be wonderful. I have been voting for over fifty years. I voted with enthusiasm for president a total of three times (Goldwater once and Reagan twice).

burt on September 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Excellently scribed, Doc Z, but I could’ve done without this…

I see Barney Frank slobbering over all the money he can’t wait to suck out of the private sector.

Yet an apt description, nonetheless.

TXUS on September 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Doctor Zero on September 16, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Great article, Doc. What do you think of direct telection of Senators versus the original structure of the Constitution where they were elected by State legislatures?

Red State State of Mind on September 16, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I always wondered why the taxes collected within a state for that state had to go to the Govt for distribution back to said state! That is somthing that needs addressing, it has become way too politicized, with “terms” attached to the state getting it’s money back, I think it should stay in state. Just MHO…..

Onward Forward and Upward!!

RoxanneH on September 16, 2009 at 4:00 PM

You bring up an excellent point…Along those lines, my suggestion is to have Congress only tax for the funds necessary to perform their actual, enumerated duties. Then, the states would tax for what their state constitutions enumerated them to do. That would require local counties and cities to tax for the balance, and return power to the people locally. It’s much easier to get answers and results on a local level.
Imagine if your total tax burden did not change, but the slice given to the Federal Government decreased substantially and your local or state government taxed more to take care of needs in their jurisdictions. You’d immediately see more accountability, and ultimately, lower taxes.
If liberal town, counties and states wanted high taxes, they would be able to do so, but not forcing the rest of us to ante up for their programs and policies.

Red State State of Mind on September 16, 2009 at 6:15 PM