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		<title>By: Dafydd ab Hugh</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/09/10/did-obama-move-the-meter/comment-page-1/#comment-30688</link>
		<dc:creator>Dafydd ab Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Browncoatone:&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#039;s not an exact quotation, but he said it often enough.  I&#039;ll give you a hint:  His first name rhymes with &quot;finito.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Browncoatone:</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not an exact quotation, but he said it often enough.  I&#8217;ll give you a hint:  His first name rhymes with &#8220;finito.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dafydd</p>
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		<title>By: Browncoatone</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/09/10/did-obama-move-the-meter/comment-page-1/#comment-30439</link>
		<dc:creator>Browncoatone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Search-Fu has failed me. Who said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;no more debate, we need action, action, action!&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Search-Fu has failed me. Who said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;no more debate, we need action, action, action!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mr Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Contrariwise, it is always possible to decrease the number who support you, by saying something stupid that alienates your base. I don’t believe Obama did so, so don’t look for the speech to turn more people against ObamaCare.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I disagree Dafydd; Obama may have not alienated his base, but he has been alienating the undecideds.  He may have lost them completely last night.  You see, a lot of Seniors who were at the Town Meetings were really put off when the Democrats described protesters and the protests as &quot;Nazis&quot; or using &quot;Nazi like tactics&quot;.   Many of these Seniors actually lived and fought through WWII.  These Swing Voters were shocked at being called Nazi; and they did NOT appreciate it.  Sure, use that term on the Far Right and they just shrug it off, but now it&#039;s personal. (NOTE:  This is based on anecdotal evidence:  My own ears.  I&#039;ve not seen any polling on the matter, but would love to.)  

Maybe they really liked Obama though, and hoped that he was talking about someone else... the OTHER guy at the protest, the OTHER protest, even.

Then last night the President made blanket condemnations, and accused anybody who questioned the plans introduced in Congress as people &#039;playing games&#039;.  The defense of the economy from attack by people who don&#039;t understand the difference between overhead and profit is not a &#039;game&#039;.  The questioning of a Thousand page bill that could not get read before a vote is not a &#039;game&#039;.  Ensuring that your Medicare Coverage doesn&#039;t disappear in order to pay for some Teenager&#039;s colonoscopy isn&#039;t a &#039;game&#039;.

What an insult.

No, I think the swing voters in the middle, the folks who weren&#039;t enthusiastic about the plans but weren&#039;t looking to throw the whole thing out... I think they heard what the President was calling them, and I think they&#039;ll harden their opinions to be more strongly against any Health Care Plan.  Don&#039;t look for a bounce in the polls... watch for a loss of the middle, and maybe even a dip.</description>
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<p>I disagree Dafydd; Obama may have not alienated his base, but he has been alienating the undecideds.  He may have lost them completely last night.  You see, a lot of Seniors who were at the Town Meetings were really put off when the Democrats described protesters and the protests as &#8220;Nazis&#8221; or using &#8220;Nazi like tactics&#8221;.   Many of these Seniors actually lived and fought through WWII.  These Swing Voters were shocked at being called Nazi; and they did NOT appreciate it.  Sure, use that term on the Far Right and they just shrug it off, but now it&#8217;s personal. (NOTE:  This is based on anecdotal evidence:  My own ears.  I&#8217;ve not seen any polling on the matter, but would love to.)  </p>
<p>Maybe they really liked Obama though, and hoped that he was talking about someone else&#8230; the OTHER guy at the protest, the OTHER protest, even.</p>
<p>Then last night the President made blanket condemnations, and accused anybody who questioned the plans introduced in Congress as people &#8216;playing games&#8217;.  The defense of the economy from attack by people who don&#8217;t understand the difference between overhead and profit is not a &#8216;game&#8217;.  The questioning of a Thousand page bill that could not get read before a vote is not a &#8216;game&#8217;.  Ensuring that your Medicare Coverage doesn&#8217;t disappear in order to pay for some Teenager&#8217;s colonoscopy isn&#8217;t a &#8216;game&#8217;.</p>
<p>What an insult.</p>
<p>No, I think the swing voters in the middle, the folks who weren&#8217;t enthusiastic about the plans but weren&#8217;t looking to throw the whole thing out&#8230; I think they heard what the President was calling them, and I think they&#8217;ll harden their opinions to be more strongly against any Health Care Plan.  Don&#8217;t look for a bounce in the polls&#8230; watch for a loss of the middle, and maybe even a dip.</p>
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		<title>By: Did Obama Move the Meter? &#124; America Watches Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Did Obama Move the Meter? &#124; America Watches Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Skandia Recluse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skandia Recluse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s audience was the democrats in Congress. Polling anyone else is misdirection. This speech was all about pressuring recalcitrant democrats, and it was a clear message to the republicans that Obama doesn&#039;t need them, doesn&#039;t care what they have to say or offer as he intends to govern without them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s audience was the democrats in Congress. Polling anyone else is misdirection. This speech was all about pressuring recalcitrant democrats, and it was a clear message to the republicans that Obama doesn&#8217;t need them, doesn&#8217;t care what they have to say or offer as he intends to govern without them.</p>
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		<title>By: AUINSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AUINSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it count if I opposed his plan even more vehemently that before he gave that speech?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it count if I opposed his plan even more vehemently that before he gave that speech?</p>
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