The Ethics of Ferocity

posted at 3:56 pm on August 25, 2009 by

The Obama Administration, aware that everyone outside of union bosses, and interest groups looking for billion-dollar ribeye steaks of taxpayer money, is having trouble remembering why they voted for Obama, has decided to drag CIA interrogators and Bush Administration officials into court, where they will be persecuted for their role in defending America from terrorist attacks. Apparently Obama and his accomplices decided to distract their liberal base from the fiery Hindenburg crash of socialized medicine, by offering them a relaxing cruise on the Titanic of leftist foreign policy. As with everything else the current Administration does, it’s a remarkably foolish move: dangerous for America, and self-destructive as a strategy.

I don’t have much patience or understanding for people who play games with national security for political benefit, so let me dismiss the political strategy of this outrage by saying it once again demonstrates the danger of believing your own political spin, and taking the lovestruck panting of a sycophantic media seriously. Real Americans are not anxious to punish the people who shut down al-Qaeda’s domestic operations. While liberals wave the Justice Department’s report on CIA interrogation techniques at the rest of the world and tearfully beg them for forgiveness, the rest of us are wondering why we don’t reduce the deficit by selling the rights to these interrogations on pay-per-view. The contestants on your average Japanese game show go through more intense ordeals.

Obama should understand that he was elected in spite of his childish posturing as a messiah and redeemer, not because of them. A weary public allowed itself to be badgered into electing the first black president, after they ran out of patience waiting for John McCain to explain why they shouldn’t. Normal people don’t define their relationship with the government by taking pleasure in the humiliation of political figures they dislike. We’re six months past the point where American voters can be kept quiet by suffocating them with the pillow of Bush hatred. We’re about a month past the point where anyone capable of independent thought believes Obama is a better president than Bush was.

Political strategy aside, America needs to resolve its argument about the morality of self-defense, and quickly. It’s my contention that a peaceful democracy has a moral imperative to demonstrate ferocity in defense.

Because we are not an aggressive, conquering nation, we don’t seek to subjugate the world and eliminate opposition. This means we will always be playing defense. One of the most dangerous delusions of the Left is the idea that we might be able to create a civilization that has no enemies. Civilization always has its enemies. Liberals should understand that, since they draw their own political strength from the unhappy remnant that always feels cheated by free-market capitalism, no matter how prosperous it might become. Even the most peaceful and compassionate nation will always be at risk from savages who wish to drown it in blood.

Anyone who has studied any form of self-defense knows the danger of hesitation. Effective defense requires swift and decisive action. When a fist is flying at your face, you don’t have time to flip through your mental catalog of Jet Li movies and pick a cool counter-move. Hesitation can defeat even superior strength and technical skill. The most powerful weapon in the world is useless as long as it remains in its holster… and it provides no deterrence value if your assailant knows it will remain there.

To suggest that enduring six months of Obama has made the CIA more hesitant to conduct effective intelligence operations is an understatement. Democrat political double-dealing is a crime that strikes at the heart of our venerated belief in civilian command of the military. We respect this arrangement, in part, because we believe it is proper for the civilian government to exhaust all peaceful, diplomatic avenues before we commit to war. You don’t send Marine recon units to conduct subtle diplomacy. The Bush Administration did its duty in this regard – for all the liberal caterwauling about “Bush’s rush to war,” it took a hell of a lot longer than Barack Obama’s rush to nationalize the health insurance industry and triple the deficit.

The other side of this arrangement must also be honored: we must allow the military to act with decisive speed, working within clearly defined rules of engagement. The military requires, and deserves, the assurance that they will not be used as political pawns by the civilian authorities. This is the duty a peaceful nation owes to the men and women who risk their lives, and make countless personal sacrifices, to ensure our safety. It is also logical, because the safety of American civilians, along with the hope for minimal collateral damage to foreign populations, depends on giving our defenders the confidence to take swift and decisive action. We know from experience that modern America does not have the political and cultural endurance to fight protracted wars – and, frankly, protracted wars stink. If war is forced upon us, it’s better for everyone involved if we make quick work of the enemy.

The Left has demonstrated a willing eagerness to sap American endurance in times of war, again and again. The antiwar movement is a fusion of many agendas, including domestic political hatred of the sitting President, and outright sympathy with the enemy. There is little that can be said to these elements of the Left… but to those who sincerely oppose extended military action on humanitarian grounds, I would say it is deeply immoral to apply political sanctions and legal penalties to the very people who have the best chance of ending a war quickly, or preventing enemy attacks from claiming innocent lives. Nothing will prompt a determined enemy to attack faster than the belief his target is paralyzed with uncertainty. Nothing will break the will of a terrorist organization faster than capturing or killing its command structure, and that requires timely intelligence. There is exactly one way to obtain that intelligence, and you can read all about it, in the Justice Department report on CIA interrogations. The options to wish determined enemies away, hug them into submission, or instantly penetrate their command structure with double-oh super-spies are not on the table. The option of surrender is underneath the table, and a few hundred million patriotic Americans will stomp on your damned fingers, if you try reaching for it.

If a group of people took your family hostage, and one of their associates fell into your hands, you would do anything to extract the location of your family from him. So would Barack Obama, and Eric Holder, and every Democrat who ever sullied the halls of Congress by referring to American soldiers as Nazis. President Obama would not dither about the finer points of a criminal’s hypothetical “rights” while the man’s accomplices were taking power tools to Michelle and the kids. Anyone who would is a lunatic… and I don’t want to leave the security of our country in the hands of lunatics. The moral justification for relying on professional military and law-enforcement personnel is the understanding that their training will allow them to do all the terrible things we would do to protect our family, more dispassionately, carefully, and efficiently than we could. Double-crossing them for political gain is using the families of other people as poker chips, in the smug certainty your own loved ones are in no immediate danger. If we don’t let the professionals do their jobs against a relentless enemy now, then one day, we will all be soldiers.

A few weeks ago, Eric Holder saw nothing wrong with Black Panthers using billy clubs to intimidate voters. Today, he thinks intimidating terrorists with cigars is a crime. Holder is the one who should be answering tough questions under oath.

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The contestants on your average Japanese game show go through more intense ordeals.

I love that line.

Daggett on August 25, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Excellent post, as usual, DZ.

Ex-Dem on August 25, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Again, a very fine piece, Doc.

It may seem simplistic, or too John Wayne, but I think my personal position on self-defense is the model for our national self-defense.

I would kill, without hesitation (I hope), anyone who threatened my family.

If someone conveyed a credible threat that they would kill me, they are DRT (dead, right there). I might pick the time and place, but they will not. Preemptive action is only logical, and only economical.

If I have a right to kill somebody (morally, ethically…legally be damned), I have a right to do a lot to them short of taking their life if it is necessary to preserve an innocent.

Somehow, I have managed to project those values to others. They have seen the wisdom of not acting in a manner to me or mine that would get them hurt or killed. I think that was only fair for me to do, and not a bad pattern for living.

Ragspierre on August 25, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Spot on Dr. Z, spot on…It brings to mind Orwell’s quote: “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”

mikeymike on August 25, 2009 at 4:41 PM

We’re about a month past the point where anyone capable of independent thought believes Obama is a better president than Bush was.

Unfortunatley, we have a lot of people that can’t think for themselves, they look to the MSM or celebrities to tell them who to like and dislike.

redridinghood on August 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM

A few weeks ago, Eric Holder saw nothing wrong with Black Panthers using billy clubs to intimidate voters. Today, he thinks intimidating terrorists with cigars is a crime. Holder is the one who should be answering tough questions under oath.

Hah! Glad I’m not the only one who noticed that bit of nuance. Excellent work again Doc.

AUINSC on August 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM

25-35% of this country are sadly a lost cause; they will follow the Far Left impulses of this administration into the crater of the next 9-11 event that shakes this country.

It will be far more productive to convince the Independents and the moderate leaning Americans that the center-right position of the spectrum is the place to occupy in order to retain liberty and protect the nation.

Excellent work as always, Doctor Zero. You should be permanently promoted as a regular HA fellow along with AP and Ed.

itzWicks on August 25, 2009 at 8:07 PM

A few weeks ago, Eric Holder saw nothing wrong with Black Panthers using billy clubs to intimidate voters. Today, he thinks intimidating terrorists with cigars is a crime. Holder is the one who should be answering tough questions under oath.

In addition to which his boss ought to be asked the very same question over & over again until he actually provices a coherent answer.

Or would that be torture?

BD57 on August 25, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Holder is the one who should be answering tough questions under oath.

Holder is the one who should be answering tough questions under oath EIT.

Fixed it for you Doc.

bill30097 on August 25, 2009 at 8:09 PM

“provides” – sheesh. Don’t type when you’re pissed.

BD57 on August 25, 2009 at 8:09 PM

Excellent work as always, Doctor Zero. You should be permanently promoted as a regular HA fellow along with AP and Ed.

itzWicks on August 25, 2009 at 8:07 PM

+1 then we would have a real conervative!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bill30097 on August 25, 2009 at 8:09 PM

Holder learned at the feet of Janet Reno. Never forget that, because the people who last did died when their church was burned to the ground with them in it. Janet took “Complete Responsibility” which meant covering Clintons ass for the next three years.

GunRunner on August 25, 2009 at 8:13 PM

Levin was listing all the pro-terrorist defense attys who are now part of the government.

Blake on August 25, 2009 at 8:14 PM

Unfortunatley, we have a lot of people that can’t think for themselves, they look to the MSM or celebrities to tell them who to like and dislike.

redridinghood on August 25, 2009 at 7:40 PM

Reminds me of junior high school popularity games.

SheofTwoMinds on August 25, 2009 at 8:17 PM

The moral justification for relying on professional military and law-enforcement personnel is the understanding that their training will allow them to do all the terrible things we would do to protect our family, more dispassionately, carefully, and efficiently than we could.

I’ll post that one forward for you. Hell of an article.

blankminde on August 25, 2009 at 8:17 PM

then one day, we will all be soldiers….. I hope that day never comes! If the apathetic populace would stand up and get involved and just vote none of this would be happening now. Its a shame that a few thousand college educated kooks can control the destiny of millions of people.

sonnyspats1 on August 25, 2009 at 8:17 PM

That is the ruth brother!

ObamatheMessiah on August 25, 2009 at 8:18 PM

We’re about a month past the point where anyone capable of independent thought believes Obama is a better president than Bush was.

Priceless.

applebutter on August 25, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Another excellent article about the Obamanation in DC. Keep the great pieces coming Doc.

MainelyRight on August 25, 2009 at 8:22 PM

The Left has demonstrated a willing eagerness to sap American endurance in times of war, again and again.

Why?

To put it in legal terms, you can only be so negligent or craven before the only remaining rationale is that you intended the result. My political analysis of Obama (in a case like the latest CIA disclosures) goes like this:

1. The Left wants it and its a distraction from healthcare, so if it succeeds, good;

2. If it fails, not bad, because eff the USA which can never replace the drunken father I had or the whiteys I had to grow up with.

Q.E.D. Everything is done for a purpose, and this makes sense to Obama. He doesn’t care if the disclosure is a bad idea for America, because a bad idea for America is a good idea for him. That’s why he authorized Holder’s disclosures.

GTR640 on August 25, 2009 at 8:25 PM

A weary public allowed itself to be badgered into electing the first black president, after they ran out of patience waiting for John McCain to explain why they shouldn’t.

Heh – and today McShame was still defending Obama in his TownHall – this time the people booed him……the people should have booed McShame during the election when he said Obama would make a good president – boy was he wrong!!!

izoneguy on August 25, 2009 at 8:30 PM

Who IS this Doctor Zero? He (or she?) articulates the conservative position so succinctly, so concisely, yet with sufficient detail and so many BFO’s (blinding flashes of the obvious) that the writing is packed with rock solid logic.

Great piece, thanks for writing it.

JustTruth101 on August 25, 2009 at 8:34 PM

To suggest that enduring six months of Obama has made the CIA more hesitant to conduct effective intelligence operations is an understatement.

The left always does this – Bill Clinton was instrumental in weaking our intelligence forces causing 9-11…..

izoneguy on August 25, 2009 at 8:34 PM

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Allahpundit on August 25, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Damn well-said as usual, Doc.

Ima crib some of this and bust it out later this week when by no choice of my own I will be forced to hang out with a bunch of dead-eyed 20-something Obamabots, who have no concept of American history before last year and whose continuing, out-of-all-proportion hatred of Bush eclipses anything I ever saw back in the day from SF
Bay Area wannabe-punk clones who hated Reagan.

Mike D. on August 25, 2009 at 8:50 PM

The boy-king and his regents are looking to distract from and evade the domestic failures of the first 6 months, especially the health care debacle. Needing to restore the enthusiasm of their base, they are once again dragging the torn carcass of Bush around the arena. However this is an harbinger of failure in foreign policy as well, and a warning, as you indicate, that the consequences will be more dire. The world is not a slum project waiting to be cleaned up by a well-meaning community organizer. It is a minefield of vicious opportunistic enemies of America who plot and scheme new atrocities in the face of Obama’s perceived weakness. With the CIA in fear and tatters who will scout and bring back the warning signs? Who will listen? Obama’s distractions provide cover for the next sneak attack.
Randy

williars on August 25, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Beautifully put, as we’ve cometo expect from you. You said:

Double-crossing them for political gain is using the families of other people as poker chips…

Why would you expect anything different from a group so indoctrinated in the way of unionization, which view their individual members as nothing more than “bargaining units”?

Political gain and political favors are the only currency they understand.

stoutcat on August 25, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Sorry Doc, this is one area where I think my fellow right-wingers have jumped the shark. Self-defense has nothing to do with torture. Self-defense is justified, even if lethal, because it occurs in medias rez. Joe Thug goes to shoot me or someone else, and I shoot him first–not a moral problem. However, once Joe Thug is in custody, it is no longer moral to do whatever you like with him. Call me a lunatic if you wish, but I would not do just anything to Joe Thug to find out where my family is. There’s a lot I might do, but I would not do just anything. For example, I wouldn’t rape a female terrorist even I knew that doing so would save my family. Why? Because rape is categorically wrong.

Bill Ramey on August 25, 2009 at 9:04 PM

I wish I could write this eloquently. Thank you for saying what so many of us wish to say, but cannot say as well. I’m going to have to visit the Green Room more often.

karen32862 on August 25, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Sorry Doc, this is one area where I think my fellow right-wingers have jumped the shark. Self-defense has nothing to do with torture. Self-defense is justified, even if lethal, because it occurs in medias rez. Joe Thug goes to shoot me or someone else, and I shoot him first–not a moral problem. However, once Joe Thug is in custody, it is no longer moral to do whatever you like with him. Call me a lunatic if you wish, but I would not do just anything to Joe Thug to find out where my family is. There’s a lot I might do, but I would not do just anything. For example, I wouldn’t rape a female terrorist even I knew that doing so would save my family. Why? Because rape is categorically wrong.

Bill Ramey

Hey Bill – thanks for your concerns about the tactics that the Bush administration used to defend our country. Let me correct on one key point that you seemed to have missed in your sanctimonious handwringing: the administration went to GREAT links to ensure that they wouldn’t do ANYTHING. The memos authored by John Yoo et al explicitly laid out what could and couldn’t be done. Can you NOT see that these restrictions did not include “anything.”

And, if I thought that KSM had information about a second strike, I am not sure that I would be too concerned about making him a bit uncomfortable.

Here is a question for you: do you support Obama’s use of predator drones? Do you think these drones only kill the bad guys? Did you support Truman’s decision to drop the big one, probably saving millions of both American and Japanese lives? What about the Allies decision to kill hundreds of thousands of German citizens in the fire bombings of Dresden?

When a few madmen can create their own holocausts and they don’t belong to or respect the mores of advanced civilizations, I believe that they have surrendered their rights. I am not interested in Judge Ito presiding over a circus trial.

johnboy on August 25, 2009 at 9:46 PM

If we don’t let the professionals do their jobs against a relentless enemy now, then one day, we will all be soldiers.

Too late.

baldilocks on August 25, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Right on the mark! Now that is how you make an argument to protect your own in a democracy. Obama, Holder, and the Dems live in some crazy land where terrorists are to be coddled and our protectors to be prosecuted. They are total partisan and dangerous ones at that. I only hope that innocents do not die due to the crimes of these jerks.

mbabbitt on August 25, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Hey Bill – thanks for your concerns about the tactics that the Bush administration used to defend our country. Let me correct on one key point that you seemed to have missed in your sanctimonious handwringing

johnboy on August 25, 2009 at 9:46 PM

I didn’t say anything whatsoever about the Bush administration’s tactics, so I don’t know what your problem is. I merely took issue with Zero’s claims that (1) self-defense entails torture and (2) that only a lunatic wouldn’t do anything to save his family. That’s it. It sounds to me as if you didn’t read Zero’s post all the way through and assumed I was making a comment about the Bush administration, when I was only taking issue with Zero’s claims.

Bill Ramey on August 26, 2009 at 3:06 AM

Fantastic! I always enjoy reading your posts.

SueM on August 26, 2009 at 5:22 AM

Thank you for your outrage.

publiuspen on August 26, 2009 at 6:53 AM

Nothing has ever mattered to socialists except for retaining power. And, in their eyes, no way of achieving that is underhand.

Cue inane cries of Florida! Florida! Florida! from any lurking trolls.

One Against Many on August 26, 2009 at 7:09 AM

A weary public allowed itself to be badgered into electing the first black president, after they ran out of patience waiting for John McCain to explain why they shouldn’t.

Excellent line there. I love the use of the term badgered.

allstonian on August 26, 2009 at 8:11 AM

I think it is time for someone to introduce a bill of impeachment against Mr. Holder. I know it won’t go anywhere with the current make up of the House of Representatives, but at least it might put the fear of god into Holder and the rest of these idiots realzing the just might face a Republican led Congress in the next session. Unfortunately, most Republican representatives are gutless like mine and won’t even list a e-mail address through which their constituents can contact them. The nation is doomed because we are led by leftist statists, and the oppostion are sheep willing to follow this pied piper in the white house anywhere.

georgeofthedesert on August 26, 2009 at 8:45 AM

Picking a fight over National Security to take the focus off health care? This strikes me like trying to cover up your affair by beating up your wife. I have worried about these guys amazing ability to dissemble their way out of trouble but I guess I can begin to relax.

metalguy22 on August 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM

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