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		<title>By: Jay Weinberger</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/08/24/the-war-against-the-war-against-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-29033</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Weinberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that runs Washington as a protector of Syria, it was Casper Weinberger. &#8230; &#160;  The War Against the War Against Terrorism&#8230; Defense Caspar Weinberger less than a week before the 1992 electionâ€¦ likely playing a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: maverick muse</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/08/24/the-war-against-the-war-against-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-26425</link>
		<dc:creator>maverick muse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama/Soros has succeeded in transforming the DHS from its established purpose into an unchecked espionage force against American citizens. He has also reignited what used to be professional jealousies into a raging bonfire between the CIA and the FBI in order to meddle himself into their micromanager. Does Obama disdain Napolitano with the same contempt that he has for Hillary, that he would feel the need to micromanage DHS? He knows he&#039;s incompetent, so he appoints czars to oversee the Director of this and the Secretary of that. Such debt. So many favors to repay.

Eric Holder himself has a conflict of interests and should not be the Director of the Department of Justice. His law firm defended and is yet defending the 9/11 Terrorists. Holder is prosecuting the government instead of the terrorists. Assbackwards, and so long as he&#039;s in office, he&#039;ll go all the way. And so long as Obama is not impeached, Holder stays put, preventing/impeding any impeachment procedure. 

Pelosi has made her position clear, to destroy the CIA.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ace.mu.nu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Overlooked Nugget: IG Report Confirms Nancy Pelosi Did in Fact Lie About Not Being Briefed on EITs
—Ace&lt;/a&gt;

The IG report belies House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s claims that she wasn’t told about all this. “In the fall of 2002, the Agency briefed the leadership of the Congressional Intelligence Oversight Committees on the use of both standard techniques and EITs. . . . Representatives . . . continued to brief the leadership of the Intelligence Oversight Committees on the use of EITs and detentions in February and March 2003. The [CIA] General Counsel says that none of the participants expressed any concern about the techniques or the Program . . . .” Ditto in September 2003.--&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/79351&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jennifer Rubin, &quot;In Case You Had Any Doubts,&quot; Commentary&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574375012840827276.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The Real CIA News,&quot; WSJ&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The two CIA papers don&#039;t discuss enhanced interrogation, though the IG report suggests that KSM provided little of this information prior to his waterboarding. Some will argue that these details could have been elicited without enhanced techniques. We&#039;ll never know. The question is whether Attorney General Eric Holder and his new special counsel intend to second-guess the decisions of CIA officials who were operating in the shadow of 9/11 and who, we now know, successfully unraveled terror plots and saved lives.
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Which brings us to another salient part of the IG report: CIA officials well understood that they might be second-guessed years later by politicians. &quot;During the course of this review, a number of Agency officers expressed unsolicited concern about the possibility of recrimination or legal action resulting from their participation. . . . officers expressed concern that a human rights group might pursue them for activities . . . they feared that the Agency would not stand behind them.&quot; Another said, &quot;Ten years from now we&#039;re going to be sorry we&#039;re doing this . . . [but] it has to be done.&quot;

The outrage here isn&#039;t that government officials used sometimes rough interrogation methods to break our enemies. The outrage is that, years later, when the political winds have shifted and there hasn&#039;t been another attack, our politicians would punish the men and women who did their best to protect Americans in a time of peril.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Anyone can see that GITMO serves a specific need, and that our current prison system stateside is already overloaded, prisoners rioting, judges demanding that convicted felons be released prior to serving sentences, regardless of parole protocol, in order to lower prison population by 20+%. 

And the Secret Service have made their position clear; it is the Department of Homeland Security that is enhancing the threats upon this presidential administration, not the Secret Service&#039;s fault. They claim that the DHS follows the desires of politicians against the advice of traditional safety protocol.

It doesn&#039;t take a rocket scientist to know that Obama&#039;s breaking up NASA and our military, simultaneously, enhancing Russia&#039;s space and missile options. 

Never to waste the opportunity that any crisis creates, what a convenient cover Teddy&#039;s final services will provide the gathering power mongers with whom Emanuel privately arranges meetings.

National defense, Ramadan, and 9/11. Now we hear of Obama&#039;s plot to assault Israel at the UN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama/Soros has succeeded in transforming the DHS from its established purpose into an unchecked espionage force against American citizens. He has also reignited what used to be professional jealousies into a raging bonfire between the CIA and the FBI in order to meddle himself into their micromanager. Does Obama disdain Napolitano with the same contempt that he has for Hillary, that he would feel the need to micromanage DHS? He knows he&#8217;s incompetent, so he appoints czars to oversee the Director of this and the Secretary of that. Such debt. So many favors to repay.</p>
<p>Eric Holder himself has a conflict of interests and should not be the Director of the Department of Justice. His law firm defended and is yet defending the 9/11 Terrorists. Holder is prosecuting the government instead of the terrorists. Assbackwards, and so long as he&#8217;s in office, he&#8217;ll go all the way. And so long as Obama is not impeached, Holder stays put, preventing/impeding any impeachment procedure. </p>
<p>Pelosi has made her position clear, to destroy the CIA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ace.mu.nu/" rel="nofollow">Overlooked Nugget: IG Report Confirms Nancy Pelosi Did in Fact Lie About Not Being Briefed on EITs<br />
—Ace</a></p>
<p>The IG report belies House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s claims that she wasn’t told about all this. “In the fall of 2002, the Agency briefed the leadership of the Congressional Intelligence Oversight Committees on the use of both standard techniques and EITs. . . . Representatives . . . continued to brief the leadership of the Intelligence Oversight Committees on the use of EITs and detentions in February and March 2003. The [CIA] General Counsel says that none of the participants expressed any concern about the techniques or the Program . . . .” Ditto in September 2003.&#8211;<a href="http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/79351" rel="nofollow">Jennifer Rubin, &#8220;In Case You Had Any Doubts,&#8221; Commentary</a></p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574375012840827276.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The Real CIA News,&#8221; WSJ</a></p>
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The two CIA papers don&#8217;t discuss enhanced interrogation, though the IG report suggests that KSM provided little of this information prior to his waterboarding. Some will argue that these details could have been elicited without enhanced techniques. We&#8217;ll never know. The question is whether Attorney General Eric Holder and his new special counsel intend to second-guess the decisions of CIA officials who were operating in the shadow of 9/11 and who, we now know, successfully unraveled terror plots and saved lives.<br />
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<p>Which brings us to another salient part of the IG report: CIA officials well understood that they might be second-guessed years later by politicians. &#8220;During the course of this review, a number of Agency officers expressed unsolicited concern about the possibility of recrimination or legal action resulting from their participation. . . . officers expressed concern that a human rights group might pursue them for activities . . . they feared that the Agency would not stand behind them.&#8221; Another said, &#8220;Ten years from now we&#8217;re going to be sorry we&#8217;re doing this . . . [but] it has to be done.&#8221;</p>
<p>The outrage here isn&#8217;t that government officials used sometimes rough interrogation methods to break our enemies. The outrage is that, years later, when the political winds have shifted and there hasn&#8217;t been another attack, our politicians would punish the men and women who did their best to protect Americans in a time of peril.</p></blockquote>
<p>Anyone can see that GITMO serves a specific need, and that our current prison system stateside is already overloaded, prisoners rioting, judges demanding that convicted felons be released prior to serving sentences, regardless of parole protocol, in order to lower prison population by 20+%. </p>
<p>And the Secret Service have made their position clear; it is the Department of Homeland Security that is enhancing the threats upon this presidential administration, not the Secret Service&#8217;s fault. They claim that the DHS follows the desires of politicians against the advice of traditional safety protocol.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a rocket scientist to know that Obama&#8217;s breaking up NASA and our military, simultaneously, enhancing Russia&#8217;s space and missile options. </p>
<p>Never to waste the opportunity that any crisis creates, what a convenient cover Teddy&#8217;s final services will provide the gathering power mongers with whom Emanuel privately arranges meetings.</p>
<p>National defense, Ramadan, and 9/11. Now we hear of Obama&#8217;s plot to assault Israel at the UN.</p>
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		<title>By: maverick muse</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/08/24/the-war-against-the-war-against-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-26414</link>
		<dc:creator>maverick muse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/blockquote&gt;quickly truncated than see them abide on and on. &lt;blockquote&gt;

I like that.

Sept.11th is just around the corner. And Holder is dead set in time to blame America first; Obama seconding the motion with executive orders to mandate penance from Americans for bringing all this trouble for him to inherit.

Obama&#039;s release of the Afghan terrorist as a peace offering for al Qaeda and the Taliban to celebrate Ramadan reeks particularly since the terrorist is bound to kill more Americans, more of Obama&#039;s troops. Twisted potus.

And the British press report the British populace wanting to pull out of Afghanistan come a year&#039;s end, abandoning their commitment with us and with NATO. Their media are hitting hard the &quot;it&#039;s just not worth it&quot; heart strings that strike home hard, giving politicians reason to back out come the end of another year.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;THE TIMES

The Electoral Commission in Kabul said that early estimates of voting in the former Taleban stronghold of Babaji, north of Lashkar Gah, the provincial capital, indicated that few exercised their right to vote last Thursday. Several thousand people could have voted. 

Just 150 Afghan voters dared to go to the ballot box in the area of Helmand province where British soldiers sacrificed their lives to secure a safe election day, it was revealed yesterday.

The figures were released as the British Ambassador to Kabul admitted that troops could be engaged in combat in Afghanistan for five more years.&lt;blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quickly truncated than see them abide on and on.<br />
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<p>I like that.</p>
<p>Sept.11th is just around the corner. And Holder is dead set in time to blame America first; Obama seconding the motion with executive orders to mandate penance from Americans for bringing all this trouble for him to inherit.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s release of the Afghan terrorist as a peace offering for al Qaeda and the Taliban to celebrate Ramadan reeks particularly since the terrorist is bound to kill more Americans, more of Obama&#8217;s troops. Twisted potus.</p>
<p>And the British press report the British populace wanting to pull out of Afghanistan come a year&#8217;s end, abandoning their commitment with us and with NATO. Their media are hitting hard the &#8220;it&#8217;s just not worth it&#8221; heart strings that strike home hard, giving politicians reason to back out come the end of another year.
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<p>THE TIMES</p>
<p>The Electoral Commission in Kabul said that early estimates of voting in the former Taleban stronghold of Babaji, north of Lashkar Gah, the provincial capital, indicated that few exercised their right to vote last Thursday. Several thousand people could have voted. </p>
<p>Just 150 Afghan voters dared to go to the ballot box in the area of Helmand province where British soldiers sacrificed their lives to secure a safe election day, it was revealed yesterday.</p>
<p>The figures were released as the British Ambassador to Kabul admitted that troops could be engaged in combat in Afghanistan for five more years.<br />
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		<title>By: 18-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>18-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and is now being investigated by Spain as a “crime against humanity.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, I guess Spain is a pretty clear example of what you get when you have a country that would eschew EITs. I&#039;m sure all those victims&#039; families are proud that Spain would instead allow AQ free reign in their country. 

Speaking of which, Spain is now the exemplar of virtue charge with prosecuting evil doers, huh? Well, I guess we can be thankful the Euros didn&#039;t choose Germany or Belgium (see Belgian Congo). Also, when will Castro and Chavez be charged?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>and is now being investigated by Spain as a “crime against humanity.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, I guess Spain is a pretty clear example of what you get when you have a country that would eschew EITs. I&#8217;m sure all those victims&#8217; families are proud that Spain would instead allow AQ free reign in their country. </p>
<p>Speaking of which, Spain is now the exemplar of virtue charge with prosecuting evil doers, huh? Well, I guess we can be thankful the Euros didn&#8217;t choose Germany or Belgium (see Belgian Congo). Also, when will Castro and Chavez be charged?</p>
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		<title>By: odannyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>odannyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it will be door #3. They always believe they can come through with no trouble sticking, there is always another crises to divert attention if this gets rough, and they can depend on the MSM to not report what you don&#039;t need to know. Against all odds, all sanity even, the O administration always doubles down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it will be door #3. They always believe they can come through with no trouble sticking, there is always another crises to divert attention if this gets rough, and they can depend on the MSM to not report what you don&#8217;t need to know. Against all odds, all sanity even, the O administration always doubles down.</p>
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		<title>By: As we near the 900 post mark &#171; DaTechguy&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>As we near the 900 post mark &#171; DaTechguy&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] the risks still exist, I think this is sheer panic to change the subject. He has fallen into the final trap laid by George W. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The War Against the War Against Terrorism &#124; America Watches Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>The War Against the War Against Terrorism &#124; America Watches Obama</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: YehuditTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>YehuditTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 05:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think Holder will go for Option #3; even these ideologues in their lefty bubble understand what that would bring about. Or rather, Holder &amp; Pelosi may go for it but Obama will rein them in. He&#039;s clueless about some things but he can see that far down the road, especially in the wake of the Teaparty anti-Obamacare movement. I think Holder might begin by aiming for #3 but settle for #2.

However if they just feel their oats and throw caution to the wind.... #3 would provide the McCarthyite moment I have been hoping for since Obama&#039;s attempt to sic the DoJ on McCain last summer, through the Chrysler bondholder arm-twisting, the czars, the AF1 flyover, refusal to condemn the Iran repression, support of Zelaya, smearing of Walpin, Crowley ...

&quot;Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think Holder will go for Option #3; even these ideologues in their lefty bubble understand what that would bring about. Or rather, Holder &amp; Pelosi may go for it but Obama will rein them in. He&#8217;s clueless about some things but he can see that far down the road, especially in the wake of the Teaparty anti-Obamacare movement. I think Holder might begin by aiming for #3 but settle for #2.</p>
<p>However if they just feel their oats and throw caution to the wind&#8230;. #3 would provide the McCarthyite moment I have been hoping for since Obama&#8217;s attempt to sic the DoJ on McCain last summer, through the Chrysler bondholder arm-twisting, the czars, the AF1 flyover, refusal to condemn the Iran repression, support of Zelaya, smearing of Walpin, Crowley &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daggett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Distraction.  While we&#039;re all fussing about this (which will go nowhere), Obama will continue to replace Congress with Czars, push through bills, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Distraction.  While we&#8217;re all fussing about this (which will go nowhere), Obama will continue to replace Congress with Czars, push through bills, etc.</p>
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