[ps] When was Deuteronomy written? Some say it was written during the 7th century which has become the linch-pin of Old Testement criticism. Funny that was when Muhammad was just coming into his own.

Americannodash on July 19, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Er, Muhammad was around 600 AD.

Pretty sure Dueteronomy had been around a few centuries by then.

I’m done with you Katy. Bless & peace be with you in all your endeavors.

Americannodash on July 19, 2009 at 4:04 PM

One final thought;
-Apparently you do not stand by your first paragraph or you would not have responded.
I asked you a question based on your post and you chose to respond. Your response back to me was spiced with the very thing claim you wanted to avoid.
For me it tends to lend itself toward the dissent within groups of people who share political goals but those people would rather concentrate on the minor differences of their respective religiosities than their commonalities.

Here comes some Trinity speak for you Katy:

In addition, of course Jesus can quote Deuteronomy. The Holy Bible’s words themselves was inspired through and from God, correct?. What makes you think God (or Jesus in this case) can’t repeat or speak his own words? I would have thought you figured that one out. God is everywhere and everlasting is he not? This is the argument that baffles most atheists. Ask Allahpundit yourself Katy if you think he can wrap his arms around Trinity speak. My guess is that Allahpundit has no thoughts on matters that never existed.

A little snark, a little hypocrisy a little attitude and a quick exit.

“I’m done with you Katy”?

hummmm…. That’s all you’ve got?

and an obvious and flagrantly disingenuous blessing…. but I’ll take it anyway ;o)

I rarely engage in religious discussions. For me it tends to lend itself toward the dissent within groups of people who share political goals but those people would rather concentrate on the minor differences of their respective religiosities than their commonalities. Now that I have prefaced you with that premise with no panacea on the horizon, lets discuss this a bit.

I cut and pasted the first paragraph from my first comment on this thread for you Katy. I stand by it because of the dissent that takes place when different religions are discussed. I’m done with you Katy. Bless & peace be with you in all your endeavors.

Americannodash on July 19, 2009 at 2:47 PM

The last chapter of Deut was an account of his death. It made the Law complete.
In no way does that fact give speculation to its author or the time frame in which it was written down. It was the Word of God passed from Moses to the people. The stone Torah exisits. All of it in stone. In the Hebrew language one letter can represent thousands of words. The “ten commandments” was the entire 5 books of Moses.

Yes it was written down on skins later but it was not a new revelation to come about in the 7th century if that is what you suggest.

As far as trinity speak. Not sure what you mean by trinity speak….except perhaps an assumption of my faith walk on your part. I have studied Torah for years and do not subscribe to the “trinity” understanding of God.
Yes, Jesus did speak his own words. My point was they were not new to the people He spoke them to. The Jews of His time only had the Torah and the Prophets to study and learn from so it would be natural that he would use them to teach from. What He did was open those words up to a greater understanding and that proved a challenge to the religious leaders of His time hence the conflicts.
He read from the Torah in the temple. He used the words and instruction of the Torah in His sermons. That’s what I’m saying.

Are you serious about when Deuteronomy was written?
You can’t be.
Every prophet from beyond the time of the author Moses (including Jesus) quoted from it.
Do some research on…. Torah.

katy on July 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I did research it. Hence, my post scripture to RSM.
BTW, In the book of Deuteronomy, the author (according to you is MOSES) writes of the death of Moses. How can someone who is dead write about their own death? That is the linch-pin of my argument and why there is the criticism of the Old Testement out there. When it was written or shall I say transcribed into the book of Deuteronomy must have occurred after the death of Moses. I did say that some say that it was written in the 7th century. I did not include myself in that statement. My guess is that it was probably transcribed between the time of Josiah and King Solomon.

Here comes some Trinity speak for you Katy:

In addition, of course Jesus can quote Deuteronomy. The Holy Bible’s words themselves was inspired through and from God, correct?. What makes you think God (or Jesus in this case) can’t repeat or speak his own words? I would have thought you figured that one out. God is everywhere and everlasting is he not? This is the argument that baffles most atheists. Ask Allahpundit yourself Katy if you think he can wrap his arms around Trinity speak. My guess is that Allahpundit has no thoughts on matters that never existed.

you’re “just a blogger,”

Sad to say, if it wasn’t for Hot Air®, I may have never known about The Washington Times existence. The funny thing about that is I lived in Columbia and Frederick County MD (at different times) for more than 3 years in the late 80’s. Honestly, blogs and paper print news media bore me to tears.

The “Life vs. Death” topic interests me. I can’t understand why we humans think it important to limit our numbers while no other species on the planet has ever felt it to be a good idea.

I simply do not enjoy reading blog websites. Many of the topics in The Greenroom are of interest to me. I find The Greenroom and Hot Air to be excellent sites for news, editorial, and commentary. I have to laugh when I read comments on Hot Air sopped with anger and frustration in reaction to Allah Pundit’s genius; in disapproval, they call him a click-whore. I wince when I read comments in The Greenroom sopped with praise, in reaction to a Greenroom poster’s genius; in admiration, they suggest the poster should have their own blog site. The eloquent Greenroom poster and the master of comment-producing squibs (and our beloved Ed,) have exposure to wide-scale loyal readership for posters, and provide readers and commenters a well-rounded waypoint on the Internet for a digest of current events, discoveries, observations, essays, and fun.

I was also reared in a man-made religious faith. I married a woman of Catholic faith. We both learned and continue to learn the value of life versus death. We learn through recognition of our own sins and from insightful writers conversant in the topics. The Church helps us keep perspective on where we’ve been and where we may venture from this point. I reflect about my past on why I was where I was, and your “Big Money and the Culture of Death” post did as I inferred in my comment, it provided me with another “why” why my past has some details that I prefer it did not.

Hot Air is my main source of news and information. I’m way too busy and lazy for any other type of media and Hot Air is easy for me to either access or dismiss with the click of a button. I can read it at work, at home, or on my cracker. The Greenroom provides me with depth on a topic written by an author who is interested and passionate about the topic. I find that I need a little more time more time to explore The Greenroom but it is always time well spent. It’s like spending the day in the library, but instead, its everywhere I go.

Your “Sunday Morning: Life vs. Death” post is uniquely seasoned. I’d love to see more of this from you as you find the time to share with us. My favorite thing about both The Greenroom and Hot Air sites is the community. Or is it because it provides a familiarity of diversity? I like all the directions that the comments take and the diverse opinions that comprise each thread. What could be better than reading (or posting) an item and at the same time discover that your take on the content of the item is shared by many or possibly by no one else but you? I’ll be looking for more from The Other McCain.

[ps] When was Deuteronomy written? Some say it was written during the 7th century which has become the linch-pin of Old Testement criticism. Funny that was when Muhammad was just coming into his own.

Americannodash on July 19, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Are you serious about when Deuteronomy was written?
You can’t be.
Every prophet from beyond the time of the author Moses (including Jesus) quoted from it.
Do some research on…. Torah.

Are we to be edified by Protestant confessionalism here? This might be one of the reasons why you don’t get as much of the linky love from Allahpundit the Atheist and Captain Ed Morrissey the Catholic. How do you define your Protestantism? Does it lean toward Calvinism, Lutheranism or is it the Americanization of both for the Christianity sake your prepositional argument here. I was going to say propositional argument but decided that fallicies are in the eye of the beholder or is that the emboldened?

Now for the reference to… “Mea culpa, as the old-school Catholics say, mea maxima culpa” or in english “my fault”, or “my own fault.” Well I am one of those old Catholics and as my memory serves, mea culpa was just one of the many latin expressions thrust upon us in Catholic parochial school by those Episcopalian or Franciscan nuns along with the swats from yard sticks across our backsides & pieces of chalk pelted at the back of our heads for being disruptive in class. Oh, how I miss those days of corporal punishment by the nuns. Ah, but I digress from the mea culpa original point yet that is “my own fault” (pun intended). The “mea culpa” was not a dominant Catholic saying for me to live my life by but I’ll tell you what was. I thought being raised Catholic was to learn how to professionally apply the “guilt trip” on others if they were not receptive to your point of view (bending them to your will). It wasn’t until I turned 18 and ventured out into this big bad world and found out that the “guilt trip” phychology on others ended up being an universal human condition. Case in point, how else could an unqualified and inexperienced white man ascend to the presidency of the United States. Did I say white man? Well perhaps I was wrong, mea culpa, hmmmmm.

Robert, you are who you are and I respect you very much but please keep the religiosity out of these follow on post if you can. Do the best you can or at least keep it as far afield when trying to make a point. Thanks.

[ps] When was Deuteronomy written? Some say it was written during the 7th century which has become the linch-pin of Old Testement criticism. Funny that was when Muhammad was just coming into his own.