Big Government Versus Big Business
posted at 2:39 pm on July 13, 2009 by Doctor Zero
Every species of liberal hates and fears big corporations. Conservatives are often amazed that liberals could place so much faith in Big Government, when it has such a horrific record of producing waste, corruption, and bloodshed, around the world and across the decades. One of the keys to understanding the Left is appreciating their conviction that either Big Business or Big Government will inevitably control American life, and they very much prefer the latter.
Both Big Government and Big Business emerged from the rapid industrialization and urbanization of the nineteenth century. Heavy industry provided irresistible economies of scale to both large businesses, and large concentrations of population. You can’t manufacture heavy machinery, refine gasoline, or produce industrial-grade steel at small local mom-and-pop operations, for consumption by a purely local market. Local craftsman can’t match the productivity of big manufacturing plants. The Industrial Revolution produced a huge number of factory jobs, and the population flowed into urban areas to take them. This had a profound effect on both the quality of life, and the shape of politics.
The twentieth century brought the rise of various political movements that believed industrial science could be used to shape human relations. There was a great deal of faith in the power of science to engineer an ideal society, filled with perfect citizens. All those people crammed into cities and factories were crying out to be organized, much as the factory machinery was carefully engineered to exacting specifications. The leading intellectuals of the pre-war era were almost unanimous in their belief that scientific methods should be used to create a powerful, super-intelligent central state, which would organize the citizens for maximum efficiency.
Economies of scale continue to provide incentives for corporate growth. The phenomenon of Wal-Mart, and other big-box retail operations, is based on the concept of purchasing goods in vast quantities, so they can be resold at a discount in large, no-frills stores. Huge electronics companies have created amazing devices, which they manufacture and sell at remarkably low prices. The pioneers of the personal computer may have created their first crude machines in garage laboratories, but no one could have designed and built an iPhone that way. The Left sees this inexorable movement toward large corporations as a frightening development, and feels that only an even larger and more powerful government protects them from mega-corporate greed.
Conservatives wonder how liberals could possibly be willing to sacrifice their liberties to a huge central government. The Left views many of these liberties as dead letters, or dusty antiques, in a world of huge corporations and high technology. Liberals are much more interested in “positive rights,” or entitlements – the “right” to food, housing, health care, and so forth. What good is the “right” to choose your own doctor, when average folks understand nothing about medicine, and are prone to being ripped off by Big Pharma and its billion-dollar ad campaigns? How can people be held responsible for defaulting on their credit card debts, when Big Credit fooled them into accepting credit limits they couldn’t sustain, at interest rates they can never repay? To the Left, ordinary citizens are helpless pawns in the schemes of immense, predatory corporate interests.
Of course, Big Government is larger, more powerful, and more destructive than any company could ever dream of being. Liberals often cite Microsoft as the ultimate example of corporate evil, falsely describing it as a monopoly. (A “monopoly” is not a very rich company with few serious competitors.) No matter what you think of Microsoft, it cannot actually force you to buy its products, or legally bar other companies from offering competing products. The government can do those things. Ford Motor Company can’t apply tariffs against foreign automobiles, rearrange safety and fuel standards to make competing vehicles prohibitively expensive to the consumer, or seize money from people who aren’t its customers to subsidize its business practices. The new owners of General Motors can.
Why does the Left embrace Big Government, despite its fearsome track record? Because they believe citizens have some influence over the government, but none over private industry. The act of voting for political leaders grants them a moral legitimacy that private companies can never have. The collectivist philosophies of the past century are based on the concept of government as the incarnation of the popular will. The State is the avatar of the people, and its officials are directly answerable to the voters, who can send them packing if they dislike their policies. Liberals hate big corporations because the common man is not consulted when CEOs are appointed. You’ll never be more than a registration number to Microsoft, but every few years, you get to march into the voting booth and make your voice heard by politicians!
To accept this argument, one must ignore the role of money as a form of communication. As one of the characters in Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged,” puts it: “When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns–or dollars. Take your choice–there is no other.” The private sector’s response to monetary incentives is much faster, and more efficient, than government’s response to elections held every few years. Barack Obama claims a mandate to restructure the entire relationship of citizens to their government, after winning the support of about 33% of eligible voters. No private company would count the support of only 33% of its potential market as a soaring success, or consider it a mandate to restructure the entire marketplace. For a national politician, 60% approval ratings are called “stratospheric.” For a national corporation, 60% consumer satisfaction is a disaster.
The idealistic vision of concerned voters using their ballots to restrain incompetent or malevolent politicians is nothing but a comforting illusion. A great deal of power over your life is wielded by long-term senators and representatives from states where you have no vote. If you aren’t one of the roughly 300,000 voters in Massachusetts District 4, you have absolutely no influence over Barney Frank, the man who engineered the subprime market collapse. If you hate the President’s policies and want him out of your life, but 51% of the country disagrees in the next election, you’re stuck. In fact, if it’s a three-party race like 1992, your passionate opposition could be over-ruled even if a sizable majority of the country agrees with you. The popular fantasy of politicians as “employees” of the voters, who can “fire” them if they under-perform or misbehave, is dangerous because it has made people comfortable with giving up far too much of their freedom.
Big Government’s unresponsiveness is exceeded only by its inefficiency. Government programs expand through failure. A bureaucrat only gets more funding if he can show his past year’s funding was insufficient. Private companies are always hungry to increase sales and market share, which gives them a constant incentive to provide value for money. Corporate managers can’t lay out failed projects and stagnant growth at a board meeting, and expect to receive big bonuses and increased funding… but that is exactly how Big Government works.
The liberal phobia about Big Business leads to the false premise that Americans must choose between having their lives run by either corporations or the government. Big Business isn’t trying to send inspectors into your house, to make certain you’re using the right kind of light bulbs. Americans should strive to ensure their government is small, transparent, and tightly focused on both enforcing and respecting the law. A vibrant, free economy gives us the wealth to attend to the needs of the poor, and take proper care of the environment. Large companies are an inevitable byproduct of that prosperity. Those companies must be policed, the same as private citizens must be policed, for no one is truly free in a state of anarchy. Learning to fight the irrational fear and hatred of Big Business is a vital endeavor, because it causes far too many people to flee into the waiting arms of Big Government… a far more powerful, predatory, and uncontrollable beast.









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Actually, Microsoft has done both. Your point is still valid and well-taken. Microsoft (and companies like Monsanto) are exceptions to the rule.
Daggett on July 13, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Ummm… respectfully, BULL.
And Dr. Zero, I just feel compelled to recite the truth that fascist economics is VERY well-received by SOME big businesses. Adam Smith recognized the greatest danger to a free market was collaboration between incumbent business and government, which has certainly held true in our recent experience.
Ragspierre on July 13, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Tell that to the creators of some digital rights management software.
TheUnrepentantGeek on July 13, 2009 at 4:40 PM
i dont trust big bidnazz much
i trust them more than big government
but not a lot
blatantblue on July 13, 2009 at 8:34 PM
American companies can, and do, apply tariffs against foreign competitors and collect from it. The entire 2009 HTSUS is an encyclopedia of levelling the competition and further to that, the antidumping investigations is where absolute control is placed in the hands of the few. Let me offer some examples:
1. FMC Corp and Persulfates
2. Celanese and polyvinyl alcohol
(most folks won’t realize these are a part of everyday life.)
Reading the investigations is quite disheartening. Big business and government enjoy one another’s company in bed now and then.
ericdijon on July 13, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Ragspierre on July 13, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Err, every blank CD you buy contains a payment to the RIAA to offset any “illegal” copying you may do. Back in the days of cassette tapes, it was the same. Not so long ago microsoft lobbied for laws that would require that all “whitebox” computer sales include a payment to offset the fact that those people were obviously just going to pirate Windows (cos you can’t run a computer without an OS, and Lord knows there is none other than Bill’s).
And why is it that a computer with an operating system that costs over $200 is $50 or $100 less than the exactly same hardware with a free operating system? Is MS perhaps paying Dell to do that? Obviously BULL.
Back to the main point of the article: very large corporations with good political connexions are real dicks. Maybe not as bad as a hideously corrupt govt., but close. Of course it’s still usually the government giving them help.
fronclynne on July 13, 2009 at 8:46 PM
@Daggett That is BS.
In any case, this is a brilliantly written article.
DaveS on July 13, 2009 at 8:46 PM
GE would fit that shoe.
On another note – I often wonder where Liberals think the money for their social agenda would come from if not from businesses and the people working for them. Without business there is no government.
DerKrieger on July 13, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Yeah Daggett, total crap there.
I think its interesting that Goldman-Sachs has and now GE is trying to “take over” government by insinuatintg themselves into it at the highest levels.
Iblis on July 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM
I’ve noticed with the liberals is that you can put this argument right in front of their face………….
…………. and they still won’t see it.
Good job, Doc, as always………..
Seven Percent Solution on July 13, 2009 at 9:18 PM
False dichotomy. Big Business is largely indistinguishable from Big Government. The true dichotomy is Government vs. The Free Market, free by virtue of the fact that its outcomes are arbitrated but not controlled by government. Collusion between the two is no less evil than one’s control over the other, and Big Business makes a policy of using government to eliminate its competitors, either current or future.
Economies of scale are one thing, but buying off the ref is where much of the real problem lies.
spmat on July 13, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Big Business loves nothing more than Big Government, and vice-versa.
That’s what our friends on the voting left can’t seem to grasp, even though Tim Carney and Reason have tried and tried to elucidate that fact.
Contrary to their rhetoric (and isn’t that always the way?) the Democrat Party is all about the megacorps, because they do their fascist bidding, and Democrats impose insane regs/taxes/responsibilites which puts their smaller competition out of business. Entrepreneurs can’t afford Democrats and are finding it more and more difficult to compete with Big Gov-Big Biz Fascism (we’re already spend a lot of time/money complying with useless regulations, playing tax collector, immigration official and social worker for our ever-benevolent government).
And not for nothing, but those dirty-dealing “Too Big To Fail” (no such animal exists) MegaBankstas currently being rewarded with trillions in bailouts for their fraud are being made even bigger, while the plain-dealing “too small to save” community banks are closed every Friday. And not for nothing but Obama is trying to make a Banksta-Government union permanent.
Oh, and Charlie Rangel says the way to fund the Democrats’ glorious new healthcare system is by taxing small businesses.
The left has no business playing the “For the Moms-and-Pops” card, just like they have no business playing the “For the Children” card after they killed the DC School Voucher program, just as they have no business playing the “For the Elderly” card when they decided geriocide was the way to cut health care (and social security) costs.
/populist rant
Rae on July 13, 2009 at 9:32 PM
If someone in “big business” screws me …
I can sue them.
If the government screws me …
What can I do? Lay there and moan?
HondaV65 on July 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Definitely helps to put things in perspective. I guess I buy into this to some extent too (I mean the idea that one or the other will control things – not that I prefer government by any stretch). The problem is that big business is almost always corrupt and wasteful in the same ways as big government, just not to the same extent. The one exception I’m aware of is Google, and while their products are top-notch, I don’t know that I particularly care for them as a corporation. One has to admire their business model and strategy though, in so many ways.
Still, as spmat said, too often big business uses big government to its advantage, and we should support small and local business as much as humanly possible. Whether it be corporate welfare or just plain buying them out, big business always seems to have a way of using big government to get what it wants in nefarious ways. Don’t get me wrong, there are some exceptions, and they deserve to be commended. I just can’t think of any offhand. I suppose Ford could count, but I’m sure in the past they made use of it just as much as anyone else.
OneGyT on July 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM
This is a serious problem.
It’s Fascism without the goose stepping and concentration camps, but Fascism all the same.
Chaz706 on July 13, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Envy is always ugly.
daesleeper on July 13, 2009 at 10:17 PM
No matter what you think of Microsoft, it cannot actually force you to buy its products, or legally bar other companies from offering competing products.
Doctor Zero
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Actually, Microsoft has done both. Your point is still valid and well-taken. Microsoft (and companies like Monsanto) are exceptions to the rule.
Daggett on July 13, 2009 at 2:57 PM
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Daggett is technically correct on the first point. Microsoft can, if not force you to buy its’ products, then make not buying its’ products equally expensive…
BSA “audits” where companies are, essentially, shaken down and forced to buy the number of licenses that “comparable companies use”. Sure, you can try to fight based on ‘we don’t need that many, we use software X’, but it costs time and money to do so, and that has to be passed down to the customers. Oh, and there’s a nice product from Microsoft that will help you keep your business’ licenses in order. And it ain’t free.
Okay, so that’s “big customers”, but little guys get hosed too. Just try to buy a new PC (NOT an Apple) without a Microsoft OS on it. It can be done but, surprise surprise, even if you go for the no-Windows option, you’re *still* paying for it because of the contracts between PC vendors and Microsoft. Microsoft offers them a discount on all the windows licenses if they charge every customer for a copy, whether they distribute it or not…
As for point 2, blocking its’ competitors, there’s several methods MS have used, I’ll just cover one.
“Embrace, Extend, Extinguish” is the one that’s been most effective, where they first proclaim their love for a competitors’ product and build support for it into their product; once it’s gained acceptance, they introduce an ‘improvement’ that breaks the competitors’ tool, rendering it incompatible with the (now large) installed base; finally they buy out the (mortally wounded) competitor, and extinguish the competing product in favor of their own.
Since this is something Microsoft has repeatedly done, while there’s no *requirement* to switch to the Microsoft product early in this cycle, once you see that they’re playing this tune again, if you want to remain employed, it’s a safe thing to do.
Sorry, Doctor Zero. Microsoft is a hell of a competitor when they decide to play by the rules – doubly so when they decide to cheat.
Mew
acat on July 13, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Well said, Doc-Z.
BS
FloatingRock on July 13, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Microsoft tries it’s best to force people that choose to use their products to comply with relevant laws and MS’s licensing policies, but they can’t force people to chose their products in the first place, and alternatives have always been available.
MS may have had some bad products over the years that have stirred some legitimate complains, but most of the anti-MS paranoia is total fabrication invented by competitors with inferior products.
FloatingRock on July 13, 2009 at 10:49 PM
It’s worse than that — the “general will” theory that you’re describing, first proposed by Jean-Jacques Rousseau, doesn’t particularly rely on real democracy. The idea is that the franchise exists until the “best” people rise to government; then the “best” people present the remainder with their own choice and several false choices. Since these are the “best” people, their opinions by definition constitute the “general will,” which the remainder desire whether or not they are conscious of it. Accountability doesn’t enter into it at all — how can the herd hold the “best” accountable? Maybe some of the unenlightened voters of the left believe as you describe, but an increasing number of them, and certainly the leaders, don’t believe in holding the “best” accountable at all.
This is why the federal government was never intended to exercise long-term direct influence on individual citizens or communities. After all, what does a Congressman from Massachusetts, for example, know about conditions or culture in California? How can roughly 150 million people plus one know what is best for the other 150 million? From Montesquieu to Hamilton to Tocqueville, it was understood that the weakness of a democracy was that once the population reached a certain size, it really represented nothing more than a tyranny of the majority. As a result, the only way to combine the benefits of a democracy with a large population was through a confederated republic, which left the bulk of the decisions to governmental units small enough that a majority would somewhat accurately reflect the real mood and desires of the polity. Unfortunately, the trend toward centralization that Tocqueville detected proved to be stronger than the desire for autonomy of the states.
Really, it’s only when government has the power to interfere in the markets that Business becomes Big enough to be scary. As someone else remarked above, Adam Smith demonstrated in The Wealth of Nations that monopoly is impossible absent government favoritism. Ask yourself how many American monopolies existed before the Civil War, as opposed to after . . .
loneloc on July 13, 2009 at 11:12 PM
What fascist economics cannot tolerate is entrepreneurial activity…which is very like the expression of individual liberty in the realm of economics.
Fascism is the much more dangerous cousin of socialism. It is dangerous because it is much more attractive, much less threatening.
The fascist model classically has three collaborators; big (compliant) business, big labor, and government. Together, they form the corporatist collective, with government calling the shots. That is NOT an indictment of business generally, or even big business. It is simply a historical fact.
Innovative entrepreneurs are antithetical to the fascist structure, and…like individuals who will not conform to the collective…cannot be tolerated. For exactly the same reasons.
Ragspierre on July 13, 2009 at 11:19 PM
No question that various forms of Big Business are among Big Government’s best customers… the return on investment from “buying off the ref,” as spmat put it, can be phenomenal. The ability to change the rules of the game is invaluable to any competitor. A football team would gain a tremendous advantage by rewriting the rules so it gained a first down every six yards.
There is always a signature difference between Big Business and Big Government, however: force. Government retains a monopoly on the legal use of force. It is, unfortunately, willing to rent force out to certain Big Businesses, for the right price. In the modern business environment, anti-competitive practices require not only negligence from the government, but active collaboration. A company needs help from the government to level tariffs or close off markets. No matter how overbearing Microsoft becomes, and regardless of how aggressive its business practices are, it will never have squads of armed commandos to enforce its will on the citizens. Companies can persuade Big Government to subsidize them, but they can’t levy their own taxes on you. General Motors could not have decided, in the first quarter of 2008, to appropriate two hundred dollars from every American taxpayer – but in the first quarter of 2009, they prevailed on their government sugar daddies to do exactly that.
Corporations will sometimes contribute to socialist candidates and promote their agendas, because they realize the impact of these agendas will fall more heavily on small, hungry competitors. A massive health-care mandate means relatively little to a huge company that already pays big bucks for health-care benefits, but it will absolutely destroy the company’s smaller competitors, and block entry into the market for small start-ups that can’t afford to pay the mandated benefits.
I think the increasing size of corporations has been a historical and technological inevitability, and it leads me to be more convinced than ever that only Small Government can effectively restrain Big Businesses’ worst instincts, while simultaneously leaving them free to provide the enormous benefits they bring to the consumer. Small Government can be tightly focused, bound by the same clear laws it enforces on the private sector, and lean enough to where buying it off is not worth the expense or risk. Small Government’s term-limited representatives can cycle through Washington without building caliphates of graft. Senators and congressmen are investments that appreciate in value for the moneyed interests that buy them off, so it makes sense to send them home before they mature into monstrosities.
Doctor Zero on July 13, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Since I have no particular love for Microsoft or its business practices, and raised it as an example primarily to deflate the Left’s cartoon caricature of it, I’m interested to hear what you think would ideally be done to prevent the sort of things you described. It seems to me the government spends more time facilitating anti-competitive practices than preventing them.
I would offer one limited defense of Microsoft: the personal computer industry has benefited enormously from having a more-or-less universal operating system, and it’s hard to see how one could have evolved without something like Microsoft taking shape around it. I remember the chaos of the Apple II – Commodore – Atari – IBM personal computer days. Someone was bound to get phenomenally rich, and develop a symbiotic relationship with hardware manufacturers, by ending the operating system wars at the mass consumer level. If a few things had gone differently in the 80s, it could have been Apple. In fact, if I remember my PC history correctly, if not for a single missed meeting, IBM might have chosen CP/M as its operating system. A few of the particulars might have been consequently different in business history, but I think the outline of something like Microsoft would still loom over the PC landscape, doing most of the same things they do.
Doctor Zero on July 13, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Dr.Z, for what it’s worth, it seems I owe you an apology. I take back my hasty condemnation of your writing skills; this post has clearly proven me wrong. This is as insightful as anything I’ve read in a long while.
Caiwyn on July 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM
When you put it that way, it sounds rather daunting. After all, for any government to be able to police interstate, let alone multinational, corporations, it will need bureaucrats, inspectors, auditors, and agents; just adding that infrastructure onto the behemoth that is the modern military, and you’ve created a giant pool of resources in Washington that will beg for manipulation and corruption. Not as big as now, granted, but big enough. Small Government overseeing Big Business sounds good, but qui custodiet ipsos custodiens?
Of course, as I’m writing this, one ameliorating factor suggests itself: Properly speaking, the federal government should only regulate the interstate and multinational aspects of the business. The actual financial auditing, product inspection, etc., should be performed by the states wherein the corporation does business. Sort of the Eliot Spitzer model, redone with some sense of proportion.
loneloc on July 13, 2009 at 11:40 PM
I suggest that this model is more apt; a government that attempts to regulate all aspects of American life cannot do anything well…least of all those things that most need doing.
A small government, charged with a very few essential functions and given a set of simple mandates, is much more likely to do them well.
As an attorney, I can assure you that much of Federal and state anti-trust law has little or nothing to do with effective restriction of anti-competitive activity.
Ragspierre on July 13, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Peggy? Is that you?
I confess I haven’t had time to read through all the comments that posted on “A Seemingly Very Nice Middle-Class Girl” over the weekend, so I did some searching just now to find yours, and… ouch. It’s very gracious of you to offer such kind words now, and I deeply appreciate it. I’m honored I was able to write something more to your taste!
Doctor Zero on July 13, 2009 at 11:53 PM
It could have been, but unlike Microsoft, Apple decided on a proprietary hardware and software platform. While Apple hoped to make a fortune by creating a barrier around their platform for hardware and software producers to overcome at great expense, (paid to Apple), Microsoft opened up their OS to hardware and software producers everywhere so that anyone could participate. As a result, the software/hardware choices on the PC platform flourished, thanks to Microsoft, while Apple stagnated and nearly died out.
MS took a free market approach while Apple, protectionist.
FloatingRock on July 13, 2009 at 11:59 PM
That’s something like what I had in mind. Another disadvantage to Big Government is that it’s difficult for voters to exercise any sort of reasonable precision in their votes. When the government does thousands of things, and you’ve only got a couple of candidates to choose from – even if the wildest dreams of the third-party enthusiasts come true – how does the electorate cast votes that accurately express its desires? A smaller government is inherently more transparent… and at a certain level of smallness and transparency, we watch the watchmen. That’s not even theoretically the case now, so any step in that direction is bound to be an improvement.
Before I toddle off to bed, I wanted to ask if you’d care to elaborate on these cases a bit for us. They sound intriguing. I see a lot about them on the Web… a synopsis would be welcome.
Doctor Zero on July 14, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Hmmm… maybe that’s part of the reason so may leftists hate MS so much and love Apple.
FloatingRock on July 14, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Microsoft is a very poor example, because of the way it can use barrier-to-entry.
Let us say that one day you opened an account at a new bank. Soon thereafter you wrote a check and sent it to someone for payment. The recipient deposited the check in their bank, but when their bank presented it to your bank, the Bank of MicroSoft, the BoMS refused to pay it, demanding instead that the party you are trying to pay either open their own account at the BoMS (paying high fees) or accept payment in change, which they will have to cart to their own bank, count, and deposit (waiting while the teller counts it for deposit).
This is like giving data to a Microsoft application. Those applications store data in their own formats and those formats are proprietary. The new policy of XML-based formatting will help only a little; it is like getting an unknown language in the latin alphabet rather than a mysterious script. You know know what the letters and words are, but you still don’t know what they mean–exactly and precisely what they mean, to a logical certainty, beyond all ambiguity, idiom, and special case, because nothing less will do.
Once you have given data to Microsoft applications, those who are to read it must pay the Microsoft tax. And Microsoft’s dominant position means that it will take something equally big, perhaps Google, to break its stranglehold on the market.
njcommuter on July 14, 2009 at 12:12 AM
It gets to the heart of what Dr.Z says in the essay. They see MS’s product as inferior and Apple’s as superior, yet MS has over 90% market share. What they refuse to admit is that their concept of superiority is shaped by their own wants and needs, and fails to take into account the wants and needs of the rest of the market. For many years, Apple built a more expensive product with less third-party support. They offered a more stable, cohesive, and simpler operating system, but many people preferred the cheaper and more customizable alternatives.
Of course, now that computers and gadgets have gotten more complex, more and more people place a higher value on simplicity and ease of use, and Apple’s profitability is going through the roof. It’s the market at work.
Caiwyn on July 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM
really getting sick of big govt VS big business, when the two walk hand-in-hand. Whichever happens to be descendant at the moment does the bidding of whichever is ascendant. How about this: Liberty vs big govt -and- big business.
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wkgdyw on July 14, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Then you have a choice: you can frequent Microsoft compatible banks and take advantage of the robust list of features and benefits or use one of their no thrills competitors and save a nickel.
The only reason it’s a tough choice is because they make so many great products at reasonable prices, since the earliest days, that their products are very popular.
FloatingRock on July 14, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Sounds like PC mfg’s are simply responding to market demand, and making a sound economic decision by choosing the cheapest licensing option. If there were more consumer demand for Linux based OS’s running on PC’s, there would be more offered as a standard option.
Why do I have to have a Delco radio in my GM car when I buy it from the factory?
Why can’t I buy a Pepsi at McDonald’s? Why don’t they give me a choice?
why can’t I get the Tivo OS on my TimeWarner DVR?
Why can’t I get NFL Sunday Ticket on the DishNetwork?
Fed45 on July 14, 2009 at 12:44 AM
Yes, I like this argument, but I think Doctor Zero’s article is most valid when directed at liberals. The debates on HA are a bit over their heads.
The liberal solutions to corporatism are fraught with ulterior motives — unionism, simple shake-downs, greenie legal mayhem. Yet I’ve seen some things, disturbing observations, that I believe ordinary citizens who call themselves liberals see as well.
To a certain point, large corporations are advantaged by high taxes and insufferable regulations. Chain corporations destroy small businesses and feed a sense of powerlessness and disconnect in our society. A small businessman must face his customers in a way corporate executives do not. The local businessman lives in his community and doesn’t claim status above his customers/neighbors. The subtleties of these connections are greater than a bottom line.
A Big Problem with Big Business in California is the collective support of higher taxes and more regulation. The small businessman strangles on these things while huge companies with deep pockets create their own structures to deal with it.
Contrary to popular myth, many corporate honchos are leftists. No less a figure than Rush Limbaugh made the same observation.
It is corporatism that angers and depresses people, not capitalism. Riding along with the good people who build great businesses is a rotten corporate elite — a rootless class as detached from ordinary Americans as our political ruling class. It offends common decency to see a lousy executive run a company into the ground, fire hundreds of people, and get rewarded no matter what. Then he jets off to the next gig, griping about the backward yokels.
The thing I remember most about Microsoft’s problems in the ’90s was the Netscape browser and vendor complaints of being bullied not to install it on new machines or MS would refuse to license Windows to them. MS embedded its own browser and understood that most people are not geeks
and wouldn’t download Netscape themselves. Much of the government’s case appeared ridiculous and over their pay-scale, but what did anyone expect? I never bought into the notion that it happened just because MS didn’t lobby enough in D.C. Power corrupts — even well earned economic power. It was one those times I was at odds with popular conservative opinion.
I believe in a renewed look at the role of government in curbing corporate excesses far greater than the Gilded Age at least, or a fundamental re-examination of corporatism at most. Another commenter mentioned that a lot of this can be farmed out to individual states.
The corporation is a legal invention of the 19th Century. As useful as it is, there are serious problems with it, and I no longer confuse it with capitalism or a free market.
Feedie on July 14, 2009 at 4:01 AM
The title is bogus. Big Government vs, Big Business implies an antagonism that, quite frankly, does not exist. Microsoft may not be able to force you to buy something per se, but it can get the government to regulate its competition to death so that it’s the only game in town.
Lehosh on July 14, 2009 at 4:47 AM
I guess one could say Microsoft is a monopoly if you didn’t understand that Mac existed or that for every program that MSFT makes there is a free/open source Linux version.
Great article Doc.
We have moved from self sufficiency to dependence on credit from the company store.
16 tons and what do you get?
TheSitRep on July 14, 2009 at 6:28 AM
Dr. Zero. Great, great great article. Thank you. There can never be enough of these intellectual arguments so thoughtfully spelled out. Wonderful.
Norbitz on July 14, 2009 at 6:37 AM
Cheating used to be their specialty. Not so much anymore, but at one time they were the masters (having learned well from IBM). They have leaned on computer publications to change the results of reviews and product comparisons, and they got away with it because they were the biggest source of advertising. They have deliberately ruined the careers of journalists who were critical of them. Microsoft used to be the prime example of fascist corporate behavior. It’s not so bad under Ballmer, although he’s had his bad moments.
They used to have various ways to “force” people to buy their product instead of competition. One way was to charge OEMs for a copy of Windows for every computer they sold, even if it didn’t include Windows on it. Since computer OEMs had to pay Microsoft for every computer they sold no matter what, they would have to pay twice to sell any other OS.
They also used contract law to prevent people from selling competition. That was Gates’ specialty. He was never a technical genius – he was quite the amateur in that area. But he was a brilliant contract law genius.
Daggett on July 14, 2009 at 7:09 AM
For all these years I have never purchased nor used a Microsoft product. I’ve been a Mac person for 18 years and have never even had the need to use Office, so may computing life has been relatively hassle-free.
Still, I admire Microsoft if only for the entertainment value it provides in its corporate moves. Also, they have laid out an excellent blueprint in how not to devise an operating system!
Logic on July 14, 2009 at 7:43 AM
Govts only care to satisfy 50%+1 of the population. If they can do it by sacrificing the other 49+%, then so be it.
Businesses on the other hand continue to make money even after there market share exceeds 50%.
This makes a huge difference in how companies and govts treat individual.
For business, the customer is always right, and they have huge depts with the sole goal of keeping the customer happy.
Govt on the other hand couldn’t care less about one person, or one person’s problems.
MarkTheGreat on July 14, 2009 at 8:02 AM
Microsoft has done neither. It has tied various of it’s products together in a single package, but it can’t force you to buy that package.
MarkTheGreat on July 14, 2009 at 8:04 AM
Comapanies cannot impose tariffs. They can and do buy politicians and have them impose the tariffs.
This is not an argument against business, but rather an argument against giving govt the power to impose tariffs.
MarkTheGreat on July 14, 2009 at 8:06 AM
BS, there is a huge difference between big gov and big bus, as pointed out in the article.
The problem with big bus buying of the ref is to not give govt the power to be the ref.
Private, competing inspection agencies (ala UL) can serve this role much better then govt ever could.
MarkTheGreat on July 14, 2009 at 8:09 AM
Eh, I’m pretty sure “Big Government” was around way before then. If you’re speaking directly to Big Government in the US sense, then sure, it’s been around on a short time, but then again so has the US.
ballz2wallz on July 14, 2009 at 8:13 AM
It was the open approach that resulted in many of the problems that people blamed Microsoft for.
MS opened it’s OS, which meant that anyone could write code for it, they even opened up the internals which meant that anyone could write a driver for MS. Unfortunately, many of the people writing those code and drivers, had no business being in the same room as a compiler, much less using one.
Early MS had few protections against rogue programs. What few people remember was that the first version of MS was designed to fit on a single 128K floppy and operate in just a few K of memory. No room for fancy protections.
As computers grew, so did MS, and despite the claims of some, MS did make a commitment that each new release of MS would break as few existing programs as possible.
This resulted in them not eliminating some of the mistakes, or design shortcomings that they inherited from the original versions.
MS continues to improve, but it still suffers from 30 years of legacy code that they have to support, and from trying to be an OS that is all things to all people.
And no, I have never worked for MicroSoft.
MarkTheGreat on July 14, 2009 at 8:20 AM
This is not true, there are dozens of small companies that specialize in reverse engineering MS data formats and writting code that can read it.
MarkTheGreat on July 14, 2009 at 8:22 AM
Demanding that MS sell it’s OS with all the features (browser, de-fragger, etc.) removed makes as much sense as demanding that Detroit only sell cars without radios, front seats, and steering wheels.
MarkTheGreat on July 14, 2009 at 8:26 AM
I can see why this happens, but conservatives who are not intimately familiar with the ways of Microsoft have the knee-jerk reaction to defend the company. It’s not just Microsoft, but this applies to companies like Monsanto, too.
The irony is that a handful of companies, and only a handful, are corporate mirror images of the Obama administration. They achieve their success through intimidation, assassinating the character of their detractors, cheating, trickery, fake grass-roots movements (astroturfers), stealing the work of others, legal hi-jinks, buying out politicians, etc. Whether by accident or design, they follow the Alinsky method of rules for radicals every bit as much as the Obama administration. There are many extremely successful companies out there that are to be admired for how they got to be successful. Microsoft is not one of them.
Microsoft does some great work NOW, but they didn’t get where they are through honest hard work and innovation.
Daggett on July 14, 2009 at 8:31 AM
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