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By: Karl

Karl — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:12:19 +0000

Although I agree with some of your general questioning of the usefulness of the term, poll respondents don’t have to give the answer they give to the local registrar, either. I do think that the numbers above are useful insofar as any gullible Republicans who apporved of Obama probably do not approve of him now. Thus, the next bloc to watch are the people who ID as independent b/c they are not comfy IDing as GOP. That’s who Obama is losing now, and moving further across the spectrum as things get worse.

By: jeanie

jeanie — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:22:11 +0000

Find it hard to take seriously any poll that uses the terminology ‘independent’ voters. Many, many people here in NH are registered as undeclared(indies)(I am)because the state has open primaries and, quite frankly, it’s useful to be registered as an indie. Right and lefts register this way as a common practive. When it comes to polls , they support their preference. Many , if not most of these do not swivel back and forth between Parties, though the indie term may give that impression, so any poll here that has an expectation that they will do so is most likely flawed and says little about voters here. I wonder if this is true in other states with open primaries?

By: John the Libertarian

John the Libertarian — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:48:05 +0000

Thanks, Karl.

And here I thought Rasmussen was by far the most accurate in presidential elections.

My evidence is only anecdotal, but Messiah seems to be dropping like a stone among Obama voters. I can’t see him riding out the Fall with these abysmal economic indicators. And Fall is only 6 short weeks away…

By: Karl

Karl — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:59:22 +0000

JtL,

I’m pretty sure you’re referring to Rasmussen, which also polls likely voters.

That was the start of this conversation, but the MSM tends to distrust Rasmussen. And it was a single poll. That his results are being replicated by Quinnipiac, and even a Dem firm like PPP is what’s causing more people to take note. State polling (as opposed to national polling) is also important, given that this is how elections are ultimately conducted.

By: John the Libertarian

John the Libertarian — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:53:08 +0000

I thought I saw a poll two weeks ago that he’d dropped 14 points and below 50 percent among Independents…?