The US is now Mirandizing high-value detainees?

posted at 2:29 pm on June 10, 2009 by

The Weekly Standard reports:

[T]he Obama Justice Department has quietly ordered FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high value detainees captured and held at U.S. detention facilities in Afghanistan, according a senior Republican on the House Intelligence Committee. “The administration has decided to change the focus to law enforcement. Here’s the problem. You have foreign fighters who are targeting US troops today – foreign fighters who go to another country to kill Americans. We capture them…and they’re reading them their rights – Mirandizing these foreign fighters,” says Representative Mike Rogers, who recently met with military, intelligence and law enforcement officials on a fact-finding trip to Afghanistan.

Rogers, a former FBI special agent and U.S. Army officer, says the Obama administration has not briefed Congress on the new policy…

Can’t imagine why that would be. Although it sounds like a bad joke, Rep. Rogers notes that it would fit in with Obama’s “Global Justice Initiative.” It also fits in with Obama’s general pattern of neutering the CIA.

As Gary Schmitt wrote when news of the “Global Justice Initiative” first surfaced:

The idea that we should return to the “good ol’ days” when the core of our counterterrorism strategy was to arrest terrorists and put them on trial is an idea that should be thoroughly debated before we head back down that road. Lest anyone forget, the first World Trade Center bombing—which only by luck did not result in hundreds or possibly thousands dying—happened on the FBI’s watch and while DOJ and FBI officials were worried about building a court case against the plotters. And of course the ’90s saw al Qaeda and terrorists kill hundreds in attacks against Americans with the bombings of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the USS Cole. The question someone should ask is: how many died on 9/11 and before when the FBI was taking the lead in counterterrorism, and how many have died since?

We can hope Rep. Rogers was misinformed in Afghanistan, but this policy seems all-too-plausible, coming from the Obama administration.

Update: “Now, do these folks deserve Miranda rights? Do they deserve to be treated like a shoplifter down the block? Of course not.” (h/t thegoldfarb.)

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This is an excellent anti-terror strategy.

Terrorists all over the world are having heart attacks and strokes from riotous and uncontrollable laughter.

Daggett on June 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM

Yep. The War on Terror is over.

It is now the “Global Interagency Law Enforcement Initiative” and the newly-expanded FBI will be sending out experienced agents [read ACORN alumni] to integrate right down to the squad level with each deployed US military unit to make sure that any future battlefield captees will be properly Mirandized and all evidence bagged and tagged in the field, and individual depositions taken, and sent back to Washington so each captee can have a fair trial when they reach the US a day or two later.

You didn’t get the memo on this one, I presume. /s

coldwarrior on June 10, 2009 at 3:15 PM

Another day… another appeasement.. (like we didn’t see this coming?)

SDPlissken on June 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Two things leap out at me…

If we are Mirandizing POWs… and its the FBI?

Then the FBIs mandate is now worldwide.

Which can only come about if the US is now declaring worldwide primacy of US Law and Constitutional Rights.

Isn’t it… intresting… that they give Consitutional Rights to foreign fighters in a Foreign land… yet take them away from Americans, in America (destroying private property and the rule of law).

Romeo13 on June 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Isn’t it… intresting… that they give Consitutional Rights to foreign fighters in a Foreign land who aren’t even covered by the Geneva Convention… yet take them away from Americans, in America (destroying private property and the rule of law).

Romeo13 on June 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM

FIFY

Daggett on June 10, 2009 at 4:35 PM

If we had a Congress with brains and backbone, Obama would be impeached, arrested and tried as a traitor.

Daggett on June 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM

I find this hilarious. Remember the 9/11 commission? They said something to the effect ‘they were at war with us, we were not at war with them’

Bears repeating over and over again. My greatest fear is the next big one will be nuclear.

tarpon on June 10, 2009 at 6:53 PM

A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.
abraham_lincoln

Americannodash on June 10, 2009 at 7:17 PM

Heard Rep Rogers on Mark Levin this evening. So thankful that he is speaking out. This administration continues to put our troops and our nation at risk. Dissent is building. I have faith that the American people will wake up to this soon and see that this is not the change they were hoping for.

frank58 on June 10, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Just a thought, since our military is in now what seems to be a law enforcement service, are they unionized? Do they get to unionize? Do they get sick time, full retirement benefits? Do they get overtime? If they are in the law enforcement branch, why is their budget being cut? If the FBI is overseeing these actions, are they now under the FBI? If they are under the FBI, what are they doing in a foreign country? Just asking.

N4646W on June 11, 2009 at 10:27 AM

My question is this – Obama was against the use of enhanced interrogation techniques – even though he admits we got information from detainees that saved American lives using them.

But he says we could have gotten that information using other methods. He didn’t elaborate on what those methods were.

But now my question is – if Obama is planing on using “other methods” – what methods would those be considering he’s telling the detainees from second one that they have a right to remain silent and that, if they open their mouth – things could get worse for them?

It seems to me – that if you give a guy a right to remain silent – then you are completely surrendering any opportunity to gain valuable information from him. So how would Obama’s “other” methods work? They won’t.

The only thing I can see – is perhaps he plans to “plea bargain” with these idiots if they give up information. That’s ridiculous on it’s face. KSM nor the other two who were waterboarded would have given up any information in return for a plea bargain.

Can we now pronounce Obama’s “other methods” as pure political hogwash?

He should just come out say that he believes so strongly in human rights (even for terrorists) – that’s he’s willing to allow thousands, millions of Americans to die before he’ll soil America’s reputation by pouring water on a detainee.

Own it.

HondaV65 on June 12, 2009 at 7:16 AM