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UN Finds More Uranium in Syria?

posted at 3:33 pm on June 5, 2009 by

Well, at least they are looking, right?

[ Before (top) and after (bottom) shots of the Syrian covert nuclear facility built with North Korean assistance bombed by the Israelis in September 2007. ]

Going back to my nuclear fuel-cycle classes years ago, each batch of enriched uranium has markers in it that can be followed back to the point of origin, provided the producer of the uranium is operating under the aegis of the IAEA or the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

According to the Associated press, The U.N nuclear agency on Friday reported its second unexplained find of uranium particles at a Syrian nuclear site, in a probe sparked by suspicions that a remote desert site hit by Israeli warplanes was a nearly finished plutonium producing reactor.

The referenced article is short on Syrian details, but goes into a lengthy discourse about Iran.

A couple of questions do come to mind.  First, is this uranium from the former Saddam Hussein regime?  Or, is it from North Korea?  While the article goes into detail about Iran, Iran hasn’t any good reason to be sending uranium off to Syria.  They have enough already on hand to eventually produce several nuclear devices, and their present production rates indicate that they will have even more by year’s end.

And plutonium producing reactor?  Not something one needs to have on hand to produce electricity.  [And, as the photos attest, there is no "grid" in evidence to transfer electric power from the former reactor to anywhere else in Syria.  So the canards about it being a peaceful nuclear energy site were simply lies.]

Thus back to the first questions.  If this uranium can be traced back to the former Saddam regime…will the IAEA go to the lengths necessary to determine that?  And if it is found to be from Saddam’s cache, can we put to bed once and for all that tired meme that Saddam had no WMD’s?

And, if it is from North Korea, can we start looking deeper into the Syrian regime yet?  Or is Syria off limits under the present Administration?  Can we get serious about North Korea’s exporting nuclear technology to nations with a history of unsavory behaviors?

The UN puts out this info on a Friday?  By Monday, it will be forgotten history.

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Might could just be penguin poop.

happyfeet on June 5, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Thanks, happyfeet, for that informative link. Learned something new today. :-)

That “penguin poop” thing reminded me of the debacle over “Yellow Rain” back in the 1980′s…wherein the Soviets had provided a number of countries chemical agents to use against recalcitrant populations…mycotoxins…and TASS, the Soviet News Organization, in conjunction with the KGB, produced “press placements” in hundreds of worldwide newspapers showing that the so-called mycotoxins were chemicals similar to those found in bee excrement…”yellow rain” became known as Bee Pee, and the Reagan Administration had its first lesson in how persuasive a directed press can be when it comes to bashing down aa controversial issue, in this case, “Yellow Rain.”

Still seems odd that the IAEA is finding more traces of uranium at a nuclear facility that was not yet complete nor anywhere close to being on line…so, why was there uranium at a not-yet-completed reactor? Not just the buildings, but the reactor itself? The normal method is to place fissile uranium into the reactor after it has been fully built, and all the safeguards, SCRAM systems and the like, are installed and properly tested.

coldwarrior on June 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I think that this is a good case for showing that Saddam Hussein sent his WMDs across the border to Syria before the invasion took place.

maggieo on June 5, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Would this not make the story the former Iraqi general, or colonel reported ring true? I thought he said Saddam had planes stripped down so they could fly some of the WMD material out of the country, and there are those pictures of the large trucks heading towards Syria.

If there is anything to prove it is connected to Saddam, you can bet it will be covered up to the max. At the very least this proves why Iran cannot go nuclear anything.

What ever happened with those 40,000 boxes of documents from Iraq that people were supposed to be deciphering? I just knew something was going to be found in them to prove the existence of WMD. Not to mention info that would incriminate China, Russia, France and Germany.

The world today seems to be on fire. It certainly seems poised to no longer resemble anything most of us would recognize as normal.

freeus on June 5, 2009 at 6:31 PM

Still seems odd that the IAEA is finding more traces of uranium at a nuclear facility that was not yet complete nor anywhere close to being on line…so, why was there uranium at a not-yet-completed reactor? Not just the buildings, but the reactor itself? The normal method is to place fissile uranium into the reactor after it has been fully built, and all the safeguards, SCRAM systems and the like, are installed and properly tested.

coldwarrior on June 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM
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The facility was significantly larger than just a reactor, and enriched uranium is not something the Syrians want to leave just laying around. Even a blind pig like ElBaradei will find the occasional truffle… better to store it onsite but in separate containers, each small enough or properly insulated to prevent spontaneous reaction.

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acat on June 6, 2009 at 7:34 AM

If there is anything to prove it is connected to Saddam, you can bet it will be covered up to the max. At the very least this proves why Iran cannot go nuclear anything.

What ever happened with those 40,000 boxes of documents from Iraq that people were supposed to be deciphering? I just knew something was going to be found in them to prove the existence of WMD. Not to mention info that would incriminate China, Russia, France and Germany.

freeus on June 5, 2009 at 6:31 PM

To answer your first statement, to the Left, Iraq under Saddam was totally gultless of anything. And they are absolutely the only country in the world that never had any connection to al Qaeda. Repeat: they are the only country in the world that could never have a relationship with bin Laden. If you believe that, you believe that at admitted perjurer was a “great” President.

As for the document translations, the US government didn’t have enough translators to decipher them all. They were for a time put online so amateurs could pitch in, but the Pentagon pulled the plug after some potentially serious stuff got translated, namely how to make nuclear weapons.

Before they pulled the plug, however, a blogger who calls himself “jveritas” translated enough to prove that Saddam was in the WMD business up to his eyebrows.

Read his work here:

http://iraqdocs.blogspot.com/

Del Dolemonte on June 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM

duh. the average soldier returning from Iraq (and i do not want to demean our soldiers) will tell you that the WMDs went to Syria. i’m referring to the soldier who were in the original invasion or very soon after the fall of Baghdad.

kelley in virginia on June 6, 2009 at 6:38 PM

Read his work here:

http://iraqdocs.blogspot.com/

Del Dolemonte on June 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Damned interesting stuff…amazing info. Thank you for the link.

coldwarrior on June 6, 2009 at 7:31 PM

I do not recall saying anything about Al Qaeda. I also never mentioned anything about the former Administration. But, to the Left, you cannot talk about any of this without injecting one or both into the mix. And do not forget, Abu Nidal was never in Iraq either! No terrorist of any stripe was ever in Iraq.

This might also something to be concerned about.
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/Sciences/Chemistry/NuclearChemistry/NuclearWeapons/FirstChainReaction/TypesofNuclear/CobaltBombs.htm

And as to the documents, a friend said they are in Qatar, known as Project HARMONI, unless of course they have been moved.

Thanks for the link to the work.

And there are still no published or finished reports on WMD found around Nasariya. The Able Danger, John Loftus findings come to mind.

freeus on June 7, 2009 at 6:33 PM