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Media Statistic of the Day

posted at 8:18 am on June 2, 2009 by

A little food for thought from Newsbusters:

At the time of this writing, there are nearly 7,000 references to “George Tiller” in Google News.

There are under 500 for “William Long.”

George Tiller, of course, was the Kansas abortion doctor murdered Sunday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.

William Long was the 23-year-old military recruiter murdered Monday morning by a man who allegedly had political and religious motives.

George Tiller dedicated his life to killing fetuses.

William Long dedicated his to killing terrorists.

One story still has ‘legs,’ the other is yesterday’s news. Nice priorities you’ve got there, MSM.

Someone has already commented on Twitter saying Tiller was a public figure, while the soldier was not. Granted, but how often are US soldiers murdered on US soil by a terror suspect?

Update – With this, I’m not trying to condemn one killer while praising another. Scott Roeder is a criminal and nothing justifies the murder of Dr. Tiller.

What bothers me is the willingness of the media to smear the entire pro-life movement based on Roeder’s actions while devoting very little airtime or newspaper space to the national security implications of William Long’s murder.

Update II – Ace of Spades HQ blogger DrewM makes an interesting point on Twitter. When Dr. Tiller was murdered, the White House released a statement on Sunday afternoon. As of 11:15 a.m. EST, the Commander in Chief has yet to release a statement condemning the murder of a member of the armed forces by a suspected terrorist.

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Nicely stated! One man was a monster, celebrated by Liberals; the other man was an American warrior, loathed by Liberals.

Keemo on June 2, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Why was George Tiller labeled an Abortion Doctor and security promptly ordered to Abortion clinics instead of being labeled a “Christian Gunned Down in a Place of Worship” and security ordered to protect all Churches?

cntrlfrk on June 2, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Love the smell of objectivity in the morning.

heshtesh on June 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM

This is to be expected. One fits their template and advances their agenda, the other does not. The media is almost a wing of the Obama administration. I honestly don’t think it’d change anything if he bailed them out and took them over.

Kronos on June 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM

i once had a professor that ranted back near 9/11 that pro-lifers were the “american taliban”

one time i told him there had been a total of 7 abortion doctors killed in a country with 300,000,000 people and 250,000,000 guns since Roe v. wade, versus the 3,000 from a single day of 9/11 alone

he rolled his eyes and said “you just dont get it”

*OUT OF TOUCH*

battleoflepanto1571 on June 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Why was George Tiller labeled an Abortion Doctor and security promptly ordered to Abortion clinics instead of being labeled a “Christian Gunned Down in a Place of Worship” and security ordered to protect all Churches?

cntrlfrk on June 2, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Because Christians are the suck and Abortionists are awesome of course.

Kronos on June 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM

We’re already starting to see the headlines: “Doc shooting puts pro-lifers on defensive”.

For once it would be refreshing to see “Soldier shooting puts anti-war moonbats on defensive.”

Reminds me of a Doug Stanhope bit where a guy has two beers then gets into an auto accident with a senile 105 year old WW1 veteran who swears he saw Jesus beckoning him home, and the headline reads “Drunk Driver Kills War Hero”.

TheMightyMonarch on June 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Someone has already commented on Twitter saying Tiller was a public figure, while the soldier was not. Granted, but how often are US soldiers murdered on US soil by a terror suspect?

I don’t think the reason one story has legs and the other one doesn’t has much to do with the issues of abortion versus the military. I think you’d agree that if a high profile military commander were assassinated that story would be covered much more, and if a random abortion clinic worker (or even doctor) were murdered it would be covered much less.

By the way, because Tiller was a public figure, his name is much more likely to be part of a story, and certainly more likely to be part of a headline. You might want to also point out that “recruiter shooting” and similar search terms also yield little more than 500 results.

tneloms on June 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Liberal values.

As of a few minutes ago, the ratio was getting a little better: 1,037 to 5,732.

Yet, while there are plenty of “human interest” pieces on George Tiller, I can find no biographical material at all from the MSM about William Long. He is simply presented as a name, a victim, not a human being with interests, goals, friends, family, history of serving his country.

And most shameful, not a single word about William Long from his Commander-in-Chief.

Loxodonta on June 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM

I wonder if the recruitment shooting is ignored because the shooter is a recent Muslim convert (or just Muslim for that matter).

Weebork on June 2, 2009 at 10:34 AM

On Hotair.com, a post about George Tiller’s murder drew 506 comments in 2 hours. The post on William Long’s murder drew 322 comments in its first two hours. In a perfect world, William Long would be celebrated with same the passion that George Tiller elicits from his supporters and detractors. In the real world, a controversial public figure like George Tiller will draw significantly more media attention every time.

RightOFLeft on June 2, 2009 at 10:37 AM

If they DID report on Long, doubt they would even mention “Muslim”…maybe Big O should just ban that word too….or did he already?

deedtrader on June 2, 2009 at 10:38 AM

If a Christian extremist had killed the recruiter it would be MAJOR news.

A Muslim jihadist … not so much.

You have to know the AGENDA.

profitsbeard on June 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM

On Hotair.com, a post about George Tiller’s murder drew 506 comments in 2 hours. The post on William Long’s murder drew 322 comments in its first two hours. In a perfect world, William Long would be celebrated with same the passion that George Tiller elicits from his supporters and detractors. In the real world, a controversial public figure like George Tiller will draw significantly more media attention every time.

RightOFLeft on June 2, 2009 at 10:37 AM

You’ll need to subtract out the troll comments from the Tiller post to make it a fair comparison, which by my estimation leaves the Long post ahead by a mile.

It’s pretty tough to call a soldier a baby killer on one thread, and then defend a real baby killer on another, at the same time. This explains the dearth of trolling on the Long thread.

BobMbx on June 2, 2009 at 10:46 AM

O’Relly was firing back today, asking if NBC, Olberman, or Kos are to blame for the soldier’s death. All that villification of Gitmo and the U.S. military (at higher volume and frequency than Fox News ever did with Tiller the Killer). What’s good for the goose….

Let’s see if Olberman apologizes tonight for the death of the soldier.

I’m sure the Lib Chickshanks will find a way to blame it on Bush.

EMD on June 2, 2009 at 10:48 AM

“Governor Palin Statement on William Long

“The stories of two very different lives with similar fates crossed through the media’s hands yesterday – both equally important but one lacked the proper attention. The death of 67-year old George Tiller was unacceptable, but equally disgusting was another death that police believe was politically and religiously motivated as well.

William Long died yesterday. The 23-year old Army Recruiter was gunned down by a fanatic; another fellow soldier was wounded in the ambush. The soldiers had just completed their basic training and were talking to potential recruits, just as my son, Track, once did.

Whatever titles we give these murderers, both deserve our attention. Violence like that is no way to solve a political dispute nor a religious one. And the fanatics on all sides do great disservice when they confuse dissention with rage and death.”

Governor Sarah Palin”

http://www.sarahpac.com/news/news33.aspx

hrh40 on June 2, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Remember… the war on terror is over. The war on right wing extremism has just begun.

LibTired (KO) on June 2, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I wonder if the recruitment shooting is ignored because the shooter is a recent Muslim convert (or just Muslim for that matter).

Weebork on June 2, 2009 at 10:34 AM

It’s worse than that.

He’s a black Muslim, that shot someone in Little Rock and was apparently linked to the extremist Muslim refugee elements in Nashville.

so

Black + Muslim + living as a minority in the horribly awful oppressive “white” South

=

media trifecta.

I long for the days when we simply had a crime and commented on how awful it was. But no, now we have the “does it fit the narrative” calculus, so Matthew Shepherd > Jesse Dirkhising

battleoflepanto1571 on June 2, 2009 at 10:52 AM

This is to be expected. One fits their template and advances their agenda, the other does not. The media is almost a wing of the Obama administration. I honestly don’t think it’d change anything if he bailed them out and took them over.
Kronos on June 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Remember: To err is human, to really screw things up get the government involved.

My guess is that the situation would actually improve – right now we have private entities working for profit with at least a passing desire to be efficient.

If the government took over it would become a massively inefficient bureaucracy trying to get the propaganda Bull ‘Shumer’ out to the sheeple, not to mention the clear lack of objectivity that only the most brain dead Fauxbamabots would have to acknowledge.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m advocating this, I’m just not sure that MSM can get any worse.

[And I fully expect to regret saying that in the near future]

Chainsaw56 on June 2, 2009 at 10:54 AM

one almost gets the feeling the media sympathizes with Muhammed.

Topsecretk9 on June 2, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Governor Sarah Palin”
http://www.sarahpac.com/news/news33.aspx
hrh40 on June 2, 2009 at 10:49 AM

This is not the Sarah Palin I know.

Oh, wait, it IS the Sarah Palin I know, just not the one the MSM allows us to see.

How much did those shoes cost, lady? Oh wait again, that was Michelle O.

DrAllecon on June 2, 2009 at 10:56 AM

If you control the language you control the debate. We cannot, and must not allow the Left/Dems to vilify the pro-life movement or Christians. To me, this is exactly what the media and Dems are doing with the death of Tiller. Meanwhile they are trying to hide the fact a Muslim convert killed an American citizen who was also part of our volunteer military by placing the story in the back pages of the N.Y. Times, or just not discussing the incident on the MSM tv programs.

The lack of a statement from Obama and the lag time in making a statement about the death of William Long is a clear insight to just exactly how he, and his Administration regards our military, and those who would desire harm to come to Americans. Perhaps that bow does not look so innocent now, and dittos to statements made in Turkey, giving much love to Abas and the PA, and totally flipping off Israel. Add to this the story today about the VOA being used by the Taliban, and a picture is being created for many Americans which makes us very uneasy when it comes to feeling protected from radical Islam or jihadists of the world.

Can you imagine 17 Chinese Muslims being let loose on American soil?

freeus on June 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM

7,000 – George Tiller dedicated his life to killing fetuses.

500 – William Long dedicated his to killing terrorists.

94,700 – Google hits for “James Byrd”

39,500 – Google hits for search “Matthew Shepherd”

1,810 – Google hits for “Channon Christian Christopher Newsom”

The American Media is nothing more or less than a propaganda machine.

Jaibones on June 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Update II

Even Rod Serling has left the building, this is just too insane.

abinitioadinfinitum on June 2, 2009 at 11:11 AM

In a perfect world, William Long would be celebrated with same the passion that George Tiller elicits from his supporters and detractors. In the real world, a controversial public figure like George Tiller will draw significantly more media attention every time.

LeftOFRight on June 2, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Your calculations are blinded by your leftist stupidity. I’m guessing 50% or more of the Tiller comments are about the hilarious disparity of media coverage. Nice try.

Kos is calling. Go, heal his pain.

Jaibones on June 2, 2009 at 11:13 AM

As of 11:15 a.m. EST, the Commander in Chief has yet to release a statement condemning the murder of a member of the armed forces by a suspected terrorist.

Having two sons serving, one headed to Afganeeston, and the other off the coast of Sooomolia, the thought of that despicable sack of shit being their CinC makes me physically sick to my stomach.

csdeven on June 2, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Thanks for this story Slub … I was thinking exactly this this morning when I heard reports that the soldier WAS targeted specifically because he’s a soldier by an American muslim.

Who was that hysterical Democratic wench that was saying that military folks are never the target of hate crimes?

HondaV65 on June 2, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Can you imagine 17 Chinese Muslims being let loose on American soil?

freeus on June 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Yes, I can, with the current moonbat adm.
LOCK and LOAD
target practice imminent

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on June 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Yet, while there are plenty of “human interest” pieces on George Tiller, I can find no biographical material at all from the MSM about William Long. He is simply presented as a name, a victim, not a human being with interests, goals, friends, family, history of serving his country.

Loxodonta on June 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM

You really don’t see why the murder of a national figure would yield more biographical material than the murder of a previously anonymous recruiter? The amount of biographical information has almost nothing to do with the issues of abortion versus military and everything to do with who these people were previously.

Your point about Obama’s lack of a statement is better.

tneloms on June 2, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Your calculations are blinded by your leftist stupidity. I’m guessing 50% or more of the Tiller comments are about the hilarious disparity of media coverage. Nice try.

Kos is calling. Go, heal his pain.

Jaibones on June 2, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Compare LeftofRight’s calm and completely reasonable comment to your angry and hyperbolic one.

Not to mention the fact that you didn’t even rebut his point with anything substantial other than “I’m guessing that…” There are plenty of comments in the recruiter shooting thread about the disparity in media coverage as well.

My personal impression is that on this site, the abortion murder as a story on its own (disregarding media coverage) was more sensational one than the military shooting on its own. I’d welcome a civil comment from you explaining why you disagree.

tneloms on June 2, 2009 at 12:15 PM

You really don’t see why the murder of a national figure would yield more biographical material than the murder of a previously anonymous recruiter?

tneloms on June 2, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Yes. I assume remembrances, honors and condolences being done privately, and are simply not being reported on line. Yet, I do wonder why no national or even Arkansas reporters are providing any background information about the victims. There’s nothing in the Arkansas press or any of the local web sites, even though the victims are local men.

To me, you don’t honor the fallen, or respect their families by remaining silent about them.

So, I hope more information will come out about them.

Loxodonta on June 2, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Why should we be concerned about two young military men being gunned down by a recent African American Islamic recruit? Why should it garner more news coverage than the murder of a late term abortion doctor (which is a stupid way to make a point I might add)? Because Islamic radicals are a little like the Brown Recluse spider: they’re aggressive, they corrupt what they bite, oftentimes they’re deadly, and where you see one many others lurk in the shadows. And this is definitely not the first time an American Military member has been targeted by someone strictly because he or she is in the military. You just haven’t heard about it. It isn’t newsworthy to the mainstream media when the “sheepdog” gets smacked down in some way unless it’s something that can be turned controversial against the military. There’s nothing controversial about the military to report here. Just 2 young men, doing their jobs, targeted because they wear a uniform that symbolizes what radical Islam detests: liberty, freedom, and the right to self-determination. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Attention: Military members reading this blog. You are respected more than you will ever know by people who will never have the opportunity to tell you. We grieve with you over the loss of one of your own. Be strong and very courageous.

Driefromseattle on June 2, 2009 at 12:34 PM

one time i told him there had been a total of 7 abortion doctors killed in a country with 300,000,000 people and 250,000,000 guns since Roe v. wade, versus the 3,000 from a single day of 9/11 alone

he rolled his eyes and said “you just dont get it”

*OUT OF TOUCH*

battleoflepanto1571 on June 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Is it really that few? I would have thought there would be a lot more just from random or unrelated killings. Or have those been weeded out?

Count to 10 on June 2, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Also ignored:

-Bombing of recruitment office in Times Square
-Arson with intent to block/kill people in burning church at the church of the Republican vice presidential candidate

and so on..and so on…

Wine_N_Dine on June 2, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Tiller’s death is indeed a tragedy and acts like this are counter productive to the pro-life movement’s goal of ending abortion within the framework of the rule of law.

Still waiting for a similar statement disowning the Muslim terrorist who shot those soldiers.

StubbleSpark on June 2, 2009 at 1:06 PM

How does this story not have bigger legs? Why hasn’t HotAir put this in the blog section?

Thanks for posting this, even if it is only in the green room.

matthew26 on June 2, 2009 at 1:14 PM

I wonder if the recruitment shooting is ignored because the shooter is a recent Muslim convert (or just Muslim for that matter).

Weebork on June 2, 2009 at 10:34 AM

BINGO!

Lourdes on June 2, 2009 at 6:48 PM