Andrew Sullivan giving himself whiplash on Obama

posted at 11:14 am on May 14, 2009 by

Is the thrill is gone for Excitable Andy? Yesterday, he turned on Our President with a lengthy screed on the issue of — wait for it — gay rights:

Here we are, in the summer of 2009, with gay servicemembers still being fired for the fact of their orientation. Here we are, with marriage rights spreading through the country and world and a president who cannot bring himself even to acknowledge these breakthroughs in civil rights, and having no plan in any distant future to do anything about it at a federal level. Here I am, facing a looming deadline to be forced to leave my American husband for good, and relocate abroad because the HIV travel and immigration ban remains in force and I have slowly run out of options (unlike most non-Americans with HIV who have no options at all). (Emphasis mine.)

(Apparently, someone left the “for better or worse” out of his gay marriage vows. But I digress.)

Anyway, that was posted on May 13, 2009, at 12:07 p.m. Approximately one hour later, Sully was ripping Obama’s decision to fight the release of detainee photos, summarily dismissing the notion that their release would endanger the troops. A half-hour later, he was calling Obama the “Neocon In Chief.” An hour and a half later, he was attacking Obama’s decision to curtail intelligence-sharing if the British High Court discloses new details of the treatment of a former Guantanamo detainee, writing “those of us who have tried to give Obama the benefit of the doubt must concede that there is no longer any benefit or any doubt.”

Just a day before his deportation diatribe, he was defending Obama’s decision to curtail intelligence-sharing. What a difference a day makes.

When Sullivan turned on the Bush Administration with a vengeance, many said it was due to Pres. Bush deciding to publicly support a Constitutional amendment which would have limited marriage in the US to unions of one man and one woman. Sullivan denied this, claiming that Abu Ghraib was what turned him. Yet we now see him turn on Pres. Obama less than four months into his presidency, and it is just sheer coincidence that Sullivan is filled with personal pique over Obama’s failure to save Sullivan’s gay marriage.

Sullivan likely realized how bad this looked (or got one of his famed e-mails tipping him to it), as he has since suggested that “it’s too early to write Obama off” on gay rights and that a “real judgment will be possible as his first term comes to an end.” But considering that Obama is unlikely to be impeached over any of Sullivan’s hobby horses, what option does Sullivan really have? It’s a non-concession concession.

Meanwhile, Sullivan is spending one day warning Obama that “covering up war crimes, refusing to proscute them, promoting those associated with them, and suppressing evidence of them are themselves violations of Geneva and the UN Convention,” while the next day defending Obama, arguing that our “soldiers deserve a chance to do their astonishingly difficult job without inflaming those who might be inspired to kill and attack them.” He sees “no reason to suspect that Obama is not genuine” about someday divulging all info on the interrogations, though there is every reason to suspect Obama and Sullivan are not genuine about it, given that Sullivan excuses Obama’s renditions policy. Apparently, it has not occurred to Sullivan that Obama may simply be caving to the CIA to protect himself and his party from damaging releases of information about their complicity in the interrogations.

I recognize that posts about the unhinged Sullivan usually prompt a smattering of comments wondering why anyone should care about his little rants. Thus, it is worth noting that he has one of the biggest blogs on the Internet. He accounts for well over half the traffic to The Atlantic’s website, which implies that he has hundreds of thousands of readers daily. He is still taken seriously by the establishment media, despite trafficking in bizarre conspiracy theories for years. And Pres. Obama reads his blog — and gets misinformed by it. Indeed, for all we know, Sullivan may be desperately bidding for attention in the hopes that Obama or one of his flunkies will exert influence regarding his immigration status. Regardless, it is worth noting the enabling of the Internet’s version of a sandwich board-wearing lunatic, spewing nonsense at random pedestrians.

Cross-posted to Patterico.

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Sorry, the rationales don’t work. Linking to Andy’s blog only increases its rank on search engines. Discussing his rants seriously only gives him undeserved credibility. Nothing you write will change him, or any of the morons who read his tripe.

corona on May 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Discussing his rants seriously only gives him undeserved credibility.

Only if you believe SE rankings = credibility.

Perhaps no one should be critical of Obama online either. It only enhances his credibility.

Karl on May 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Karl, great post as usual, but I think you left out the best part of Sullivan’s blog entry on Obama’s lack of interest in the gay agenda – the part that was quoted in the headlines yesterday.

I have a sickeningly familiar feeling in my stomach, and the feeling deepens with every interaction with the Obama team on these issues. They want them to go away. They want us to go away.

Sullivan was calling the O-Team out as rank homophobes.

Amidst all the prattle about the inevitable momentum of the gay cultural agenda, there’s something desperate and self-destructive going on there – Hilton, Sykes, and in a different way Sullivan.

CK MacLeod on May 14, 2009 at 12:33 PM

They want them to go away. They want us to go away.

Proof that Obama really IS a bipartisan uniter.

TheUnrepentantGeek on May 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Not the first time Andy’s given himself whiplash.

thirteen28 on May 14, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Isn’t whiplash torture?

andycanuck on May 14, 2009 at 5:28 PM

The man is completely nuts. The only thing that explains the whiplash of his position changing is his apparent inability to take his medication consistently.

outOfElement on May 14, 2009 at 7:40 PM

Why doesn’t Andy go to the UK?

Can’t you marry men, women, animals, objects there?

What is his problem?

Sapwolf on May 14, 2009 at 7:40 PM

Can’t you marry men, women, animals, objects there?

A coffee-table isn’t stupid enough to get involved with that loon.

outOfElement on May 14, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Buh, bye, Andy!

ICE – do your job!

Realist on May 14, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Andrew Seesaw.

Bipolar never tasted so good.

profitsbeard on May 14, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Apparently Sullivan is principled.

“Conservative” clowns preferred to first elect Bush under the banner of small government and international non-involvement, and then continued to support him when he did 180 on every single promise during his campaign.

If “conservatives” were half as principled as Sullivan is, we wouldn’t have the current bullsh*t in the White House.

radiofreevillage on May 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM

The coffee-table may not be stupid enough, but radiofreevillage apparently doesn’t have that problem.

outOfElement on May 14, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Butt-Boy “Conservative” Andy Sullivan – Far to the Left of Obama?

Jaibones on May 14, 2009 at 8:22 PM

Sullivan is an opportunistic lunatic who ends up arguing with his entire body of previous work everytime a subject of one of his crushes fails to take up the gay marriage banner.

If that is what radiofreevillage considers to be “principled,” I suggest he educate himself on the difference between methyl and ethyl alcohol, and to stop imbibing the former.

A Balrog of Morgoth on May 14, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Apparently Sullivan is principled.

If by “principled” you mean “unhinged”, then yes.

roscopico on May 14, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Apparently, it has not occurred to Sullivan that Obama may simply be caving to the CIA to protect himself and his party from damaging releases of information about their complicity in the interrogations.

So Sullivan is either dense or really stupid. I can’t tell if that is redundant is Sullivan redundant :)

Dr Evil on May 14, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Yes, if we had only listened to Andrew Sullivan, we would have invaded on Iraq after anthrax was delivered to Tom Daschle’s office in October 2001, perhaps even a nuclear attack.

Karl on May 14, 2009 at 8:49 PM

With Sullivan it is, always has been, and always will be about where he is allowed to put Lil’ Andy. He will sell out any principle in the service of that cause. And now he has sold out to the Donks, and they have used him and discarded him.

I’m so sorry for Andrew Sullivan… NOT!!!

gridlock2 on May 14, 2009 at 8:54 PM

What an ass. Obama has one job now: save the economy. If he fails at that there will be enormous suffering, far, far beyond the suffering you endure by

[not] being able to stay in the same apartment as [my] late spouse

Get your head out of your ass and figure out how to support him on the one issue that matters. And I say this as some one who thinks Obama is a cowardly ass-clown.

RWExtremist on May 14, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Sulluvan must be just regurgitating talking points. He must too have a teleprompter, no rhyme or reason simple words as he left and rights with words – and refusing the look America in the Eye.

Sounds like someone is getting worried about the Military.

seesalrun on May 14, 2009 at 9:24 PM

SulluvanSullivan must be just regurgitating talking points. He must too have a teleprompter, no rhyme or reason simple words as he left and rights with words – and refusing forgetting to the look America in the Eye.

Sounds like someone is getting worried about the Military.

Sorry I try to be so cool but didn’t preview.
I have to say with current events I am happier now than 1/20
The current events not only call for popcorn but Pepsi too.
seesalrun on May 14, 2009 at 9:24 PM

seesalrun on May 14, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Well, perhaps this is a trend – our friends at MSNBC accused him of being no better than GWB. Rachael Maddow was none too happy on his reversal on the photos release.

Queen0fCups on May 14, 2009 at 9:30 PM

Hell hath no fury like a gay man scorned. Just ask Olby.

bloggless on May 14, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Awwwwwww. We’re gonna miss you, Andy. Be sure to write, k?

Pablo on May 14, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I firmly believe that Andrew Sullivan has a constitutional right to a civil union with the STD of his choice. But marriage should be between one man and one woman, just like Barry and Carrie said.

I give both Andy and Perez a Zero.

Geochelone on May 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM

What kind of gay man would have self-esteem low enough to marry Andrew Sullivan?

Speedwagon82 on May 14, 2009 at 11:46 PM

Karl,

Don’t forget, there was a recent article (sorry, I forget where, but it was a reliable source) that Sullivan is attending weekly secret dinners that frequently include top members of the Obama administration like Rahm Emmanuel etc.

I don’t doubt for a second that Sullivan got a call or a meeting after his rants sweetalking him back into the mob.

American Elephant on May 14, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Anyone know the answers to this (I’m just curious): what is Andrew Sullivan’s citizenship and why has he been allowed to come and go into the U.S. as an HIV-positive individual?

He brays proudly about himself as being “wealthy” and somehow being above any struggles in that regard (as I read the first link, his “gay rights” tirade), but how is that possible and to/from where is he making is Passport-enabled trips?

Is he paying off customs agents or what? If not, why isn’t he stopped at the border as a foreign national (what it sounds like he is, though his prideful statements exclude mention of his nationality) and prevented from entering the U.S. as an HIV-positive individual?

Lourdes on May 15, 2009 at 12:04 AM

Thus, it is worth noting that he has one of the biggest blogs on the Internet. He accounts for well over half the traffic to The Atlantic’s website, which implies that he has hundreds of thousands of readers daily. He is still taken seriously by the establishment media

And yet somehow I’ve managed never to have seen his website, nor – as far as I know – to have read word he’s written … except where its been mocked by others.

I guess I am just blessed.

Professor Blather on May 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM

If Andrew is forced to leave the US, how can he continue his all-important Sarah Palin gynecological research?

Realist on May 15, 2009 at 1:52 AM

it was due to Pres. Bush deciding to publicly support a Constitutional amendment which would have limited marriage in the US to unions of one man and one woman.

Some homosexuals live quiet, dignified lives, accepting who they are and dealing with it. Activist homosexuals hate themselves and think the only way to stop hating themselves is to force acceptance on the rest of society. If tomorrow gay marriage was normalized in every state of the union, these hate-filled dysfunctional human beings would find another way to force their sex practices into all aspects of our society. They would probably start demanding quotas.

peacenprosperity on May 15, 2009 at 7:01 AM

In Sullivan’s defense, what’s wrong with turning on a President you strongly supported who you believe has betrayed positions you backed him for?

Rahm Emmanuel said from the start that Obama won’t be drawn into the gay rights debate in his first term because they feel that weakened Clinton. So the President’s position on this issue is all about political expediency and nothing about core values. The nudge-nudge wink-wink plan is to institute court mandated nationwide gay marriage in Obama’s second term. Everyone knows it so why not make them admit it?

In that respect I commend Sullivan for calling out Obama and demanding he show his true colors.

miles on May 15, 2009 at 8:08 AM

I wouldn’t be surprised if President Flip Flop reverses his decisions on DADT and gay marriage. If Sullivan is in this country illegally, I want him out.

Blake on May 15, 2009 at 8:20 AM