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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coldwarrior,

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have to wonder, BDS or no, if these people have given any serious thought to their demands for “justice?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No. Obviously not.  Which is why the idiocy with the Spanish magistrate gets rolling.  The Obama folk -- who know this is crap, and probably what a bad precedent would be set -- are just trying to get this off the domestic radar, in the hopes that the Sullivans of the world will eventually tire of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coldwarrior,</p>
<blockquote><p>I have to wonder, BDS or no, if these people have given any serious thought to their demands for “justice?”</p></blockquote>
<p>No. Obviously not.  Which is why the idiocy with the Spanish magistrate gets rolling.  The Obama folk &#8212; who know this is crap, and probably what a bad precedent would be set &#8212; are just trying to get this off the domestic radar, in the hopes that the Sullivans of the world will eventually tire of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CNN poll: Majority support waterboarding terrorists, 50/46</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/05/06/interrogation-investigations-are-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-5132</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CNN poll: Majority support waterboarding terrorists, 50/46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Karl says, interrogation investigations are a farce; fortunately, thanks to numbers like these, they&#8217;re not in the offing. One thing I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: coldwarrior</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/05/06/interrogation-investigations-are-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-5114</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Bolten has a piece in today&#039;s WaPo...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050502884.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;why is Obama allowing a foreign government to proceed with prosecutions of US government officials?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Bolten has a piece in today&#8217;s WaPo&#8230;<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050502884.html" rel="nofollow">why is Obama allowing a foreign government to proceed with prosecutions of US government officials?</a></p>
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		<title>By: coldwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>coldwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BDS?

Perhaps to a large extent, but I have to wonder, BDS or no, if these people have given any serious thought to their demands for &quot;justice?&quot;

Having been involved in a multi-agency crisis management sub-Cabinet-level live video discussion from within the &quot;bubble&quot; many years ago, I saw very frank and very open discussion, at times heated, as various members of an Administration tried to deal with a looming issue that if handled poorly could have gotten a lot of our best young men and women in uniform injured or killed.

But, it was that we had that open discussion, all options laid bare in front of us, heated to be sure, but rational nonetheless, that led to a successful conclusion of the matter.

We were able to avert something that the Administration at the time was pushing for, for no other reason than to show that the President at the time was tough...not a wimp.

Jump forward 20 years...if this Administration goes ahead with any sort of retribution against any members of the previous Administration who offered legal advice what is the expected result?  If this Administration stands to one side, playing passive-aggressive games, while such takes place, what will be the result?

Is it merely a one-time attempt to seek &quot;justice?&quot;  

Not hardly.

And it opens a Pandora&#039;s Box that once opened can never be closed entirely.

Thus, in a little over three years from now, will the new Administration have the power of precedent to go after any officials who gave advice to Obama?  

Will officials in a new Administration shirk their sworn obligations and fail to offer clear, brutally frank advice for feae their words and advice may be used against them in a criminal proceeding?

If the Bush Administration broke the Law, if there is a clear article or section of the US Code willfully violated...then prosecute them.  Make it open and very public.  The DoJ has this obligation, as does the chief law enforcement officer in the nation, President Obama. Seek an indictment, file charges, let&#039;s get with it...and in the full view of the public.

Personally, I doubt such will happen, not because the Obama Administration fears that this may be a distraction, but because under US Code there is no violation of law.  

As each day passes and the Administration allows its Attorney general to run around libeling members of the previous Administration we draw ever closer to a point where as a matter of form, as each new Administration comes to Washington there will be show trials, and purges, and all the rest that comes with it, and within a generation we will be more like banana republics of the Third World, and less and less a nation of laws.

Obama is allowing his minions to engage in word games, to the detriment of the citizens of the United States.  That he will not pick up the phone and call his Attopenry General and tell him to stop shows of what stuff Obama is made.  Not man enough to pursue to its end his supposition that the law was broken...finding no law yet that will enable this, myself, he let&#039;s his minions pursue the same, offering that while he does not support such a thing, he cannot control his Attorney General nor members of his own Party?

When we make it official policy of government to criminalize policy advice, you can expect the toadies of each Administration to not offer any advice at all.

End it, Obama.  Use your super-secret Blackberry to tweet your Attorney General and Congressional leadership to stop it...immediately.

Or, reap the whirlwind that is sure to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BDS?</p>
<p>Perhaps to a large extent, but I have to wonder, BDS or no, if these people have given any serious thought to their demands for &#8220;justice?&#8221;</p>
<p>Having been involved in a multi-agency crisis management sub-Cabinet-level live video discussion from within the &#8220;bubble&#8221; many years ago, I saw very frank and very open discussion, at times heated, as various members of an Administration tried to deal with a looming issue that if handled poorly could have gotten a lot of our best young men and women in uniform injured or killed.</p>
<p>But, it was that we had that open discussion, all options laid bare in front of us, heated to be sure, but rational nonetheless, that led to a successful conclusion of the matter.</p>
<p>We were able to avert something that the Administration at the time was pushing for, for no other reason than to show that the President at the time was tough&#8230;not a wimp.</p>
<p>Jump forward 20 years&#8230;if this Administration goes ahead with any sort of retribution against any members of the previous Administration who offered legal advice what is the expected result?  If this Administration stands to one side, playing passive-aggressive games, while such takes place, what will be the result?</p>
<p>Is it merely a one-time attempt to seek &#8220;justice?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Not hardly.</p>
<p>And it opens a Pandora&#8217;s Box that once opened can never be closed entirely.</p>
<p>Thus, in a little over three years from now, will the new Administration have the power of precedent to go after any officials who gave advice to Obama?  </p>
<p>Will officials in a new Administration shirk their sworn obligations and fail to offer clear, brutally frank advice for feae their words and advice may be used against them in a criminal proceeding?</p>
<p>If the Bush Administration broke the Law, if there is a clear article or section of the US Code willfully violated&#8230;then prosecute them.  Make it open and very public.  The DoJ has this obligation, as does the chief law enforcement officer in the nation, President Obama. Seek an indictment, file charges, let&#8217;s get with it&#8230;and in the full view of the public.</p>
<p>Personally, I doubt such will happen, not because the Obama Administration fears that this may be a distraction, but because under US Code there is no violation of law.  </p>
<p>As each day passes and the Administration allows its Attorney general to run around libeling members of the previous Administration we draw ever closer to a point where as a matter of form, as each new Administration comes to Washington there will be show trials, and purges, and all the rest that comes with it, and within a generation we will be more like banana republics of the Third World, and less and less a nation of laws.</p>
<p>Obama is allowing his minions to engage in word games, to the detriment of the citizens of the United States.  That he will not pick up the phone and call his Attopenry General and tell him to stop shows of what stuff Obama is made.  Not man enough to pursue to its end his supposition that the law was broken&#8230;finding no law yet that will enable this, myself, he let&#8217;s his minions pursue the same, offering that while he does not support such a thing, he cannot control his Attorney General nor members of his own Party?</p>
<p>When we make it official policy of government to criminalize policy advice, you can expect the toadies of each Administration to not offer any advice at all.</p>
<p>End it, Obama.  Use your super-secret Blackberry to tweet your Attorney General and Congressional leadership to stop it&#8230;immediately.</p>
<p>Or, reap the whirlwind that is sure to follow.</p>
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