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	<title>Comments on: Antonia Zerbisias and the &#8216;Water-Cooler Consensus&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: TheUnrepentantGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheUnrepentantGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;or is it just instinct in lieu of actual thought?

Jim Treacher on April 30, 2009 at 2:27 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Most people appear to operate that way.  No reason reporters would be terribly different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>or is it just instinct in lieu of actual thought?</p>
<p>Jim Treacher on April 30, 2009 at 2:27 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Most people appear to operate that way.  No reason reporters would be terribly different.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Dumbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angry Dumbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is why a mush-mouthed, apologetic, watered-down kind of conservative message won’t work. People in the media expect conservatives to be defensive and fearful, because most journalists consider conservatism something wrong and shameful. So when a David Frum or a Meghan McCain tries to cut corners and blunt the message, it only reinforces liberal assumptions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Great phrasing there.  Conservatism is wrong and shameful.  I have a good college friend who is a liberal who does not consider himself a liberal.   We had a lengthly discussion on affirmative action and I said I had no problem with government aid based on need, but I viewed race and gender preferences to be counterproductive.   

He knew I was not racist or sexist, but he simply couldn&#039;t believe that I had a problem with affirmative action.    Conservatives have great positions on the issues, but we don&#039;t often have the discussions on the merits for fear of being misunderstood.   Conservatives are by nature non-conformist and we have to use our non-conformity to address the issues presented on the merits without adopting the liberal narrative that our positions are shameful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is why a mush-mouthed, apologetic, watered-down kind of conservative message won’t work. People in the media expect conservatives to be defensive and fearful, because most journalists consider conservatism something wrong and shameful. So when a David Frum or a Meghan McCain tries to cut corners and blunt the message, it only reinforces liberal assumptions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Great phrasing there.  Conservatism is wrong and shameful.  I have a good college friend who is a liberal who does not consider himself a liberal.   We had a lengthly discussion on affirmative action and I said I had no problem with government aid based on need, but I viewed race and gender preferences to be counterproductive.   </p>
<p>He knew I was not racist or sexist, but he simply couldn&#8217;t believe that I had a problem with affirmative action.    Conservatives have great positions on the issues, but we don&#8217;t often have the discussions on the merits for fear of being misunderstood.   Conservatives are by nature non-conformist and we have to use our non-conformity to address the issues presented on the merits without adopting the liberal narrative that our positions are shameful.</p>
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		<title>By: andycanuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>andycanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s even worse than that--AZ started out at the &lt;em&gt;Red Star &lt;/em&gt;writing for their TV listings. And yes, she&#039;s always been like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s even worse than that&#8211;AZ started out at the <em>Red Star </em>writing for their TV listings. And yes, she&#8217;s always been like that.</p>
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		<title>By: rrpjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>rrpjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is more than mere conformity. It is competition. One&#039;s merit and brilliance is proved by upping the ante; this is how one becomes distinguished among one&#039;s peers. We now have a mutated marketplace, in which dogma and hate have replaced individual thought and the journalistic drive for truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is more than mere conformity. It is competition. One&#8217;s merit and brilliance is proved by upping the ante; this is how one becomes distinguished among one&#8217;s peers. We now have a mutated marketplace, in which dogma and hate have replaced individual thought and the journalistic drive for truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Treacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Treacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Journalists don’t notice liberal bias for the same reason fish don’t notice water.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And they&#039;re able to function almost as well without it.

Antonia Whoever was then complaining that &lt;em&gt;she&lt;/em&gt; was being bullied by Malkin. Do they all use the same playbook, or is it just instinct in lieu of actual thought?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Journalists don’t notice liberal bias for the same reason fish don’t notice water.</p></blockquote>
<p>And they&#8217;re able to function almost as well without it.</p>
<p>Antonia Whoever was then complaining that <em>she</em> was being bullied by Malkin. Do they all use the same playbook, or is it just instinct in lieu of actual thought?</p>
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