Democrats expand the tent in Maryland… by allowing felons to vote

posted at 8:31 am on February 13, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

The Democrats in Maryland have been in a daze ever since Larry Hogan won the Governor’s race in November of 2014. How could this have happened? How could a Republican win in a state which is essentially owned and operated by the Democrats who hold a nearly two to one advantage in voter registration? Clearly something had to be done, but the idea of examining their message and policies to find out why their voters were rebelling was out of the question. The obvious answer was to simply round up some additional Democrat voters. But where to find them?

Easy peasy. They simply voted to change the law and allow recently released felons who are still on parole or probation to vote. Hogan vetoed the measure, but the state legislature has now overridden him, clearing the path for tens of thousands of happy new Democrats to come to the polls.

The legislature on Tuesday narrowly overturned Gov. Larry Hogan’s veto of a bill to extend voting rights to felons before they complete probation and parole.

The reversal both dealt a political blow to the Republican governor, who lobbied to prevent the bill from becoming law, and set the stage for an estimated 20,000 former inmates to cast ballots in Baltimore’s primary election for mayor and City Council this spring…

The bill was the sixth that Hogan vetoed from last year’s General Assembly, and the sixth the Democratic-controlled legislature reinstated this year. The House of Delegates voted to override Hogan’s veto last month, and on Tuesday, the Senate voted 29-18 to overrule the governor.

This wound up producing much harsher vitriol than nearly any other issue under debate. Democrats in the state senate began receiving, “”the most vicious hate mail you can possibly imagine” in response to the veto override. Social media erupted with anger, including some over the top threats and anonymous users wishing harm on the members and their families. At this point, though, the deal seems to be done.

Thomas V. Miller, the president of the Maryland Senate, defended the move, arguing that felons have paid their debt to society and just want to return to the fold along with the rest of their fellow citizens. But as Hans von Spakovsky and Roger Clegg point out at National Review, this looks like nothing more than a case of trying to round up more Democrat votes. If they truly cared about the integration of these recently released felons, why wouldn’t they move to restore the many other rights they lose in Maryland?

What Miller doesn’t mention is that under Maryland law, like other states, you don’t just lose your right to vote when you are convicted of a felony — Maryland also bars felons from owning a gun or serving on a jury. The state allows licensing boards to deny an application or impose sanctions on a current license holder for individuals convicted of “drug crimes.” Licensing boards as varied as cosmetology and architecture are also allowed to deny or suspend the license of an applicant who has been convicted of any felony or even “a misdemeanor that is directly related to the fitness and qualification of the applicant or licensee.”

There is nothing barring the state Department of Corrections or sheriff’s offices from doing background checks and refusing to hire felons. More generally, felons can be barred from any other state employment positions that require a background check or are designated state personnel-management positions.

All of this is true, but we’re also overlooking one of the chief points which Maryland’s president of the senate and his supporters fail to mention. Each state obviously has the right to restrict the voting rights of those who have proven themselves untrustworthy. This varies from state to state, but it’s an accepted legal practice. If Maryland wishes to do away with such restrictions they are free to do so, but that’s not what they’re doing here. The actual felons still in prison can’t vote, even under the new rules, and nobody is proposing that they should. Miller is defending this move as restoring the rights of those who have paid their debt to society. This is straight up malfeasance. The legislation applies to those who have been physically released from behind prison walls, but are still on parole and/or probation. They are still not done paying their debt. These particular felons are under the watchful eye of the law enforcement system to see if they can be trusted before cutting them loose entirely.

No matter, though. Hope and change have arrived in Maryland, and just in time for the primary races in Baltimore. Funny how that works, eh?

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Now we know where the Clintons are moving.

ConstantineXI on February 13, 2016 at 8:33 AM

…so?…illegals have been voting for ages…so have dead people!

JugEarsButtHurt on February 13, 2016 at 8:34 AM

As Lincoln or Horace Greeley or some other guy once said, “Not all Democrats are horse thieves, but all horse thieves are Democrats.”

After all, a lot of crime is just one form of redistribution.

Drained Brain on February 13, 2016 at 8:36 AM

A court challenge, maybe? I understand that it will end up in DC circuit, chock full of Obama and Clinton appointees, but the law rammed under prima facie false pretense shouldn’t be left standing unchallenged.

Rix on February 13, 2016 at 8:43 AM

if on parole/probation they HAVEN’T “paid the debt” though.
I am one of the few who doesn’t have an issue restoring voting rights but it (for me) has to be after full sentence served and commutations of sentence don’t count for me.

dmacleo on February 13, 2016 at 8:43 AM

The obvious answer was to simply round up some additional Democrat voters. But where to find them?

Easy peasy. They simply voted to change the law and allow recently released felons who are still on parole or probation to vote.

So the Fascist-Democrat Party is admitting it’s a criminal organization not interested in bettering society.

rbj on February 13, 2016 at 8:47 AM

You have to love those blue state….felons voting, illegal aliens voting and driving cars legally, completely corrupt primary voting systems. What a libtarded wonderland.

David in ATL on February 13, 2016 at 8:57 AM

Americans are weak and stupid people. When will this stupidity stop?

Crux Australis on February 13, 2016 at 9:00 AM

No matter, though

It’s Maryland. In the overall scheme of things will this move have any effect on that states election results? NOPE!
Move on, there has to be bigger fish to fry.

oldernwiser on February 13, 2016 at 9:03 AM

What constitutional amendment rationalizes stripping felons of the right to vote? Thought y’all were strict constitutionalists.

libfreeordie on February 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

When Hillary gets out of jail she can move to Maryland.

darwin on February 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

What constitutional amendment rationalizes stripping felons of the right to vote? Thought y’all were strict constitutionalists.

libfreeordie on February 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

– all other powers belong to the states and the people.

Plus, there is no “right” to vote.

darwin on February 13, 2016 at 9:05 AM

Americans are weak and stupid people. When will this stupidity stop?
Crux Australis on February 13, 2016 at 9:00 AM

When it’s a smoking ruin.

Cleombrotus on February 13, 2016 at 9:22 AM

Let’s see a state re-establish felons’ “right” to bear arms, using the same rationale.

byepartisan on February 13, 2016 at 9:24 AM

When it’s a smoking ruin.

Cleombrotus on February 13, 2016 at 9:22 AM

Along with the rest of the civilized world.

Crux Australis on February 13, 2016 at 9:29 AM

The dem likely nominee is a criminal so why not let criminals vote for a criminal? The dems get lower everyday. The kicker is they MUST have the illegals made citizens to offset the fact that no sane white male will vote for them any longer. Felons and non-citizens will be the base of the dem party. What could go wrong?

phadras on February 13, 2016 at 9:36 AM

Crux Australis on February 13, 2016 at 9:29 AM

Seen the movie Idiocracy ? That’s where we’re headed. Unless The Lord returns first.

Cleombrotus on February 13, 2016 at 9:40 AM

Allowing felons at the polls will keep law abiding citizens away
From the polls

In Maryland this is a wash.

You will still get a incompetent and/ or corrupt dems in office.

BigSven on February 13, 2016 at 9:44 AM

I didn’t watch the D debate but looked at the fact check.

Bernie stated that 1 in 4 AA men wind up incarcerated.

The fact check had it as closer to 1 in 3 (so true).

They are doing this to help Hillary, given her higher ratings with black men.

Related note-they fact checked Bernie saying the unemployment rate among black male teens was over 50%.

The underemployment rate is 54%, the unemployment rate was 33%, so they rated that as false. (who cares about substance when you can call your opponent a liar). The whole article was fact checking Bernie. I think they only checked 3 Clinton statements. It’s so nice to have such an honest and unbiased media.

talkingpoints on February 13, 2016 at 9:49 AM

What constitutional amendment rationalizes stripping felons of the right to vote? Thought y’all were strict constitutionalists.

libfreeordie on February 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

– all other powers belong to the states and the people.

Plus, there is no “right” to vote.

darwin on February 13, 2016 at 9:05 AM

It’s funny watching someone who claims to be a history perfesser demonstrate such monstrous ignorance of history and the law, isn’t it?

NotCoach on February 13, 2016 at 9:53 AM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?

nonpartisan on February 13, 2016 at 9:54 AM

Maryland is a lost cause..sorta like Cali.
Pedophiles,rapists, and drug dealers get to vote..effed up.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 9:55 AM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?

nonpartisan on February 13, 2016 at 9:54 AM

You’ve got to be kidding….what makes you think they would vote R?
And it was the lefties that gave them the right to vote-they will thank them.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 9:58 AM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?

nonpartisan on February 13, 2016 at 9:54 AM

The same thing that makes you believe skeet guns are nonlethal?

NotCoach on February 13, 2016 at 9:59 AM

What constitutional amendment rationalizes stripping felons of the right to vote? Thought y’all were strict constitutionalists.
libfreeordie on February 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

They should get their gun rights back too then right retard?

jawkneemusic on February 13, 2016 at 10:03 AM

Republicans are upset because it’s a setback to their long-term strategy of eliminating black voters.

First, declare a “war on crime.” Second, arrest young black men on drug charges at a dramatically higher rate that young white men, even though drug use is actually slightly more common among whites. Third, rig the justice system so that affluent whites know how to plead to a misdemeanor, get alternative sentencing etc. while black defendants plead to a felony under threat of a much longer jail term. Finally, keep felons from voting.

It’s a long-term project, but it worked in Florida in 2000.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:04 AM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?
nonpartisan on February 13, 2016 at 9:54 AM

Give them their gun rights back too.

jawkneemusic on February 13, 2016 at 10:04 AM

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:04 AM

They can have their voting rights restored so as long they get all their rights restored. Including gun rights. Let’s be consistent you racist moron.

jawkneemusic on February 13, 2016 at 10:06 AM

Republicans are upset because it’s a setback to their long-term strategy of eliminating black voters.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:04 AM

You caught us. Why our powers are so great that we even disenfranchise felons in all the blue states as well!

NotCoach on February 13, 2016 at 10:07 AM

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:04 AM

Race card! My fave!

I have a CJ bachelors degree and worked in the field. You’re full of bullshit.
That’s right it’s all a ploy to keep the black man down.
My cousin in TX is as white as the pure driven snow..serving a nice felony sentence.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:08 AM

And I will add..when she gets out she will face the consequences of her conviction.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:10 AM

And I will add..when she gets out she will face the consequences of her conviction.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:10 AM

She can vote again in Texas after she has served all her time, including probation and parole. The following site is a pro-felon site, but it gives a good run down of the various state laws.

http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000286

NotCoach on February 13, 2016 at 10:12 AM

They can have their voting rights restored so as long they get all their rights restored. Including gun rights. Let’s be consistent you racist moron.

jawkneemusic on February 13, 2016 at 10:06 AM

Maybe you should get your republican governor to worry about that.

Voting is the most fundamental right in a democracy, it takes precedence.

Race card! My fave!

I have a CJ bachelors degree and worked in the field. You’re full of bullshit.
That’s right it’s all a ploy to keep the black man down.
My cousin in TX is as white as the pure driven snow..serving a nice felony sentence.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:08 AM

Not the race card if it’s true. Felon disenfranchisement falls disproportionately heavily on the African American community, the war on drugs focuses on inner cities and not suburbs or rural areas, poor African Americans are more likely to give up more than they need to than (relatively) more affluent whites, and when there is action to get the rights restored — to people who have completed their jail time — Republicans like Hogan and (completely partisan if not half-fascist) von Spakovsky fight to keep them off.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM

Voting is the most fundamental right in a democracy, it takes precedence.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM

No it isn’t. Get back to us when you aren’t so flipping stupid.

NotCoach on February 13, 2016 at 10:20 AM

Crux australis again makes his astute observation of the ongoing decline and fall of the United States, and Cleombrotus makes his very witty and absolutely spot on replies.

I often wonder how one could defeat Leftism or at least escape Leftists and their wretched influence. Move to another country? Divide the nation in two with conservatives in one half and Leftists in the other? Make it Leftism illegal. Kill them all?

Some of such ideas are immoral. Some are impractical. Most are said tongue in cheek. But all are ultimately ineffective. Why? One reason is because Leftists seem to spontaneously generate in all societies, much as do schizophrenics or sociopaths. The other reason is that Leftists are relentless in their desire to spread Leftism. If the inhabitants of another planet were to be blessedly free of the disease of Leftism, Leftists would never be able to rest until their disease was spread to that planet.

I have therefore (almost) come to the conclusion that Leftism can only be fought effectively, if not absolutely defeated, by mass education. Not indoctrination, forced “re-education”, propaganda or any of the other favorite tools of the Left, but by actual and honest education. By any measure, a rational assessment of Leftism should absolutely convince anyone with nearly any degree of intelligence of both the wretchedness of the ideology itself as well as the practical consequences of its inevitable failure wherever it is tried.

I have no idea how the world, or even a significant part of it, could be educated about Leftism or even simply be exposed to an honest discussion about Leftism vs. non-Leftist ideologies such as Conservatism. Perhaps if Bernie Sanders becomes the Democrat nominee, there will at least be an opening or opportunity for such a discussion in front of a reasonably large audience. Which, incidentally, is one reason that the Leftist powers that be might work against his nomination.

Just thinking out loud here.

justltl on February 13, 2016 at 10:22 AM

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM

It’s not true just because you state it’s true.
And they focus on the inner city as it’s a hot bed for dealing and violence.
Sorry, in my life I’ve lost a few friends to drugs..white and the weren’t affluent. They were convicted and served. Hmmmm…what would change the inner cities from being targeted? You know the answer.
btw..I’m for the legalization of weed.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:25 AM

NotCoach on February 13, 2016 at 10:12 AM

Thx..I didn’t know that.
She still has 2 years. What she did was wrong and she knows it..whatever rights she loses will be deserved. She has changed..so I expect her to stay clean after she’s out.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:27 AM

60 percent of inmates are caucasian.

CwFTW on February 13, 2016 at 10:31 AM

60 percent of inmates are caucasian.

CwFTW on February 13, 2016 at 10:31 AM

With a disproportionate # of blacks.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:33 AM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?

– nonpartisan

You just keep on thinking, Butch. That’s what you’re good at.

Jazz Shaw on February 13, 2016 at 10:35 AM

The dem likely nominee is a criminal so why not let criminals vote for a criminal?

phadras on February 13, 2016 at 9:36 AM

I was thinking the same thing.

JetBoy on February 13, 2016 at 10:39 AM

Occam’s razor.

Could it possibly be that a disproportionate percentage of blacks are incarcerated, because they commit a disproportionate percentage of the crime?

justltl on February 13, 2016 at 10:41 AM

blink on February 13, 2016 at 10:36 AM

I made a mistake back when I was 17. The crime was non violent, I just had poor representation and I also did not know how horrible the anchor was going to be even now, 20 years later.
Many people make mistakes some are worse than others. The thing is, you would think over time a little bit of leniency would happen. Its people like you who just keep thinking a person is a criminal no matter how much time has past, let alone how much a person changed.

One more thing, not all us “criminals” vote democratic.

watertown on February 13, 2016 at 10:48 AM

darwin on February 13, 2016 at 9:05 AM
NotCoach on February 13, 2016 at 9:53 AM / 9:59 AM

I have a computer card file in which I save particularly germane items that happen to come by in my free time.

One of these is under the category of, “Quotes…/Blogs/Retards-General – 2016”

Thanks to the above contributors for some unusually astute and humorous observations on several of our repeat, special-defect retards this morning.

RL on February 13, 2016 at 10:51 AM

Felons for Hilary, 2016.
“One of us!”

Kenosha Kid on February 13, 2016 at 10:54 AM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?

– nonpartisan

You just keep on thinking, Butch. That’s what you’re good at.

Jazz Shaw on February 13, 2016 at 10:35 AM

Impressive. Mmmmost impressive. Obi-wan has taught you well.

RL on February 13, 2016 at 10:55 AM

Fine, let them vote. In my mind, once you are released from prison, you have completed your sentence. The state may monitor you in the hopes of reducing recidivism, but you are otherwise free. Voting is one of the most precious of our civil rights, and to withhold it from those who have served their time is not right.

Here, we are talking about 40,000 people. Maryland had, as of 2012, 1,983,912 Republicans, and 940,419 Democrats, according to Google. So, if every single one of the ex-felons registers as a Democrat (which is not an unreasonable assumption, given the lawbreaking propensities of Democrats), they’ve increased their representation by a bit more than 4% relative to their own party, but only a bit more than 1% relative to the total. Assuming that all the ex-lawbreakers came from strongly Democratic territory, there’s not much change going to be going on here, no matter what the Democrats might hope for.

unclesmrgol on February 13, 2016 at 10:58 AM

No it isn’t. Get back to us when you aren’t so flipping stupid.

NotCoach on February 13, 2016 at 10:20 AM

yeah, it is.

t’s not true just because you state it’s true.
And they focus on the inner city as it’s a hot bed for dealing and violence.
Sorry, in my life I’ve lost a few friends to drugs..white and the weren’t affluent. They were convicted and served. Hmmmm…what would change the inner cities from being targeted? You know the answer.
btw..I’m for the legalization of weed.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:25 AM

they focus on the inner city because the purpose of the “War in Drugs” is to impress white voters, and rounding up a bunch of African Americans for the news cameras does that, because it’s easier to catch a bunch of low-lever streetcorner dealers than do real police work and catch less obvious criminals and because, if the cops started wandering through the suburbs stopping and frisking every little skate punk that looks like they have a baggie of weed in their pocket,their affluent parents would go crazy.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 11:00 AM

What constitutional amendment rationalizes stripping felons of the right to vote? Thought y’all were strict constitutionalists.
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libfreeordie on February 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

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What passage, within our Constitution states, or even so much as IMPLIES … that voting is a “right”?

I thought you knew something about Constitutional law.

listens2glenn on February 13, 2016 at 11:04 AM

What constitutional amendment rationalizes stripping felons of the right to vote? Thought y’all were strict constitutionalists.

libfreeorgan on February 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

…you can’t vote….can you?
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Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?

– noforeskin

…he doesn’t smoke massive quantities of weed…or mainline crack into his neck…like you do!

JugEarsButtHurt on February 13, 2016 at 11:09 AM

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:33 AM

Disproportionate to the numbers/types of crimes they commit?

artist on February 13, 2016 at 11:12 AM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?
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nonpartisan on February 13, 2016 at 9:54 AM

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You just keep on thinking, Butch. That’s what you’re good at.
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Jazz Shaw on February 13, 2016 at 10:35 AM

.
He has 20/10 vision, and the rest of us wear bi-focals.

listens2glenn on February 13, 2016 at 11:13 AM

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 11:00 AM

*yawn*

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 11:15 AM

Republicans are upset because it’s a setback to their long-term strategy of eliminating black voters.

Stop lying.

First, declare a “war on crime.”

Which Bill Clinton did. It was inner city people who were being savaged from the crack epidemic that cried out for the politicians to do something. They did, now they’re not happy with the results. The answer of course, is don’t commit crime, but democrats would rather keep people poor, dependent and excuse their criminal behavior as long as it gets them votes.

Many black people see what you’re doing. When the day comes that their message finally reaches the masses your corrupt goose is cooked.

Second, arrest young black men on drug charges at a dramatically higher rate that young white men, even though drug use is actually slightly more common among whites. Third, rig the justice system so that affluent whites know how to plead to a misdemeanor, get alternative sentencing etc. while black defendants plead to a felony under threat of a much longer jail term. Finally, keep felons from voting.

You want inner city streets safe for other people? Maybe you don’;t care about the other blacks. Just the ones committing the crime. Not the other people who have to suffer the abuses of criminals, gangs and drug addicts. Forget the honest folks, let’s let the drug addicts, gang members and other criminal free so they can vote.

It’s a long-term project, but it worked in Florida in 2000.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:04 AM

It certainly is. You’ve kept blacks down and on your plantation for decades now with your grievance politics. You keep them uninformed, under educated and rile them up whenever you need some votes against Republicans. Then you put them all back in the box and ignore them until it’s election time again. Like you said, it’s worked very well.

darwin on February 13, 2016 at 11:17 AM

yeah, it is.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 11:00 AM

Yeah, you’re stuck on stupid. We know.

FYI, the race card is overdrawn. No sane individual believes this nonsense, nor will they consider this argument to be worth even listening to.

NotCoach on February 13, 2016 at 11:24 AM

Voting is the most fundamental right in a democracy, it takes precedence.
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urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM

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No … voting is a PRIVILEGE.

Re-posting:
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What constitutional amendment rationalizes stripping felons of the right to vote? Thought y’all were strict constitutionalists.
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libfreeordie on February 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

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What passage, within our Constitution states, or even so much as IMPLIES … that voting is a “right”?

I thought you knew something about Constitutional law.
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listens2glenn on February 13, 2016 at 11:04 AM

listens2glenn on February 13, 2016 at 11:25 AM

urban elitist on February 13, 2016

…are you, noforeskin and libfreeorgan sitting in a circle right now?………whose basement?

JugEarsButtHurt on February 13, 2016 at 11:30 AM

With a disproportionate # of blacks.

bazil9 on February 13, 2016 at 10:33 AM

There’s a disproportionate # of left-handed felons too. Obviously they’re being targeted.

hal_mccombs on February 13, 2016 at 11:37 AM

What constitutional amendment rationalizes stripping felons of the right to vote? Thought y’all were strict constitutionalists.

libfreeordie on February 13, 2016 at 9:04 AM

As every strict constitutionalist knows (but all others purposefully remain unaware of), the document details what the federal powers are, relegating all others to the people and the states (9th and 10th amds.). Since the Constitution is silent on whether ex-felons, after being deprived of their rights via due process, can vote or not, it is not a Constitutional question.

Ricard on February 13, 2016 at 11:40 AM

Not the race card if it’s true. Felon disenfranchisement falls disproportionately heavily on the African American community, the war on drugs focuses on inner cities and not suburbs or rural areas, poor African Americans are more likely to give up more than they need to than (relatively) more affluent whites, and when there is action to get the rights restored — to people who have completed their jail time — Republicans like Hogan and (completely partisan if not half-fascist) von Spakovsky fight to keep them off.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM

And yet, South Africa is not ‘racist’ and they require voter ID. Funny how law enforcement tends to focus on areas where crime is highest, isn’t it? So, if felons should have their voting rights reinstated, do they get their gun ownership rights back as well? Yes or no? “Felon disenfranchisement” WTF? Hey, how about cadaver disenfranchisement? Just think of all the things the dead are denied! RACIST!!!!

ghostwalker1 on February 13, 2016 at 11:41 AM

Maybe you should get your republican governor to worry about that.
Voting is the most fundamental right in a democracy, it takes precedence.

No it isn’t dullard.

jawkneemusic on February 13, 2016 at 11:43 AM

Maybe you should get your republican governor to worry about that.
Voting is the most fundamental right in a democracy, it takes precedence.

And we’re not a democracy azzwipe. Mommy needs to take your keyboard away.

jawkneemusic on February 13, 2016 at 11:44 AM

No amount of blatant election rigging is enough to deter or even slightly offend the democrat brainwashed base. Having their candidates win by any means possible is simply an entitlement to the left. Their future criminal in chief is a prime example.

Oxymoron on February 13, 2016 at 11:57 AM

Lefties are all felons or for felons.

Schadenfreude on February 13, 2016 at 11:59 AM

Blacks are responsible for at least 50 percent of homicides. Must be because police patrol black neighborhoods./

CwFTW on February 13, 2016 at 11:59 AM

I have serious doubts that libfree even was given a high school diploma.

CwFTW on February 13, 2016 at 12:01 PM

What passage, within our Constitution states, or even so much as IMPLIES … that voting is a “right”?

I thought you knew something about Constitutional law.

listens2glenn on February 13, 2016 at 11:04 AM

Dang I really hate to do this but voting is referenced as a right in the 15th amendment. It could certainly be argued that this implies that voting is a right…regardless of what Neal Boortz says.

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Oldnuke on February 13, 2016 at 12:03 PM

Funny to see the anti gunners talking about the Constitution.

CwFTW on February 13, 2016 at 12:05 PM

Voting is the most fundamental right in a democracy, it takes precedence.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM

so, when the black panthers stood outside that polling place with a billy club, and made threatening racist comments to whites, and the Obama admin just slapped their wrists, you agree that the Obama admin and the black panthers are racist and fascist cuz they would not allow whites “their most fundamental right in a democracy.”

Senator Philip Bluster on February 13, 2016 at 12:14 PM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?

– nonpartisan

You just keep on thinking, Butch. That’s what you’re good at.

Jazz Shaw on February 13, 2016 at 10:35 AM

You must be talking about some other “non”partisan.

F X Muldoon on February 13, 2016 at 12:14 PM

Most democrats are not felons but most felons are democrats. End of story.

Mason on February 13, 2016 at 12:44 PM

Felons? That’s code word for democrats, correct?

Thought so.

Andy__B on February 13, 2016 at 2:54 PM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?

– nonpartisan

Good question, actually. Are there stats?
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/03/why_can_t_ex_cons_vote_the_surprisingly_complicated_politics_behind_felon.html

Empirical research on felon voting patterns supports this assumption, in some ways. One study of voter registration records showed that among ex-felons in New York, about 62 percent were registered as Democrats, compared to just 9 percent who were registered as Republicans. In New Mexico the breakdown was 52 percent vs. 19 percent, and in North Carolina it was 43 percent vs. 31 percent.

But it’s far from clear that enfranchising ex-felons would be a slam-dunk for Democrats. For one thing, very few ex-felons tend to vote even in places where they’re allowed to do so, which means adding more of them to the rolls isn’t likely to affect electoral outcomes except in extremely close races. Furthermore, argues Northwestern University political scientist Traci Burch, while it’s true that black felons tend to support Democrats, their white counterparts are much more likely to vote Republican, especially in certain states.

How about those close races, though?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/12/if-convicted-felons-could-vote.html

A record 5.85 million convicted felons aren’t allowed to vote, according to a report out today (PDF) by The Sentencing Project, a criminal justice research and advocacy group. That’s about 500,000 more than were disenfranchised in 2004—and potentially enough to decide this year’s tightly-contested presidential election. (that was Obama v. Romney)
By some estimates, the election could be decided by a margin of roughly two points, or a mere 2.5 million people. The disenfranchised felon voting block is “absolutely enough” to swing an election, says Sasha Abramsky, author of Conned: How Millions Went to Prison, Lost the Vote and Helped Send George W. Bush to the White House.

So, yeah, it’s a pretty good guess that there is reason to think felons vote Democrat, even if some vote Republican.
Felons in Blue states vote Democrat; in Red states, Republican.

If Dems are over-riding GOP vetoes, then it’s an even safer bet that the majority of felons in that state are expected to vote Dem.

AesopFan on February 13, 2016 at 3:02 PM

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I have no idea how the world, or even a significant part of it, could be educated about Leftism or even simply be exposed to an honest discussion about Leftism vs. non-Leftist ideologies such as Conservatism. Perhaps if Bernie Sanders becomes the Democrat nominee, there will at least be an opening or opportunity for such a discussion in front of a reasonably large audience. Which, incidentally, is one reason that the Leftist powers that be might work against his nomination.

Just thinking out loud here.

justltl on February 13, 2016 at 10:22 AM

If conservatives and Republicans would take over the re-education system IN the prisons, then maybe we would be more sanguine about restoring voting rights.

AesopFan on February 13, 2016 at 3:03 PM

Republicans are upset because it’s a setback to their long-term strategy of eliminating black voters.

First, declare a “war on crime.” Second, arrest young black men on drug charges at a dramatically higher rate that young white men, even though drug use is actually slightly more common among whites. Third, rig the justice system so that affluent whites know how to plead to a misdemeanor, get alternative sentencing etc. while black defendants plead to a felony under threat of a much longer jail term. Finally, keep felons from voting.

It’s a long-term project, but it worked in Florida in 2000.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:04 AM

Why would Republicans engage in such a complex system when Planned Parenthood is already doing the job so well?

The problem in Florida was insane voting procedures, rank incompetence, and partisan judges.

AesopFan on February 13, 2016 at 3:05 PM

As a Marylander, these ^%&$#@* legislators do NOT represent the people.
So with drivers licenses for illegals, the vote for felons, hey, why not the vote for O’Malley’s New Americans (illegals). If those felon citizens are good enough to vote, why not allow them to own firearms; and why not give them concealed carry permits too since many of them used to carry concealed in the past and know how to really conceal a firearm so as not to scare citizens. /sarc.
This is what happens when one party controls government for far too long.
Take 2nd Amendment rights away from good citizens and give rights/privileges to bad citizens or illegals. Disgusting.

amr on February 13, 2016 at 3:27 PM

You just keep on thinking, Butch. That’s what you’re good at.

Jazz Shaw on February 13, 2016 at 10:35 AM

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Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid (1969) – Newman & Redford.

ExpressoBold on February 13, 2016 at 3:34 PM

it worked in Florida in 2000.

urban effetist on February 13, 2016 at 10:04 AM

LOL! Tell us about all of those AL Gore operatives in Florida who in lockstep tried to disqualify military votes in that very same election.

F-#1.

By the way, your beloved Prince Albert in a Can would never have needed to even win Florida in 2000 in the first place to beat Bush-except he had already been rejected by the voters of his own home state of Tennessee.

Payback’s a getalife, isn’t it?

F-#2.

Del Dolemonte on February 13, 2016 at 3:42 PM

Jazz, what makes you think felons would vote democrat?

– nonpartisan

You just keep on thinking, Butch. That’s what you’re good at.

Jazz Shaw on February 13, 2016 at 10:35 AM

Can we just gid of this idiot. He degrades the entire site every time he posts.

Who is John Galt on February 13, 2016 at 3:49 PM

“get rid of”

Who is John Galt on February 13, 2016 at 3:49 PM

Urban…most prisoners are white. Nice try.

CwFTW on February 13, 2016 at 4:18 PM

Some Democrats are felons who haven’t been caught yet.

grumpyank on February 13, 2016 at 5:57 PM

Democrats expand the tent in Maryland… by allowing felons to vote

Eh, the only difference is some are behind bars and some aren’t…

Big John on February 13, 2016 at 8:09 PM

Voting is the most fundamental right in a democracy, it takes precedence.

urban elitist on February 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM

And which constitutionally enumerated right would that fall under? It may be a fundamental civic duty but it is certainly not a God-given right (or even a man-given right) expressed in the Bill of Rights.

Big John on February 13, 2016 at 8:23 PM