Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on February 10, 2016 by Allahpundit

On the day New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie dropped out of the presidential race, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said there are no hard feelings towards him for his damaging attack during the last Republican debate.

“I like Chris,” Florida Sen. Rubio said, speaking to reporters aboard a plane to South Carolina Wednesday morning. “Despite all this stuff, I’ve always liked Chris and I still like Chris. I think he has a future in public service beyond what he’s doing now in New Jersey. The only thing I don’t like about him is he’s a Dallas Cowboys fan, but we can’t all be perfect.”…

“He was trying to win,” Rubio said of the debate. “And in order to win he made a decision that he had to come after me. I respect that.”

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Talking to reporters, Rubio said his awkward repetition of a line of attack against President Obama during a televised debate in New Hampshire on Saturday “probably cost us a couple of thousand votes of undecided at the last moment.”

Rubio said he turned to criticize Obama as Chris Christie was attacking him during the debate because he doesn’t “like Republicans fighting on national television. I think it helps the Democrats. They love to see us do that.”

“And so I wanted to avoid that and just kind of tilt it away from the question they asked and tilt it back to what I think is the most important issue in this campaign, and that’s the damage Barack Obama has done,” Rubio said.

“But in an effort to do that, you know you create this perception you’re trying to avoid something. So from now on, if there’s an issue to be dealt with, even if it means we have to tussle a little bit, I’m going to do it.”

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Marco Rubio landed in South Carolina on Wednesday aiming to engineer a reboot for his once high-flying campaign, but so far his camp is mostly blaming the media for exaggerating his glitchy performances.

“I think the media made it what it was,” South Carolina Senator Tim Scott, who has endorsed Rubio, told POLITICO.

“I think it was overblown by the media,” Colorado Senator Cory Gardner said.

Though he did it cheerfully and with a smile, Rubio also complained that the reporters who follow him are too quick to pounce on his repetition of canned lines in stump speeches. “You guys have heard it fifty times… but the voter—that may be the first time they’ve ever seen me,” he said. “Sometimes you do have to repeat things, because these [voters] aren’t sitting in front of C-Span all day watching ‘Road to the White House.’”

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So ‪#‎DonaldTrump‬ boycotts a debate. ‪#‎JohnKasich‬, ‪#‎JebBush‬ & ‪#‎BenCarson‬ repeatedly stumble through debates. ‪#‎CarlyFiorina‬ is unfairly excluded from debates. ‪#‎TedCruz‬ blatantly insults all New Yorkers in a debate. ‪#‎ChrisChristie‬ verbally assaults his former BFF The POTUS in debates… and the mainstream media doesn’t find much of a problem with any of it?

Yet when ‪#‎MarcoRubio‬ repeats himself in a debate- after being masterful and eloquent in almost all of the previous debates- the mainstream media decides that it is a major problem?

Such contradictions only indicate that they must be very afraid of Mr Marco Rubio winning the ‪#‎GOP‬ nomination. It also indicates that those concerns are not due to any alleged “lack of experience”. Just saying.

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“It’s ended Marco Rubio’s chance to be the Republican nominee in my estimation,” said Steve Schmidt, the GOP strategist who guided John McCain’s 2008 campaign. “If he finishes below his mentor Jeb Bush, the rationale for his candidacy collapses.”

A group of Bush donors had been set to announce they were shifting their support to Rubio as early as Wednesday. But when Bush finished just ahead of Rubio Tuesday night, those donors remain frozen in place at least through South Carolina, a state establishment Republicans continue to hope will provide some clarity.

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“Jeb’s people want to call this a victory but it’s not. What this is: a symptom of everyone training their guns on Marco and the media looking to take him down a notch,” one Rubio insider said. “And, yes, Marco f— up big time on stage. There’s no denying it.”

One longtime Rubio supporter who backs Bush faulted Rubio’s campaign for the slip-up. He said they drove Rubio too hard and too long and he didn’t have enough sleep. In the days before New Hampshire primary, Rubio struggled to find his footing coming off as subdued and tired during some of his final campaign stops. Rubio also repeated himself, again, this time about family values in his last campaign rally in Nashua, N.H., before the primary.

“It was the pace. He couldn’t keep up,” the source said. “And then they doubled-down on it – tripled and quadrupled down on it afterward. That was surreal.”

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The episode was such a shock that not even Mr. Rubio seemed to understand the gravity of the situation as he left the stage at St. Anselm College just after 10 on Saturday night. His wife and four children rushed to greet him in a private back room, followed by somber-faced aides, who delivered their candid assessment.

It was not, Mr. Rubio conceded to them, his best performance. But only after the senator scrolled through Twitter — flooded with brutal, mocking reviews — did he fully grasp the damage he had done to his own campaign.

His aides and supporters, on the other hand, had been hearing it all night. “Shocked” was how one supporter close to the campaign leadership described the reaction. The emails pouring in from donors were incredulous. Why did he not fight harder against Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, who had mercilessly mocked him? Why did he keep repeating the same talking points? Why was he sweating so much?

At his campaign headquarters in Washington, some of the younger staff members were so deflated that senior advisers met with them on Sunday morning to reassure them the episode was just a hiccup — the kind that happens all the time in presidential races.

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Rubio’s senior team concedes the New Hampshire setback will extend the Republican nomination fight for at least another three months, if not longer.

“We very easily could be looking at May — or the convention” in July before there’s a “functional nominee,” Rubio campaign manager Terry Sullivan said in a brief interview with The Associated Press. “I would be surprised if it’s not May or the convention.”

There hasn’t been a contested national convention since 1976, yet Republican National Committee officials have already had preliminary discussions about the possibility of no candidate securing a majority of delegates in the state-by-state primary contests.

It’s by no means assured that Rubio’s candidacy will survive that long.

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The only part of this sunny theory that still holds up is that voters—at least the ones who would consider voting for someone like Rubio—are getting serious. And their serious determination is that Rubio needs a lot of work. If you can’t handle one week with everyone punching at you, how are you going to handle, say, a general election?

Christie helpfully reminded Rubio that he cannot dawdle around with third-place finishes and expect the party to naturally funnel his way in mid-March. He cannot begin ignoring his Republican rivals and training his eye on the general election yet. He still has to fend off Jeb Bush and Kasich on one side and Cruz on the other. He has to take more questions. He has to de-robotify his presentation, or at least tweak his internal programming to present a more relatable exterior to the humans he seeks to court. He has to expect that he will lose rather than win.

One reason not to write off Rubio is that he has taken a pounding like this before and lived to tell about it. He was written off following his work on comprehensive immigration reform. Though it may not have been the most noble move to back away from the bill he co-authored, doing so allowed him to repair his relationship with conservatives to the point that he now enjoys strong favorability ratings and room to grow. If he could come back from that drawn-out episode, he can come back from this poor showing. But no one’s going to hand him anything.

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The class of donors and operatives who so hoped that Rubio would wrap things up Tuesday night may be disappointed but have no reason to consider this the last battle. As Rubio said in his speech, “We did not wind up where we wanted to be, but that does not change where we’re going to be at the end of the fight.”

This theory assumes, though, that Rubio occupies a naturally large space that neither Bush nor Kasich is capable of filling. The part about no one being able to fill it besides Rubio may be true. But what if New Hampshire was a sign that voters do consider Rubio a lightweight, and his space just evaporates? Or Bush continues to bleed votes from Rubio eternally?

Cruz and Trump have won the first two nominating states. History dictates that one of them will be the nominee, and they’re the favorites heading into South Carolina. With the very notable exception of Newt Gingrich in 2012, South Carolina always picks the Republican nominee. The party doesn’t just need to settle on an establishment nominee around whom to rally—it needs that person to be a great candidate with a strong campaign to pull off what would be a history-defying comeback against Trump or Cruz. Rubio was eyed as the only candidate of the four who could fill that role. What if he can’t?

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Instead, the real takeaway was this: Something clear and true was revealed by Rubio’s repetitive, canned answer to Christie’s charge that he couldn’t stop repeating canned answers. The most devastating political attacks, scandals, and gaffes are the ones that reinforce a deeper truth about a politician. There’s a reason Hillary Clinton’s email scandal sticks — it reinforces the widely held idea that she’s secretive and arrogant. Something similar is true of Christie crushing Rubio for his robot-like recitation of anti-Obama rhetoric — it reinforces the widely held idea that Rubio doesn’t really believe what he says

Christie demonstrated on stage what many people have carried as almost a grudge against Rubio — that he believes he’s such a hotshot that he doesn’t need to earn voters’ trust. Simply by intoning the right phrases with the right pathos, he’ll ride to the White House on a crest of faith that, without him, the Republican Party cannot step into the future.

This is why Rubio’s Gang of Eight immigration reform dalliance keeps coming up. It’s not because virulent anti-immigrant sentiment has gripped the field (or the debate moderators), but because Rubio really believes he can leave his past political commitments in the same dust as the Bush-era GOP. He’ll be who he has to be to win — and you want to win, don’t you?

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It’s not just that Rubio looks so full of himself (despite constantly beating the drum of Christian humility!), or that even if you appreciate his personality, he might still strike you, as he did the Tampa Bay Times, as “a likable opportunist with a persuasive sales pitch but a thin record of accomplishment.” That apparent burn actually describes the Platonic ideal of the upwardly mobile young American—a model that hordes of talented people (including news journalists) emulate out of the same sense of necessity Team Rubio feels.

No, there’s something more here. The trouble with Rubio’s history in Washington is not that he did so little, but that he did so badly. At decision point after decision point, Rubio’s judgment led him astray, snookered by the Beltway establishment. On immigration, he bought what Chuck Schumer was selling; on Libya, what Hillary Clinton was. With unforced errors like these, who needs land mines?

Rubio has not closed the trust gap with conservatives who worry he’ll get duped again in the White House by canny but squishy operators and scheming mentor types. He hasn’t even closed the trust gap with Republicans concerned he’ll get rolled by Democrats where the presidency matters most—filling vacancies on the Supreme Court, for instance.

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Rubio’s problems are far deeper than some flub. For starters, he seems to believe that if he’s perceived as the most electable GOP contender in the general, rank-and-file conservatives will come to him as they have often done in similar situations in the past. Well, 2016 doesn’t work that way. This is an election about grievances and anger, not expedient positioning.

Other than his third place “win” in Iowa, Rubio has done nothing to distinguish his candidacy. His middling poll numbers have never suggested a clear path through the crowded moderate/establishment/governors field. In his own weird way, Trump has clogged this “moderate” path. Bush and Chris Christie, theoretically the closest ideologically to Rubio, have worked to sink him. And they probably have. No Republican has ever lost Iowa and New Hampshire and won the nomination…

Rubio, like Barack Obama before him, has been running for president since the day he joined the Senate. The guy has a lot going for him, but he disastrously misread the mood of the country with the bipartisan reform bill on immigration. In the Obama/Tea Party era, you can be a principled senator who attempts to get things done (and Rubio was almost certainly a sincere believer in immigration reform), or you can try to be president. You can’t do both. For many conservatives, immigration is the most pressing economic, political, and cultural issue the nation faces. They can absolve you of wrongdoing if you were a tepid supporter of amnesty; not if you’re part of the gang trying to push through the bill. Robot or not.

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Given that equality-in-ineptitude — and after what we just witnessed in New Hampshire — there’s no reason to assume that any of them will have a breakout moment in South Carolina. Kasich will probably lag, but another virtual tie between Jeb and Rubio seems entirely plausible. In which case all three men could still be in the race a month from now, with Kasich hanging on hoping for a big win in his native Ohio while Jeb and Rubio wage an Eastern Front-style war in Florida.

If that happens, there would probably no longer be a path to outright victory through the so-called establishment lane — only a path to delegate accumulation, with an eye toward a contested convention in the summer

The question for those politicians now is how deep the delusion runs. For Bush or Rubio, especially, a fourth-place finish in South Carolina should mark the end of their campaigns. Will it? Or is there enough stubbornness and folly in either man to keep on sawing off their party’s nose to spite the other’s face?

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HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 6:41 AM

Or “media” and politicians, spouses are probably statistically slightly more trustworthy.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 6:44 AM

I am very trustworthy, just ask any of my wives. I can be trusted to screw up big time once or a hundred.

Right now I am in the dog house! Kinda familiar and comfy.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 6:58 AM

Good morning everybody.

Racistanyway on February 11, 2016 at 6:58 AM

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 6:58 AM

Dogs are very non-judgmental.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:05 AM

Racistanyway on February 11, 2016 at 6:58 AM

Good morning!

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:05 AM

Good morning, all.

Cindy..I am such a wimp..I freezing and sick of it..I await the heat!

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:15 AM

Dogs are very non-judgmental.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:05 AM

Yea, if we could clone women, sheep, and dogs we could get the perfect chick. Okay, that was dumb, even for me.

I was forced invited by a client to attend some dumb leadership you-haw meeting this morning and I think we are being asked to split up in groups and build sand castles or something. My group seems to be made up mostly of women.

My first suggestions was that we should put on bathing suits. I have been asked to join another group.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:15 AM

I await the heat!

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:15 AM

Yes.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:16 AM

Marco Rubio landed in South Carolina on Wednesday aiming to engineer a reboot for his once high-flying campaign, but so far his camp is mostly blaming the media for exaggerating his glitchy performances.

Sorry Marco, I’ve thought your “performances” were glitchy from the beginning. No matter the question, you respond with a canned answer that sorta fits what is being asked and always ends with you citing your website. The only thing that changed on Saturday was that Chris Christie (bless his heart) called you out on it.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2016 at 7:17 AM

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:15 AM

Are y’all chilly to? I am only looking forward to next January to get rid of The Won. I am positive we will have some warmth before then.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:18 AM

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:15 AM

lol, that was cute

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:18 AM

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:15 AM

In a world of microaggression that would be considered a nuclear blast. Not much humor around today. But that’s what they get for having stupid leadership meetings to begin with.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:20 AM

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2016 at 7:17 AM

Saw his new ad this morning. It was of people watching his previous ads, smiling and shaking their heads.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:21 AM

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:18 AM

No way..lol..yeah we will be roasting soon enough..Then I’ll b!tch about the heat. I just can’t take the cold..people up north will be laughing at me. It’s the wind I can’t stand-slices right thru you.
Oh yeah..Barry’s exit can’t come soon enough can it? Unless it’s followed by Killary..God, I pray it’s not.

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:22 AM

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2016 at 7:17 AM

You mean….

Four score and seven years ago…

Four score and two immigrant parent ago…..

Four scores and four kids later….

That gets old?

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:22 AM

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:22 AM

It’s too hot.

It’s goo cold.

Too much sex.

Not enough sex.

You don’t understand my needs.

You act like you care just to get more sex.

You don’t spend enough time with me.

I need my space.

You don’t spend enough time with my family.

You flirt too much with my younger sister.

Wimmen!

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:29 AM

Fox Buss , Maria just had a blurb on Oregon deal.

The few at refuge area to walk out to FBI and Franklin Grsham at 8:00 today.

FBI arrested one of the Bundy men as he got off a plane at a Oregon air port.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 11, 2016 at 7:30 AM

I feel kinda bad for Jeb after spending all that money in NH…

http://www.theonion.com/article/demoralized-jeb-bush-succumbs-new-hampshire-heroin-52327

moo on February 11, 2016 at 7:31 AM

But John Kerry gets to sell out the U S A for his whole worthless life on our tax money pay checks.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on February 11, 2016 at 7:33 AM

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:29 AM

sex on the brain? ;)

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:33 AM

You mean….

Four score and seven years ago…

Four score and two immigrant parent ago…..

Four scores and four kids later….

That gets old?

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:22 AM

Yeah, here in the Nomad house, it became a running joke. Trying to guess which of Marco’s three or four answers he was going to use.

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2016 at 7:34 AM

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:22 AM

The Husband is now fixated with raking leaves. I am not sure which came first, the wind or the fixation. So he gets to gripe about all this hard work he can’t do. There’s a plan in there somewhere.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:36 AM

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:36 AM

lol, glad I only have palm trees.

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:40 AM

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:40 AM

Oaks are a pain in the hindquarters.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:44 AM

Oaks are a pain in the hindquarters.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:44 AM

totally-
When I lived in the historic district of Sanford, we had giant oaks.
After hurricanes and what I went thru, never again.

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:47 AM

This team building stuff is hard. At the beginning of our meeting we were told today’s exercise was to build leadership qualities, teach us how to delegate, to be successful in team building, and so on; but first and foremost we were to have fun.

Well, after twenty minutes of checking out the chicks cleavage in our group and me yapping, the two instructors came over and told me to get serious.

I told them maybe they should start with teaching multi-tasking as I can only do one thing at a time.

They should just be glad I am not walking around with my zipper flapping open.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:47 AM

Oaks are a pain in the hindquarters.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:44 AM

I mow our leaves and dump them in a tarp and haul them to the back of the property. Usually get around 200 lawnmower bags full, but easier than raking.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:49 AM

This team building stuff is hard.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:47 AM

I really disliked those and after a while the feeling was mutual.

When I go to heII, it will be those non-stop. I just know it.

cozmo on February 11, 2016 at 7:57 AM

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:49 AM

We have a riding mower that apparently is the only one in the history of mankind without a bagger that will fit it. Supposedly leaving them on the lawn to decompose is good for it but I don’t think in this quantity. They are the little leaves and they seem to burrow down into the St. Augustine grass. The developed the neighbor demanding that there be five trees in the front yard and are now finding that is two much. I need two taken down and it costs a fortune and incredibly annoying since we wouldn’t have put them there in the first place.

Cindy Munford on February 11, 2016 at 7:59 AM

I like Marco Rubio. No one is going to hate him because of some personality or vibe he give off. I like that he has a strong understanding of the role of Judeo-Christian values and how they formed America as a unique place on Earth and I like that he understands that Leftism is undoing the American Revolution and it has to be fought in a way that Chris Christie, Donald Trump, or John Kasich don’t understand.

timoric on February 11, 2016 at 8:00 AM

Oaks are pussys.

Years ago I rented a home surrounded by 10 huge trees and the property looked beautiful. It wasn’t too long after moving in the first China Berries started coming down. You want a living with the trees nightmare live with ten of those suckers over your head.

Limerick on February 11, 2016 at 8:00 AM

This team building stuff is hard. At the beginning of our meeting we were told today’s exercise was to build leadership qualities, teach us how to delegate, to be successful in team building, and so on; but first and foremost we were to have fun.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 7:47 AM

So are “love huddles” a part of the team building?

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2016 at 8:03 AM

200 bags? holy cow!

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 8:05 AM

So are “love huddles” a part of the team building?

Happy Nomad on February 11, 2016 at 8:03 AM

I got a little too excited and had to ask for a date pillow and I think that put a kibosh on the “love huddles” for our group.

Who knew that sexually harassing yourself was a Human Resource problem.

I am now being told to pay attention and put down the laptop. I told them I can now multi-task. I don’t think I am gong to get a gold star for my participation.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 8:20 AM

200 bags? holy cow!

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 8:05 AM

I have not been married that many times.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 8:21 AM

No way..lol..yeah we will be roasting soon enough..Then I’ll b!tch about the heat. I just can’t take the cold..people up north will be laughing at me. It’s the wind I can’t stand-slices right thru you.
Oh yeah..Barry’s exit can’t come soon enough can it? Unless it’s followed by Killary..God, I pray it’s not.

bazil9 on February 11, 2016 at 7:22 AM

I can take cold, if it’s dry cold. I’ve live in Colorado since 1989 (Denver) and in the mountains since 2006. It gets cold here. Most nights below freezing and frequently spells of single digits.

But three weeks ago, I was in Israel for a week and it was normally in the 40’s. But with some wind and the dampness, the cold was unbearable (for me) at times.

I actually had to hole up in my hotel room a few times, instead of wandering around, dropping in on friends and visiting some sights I haven’t yet seen.

The week wasn’t a bust, but I would say that I don’t intend to visit Israel in January again. The off-season rates were great (and I mostly travel off-season), and I’ve done Paris, Prague and Warsaw in the winter, but they didn’t seem as uncomfortable as Israel.

Maybe I’m just getting older and things like that effect me a li

Walter L. Newton on February 11, 2016 at 8:21 AM

I think one of the instructors just called security. No sense of humour today.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 8:22 AM

Good morning everybody.

HL have you checked under the leaf pile? Jimmy Hoffa could be buried there.

soapyjeans it is not so much that Marco repeats himself as that with all the sound bites stored up there does not seem to be room for original thoughts. Also there are issues of betrayal as summed up in Schadenfreude’s posts. Some side issues of criminal BIL and parents worked for mobster Meyer Lansky’s hotel. His youth and lack of experience. His tendency to lose interest and stop showing up.

{{{B9}}} sending warm well wishes to you and your gf.

Cindy always good to see you.

nuclearoptional on February 11, 2016 at 8:22 AM

Cruz disciples take aim at Obama’s immigration orders

A pair of Texas litigators are following Cruz’s lead as they gird for a Supreme Court battle this April

‘On the campaign trail, Ted Cruz has vowed to rescind President Barack Obama’s controversial executive actions on immigration — but it’s two of his former aides who could actually kill it . . .

‘Keller and Roy are now preparing for high-stakes oral arguments at the Supreme Court in April, hoping to persuade enough justices to rule that Obama’s 2014 executive actions to grant work permits to more than 4 million immigrants in the United States illegally flies in the face of the separation of powers. A decision is expected in June . . .

‘Both Keller’s and Roy’s history with Cruz extends to the senator’s time as the state’s solicitor general, the position that Keller now holds. (Roy is the state’s first assistant attorney general, making him Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s top deputy.) Roy, who was chief of staff in Cruz’s Senate office, first met the future senator during a strategy session to discuss League of United Latin American Citizens v. Perry, a 2006 redistricting case that Cruz argued before the Supreme Court.

‘And Keller was one of Cruz’s students when he was an adjunct professor at the University of Texas Law School. The future senator taught a Supreme Court litigation seminar, regaling students with tales from legal fights and joining them for the occasional margarita after class.

‘“He was fascinating,” Keller recalled. “He had so many war stories from his time of litigating all the various cases that he had. One thing that always stuck out to me, though, was he would stay after class as long as students had questions about war stories or how to improve as appellate advocates.”’

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 8:25 AM

“Yo’ Mama is so fat, when she bent over, they found Jimmy Hoffa”.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 8:26 AM

Nice article Axe

OregonPolitician on February 11, 2016 at 8:28 AM

good morning Axe. How are you? Up to any shenanigans lately?

HL LoLz

nuclearoptional on February 11, 2016 at 8:29 AM

Great, succinct article.

http://m.townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2016/02/10/how-attitude-trumped-conservative-thought-n2117182

PappyD61 on February 11, 2016 at 7:38 AM

“Trump thinks Brooks is a “p—-,” presumably; Brooks thinks Trump is a vulgarian.”

^ Great line. :)

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 8:30 AM

“Trump thinks Brooks is a “p—-,” presumably; Brooks thinks Trump is a vulgarian.”

^ Great line. :)

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 8:30 AM

Lest we forget our current prezzy giving the flying finger of fickle fate award to various and sundry

nuclearoptional on February 11, 2016 at 8:38 AM

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 8:25 AM

I wonder if those stories included reminiscences about the days when he’d finished his clerkship and became John Boehner’s private counsel, and successfully representing him in his suit against Jim McDermott, 1997-1998, after taking a job at the firm which later became known as Cooper & Kirk, LLC.

thatsafactjack on February 11, 2016 at 8:42 AM

Nice article Axe

OregonPolitician on February 11, 2016 at 8:28 AM

I agree. :) I love things like that. That kind of thing strikes me as more evidence of success than other more obvious things.

To get a little sentimental about it, you take a tired soldier near the end of his career, have him begin to wonder if he is only known for some weird quirk, how he puts a little bend at the top of his scabbard or something. And then have him notice that two soldiers just coming into their own have bent their scabbards the same way. It would be pretty cool.

Anyway, fingerprints. “I was here. I made a difference.”

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 8:47 AM

good morning Jackie

nuclearoptional on February 11, 2016 at 8:47 AM

I wonder if those stories included reminiscences about the days when he’d finished his clerkship and became John Boehner’s private counsel, and successfully representing him in his suit against Jim McDermott, 1997-1998, after taking a job at the firm which later became known as Cooper & Kirk, LLC.

thatsafactjack on February 11, 2016 at 8:42 AM

I don’t know why they would talk about private brawls. I would guess they talked about Cruz’s storied tenure as Solicitor General.

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“In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz drafted the amicus brief signed by the attorneys general of 31 states, which said that the D.C. handgun ban should be struck down as infringing upon the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. Cruz also presented oral argument for the amici states in the companion case to Heller before the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit . . .

Cruz successfully defended the constitutionality of the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds before the Fifth Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court, winning 5–4 in Van Orden v. Perry . . .

Cruz also successfully defended, in Medellin v. Texas, the State of Texas against an attempt to re-open the cases of 51 Mexican nationals, all of whom were convicted of murder in the United States and were on death row. With the support of the George W. Bush Administration, the petitioners argued that the United States had violated the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations by failing to notify the convicted nationals of their opportunity to receive legal aid from the Mexican consulate. They based their case on a decision of the International Court of Justice in the Avena case which ruled that by failing to allow access to the Mexican consulate, the US had breached its obligations under the Convention.[61] Texas won the case in a 6–3 decision, the Supreme Court holding that ICJ decisions were not binding in domestic law and that the President had no power to enforce them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

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Axe on February 11, 2016 at 9:06 AM

Lest we forget our current prezzy giving the flying finger of fickle fate award to various and sundry

nuclearoptional on February 11, 2016 at 8:38 AM

<– doesn't even know what to say anymore re. Obama

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 9:10 AM

good morning Axe. How are you? Up to any shenanigans lately?
nuclearoptional on February 11, 2016 at 8:29 AM

You. Would. Not. Believe.

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 9:13 AM

I hate Rubio as young opportunists who is a serial swindler of the Tea Party voters and can’t be trusted.

I hate Rubio for always reminding me that Obama has a conscious knowledge of what HE’S BEEN DOING in the last 7 years to transform the country into Europe-like liberal paradise in North America.

I hurts to admit that this ambitious less 1-term Senator Obama was HONEST enough and knew exactly what he set out to do.

That means Obama is much a better person compared to Rubio:
Overtly ambitious,
less than 2-termer Senator
Immigration Gangbanger
who was SO DISHONEST in betraying the conservatives

but still DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HE’S BEEN DOING since his Day 1 in office as Senator except getting richer and powerful through Fed salary, campaign donations and befriending establishment Republicans and Democrats alike.

TheAlamos on February 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM

williamg on February 11, 2016 at 1:19 AM

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Is it from something over on the Limbaugh thread? That thing went explosive very fast… I got in one or two thoughtful comments then abandoned the carnage.

ExpressoBold on February 11, 2016 at 1:30 AM

……not at all…..just have a negative attitude these days and generally being recalcitrant…

……I know she’s written some good stuff….I’ve been the usual upset about how that whole incident with Iran humiliating our sailors was beaten down and covered up by the media…..if she’s trying to be helpful – good…….wish she’d do it sooner and somehow be louder…..but you can’t control the media beat-down…

williamg on February 11, 2016 at 9:56 AM

“It’s ended Marco Rubio’s chance to be the Republican nominee in my estimation,” said Steve Schmidt, the GOP strategist who guided John McCain’s 2008 campaign. “If he finishes below his mentor Jeb Bush, the rationale for his candidacy collapses.”

I don’t think there is anyone active today in the American political scene I dislike more than Steve Schmidt. I’m no longer a Sarah Palin supporter because of her Trump endorsement but distinctly remember Schmidt and his campaign cohorts shifting blame for the disastrous McCain campaign to Palin, who was actually the major single reason John McCain didn’t lose the 2008 election in a Reagan/Mondale-like blowout.

No real-deal Republican should ever shake Schmidt’s hand. So imagine my astonishment when Rick Perry hired Schmidt last year for his campaign. That, in my view, killed Perry’s 2016 chances right then and there, mainly because people like me remember Schmidt and are likely to reject any candidate who employs him.

So yeah: if Steve Schmidt says Marco Rubio’s finished then we can properly assume Rubio will bounce back from his recent debate debacle stronger than ever. Consider Steve Schmidt as a Bizarro World political barometer.

troyriser_gopftw on February 11, 2016 at 10:06 AM

“. . .We are disappointed that some members, including Senator Cruz, who have supported the need for reform and been strong supporters of the Bill of Rights did not support this bill. We are grateful that Senator Lee corrected the record to make clear that the bill will address grave injustices in our system, free up resources to combat violent crime and enhance protections against the release of violent criminals.”

– Mark Holden, Senior Vice President & General Counsel
Koch Industries, Inc.

Statement Regarding the Sentencing Reform and Corrections Act

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So how did Ted Cruz get athwart the mighty Koch Brothers, enough so that they singled him out with a warning shot?

We asked the Internet.

Most of the criticism from those Senators focused on their concerns that the bill would render more than 7,000 career criminals eligible for early release . . .

The argument that this bill applies only to low-level, non-violent drug offenders is just irreconcilable with the text. The bill is also retroactive, so it would also offer relief for convicted criminals already in federal prison . . .

. . . all of the amendments were rejected.

Senators Cruz, Perdue, and Sessions proposed an amendment that would have eliminated the sentence reductions for career criminals and made the bill non-retroactive, which was rejected 15-5.

Senator Perdue proposed his own amendment eliminating retroactivity, joined by Senators Sessions, Cruz, and Hatch, but that too was rejected 15-5.

Senator Sessions offered an amendment that would exempt crimes involving heroin, apparently directed at addressing the growing heroin and opioid epidemic. Also rejected 15-5.

Senator Hatch discussed an amendment that would have established a default criminal intent (mens rea) standard in federal law, designed to address the problem of over-criminalization, but then stopped short of offering the amendment on the basis that it had already been made clear that all amendments would be rejected.

The Sentencing Reform and Corrections Act of 2015: Post-Markup Reactions and Analysis

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So, what’s this Cruz/Lee disagreement business?

Cruz:

“Under the [retroactive] terms of this bill, 7,082 federal prisoners would be eligible for release. Now none of us know what those 7,082 prisoners did. None of us know what the underlying conduct was that the prosecutors may have plea-bargained down under the existing sentencing laws and that they may not have entered that plea bargain if they had known that the sentencing laws would be lessened.

“But I for one at a time when police officers across this country are under assault right now, are being vilified right now, and when we’re seeing violent crime spiking in our cities across the country, I think it would be a serious mistake for the Senate to pass legislation providing for 7,082 convicted criminals potentially to be released early.”

Lee:

“We put together this bill that requires a case-by-case analysis, a case-by-case scrutiny by the federal district judge in question and by the prosecutors involved in each case to consider the nature of each offense and the circumstances of each offense. Also they will consider the offender’s conduct while in prison and the possible risk posed to public safety by any early release that might occur under these provisions.”

Koch Industries Attorney Criticizes Ted Cruz for Opposing Sentencing Reform Bill

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Anyway, that happened.

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 10:25 AM

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 9:06 AM

“private brawls”?

It was a very public case revolving around McDermott’s making public a tape of a telephone conversation including John Boehner. Cruz won the case and Boehner was awarded $1 million. Boehner gave the funds to charity. The case began in 2004 with an investigation by the House ethics committee regarding Newt Gingrich. Interesting to note that the Martins, who gave the tape to McDermott, had recorded the conversation regarding Gingrich and Boehner via a police scanner, that had picked up the conversation, however, Boehner sued as a private citizens on grounds the revelation of the tape violated his First Amendment rights. So basically, that “private brawl” centered on House business and the First Amendment.

I mention it because in all the discussion on these threads regarding Cruz’s employment in the private sector, and those particulars of his being tasked with helping to prepare testimony for the Clinton impeachment while he was at that firm, no one ever mentioned his first major private client, John Boehner, and the fact that he won that First Amendment case, garnering a $1 million plus settlement on a 4-1 split en banc decision, as the case had been on its way to the Supreme Court.

While there’s been a great deal of discussion regarding Cruz’s public career, there’s been very little discussion regarding his private sector practice.

thatsafactjack on February 11, 2016 at 10:54 AM

Spending in NH

Bush $36.1m
Christie $18.5m
Rubio $15.2m
Kasich $12.1m
Clinton $10.8m
Sanders $8.1m
Trump $3.7m
Graham $3.2m
Fiorina $1.8m
Paul $831k
Cruz $580k
Carson $575k
Pataki $374k

Total $111.9m

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 10:59 AM

So basically, that “private brawl” centered on House business and the First Amendment.

I mention it because in all the discussion on these threads regarding Cruz’s employment in the private sector, and those particulars of his being tasked with helping to prepare testimony for the Clinton impeachment while he was at that firm, no one ever mentioned his first major private client, John Boehner, and the fact that he won that First Amendment case, garnering a $1 million plus settlement on a 4-1 split en banc decision, as the case had been on its way to the Supreme Court.

While there’s been a great deal of discussion regarding Cruz’s public career, there’s been very little discussion regarding his private sector practice.

thatsafactjack on February 11, 2016 at 10:54 AM

OK.

With a few other people, he’s stopped citizenship for illegals, stopped international courts from exercising jurisdiction within the United States, stopped Algore from stealing a Presidential election, pushed back encroachment on the second amendment, and so on. Yet they call him “Harvard lawyer” and dismiss him, even inexplicably demanding to know what he’s ever accomplished, even scare quoting his “legal experience.”

Maybe that’s why that looks like a private brawl to me, held up against the other things that he’s done.

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 11:08 AM

Axe on February 11, 2016 at 11:08 AM

There has been a great deal of discussion on these thread by several commenters regarding those achievements and accomplishments that convince them to cast their ballot, and campaign, for their candidate of choice.

I’ve vetted each candidate thoroughly,looking at their background, their qualifications, their achievements and accomplishments, the questionable elements of their careers, and their failings, both public and personal.

I’ve refrained from joining in this campaign specifically because either Trump or Cruz will serve that goal. My goal is to see the lock the establishment has had on the process broken, preferably without the formation of a third party.

That being said, hyper-partisanship, as expressed on these threads, twitter, and other social media platforms, is driving many potential voters away from the only two candidates capable of achieving that goal.

thatsafactjack on February 11, 2016 at 11:35 AM

I was thinking about what I would do this year on Father’s Day. I found some cards bought for the occasion and his upcoming birthday. Wouldn’t you know I had to smile…I realized if I sent them, they would go to the dead letter office.

We can all be smile millionaires, sharing the gift of joy with one another. We can cultivate the gift of a sense of humor. It truly is a gift that keeps on giving.

“May the farce be with you!”
We who laugh…last!!!
If Laughter is contagious…let’s start an epidemic!
A smile is the shortest distance between two people ~ Victor Borge

nuclearoptional on February 11, 2016 at 1:34 AM

Keep them in a precious place for the treasures they are.
Thanks for sharing your memories.

After one of my aunts died, everyone in the family received an envelope from her step-daughter with all of the cards for themselves and their families (all the little kids got their own cards every year, sometimes the only ones they received in the mail) that Aunt F. had already purchased, addressed, and set in order, waiting for the personal greeting and the stamp.
It was very poignant.

AesopFan on February 11, 2016 at 12:26 PM

thatsafactjack on February 11, 2016 at 11:35 AM

My RedNeck view of poliics goes like this….

Throw three bones into the dog pen and the two dogs will fight over all three at first. Finally they grab a bone, devour it as fast as possible, then renew the fight over the last bone.

Best to throw in only two bones to start with and save the trouble.

Hope you are well.

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 12:57 PM

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 12:57 PM

Good afternoon, HonestLib.

Since we don’t vote here until March 1st, I have the luxury of time, so I’m still contemplating those bones as they rest there upon the platter. My concern is that, ultimately, both dogs are well fed, but my desire is that they’re fed with as little permanent injury as absolutely necessary.

thatsafactjack on February 11, 2016 at 2:13 PM

HonestLib on February 11, 2016 at 12:57 PM

PS- I like your analogy very much.

I hope you’re well, too.

thatsafactjack on February 11, 2016 at 2:18 PM

thatsafactjack on February 11, 2016 at 12:16 PM

Perfect for our times J.

Schadenfreude on February 11, 2016 at 5:31 PM

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