How Bernie Sanders lost the New Hampshire primary

posted at 6:01 pm on February 10, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

As you may recall, the Iowa Democrat caucus ended with Hillary Clinton allegedly holding a lead of roughly one quarter of one percent of the total number of micro-delegates or bitcoins or quarks or whatever it is they measure them in. (Not that it matters, since they won’t tell you how many people voted anyway.) In any event, Clinton and Sanders were essentially tied. Then we headed over to New Hampshire with its 24 pledged Democrat delegates. Sanders blew Clinton’s doors off there, taking roughly 60% of the votes. So at this point the delegate race should be pretty close, with only a slight edge for Bernie. Unfortunately, we had a good estimate last night of how the score really stands. (US News)

Bernie Sanders will win at least 13 of the Democratic delegates in New Hampshire and Hillary Clinton will win at least nine. Two delegates haven’t yet been allocated…

Sanders has 42 delegates.

In the overall race for delegates, Clinton has 394.

So after a tie in Iowa and a strong win in New Hampshire, Sanders is only losing the delegate race by 352.

Wait.. what?

If you thought the way the Democrats count the votes in Iowa is messed up, that’s nothing compared to the way they wrangle their delegates. The Daily Caller has a good breakdown of this farce which takes place every four years.

New Hampshire has 24 “pledged” delegates, which are allotted based on the popular vote. Sanders has 13, and Clinton has 9, with 2 currently allotted to neither.

But under Democratic National Committee rules, New Hampshire also has 8 “superdelegates,” party officials who are free to commit to whomever they like, regardless of how their state votes. Their votes count the same as delegates won through the primary.

New Hampshire has 8 superdelegates, 6 of which are committed to Hillary Clinton, giving her a total of 15 delegates from New Hampshire as of Wednesday at 9 a.m.

The state’s 2 remaining superdelegates remain uncommitted.

For the real wonks out there who have never looked into it, amNewYork has a fairly good set of links explaining all of the byzantine Democrat rules. The bottom line is that the Democrat nominee will need 2.382 delegates to carry the day at their convention as compared to the 1.237 the GOP requires. But if the Democrat establishment doesn’t like you (read: if you are Bernie Sanders) you are starting out with a huge hill to climb no matter how much the voters like you. You’ll have to not only muster enough support to outnumber your opponent’s vote count, but enough beyond that to defeat the built in firewall represented by the superdelegates.

Lest we go away thinking the GOP is pure as the driven snow, they have some floating delegates as well, but the number is a lot lower than that of the Democrats. There are three RNC-member delegates for each state and an additional set of bonus delegates which are assigned based on an arcane formula fully understood by at least a dozen people in the country. (I’m just guessing here, but I don’t imagine a lot of them are wearing Make America Great Again ball caps or TrusTed lapel pins.) But even for those extras and bonuses, the GOP formula is still miles closer to being an accurate reflection of the voters’ wishes than the Democrats’ method.

Good luck, Bernie. You may have to win all 57 states in a landslide to take Hillary out.

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LOL.

Bernie could win every state and still lose to Hillary. Hilarious.

NWConservative on February 10, 2016 at 6:04 PM

The bottom line is that the Democrat nominee will need 2.382 delegates to carry the day at their convention as compared to the 1.237 the GOP requires.

Make that 2,382 and 1,237, with commas instead of decimals.

J.S.K. on February 10, 2016 at 6:05 PM

So after a tie in Iowa and a strong win in New Hampshire, Sanders is only losing the delegate race by 352.

Must… resist… making a common core joke…

Myron Falwell on February 10, 2016 at 6:06 PM

That all sounds fair to me. It fits right in with the Einstein Theory of Donk Mechanics.

Limerick on February 10, 2016 at 6:06 PM

LOL.

Bernie could win every state and still lose to Hillary. Hilarious.

NWConservative on February 10, 2016 at 6:04 PM

Best. Convention. EVAH!

Nethicus on February 10, 2016 at 6:06 PM

The Democratic Party is as democratic as the People’s Democratic Republic of Korea.

rbj on February 10, 2016 at 6:06 PM

If Bernie looks to be winning yet they coronate Hillary, a lot of Bernie supporters will probably stay home in November.

Dick Richard on February 10, 2016 at 6:07 PM

Hillary sent to each super delegate a signed post card of Fort Marcy Park…

d1carter on February 10, 2016 at 6:09 PM

A socialist defeated by central planning? Who dafuq is he supposed to complain to?

M240H on February 10, 2016 at 6:10 PM

Best. Convention. EVAH!

Nethicus on February 10, 2016 at 6:06 PM

See. They can vote, it doesn’t mean that the party will listent. The party just adjusts the delegate count totals to where they think the delegate counts should really be.

NWConservative on February 10, 2016 at 6:10 PM

Vince and Linda McMahon may be Republicans, but this is a classic example of a WWE-style “shoot screwjob.”

Myron Falwell on February 10, 2016 at 6:10 PM

Paying your fair share. Spreading the wealth around.
The socialist raised five million overnight. I hope he make sure to send his wallet to Hillary.
It’s the only fair thing to do.

Pops more popcorn.

HornetSting on February 10, 2016 at 6:11 PM

We would be fortunate to run against Bernie. I still don’t see that happening.

terryannonline on February 10, 2016 at 6:11 PM

Nothing an indie run by Bernie wouldn’t fix.

Bern, baby, if you’re reading this just keep that in mind, you could probably win the Big Chair running as an indie if Killary and her mega-bank buddies unfairly shut you and your obviously intelligent supporters out. The people deserve to be heard.

Bishop on February 10, 2016 at 6:14 PM

Who needs primaries when the Democrat nominee will be decided by Debbie Washherhair Slutz?

Steve Z on February 10, 2016 at 6:15 PM

Being lucky at coin tosses sure has it advantages.

antipc on February 10, 2016 at 6:16 PM

We would be fortunate to run against Bernie. I still don’t see that happening.

terryannonline on February 10, 2016 at 6:11 pm

That’s the inherent irony. The Democrats are trying to save themselves from themselves, and it’s pretty obvious now.

Myron Falwell on February 10, 2016 at 6:17 PM

Bishop on February 10, 2016 at 6:14 PM

Are you back on Kasich then?

HornetSting on February 10, 2016 at 6:17 PM

Who is that .237 GOP delegate – quadruple amputee?
Actually, more like just a head and nothing else……

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2016 at 6:18 PM

Being lucky at coin tosses sure has it advantages.

antipc on February 10, 2016 at 6:16 PM

Come to think of it she was pretty lucky in the futures market as well.

antipc on February 10, 2016 at 6:18 PM

I’m hoping for Trump vs Bernie. No matter who wins, the establishment of both parties will lose. I think that’s good for America.

KingOfTheRoad on February 10, 2016 at 6:19 PM

So Iowa has 385 Dem delegates?

dentarthurdent on February 10, 2016 at 6:20 PM

Nothing an indie run by Bernie wouldn’t fix.

Bern, baby, if you’re reading this just keep that in mind, you could probably win the Big Chair running as an indie if Killary and her mega-bank buddies unfairly shut you and your obviously intelligent supporters out. The people deserve to be heard.

Bishop on February 10, 2016 at 6:14 PM

You are so right. Bernie, Hillary, Bloomberg, and Trump. The anti-Trump split 3 ways.

Oil Can on February 10, 2016 at 6:20 PM

The socialist / communist is the most leftist senator in the US, period. This is sick. And scary.

The maniac thinks that he can go further and further left into the communist / Stalinist continuum and he can only benefit. And the one thing Hillary seems unable to do is effectively call out the old nutcase for his insane radicalism. Hillary shows here incompetence in her inability to dispense with the easy target in front of her.

anotherJoe on February 10, 2016 at 6:20 PM

It’s funny. My husband was ranting about this earlier with just the delegates they got in NH.

Not that he likes either one of them, just wants Sanders to beat Hillary.

Wait til I tell him the real numbers. :)

Barred on February 10, 2016 at 6:22 PM

I’m sick and tired of this erroneous reference to 57 states.

Obama said he had one left to go, and he wasn’t allowed to go to Alaska and Hawaii. That makes 60 states. Get it right from now on, please.

The Rogue Tomato on February 10, 2016 at 6:24 PM

And again…

… the ‘Media’ is OK with it.

Seven Percent Solution on February 10, 2016 at 6:25 PM

The bottom line is that the Democrat nominee will need 2.382 delegates to carry the day at their convention as compared to the 1.237 the GOP requires.

How do you get three hundred eighty-two thousandths (or two hundred thirty-seven thousandths) of a delegate?

bgoldman on February 10, 2016 at 6:25 PM

No offense, Bern, but how fair were Soviet elections when you and the wife honeymooned there?

Seth Halpern on February 10, 2016 at 6:27 PM

David Burge [email protected] 6h6 hours ago

Q: Sanders got 146k votes in NH, Clinton got 93k; yet she will get 15 delegates, and he only 13. Why?
A: Fairness.

IDontCair on February 10, 2016 at 6:27 PM

David Burge [email protected] 8h8 hours ago

.@Neoavatara Bernie Sanders fans are so happy and celebratory, it seems a shame to tell them he actually lost.

IDontCair on February 10, 2016 at 6:29 PM

Excellent commentary Jazz.

Obviously those tight with the party already knew this. I wonder how many others will be surprised. Of those, I wonder if any will be outraged.

Yah……I know.

Talon on February 10, 2016 at 6:29 PM

Just watch – If either Trump or Cruz win the primary I’ll bet the GOPe will change the rules to be more like the Democrats by the next presidential primary…more big fat establishment embedded Super delegates…

..can’t have those pesky working class taxpayers picking the candidate – that’s not in the COC or big business’s best interest – and thats who is ultimately running the GOP party..

celt on February 10, 2016 at 6:29 PM

Obama said he had one left to go, and he wasn’t allowed to go to Alaska and Hawaii. That makes 60 states. Get it right from now on, please.

The Rogue Tomato on February 10, 2016 at 6:24 PM

Wasn’t he born in Hawaii, I think that would count as visiting……Oh wait.

Corsair on February 10, 2016 at 6:33 PM

Once again the Democrats are ahead of the game. We’re sitting here looking at the Democrats as devious when in reality we should have a similar system in place… would be nice to stop Trump.

eski502 on February 10, 2016 at 6:35 PM

If Bernie looks to be winning yet they coronate Hillary, a lot of Bernie supporters will probably stay home in November.

Dick Richard on February 10, 2016 at 6:07 PM

Maybe a little rioting too.

DarkCurrent on February 10, 2016 at 6:35 PM

Of course if the Dowager Empress is given the nomination by the DNC despite overwhelming support given to The Bern, there could be enough pissed off Democrats who decided to stay home come November.

GarandFan on February 10, 2016 at 6:35 PM

Hillary sent to each super delegate a signed post card of Fort Marcy Park…
d1carter on February 10, 2016 at 6:09 PM

“Wish you were here”

Marcola on February 10, 2016 at 6:36 PM

The socialist / communist is the most leftist senator in the US, period. This is sick. And scary.

Actually I think there used to be four democrats that had a worse voting record than he did. One was BHO. Yet when he was campaigning everyone tried to push the meme that he was a moderate. Which was why those that paid attention were saying from the beginning that he was a full blown socialist and would work to destroy America.

Corsair on February 10, 2016 at 6:37 PM

So after a tie in Iowa and a strong win in New Hampshire, Sanders is only losing the delegate race by 352.

Sort of reminds one of that scene in the “Wizard of Oz” where the Wicked Witch overflies the Emerald City on her broom and skywrites in black smoke the words “Surrender Bernie.”

FlameWarrior on February 10, 2016 at 6:37 PM

So the Democrats have what amounts to an Electoral College for their Primaries where the Electors do not have to vote the way the State votes. Nice way to rig an election to get the person you want to win.

Typical Liberal modus operandi and Stalin would be proud. “It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.”

Johnnyreb on February 10, 2016 at 6:39 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaeiEojUYAA0B1P.jpg

IDontCair on February 10, 2016 at 6:40 PM

How do you get three hundred eighty-two thousandths (or two hundred thirty-seven thousandths) of a delegate?

bgoldman on February 10, 2016 at 6:25 PM

Vigorous use of a veg-o-matic slicer & dicer?

Mahdi on February 10, 2016 at 6:40 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca2qVYRUMAA65Z3.jpg

IDontCair on February 10, 2016 at 6:42 PM

Sort of reminds one of that scene in the “Wizard of Oz” where the Wicked Witch overflies the Emerald City on her broom and skywrites in black smoke the words “Surrender Bernie.”

FlameWarrior on February 10, 2016 at 6:37 PM

That witch is Hillary Clinton….
;-)

albill on February 10, 2016 at 6:44 PM

Damn voter ID laws. Always killing democracy.

guido911 on February 10, 2016 at 6:46 PM

Bernie will need to get his cohorts from Cuba, et al, to do the delegate counting for him.

vnvet on February 10, 2016 at 6:48 PM

Rigged.

22044 on February 10, 2016 at 6:50 PM

haha oh the Irony here. The socialist has undeserving person who comes in and takes their stuff.

SDRightWinger on February 10, 2016 at 6:52 PM

Nice way to make Democrats to stay home come November.

ArthurMachado on February 10, 2016 at 6:54 PM

DarkCurrent on February 10, 2016 at 6:35 PM

Well – conventional wisdom says that the BLM crowd prefers Hillary, so the rioting probably wouldn’t happen. But if Bern can get SC, maybe they would join him too. Then we would get some first class rioting!

Zomcon JEM on February 10, 2016 at 6:54 PM

James O’Keefe [email protected] 10h10 hours ago

IN NEW HIDDEN CAM VIDEO: @SenSanders officials offer MANCHESTER OFFICE as living address for out of state voters! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlDgOIdD3BY&feature=youtu.be

IDontCair on February 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM

Once again the Democrats are ahead of the game. We’re sitting here looking at the Democrats as devious when in reality we should have a similar system in place… would be nice to stop Trump.

eski502 on February 10, 2016 at 6:35 PM

Switch parties then. I mean letting the average Joe select his government isn’t important, right?

Dick Richard on February 10, 2016 at 7:03 PM

Once again the Democrats are ahead of the game. We’re sitting here looking at the Democrats as devious when in reality we should have a similar system in place… would be nice to stop Trump.

eski502

Yeah…that darned system of representatives chosen freely by the electorate really gets in the way of efficiency, is it not so, Comrade Eski?

A group of people as gullible and politically docile as liberal Democrats deserve their Stalinist system of candidate selection. One would like to think that Republicans are modestly more independent. Except for the ones we put in office, that is.

orangemtl on February 10, 2016 at 7:05 PM

And yet it’s Democrats who are always screeching about how we should ditch the electoral college.

86 on February 10, 2016 at 7:07 PM

Imagine if this were the Republican party doing this.

Can’t you just see the frothing stories from Huffingtonpost write themselves?

Remember WHY primaries were created over caucuses? Anyone? Bueller? To wrest control of the dominant political parties away from the political backroom bosses who picked kings. Who would be the first at the podium claiming they care about the people Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? That’s right Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

Why DID Bernie Sanders have an hour long meeting with Obama before the Iowa caucuses?

King making?

DEMOCRATs?

Riiight.

And yet… I don’t see anyone on Think Progress making a peep…

Skywise on February 10, 2016 at 7:07 PM

I wonder if The Bern is actually aware of and understands this situation…

ExpressoBold on February 10, 2016 at 7:17 PM

The DNC is going to start allocating 67 cents out of every dollar of Bernie donations to the Hillary campaign.

It’s only fair.

People like Bernie. Not Hillary. So it’s only fair to stack the deck with super delegates. Equality for all.

Oxymoron on February 10, 2016 at 7:17 PM

Just saw Trump 2016 bumper sticker on a car! My first so was totally curious….
Range Rover, Columbia University sticker driving in Harlem. Couldn’t see sex of driver :-/

Talk about big tent!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on February 10, 2016 at 7:20 PM

“Now this is Gold, Jerry!”

New Hampshire Sexists Voted For Bernie!

Yep, the real reason Hillario! failed in NH was because we’re all a buncha women-hating sexists up here.

The fact that NH currently has a 2-term Female Governor (Democrat), a Female Senior US Senator (Democrat), a Female Junior US Senator (Republican), and a Female US Representative (Democrat) is meaningless to the “writer” of this nonsense.

Oh, and here’s what the “disclaimer” at the bottom of this steaming heap lets us know:

Bryce Covert is economic policy editor at ThinkProgress. Her spouse works for the Clinton campaign.

Can’t make this stuff up…..

Del Dolemonte on February 10, 2016 at 7:34 PM

It’s just some redistribution of delegates, Comrade Sanders.
Boom. How you like it now?

justltl on February 10, 2016 at 7:40 PM

Trump should point this out…scream that Bernie is getting s$rewed by Hillary and the Democrat Party just to cause chaos in the Democrat Party. Trump than can win either way: He can be seen as the savior of Bernie (and honest elections) thus making Trump the kingmaker of the Democrats (LOL), or if Bernie still gets shorted as expected Trump can make a play for those who have been betrayed, or at least get them to stay home.

Epic either way.

William Eaton on February 10, 2016 at 7:42 PM

Vince and Linda McMahon may be Republicans, but this is a classic example of a WWE-style “shoot screwjob.”

Myron Falwell on February 10, 2016 at 6:10 PM

Yeah, before this is over, someone is going through a table.

BallisticBob on February 10, 2016 at 7:51 PM

So after a tie in Iowa and a strong win in New Hampshire, Sanders is only losing the delegate race by 352.

Wait.. what?

It’s not like the superdelegates are a secret or anything. I alone have pointed many times to the 538 page that explains the relevance of endorsements and lists who is winning the endorsement race (hint- Hillery, by a LOT).

Tlaloc on February 10, 2016 at 7:53 PM

Hey, it’s just like they do the general election… except instead of digging up dead people, they dig up “superdelegates”! Oh, and I wonder if that postcard H.C. sent to the superdelegates might have featured a morgue with a toe tag in case they had any thoughts of voting for Sanders…

UnderstandingisPower on February 10, 2016 at 7:58 PM

And also, isn’t this what Bernie wanted with our tax dollars? After all, those votes weren’t HIS, they were OURS. Put them all in the pot, and everyone gets their fair share… See how that works?!

UnderstandingisPower on February 10, 2016 at 8:00 PM

So the Democrats have what amounts to an Electoral College for their Primaries where the Electors do not have to vote the way the State votes. Nice way to rig an election to get the person you want to win.

Johnnyreb on February 10, 2016 at 6:39 PM

Imagine how jealous the RNC is that the DNC can actually control its own nomination process.

Tlaloc on February 10, 2016 at 8:02 PM

Those hoping Dems stay home in November just because the DNC decided to coronate Hillary over Bernie and thwart the will of Dem voters are in for a rude surprise.

You may recall a rather acrimonious primary between BO and HRC. I recall a phrase “PUMA” – “Party Unity My Ass”. We heard all kinds of BS how the party was split.

So, we can expect the Dems to fall right in line once the Politburo tells them how to vote.

Dems certainly aren’t sweating like the GOP is right now.

goflyers on February 10, 2016 at 8:06 PM

But wait….we should “share” the votes, right Bernie? After all the only way for you to pay for all that “free” stuff is to share our income! It’s the same thing. I mean, come on…fair is fair! Or…socialism really sucks!

fbcmusicman on February 10, 2016 at 8:08 PM

Dems certainly aren’t sweating like the GOP is right now.

goflyers on February 10, 2016 at 8:06 PM

Pretty much, yeah.

Tlaloc on February 10, 2016 at 8:12 PM

Imagine how jealous the RNC is that the DNC can actually control its own nomination process.

Tlaloc on February 10, 2016 at 8:02 PM

You really are quite the little fascist brownshirt, aren’t you?

Bat Chain Puller on February 10, 2016 at 8:35 PM

You really are quite the little fascist brownshirt, aren’t you?

Bat Chain Puller on February 10, 2016 at 8:35 PM

Yeah, a party maintaining some control over it’s own nomination process is exactly like the nazis.

In case my sarcasm above didn’t convey the underlying message- you’re an idiot.

Tlaloc on February 10, 2016 at 8:39 PM

If Bernie continues to defeat Hillary in the vote count and she takes the delegates for the win Bernie Bros and Hoes will have a fit. I see a revolt on the horizon.

Africanus on February 10, 2016 at 8:55 PM

is Hillary going to have to wear an ankle bracelet to run? and is Bernie going to have his own politburo?

Senator Philip Bluster on February 10, 2016 at 9:00 PM

If this becomes a manifest issue there is going to be serious fallout. The Dems as well as the Pubs are experiencing a lot of alienation in the base. Remember the PUMAs back in 2008, who felt obama had stolen the nomination from their darling Hillary? That will be nothing compared to this actual theft, especially considering that many of those PUMAs presumably have chilled toward Hillary as her profound character flaws are increasingly revealed.

paul1149 on February 10, 2016 at 9:19 PM

I hope all those super delegates feel good about voting for a candidate who’s under indictment.

bflat879 on February 10, 2016 at 9:25 PM

Sort of reminds one of that scene in the “Wizard of Oz” where the Wicked Witch overflies the Emerald City on her broom and skywrites in black smoke the words “Surrender Bernie.”

FlameWarrior on February 10, 2016 at 6:37 PM

Nice Shot!

HatfieldMcCoy on February 10, 2016 at 9:25 PM

Would Bernie have won the election if he had gotten Fewer votes than Mrs Clinton?

TimBuk3 on February 10, 2016 at 9:47 PM

Imagine how jealous the RNC is that the DNC can actually control its own nomination process.

Tlaloc on February 10, 2016 at 8:02 PM

Why bother having a primary then?

Just coronation and be done with it. After all, you’ve already rationalized why they don’t care about their voters, just make it official.

nobar on February 10, 2016 at 9:50 PM

So after a tie in Iowa and a strong win in New Hampshire, Sanders is only losing the delegate race by 352.

Must… resist… making a common core joke…

Myron Falwell on February 10, 2016 at 6:06 PM

Give in to the Dark Side…

haha oh the Irony here. The socialist has undeserving person who comes in and takes their stuff.

SDRightWinger on February 10, 2016 at 6:52 PM

Karma bites.

Just saw Trump 2016 bumper sticker on a car! My first so was totally curious….
Range Rover, Columbia University sticker driving in Harlem. Couldn’t see sex of driver :-/

Talk about big tent!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on February 10, 2016 at 7:20 PM

No one in the RNC knows anyone voting for Trump…it said so in the Headlines this morning.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2582918

In late January, the New Hampshire Republican Party held a gathering that attracted GOP officials, volunteers, activists, and various other members of the party elite from across the state. At the time, Donald Trump led the Republican presidential race in New Hampshire by nearly 20 points, and had been on top of the polls since July.

What was extraordinary about the gathering was that I talked to a lot of people there, politically active Republicans, and most of them told me they personally didn’t know anyone who supported Trump. Asked about the Trump lead, one very well-connected New Hampshire Republican told me, “I don’t see it. I don’t feel it. I don’t hear it, and I spend part of every day with Republican voters.”

Readers of the story came to one of two conclusions. Either New Hampshire Republican leaders were so out of touch that they couldn’t tell something huge was happening right under their noses, or there really weren’t very many Trump voters, and the Trump phenomenon was a mirage that would fade before election day.

Now, with Trump’s smashing victory in the New Hampshire primary, we know the answer. There really were a lot of Trump voters out there, and party officials could not, or did not want, to see them.

AesopFan on February 10, 2016 at 10:45 PM

http://projectveritasaction.com/video/undercover-video-shows-it%E2%80%99s-still-very-easy-commit-voter-fraud-new-hampshire

IDontCair on February 10, 2016 at 6:56 PM

That’s really rather frightening.

Donna Waterman, Bernie Sanders Campaign Staffer: It’s incredibly easy. Like, I think in many ways New Hampshire is incredibly proud of their first in the nation primary, and for that reason they make all of these really lax laws, surrounding voting, so people can, like, take advantage of it.
Journalist: Why doesn’t just every volunteer, like, ever in the office, just…
Staffer: Bernie Sanders, Campaign Staffer: I think they all have honestly. And like, all of our paid canvassers have done it. It’s very, very easy.
Journalist: It almost seems like it’s more, it’s better to have people from out of state. Because they can do that and it’s like more votes.
Staffer: Yeah. Like I said. I don’t know the legality of it. Perhaps it’s voter fraud.

IF Sanders’ campaign is doing outright fraud, what is Clinton’s campaign doing?

AesopFan on February 10, 2016 at 10:48 PM

Tialoc …so much for the will of the people. Lol. You’re a hoot and a pos.

CWforFreedom on February 10, 2016 at 10:59 PM

Remember, those hundreds of super delegates for Hillary can turn on a dime and support Bernie or Biden or Barney the Dinosaur if Hillary becomes a liability such as an indictment or enough people realizing that she isn’t honest (see NH exit polls).

yetanotherjohn on February 10, 2016 at 11:37 PM

What is worse on the ears? Fingernails on a chalkboard or a Hillary Clinton ‘Victory’ speech?

BigAlSouth on February 11, 2016 at 7:27 AM

The D process of counting delegates make me want to laugh at all those D rubes who went out in a blizzard to vote for either the old commie or the old lying hag. At the end of the day their votes don’t matter and they don’t even know it.

Kissmygrits on February 11, 2016 at 9:12 AM

Democrats don’t care if it is rigged. The grubers like being lied to and being led by crooks. It’s in their DNA or something.

earlgrey on February 11, 2016 at 12:16 PM

Imagine how jealous the RNC is that the DNC can actually control its own nomination process serfs.

Tlaloc on February 10, 2016 at 8:02 PM

S. D. on February 11, 2016 at 5:40 PM