Who’s up for some dubious internal polling showing Kasich passing Rubio for second in New Hampshire?

posted at 11:21 am on February 8, 2016 by Allahpundit

We’re 24 hours out from an election. At this point, there’s no poll too dubious to blog. Besides, there’s something here for everyone. If you’re a Rubio critic, you may commence high-fiving at the thought that his “Rubot” malfunction during the debate on Saturday night did real damage to him in New Hampshire. If you’re a Rubio fan, this is little more than a fart in the wind, something to help lower expectations and make his impressive second-place finish tomorrow look that much more impressive.

I think the fans will end up having the better of this one. Rubio has a good ground game, and it’s hard for me to believe three bad minutes at one debate are going to push too many people off the fence the other way.

The poll, conducted by the pro-John Kasich New Day for America Super PAC, shows Rubio plummeting to fourth place in the primary here, with 10 percent of the vote. Most of the polling conducted in the immediate days before the debate showed Rubio in second place…

Donald Trump holds a wide lead in the survey, receiving 35 percent. He more than doubles runner-up Kasich, who has 15 percent. In third is Jeb Bush, with 13 percent. Behind Rubio in fifth and sixth place, respectively, are Christie and Ted Cruz. Both receive 8 percent.

Kasich ahead of Bush and Bush ahead of Rubio, eh? Well, hey — it’s just one poll. Of course a poll for Kasich’s own Super PAC is going to show him doing well.

Except … what if it’s not just one poll?

Conversations on the ground with campaign insiders in New Hampshire have revealed that Kasich has done the most to separate himself from the pack in the wake of Saturday night’s debate. While the situation remains fluid, three separate campaign entities, not all of which are aligned with Kasich, say that according to internal polls, he has risen to a strong second place behind Donald Trump.

“We had a very good surge — it was of an extent that I’m nervous about it,” said one source close to Kasich.

Is there any evidence yet of this Kasich surge in independent surveys? Nope. Rubio was down a point overnight in the ARG tracking poll — but so was Kasich, leaving them tied at 16. Rubio also dropped a point in the UMass/7News tracker while Kasich gained a point, but that still leaves Rubio tied with Cruz at 13 percent for second place, three points ahead of Kasich. Then again, what kind of reliable sample are you likely to get polling people not just on a Sunday but on Super Bowl Sunday? This evening’s polls will be better.

Now, a question. Realistically, based on the numbers that are out there, is there any chance at this point that we’re going to end up with the three-man race in South Carolina that people thought might develop after Iowa? The theory was that if Trump and Rubio finished 1-2 in New Hampshire, with Bush, Kasich, and Christie also-rans in single digits, that would eliminate the latter two men (who’ve staked everything on a good showing in NH) and would put severe pressure on Bush to get out rather than damage Rubio against the populist menace in SC. Christie’s probably done tomorrow night given his terrible polling recently but it seems increasingly likely that Kasich will crack double digits and may well finish in the high teens or even low 20s. (He’s already in the mid-teens in more than one poll.) If he ends up a narrow third to Rubio, why wouldn’t he keep going to South Carolina? Likewise, Jeb has hovered around 10 percent in NH for so long that it won’t take much for him to claim a “good” showing tomorrow that justifies continuing the campaign. Fifteen percent, say, might be all the encouragement he needs, especially given South Carolina’s fondness for Bushes and the fact that Dubya’s going to bat for him there. Unless Rubio wildly outperforms not just his current polling but the competition’s polling, it seems all but certain that the center-right lane will remain crowded in SC between him, Kasich, and possibly Jeb. How does Rubio win a race with Trump and Cruz there when he’s being squeezed from the right and the left?

Which brings us to another question. If Rubio finishes third, say, in South Carolina, how many more shots at a primary win does he get before people start writing him off? He’s still got Nevada, his supposed firewall, after South Carolina, but Cruz is expected to challenge him there (it’s a caucus state after all) and Trump would have major momentum if he won New Hampshire and South Carolina. After that comes the SEC primary, where Trump and Cruz are expected to fare best, and then Florida, but who knows if even that will save him if he’s still without a win at that point. Even if he wins FL, you can guess the spin afterward: “A win in your home state means nothing.” His path to the nomination depends on him becoming the one clear alternative to Trump and Cruz as soon as possible. Unless the polling in New Hampshire is wildly wrong, that’ll have to wait for at least one more state.

In lieu of an exit question, a reminder: The polling in New Hampshire is often wildly wrong.


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No one was expecting 43,000 people to vote for Rubio in the Iowa caucus, 3000 more than Huckabee won with in 2008, and nearly enough to knock Trump out of second.

I still think the fix is in, but evidently Jeb?/Christie/Kasich is not going away quietly.

It will be a new fix for NH, ¡Yeb! or Kasich.

Then Rubio will somehow magically “rebound” in SC.

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 1:34 PM

Rubio must finish 4th or below. In fact, I wish some of the Trump folks would switch their vote to whomever is polling right above Rubio just to force Rubio down more.

Rubio must be kept from getting any momentum going into South Carolina.

portlardon on February 8, 2016 at 12:37 PM

You can’t make this stuff up folks.

A rational Cruz supporter would advocate his fellow Cruz supporters to switch their vote, because NH is unimportant to Cruz, and keeping Rubio down is the goal.

I haven’t seen one Cruz supporter advocate this. Instead, they want Trumpers to vote Cruz or “whomever”, despite Trump’s double digit lead.

Joseph K on February 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM

Rubio reminds me of Romney.
Rehearsed answers for every question.
He seems like a robot

weedisgood on February 8, 2016 at 1:41 PM

If anyone has to register for the draft, EVERYONE should have to register for the draft.

No exceptions.

ConstantineXI on February 8, 2016 at 1:44 PM

Thanks to reading Hot Air, I now know that a coke head anchor baby is a true conservative.

Thanks AP!

Magicjava on February 8, 2016 at 1:45 PM

Rush has been fluffing Rubes for over an hour now.

Somebody call into Rush and ask him why Rubio supported amnesty both as speaker of the Florida House and the Gang of Eight.

How have his core beliefs changed?

Like Romney and Romneycare, Rubio never apologized for his single legislative achievement.

Valiant on February 8, 2016 at 1:46 PM

He seems like a robot

weedisgood on February 8, 2016 at 1:41 PM

Yes this is the new MSM meme. Just another attempt at taking out a republican front runner. I will care about what the MSM/democrats say the day after they declare that Hillary “seems like a dishonest person”.

dirtseller on February 8, 2016 at 1:47 PM

kasich – 19, trump 19, cruz, 19, rubio 15, christie, 15, bush 15….

reliapundit on February 8, 2016 at 1:47 PM

kasich – 19, trump 19, cruz, 19, rubio 15, christie, 15, bush 15….

reliapundit on February 8, 2016 at 1:47 PM

Prediction or poll?

dirtseller on February 8, 2016 at 1:49 PM

If Rubio falls to third or worse, it’s hard to see a scenario where he recovers to win this thing. He’s already behind the 8-ball in SC. Will an underwhelming result in NH help in SC? Probably not.

Then we’re off to Super Tuesday and a bunch of states that don’t really set up well for Rubio either.

What does the establishment do then? Do they support Trump to stop Cruz? They might.

Atlantian on February 8, 2016 at 1:57 PM

If Rubio falls to third or worse, it’s hard to see a scenario where he recovers to win this thing. He’s already behind the 8-ball in SC. Will an underwhelming result in NH help in SC? Probably not.

Then we’re off to Super Tuesday and a bunch of states that don’t really set up well for Rubio either.

What does the establishment do then? Do they support Trump to stop Cruz? They might.

Atlantian on February 8, 2016 at 1:57 PM

It means Bush still has a chance.

History tells us it will either be Bush, Rubio or Kasich as the nominee.

weedisgood on February 8, 2016 at 2:05 PM

You can’t make this stuff up folks.

A rational Cruz supporter would advocate his fellow Cruz supporters to switch their vote, because NH is unimportant to Cruz, and keeping Rubio down is the goal.

I haven’t seen one Cruz supporter advocate this. Instead, they want Trumpers to vote Cruz or “whomever”, despite Trump’s double digit lead.

Joseph K on February 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM

I’m saying that Trump has a double digit lead. He can expend a few votes in order to keep Rubio in the bottom 4. Not vote for Cruz. Cruz is probably 4th or 5th.

portlandon on February 8, 2016 at 2:06 PM

A Kasich surge and a very strong 2cnd is good for Trump.
If the estab is going to coalesce then please let it be Kasich.
I’m surprised Christie isn’t showing a surge.
Maybe too many in NH know how bad the economy is in NJ.

BoxHead1 on February 8, 2016 at 2:09 PM

Like Romney and Romneycare, Rubio never apologized for his single legislative achievement.

Valiant on February 8, 2016 at 1:46 PM

The immigration reform legislation promoted by the GO8 is a legislative achievement the way an abortion is a reproductive achievement.

Immolate on February 8, 2016 at 2:10 PM

Kasich believes that Medicaid actually improves patient health status. That should tell you something.

butch on February 8, 2016 at 2:10 PM

History tells us it will either be Bush, Rubio or Kasich as the nominee.

weedisgood on February 8, 2016 at 2:05 PM

Nope, history doesn’t tell us that at all. Republican candidates that don’t win either IA, NH or SC don’t win the nomination. Romney, McCain, Bush, Dole, Bush, Reagan all won at least one early primary.

Bush, Rubio and Kasich won’t win any. Bush and Rubio won’t even win their own home state. They’re not going to be the nominee.

Atlantian on February 8, 2016 at 2:11 PM

Honest question: why aren’t Rubio people flocking to Chistie?

Skipity on February 8, 2016 at 2:13 PM

Rubio reminds me of Romney.
Rehearsed answers for every question.
He seems like a robot

weedisgood on February 8, 2016 at 1:41 PM

Let me introduce you to TOTUS.

butch on February 8, 2016 at 2:13 PM

que bueno y excelente!!!!!!!

NO MORE BETA MALES IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pragmatic on February 8, 2016 at 2:15 PM

beta male
An unremarkable, careful man who avoids risk and confrontation. Beta males lack the physical presence, charisma and confidence of the Alpha male.

Pragmatic on February 8, 2016 at 2:16 PM

Nate Silver tweeted that he has seen a recent internal poll with GILMORE in second at 17%… and Kasich in 3rd…

Not believing any of it right now… Somebody git me a South Carolina poll

phreshone on February 8, 2016 at 2:18 PM

I hope President Kasich will pick Rubio for VP.

That’s what’s happening in NH right now.

I have no idea what’s going on with the Trump vote, but I’m pretty sure those Kasich numbers are real.

And so are the Rubio numbers, solid.

I am not happy about Kasich, but NH picks Presidents. If Donald wins there, I am going to have to consider voting against Hillary and not for anyone. And that is depressing.

Kasich is boring as heck, but still better than HIllary, and not mean.

Not mean is becoming more important everyday.

I am getting pretty sick of mean. I guess in a race between mean and not mean I’d have to go for Kasich.

Nothing illustrates how far Conservatism has fallen like Kasich. He was in the Reagan revolution and he is a pariah!

That’s why I think this whole “conservative” thing is no Conservative at all, it’s just one group of Evangelicals who think they are riding in on a white horse and saving the country. While really they are destroying the country.

This is politics, not religion.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 2:20 PM

If Rubio falls to third or worse, it’s hard to see a scenario where he recovers to win this thing. He’s already behind the 8-ball in SC. Will an underwhelming result in NH help in SC? Probably not.

Then we’re off to Super Tuesday and a bunch of states that don’t really set up well for Rubio either.

What does the establishment do then? Do they support Trump to stop Cruz? They might.

Atlantian on February 8, 2016 at 1:57 PM

Rubio’s states aren’t until March, he just has to stay in the running until then. If it’s April and he isn’t ahead… maybe.

Remember most states are proportioned, they aren’t winner take all.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 2:23 PM

Nate Silver tweeted that he has seen a recent internal poll with GILMORE in second at 17%… and Kasich in 3rd…

Not believing any of it right now… Somebody git me a South Carolina poll

phreshone on February 8, 2016 at 2:18 PM

He was being ironic, probably questioning the validity of this poll showing Kasich so high.

I have no idea how anyone could watch Kasich’s shambolic debate performances and go, “That! I want that!”.

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 2:25 PM

A Kasich surge and a very strong 2cnd is good for Trump.
If the estab is going to coalesce then please let it be Kasich.

BoxHead1 on February 8, 2016 at 2:09 PM

Just Great. That is a compromise. And it may be the way forward. Which means no excitement about the future, but not hopelessness either.

I think he has an excellent chance in NH. Sigh.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 2:27 PM

The reason Rush agrees with Rubio on who Obama is, is because that is what Rush has said forever. We like having our core beliefs affirmed. I also tend to agree with that – he got ObamaCare passed, he is wiping out coal, he has the EPA regulating everything, the war on women, he is re-instituting racial politics, should I go on?

What is so crazy about suggesting Obama has been effective? Of course he has also gutted the dem party such that what should have been a good dem senatorial year isn’t going to be. But you can’t have everything.

Has Rubio damaged himself on immigration? Yep. Did Rush say that? Yep.

It’s not that difficult you know.

Of course I am still trying to decide if Bishop really likes Kasich or he is playing all of us.

Zomcon JEM on February 8, 2016 at 2:27 PM

I have no idea how anyone could watch Kasich’s shambolic debate performances and go, “That! I want that!”.

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 2:25 PM

Because it’s really not about the debates, if it was Donald Trump wouldn’t even be running anymore since his debates were awful.

It’s because he researched what was important in NH and has hit the themes that work there.

I’ve actually seen at least two that has him ahead of everyone except Trump. And who knows what that Trump number means.

After NH we should have a better idea if Trump is for real.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 2:29 PM

Rubio’s states aren’t until March

Can you name any previous Republican nominee who didn’t win a state until March? Just one?

Santorum didn’t suspend his campaign in 2012 until the first week in April. But, Santorum had won six-states by then including the very first, IA.

If it doesn’t happen for a candidate by Super Tuesday, then it doesn’t happen for a candidate at all.

Atlantian on February 8, 2016 at 2:31 PM

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 2:29 PM

Well I guess they like medicaid expanding state budget busting policies then.

Zomcon JEM on February 8, 2016 at 2:31 PM

Who’s up for some dubious internal polling showing Kasich passing Rubio for second in New Hampshire?

Well, Kasich, for one…

orangemtl on February 8, 2016 at 2:31 PM

Of course I am still trying to decide if Bishop really likes Kasich or he is playing all of us.

Zomcon JEM on February 8, 2016 at 2:27 PM

Of course he does why on earth would you think anything different?

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 2:36 PM

NH GOP polls in 2008 and 2012 were dead on the money…

mjbrooks3 on February 8, 2016 at 2:36 PM

Kasich brought in NINA TURNER to work on policing policies in Ohio and praised her for doing a great job!!!! REALLY????? NINA TURNER????

Google her name and see what that gets you…..

Realdemocrat1 on February 8, 2016 at 2:37 PM

Trump- 28%
Rubio- 18%
Cruz- 16%
Kasich- 12%
Bush- 8%
Carson-6%
Christy- 6%
Fiorina- 4%
Other- 2%

Deadeye on February 8, 2016 at 2:37 PM

No one was expecting 43,000 people to vote for Rubio in the Iowa caucus, 3000 more than Huckabee won with in 2008, and nearly enough to knock Trump out of second.

I still think the fix is in, but evidently Jeb?/Christie/Kasich is not going away quietly.

Rush was pretty much defending Rubio this morning, which is telling.

Joseph K on February 8, 2016 at 1:31 PM

I watched the Iowa Caucus live on C-span for 6 of the precincts of Boone County. From start to finish, the cameras were on each step.
The votes were counted by hand and the totals were posted on large poster boards and put up for viewing.

Where Microsoft came in and who authorized them, I have no idea. Still don’t know which Counties they counted. We do know they are Rubio’s largest donor.

I can’t even trust Microsoft to get the Windows Updates right:-)

Don’t know what is wrong with Rush!!

bluefox on February 8, 2016 at 2:38 PM

The reason Rush agrees with Rubio on who Obama is, is because that is what Rush has said forever. We like having our core beliefs affirmed. I also tend to agree with that – he got ObamaCare passed, he is wiping out coal, he has the EPA regulating everything, the war on women, he is re-instituting racial politics, should I go on?

Yes because the issue is whether or not Obama is intentionally doing these things or not, not that Rubio fell back on these overly rehearsed talking points (which had nothing to do with any question being asked anyway) and looked like a robot whose wires got crossed.

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 2:38 PM

Can you name any previous Republican nominee who didn’t win a state until March? Just one?

Santorum didn’t suspend his campaign in 2012 until the first week in April. But, Santorum had won six-states by then including the very first, IA.

If it doesn’t happen for a candidate by Super Tuesday, then it doesn’t happen for a candidate at all.

Atlantian on February 8, 2016 at 2:31 PM

Don’t waste your breath, anyone who thinks Rubio isn’t a complete Amnesty shill and the Arch-enemy of conservatives isn’t right in the head…

…and sadly that includes Rush right now, he’s blinded by his friendship with Marco. He invested a lot in his hometeam so to speak.

Rogue on February 8, 2016 at 2:39 PM

Rush schilling for Rubot is funny…….Nut he sure is talking him up and defending him….

Realdemocrat1 on February 8, 2016 at 2:40 PM

Kasich is boring as heck, but still better than HIllary, and not mean.

Not mean is becoming more important everyday.

Really? You actually meant that?
Of course, quotes from someone with a moniker like ‘petunia’ should be evaluated accordingly. We’re not voting for president of the My Little Pony Fanclub.

I want someone who’s honest and effective; preferably, someone who’s about as nasty as…well, as Donald Trump. Cruz will do, and is perhaps even better. Rubio seems too readily rattled by…meanies.
Those who favor a ‘reasonable’ alternative like Kasich, or the doughy, invertebrate Jeb Bush say more about themselves than they do about the candidates. Probably the same people who sulk in their office cubicle if someone inadvertently didn’t say ‘hello’ in the elevator.
Toughen up, delicate little snowflakes:the world is a mean place. We’re full up on >7 years of a ‘reasonable’ and ‘scholarly’, cardboard cutout imitation of a leader. Time for an SOB.

orangemtl on February 8, 2016 at 2:40 PM

Starting to hear on CNN that Obama voters are jumping to Donald…..New Hampshire is now becoming a YUUUUUUUGGGE joke…..

Realdemocrat1 on February 8, 2016 at 2:42 PM

Donald Trump LOST in Iowa….

Realdemocrat1 on February 8, 2016 at 2:46 PM

Rubio’s states aren’t until March, he just has to stay in the running until then. If it’s April and he isn’t ahead… maybe.

Remember most states are proportioned, they aren’t winner take all.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 2:23 PM

I hope you aren’t counting on Florida.

katy the mean old lady on February 8, 2016 at 2:48 PM

For a self-anointed inside-outsider, Kasich has the DC double-talk down cold. He can sound like good ol’ Uncle John and lie to your face with a smile on his, all the while practicing Chop-Chop.

He’ll stay in ’til the piggy-bank is empty to ensure future book sales and maybe another network gig, a la Huckashyster.

hillbillyjim on February 8, 2016 at 2:50 PM

Redstone, I get your point. But while Rubio got stuck on tp #4, it was still an accurate description of Obama, and certainly more accurate than Obama is an idiot.

And if our defining decision on who to elect in the GOP primaries is going to be defined by immigration, there is only one candidate we have a prayer – and I am saying a prayer only – to do things we would want. Certainly not Rubio, and sorry not Trump either – though in fairness to him his proposal that he is pushing will probably have the same effect as Cruz’s plan. I just don’t believe he means to do any of it. Of course the rest of the field of establishment prospects are completely off the reservation.

Zomcon JEM on February 8, 2016 at 2:51 PM

bluefox on February 8, 2016 at 1:25 PM

Rush must be relapsing, you would need to be on some pretty strong stuff to think that Rubio had a good debate performance.

I’m sure he doesn’t even really believe what he’s saying.

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 1:33 PM

Maybe Rush changed meds:-) Rubio was running against Obama in that debate & reminded me of Obama when running was always attacking Bush.

Christie was right when he said Rubio has never been accountable for anything. A complete unqualified novice. We already have one of those.
Rubio’s only hope is if the RNC elects Jebbie and he picks Rubio as his VP at the planned brokered Convention.

And that is going to happen if no Candidate gets the majority vote of 8 States.

bluefox on February 8, 2016 at 2:52 PM

Marco Rubio is “our Republican,” says Chuck Schumer — and with good reason

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/05/marco-rubio-our-republican-says-chuck-schumer-and-with-good-reason.php

anotherJoe on February 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM

Instead, they want Trumpers to vote Cruz or “whomever”, despite Trump’s double digit lead.

Joseph K on February 8, 2016 at 1:35 PM

Never going to happen. Even if I wasn’t a Trump supporter, I certainly wouldn’t vote for Cruz!!

bluefox on February 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM

“beta male
An unremarkable, careful man who avoids risk and confrontation. Beta males lack the physical presence, charisma and confidence of the Alpha male.”

Hey! Leave Ted Cruz out of this!

mooseygoosey on February 8, 2016 at 3:02 PM

Zomcon JEM on February 8, 2016 at 2:51 PM

I am obsessed with immigration and don’t trust Cruz at all on the subject.

However an argument can be made that he is strong.

However, I don’t see him beating Rubio head to head, since Rubio will have all of the money, and Cruz won’t be able to hide behind Trump.

If it ends up being Cruz vs. Trump, fine, but I want to see everyone else eliminated first.

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 3:03 PM

Hillary/Bernie/MSM would eat and spit out Rubio in any kind of debate or interview. The repubs would blow it yet again if he is our candidate. Put a lid on it – we’ll be finished.

Alibali on February 8, 2016 at 3:07 PM

Throw in 2012 and New Hampshire has picked the eventual republican nominee 4 out 5 times.

xblade on February 8, 2016 at 3:10 PM

Rush has been fluffing Rubes for over an hour now since last week.

Valiant

And honestly, even longer than that. He covered for him as long as he could during Rubio’s Gang of 8 treachery.

xblade on February 8, 2016 at 3:18 PM

Second Look At Gilmore!

Isn’t he the only one that Faux and the rest of the establishment pimps haven’t promoted as their current savior from the Trump /Cruz threat?

LegendHasIt on February 8, 2016 at 3:32 PM

Anyone that likes Common Core, Medicaid Expansion, additional taxes and illegals will love Kasich.

He brags about reducing the Ohio State Income Tax but neglects to tell that he added 16-17 new categories subject to the 7% State Sales Tax.

That results in more taxes for Seniors on Social Security, Unemployed persons no longer eligible for Unemployment Benefits and those that do receive Unemployment Benefits.

In addition, he reduced the utility allowances the State uses to compute the Food Stamp amounts so everyone not working, receive less now. Less Food Stamp help and additional taxes. Some help.

Kasich is so concerned about the Illegals in our Country, but not very concerned about the American Citizens in his own State. His Medicaid Expansion added 300,000 more people to the rolls. I’m sure they are now eligible for Food Stamps and everything else that goes with Medicaid.

Those wanting to vote for Kasich should do their research and see what he’s done to the State besides adding a few jobs.

bluefox on February 8, 2016 at 3:59 PM

Kasich believes that Medicaid actually improves patient health status. That should tell you something.

butch on February 8, 2016 at 2:10 PM

The truth of the matter is that Kasich wanted the $$$ that Obama was giving the States for expanding Medicaid. Same as Obama giving the States $$$ for enacting Common Core.

Follow the money.

bluefox on February 8, 2016 at 4:07 PM

Of course I am still trying to decide if Bishop really likes Kasich or he is playing all of us.

Zomcon JEM on February 8, 2016 at 2:27 PM

If you have to ask if Bishop is playing you, you’ve already been played.

bofh on February 8, 2016 at 4:10 PM

Hang on tight to your salt shakers and hide the bacon, Bloomberg himself said he might run according to Cavuto.

MaggiePoo on February 8, 2016 at 4:24 PM

Marcosoft Debate 3.0 is not responding.
Would you like to wait or end the program?

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 12:08 PM

Genius, Redstone.

“Marcosoft”, just delicious completely LOL.

Who is John Galt on February 8, 2016 at 4:42 PM

bofh on February 8, 2016 at 4:10 PM

Probably correct on that one.

Zomcon JEM on February 8, 2016 at 4:48 PM

I am getting pretty sick of mean. I guess in a race between mean and not mean I’d have to go for Kasich.

Nothing illustrates how far Conservatism has fallen like Kasich. He was in the Reagan revolution and he is a pariah!

That’s why I think this whole “conservative” thing is no Conservative at all, it’s just one group of Evangelicals who think they are riding in on a white horse and saving the country. While really they are destroying the country.

This is politics, not religion.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 2:20 PM

This is the girl who called those wanted to deport illegal aliens and their anchor babies neo nazies and racists.

NWConservative on February 8, 2016 at 4:54 PM

The only people I can ever find being excited about John Kasich seem to be Democrats.

But obviously there’s a few Republicans who seem to like him, too. For some reason.

The_Jacobite on February 8, 2016 at 4:56 PM

I hope not – Kasich is a big government, expand central control guy. Please….. drop out.

MN J on February 8, 2016 at 6:14 PM

I knocked on over 200 doors this weekend in New Hampshire and I can tell you there’s not a chance in hell that Kasich will cone in second

Mercyneal on February 8, 2016 at 9:27 PM

I knocked on over 200 doors this weekend in New Hampshire and I can tell you there’s not a chance in hell that Kasich will cone in second

Mercyneal on February 8, 2016 at 9:27 PM

What do you think the breakdown tomorrow will be?

NWConservative on February 8, 2016 at 9:51 PM

What do you think the breakdown tomorrow will be?

NWConservative on February 8, 2016 at 9:51 PM

Hillary’s nervous one will be the most enjoyable.

hillbillyjim on February 8, 2016 at 10:05 PM

Can you name any previous Republican nominee who didn’t win a state until March? Just one?

Santorum didn’t suspend his campaign in 2012 until the first week in April. But, Santorum had won six-states by then including the very first, IA.

If it doesn’t happen for a candidate by Super Tuesday, then it doesn’t happen for a candidate at all.

Atlantian on February 8, 2016 at 2:31 PM

Has Donald Trump ever disrupted an election like this before.

All rules are off.

Plus a lot more states are proportioned than ever before.

I saw a Bushie saying he was in until March I think even if he didn’t win any state… so

I am not an expert. I have just been listening and reading all day. And that’s what they said for him so…

Okay… Kasich can hardly contain himself. He is practically jumping up and down he is so excited for the vote. So… I think that means he will do very well.

Also, someone said Kasich has no ground game and will likely spend most of his time in Michigan… because he polls well there.

No one predicts Trump won’t win it. But many say it will be a smaller margin than the polls say.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 10:07 PM

I knocked on over 200 doors this weekend in New Hampshire and I can tell you there’s not a chance in hell that Kasich will cone in second

Mercyneal on February 8, 2016 at 9:27 PM

So on the ground in New Hampshire what’s the word?

Who is your candidate?

Predictions?

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 10:11 PM

This is the girl who called those wanted to deport illegal aliens and their anchor babies neo nazies and racists.

NWConservative on February 8, 2016 at 4:54 PM

WEll… you over state that, I said calling Rubio an anchor baby was racist, and that the Neo Nazis have endorsed Trump… you drew the conclusions.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 10:12 PM

This is the girl who called those wanted to deport illegal aliens and their anchor babies neo nazies and racists.

NWConservative on February 8, 2016 at 4:54 PM

But thank you for calling me a girl… I’m a grandmother of 10, so it’s been a longtime since someone called me a girl.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 10:13 PM

And honestly, even longer than that. He covered for him as long as he could during Rubio’s Gang of 8 treachery.

xblade on February 8, 2016 at 3:18 PM

Oh that’s good, because that is way overblown.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM

This is what Marco Rubio is for and has always been for, since he first entered politics in Florida:

http://www.eagleforum.org/publications/psr/june13.html

memyselfni on February 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM

Time for an SOB.

orangemtl on February 8, 2016 at 2:40 PM

WE got one now.

But good luck with that… not going to happen. An SOB will not get elected.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 10:16 PM

And honestly, even longer than that. He covered for him as long as he could during Rubio’s Gang of 8 treachery.

xblade on February 8, 2016 at 3:18 PM

Oh that’s good, because that is way overblown.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 10:15 PM

Only if sovereign borders are inconsequential. If it had passed, the Gang of Eight Crap Sandwich would have in the long run only encouraged more border-breaching, visa overstays, anchor-baby tourism and so forth.

AND,

Only if lying to your constituents, or breaking one of your centerpiece campaign promises, is of no import.

Bah.

hillbillyjim on February 8, 2016 at 10:26 PM

Hillary’s nervous one will be the most enjoyable.

hillbillyjim on February 8, 2016 at 10:05 PM

LOL.

NWConservative on February 8, 2016 at 10:51 PM

This is the girl who called those wanted to deport illegal aliens and their anchor babies neo nazies and racists.

NWConservative on February 8, 2016 at 4:54 PM

WEll… you over state that, I said calling Rubio an anchor baby was racist, and that the Neo Nazis have endorsed Trump… you drew the conclusions.

petunia on February 8, 2016 at 10:12 PM

That’s a lie.

So you have your own version where Trump is God’s chosen candidate? And his purpose is purify the race?

I had heard the neo-Nazi’s had endorsed Trump. Not real trilled they come to Hot Air.

petunia on February 6, 2016 at 6:39 PM

NWConservative on February 8, 2016 at 10:54 PM

…Jeb?

JugEarsButtHurt on February 8, 2016 at 10:58 PM

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