Apparently Marco Rubio’s stall is all Joe Scarborough’s fault

posted at 4:41 pm on February 8, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

Ever since Marco Rubio’s rather repetitive performance at Saturday night’s debate, much of the talk of This Town has been centered on the Marcomentum coming out of Iowa and whether the boom was about to turn into a bust. Rubio’s team has been battling back gamely from the beat down Chris Christie initiated, but the Florida senator seems to be getting some help from the media in the closing hours of the Battle of New Hampshire. Surely there is some other explanation for why he’s stagnating in the Granite State polls other than that debate showing, right?

The New York Times thinks they’ve latched onto at least part of the answer. It must be the bad treatment he’s received from MSNBC host Joe Scarborough. And why would Joe have it in for Rubio? Aw… he’s probably just jealous. Oh, and the fact that he doesn’t come on Morning Joe. (Seriously?) They begin with an email from a member of Joe’s staff badgering Rubio to come in for an interview. From there, the Times explanation wanders off into some truly bizarre territory.

The email, obtained by The New York Times, offered a raw glimpse into an unusual spat playing out on-screen, day after day, with “Morning Joe” needling Mr. Rubio, the only major presidential candidate who has refused to appear on the program.

In an election season marked by animosity, egos and insults, this feud transcends media, politics and state lines. It follows two men from the swamps of Florida politics to a presidential cycle in which Mr. Rubio, 44, has emerged as a leading candidate, and Mr. Scarborough, 52, as one of his fiercest critics.

On the surface, the fight seems to be a classic case of a celebrity host being snubbed and his feelings being hurt: Mr. Rubio has appeared on “Morning Joe” just once since becoming a senator.

While Mr. Rubio has boycotted the program, its hosts have derided him for everything from his fashion choices (“shagalicious”) to his lack of legislative accomplishments, producing the kind of memorable moments that have taken off on social media.

They also go so far as to imply that Scarborough is jealous of Rubio and secretly wants to be a Senator himself. What the heck is going on at the New York Times these days?

Seriously, have Ashley Parker and Jonathan Martin ever watched the show? The MoJo team goes after everyone remotely close to running for president (and any other high profile races) to come on the show. They also have a standing rule which states that they won’t let surrogates come on the show and peddle the candidate’s talking points until they do the show at least once themselves. If any proof is needed, Hillary Clinton somewhat famously refused to show up for the longest time and they didn’t allow her spokespeople on either. It’s just a rule they have.

And are we to seriously think that Rubio is getting special treatment? I’m scratching my head to think of anyone on either side of the race who hasn’t been criticized by their panel. (And for that matter, complimented when they do something well.) Believe me, I watch the show every day and I don’t agree with every opinion rolling off the set, but I’ve yet to see them playing favorites. One of Joe’s long running criticisms of Marco is that he’s a first term senator without much in the way of a record to prepare him for the presidency. Do you know who else Scarborough has said the exact same thing about? Barack Obama and Ted Cruz. And yet somehow Obama became President and Cruz won the Iowa caucuses. I guess Joe’s frightening magic must not be infallible, eh?

And finally, how embarrassed must the Times be to even suggest this?

Mr. Scarborough, who served four terms in the House, had long eyed a Senate seat. But it was Mr. Rubio, who ran and won in 2010, buoyed by a Tea Party wave. (At the time, Mr. Scarborough questioned the viability of Mr. Rubio’s candidacy, at one point warning that the “other shoe” was going to drop — though the promised scandal never emerged.)

This cycle, Mr. Scarborough encouraged speculation that he might wage a presidential bid. But again, it was Mr. Rubio who mounted a campaign for president. Mr. Scarborough said he never considered running for president, and pointed out that he lives in Connecticut — so he would not have been competing with Mr. Rubio for a Senate seat.

People have been trying to drag Scarborough back into politics kicking and screaming pretty much since he left office. If he’d wanted to be a Senator he’d have already run. He’s also been courted by multiple people to form an exploratory committee and run for President. The guy has kids to take care of and a rather lucrative job. I don’t get paid to read minds, but if he really wanted to go through all that garbage again I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be on the show every morning… he’d be out on the trail running.

Since it’s now apparently fair game to engage in idle speculation and innuendo, here’s some for you: the New York Times absolutely despises both Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. They clearly don’t want either of them to get the nomination, say nothing of the presidency. Perhaps they see Rubio as the most harmless alternative and want to prop up his chances. And if you can’t defend Rubio’s performance at the debate, the next best thing is to attack the messenger who’s criticizing him. I wonder if that could be behind this article?

Seriously, does anyone really believe that Joe Scarborough invented all this criticism of Rubio or dreamed up that dismal debate performance all by himself? The silly season is hitting its stride in full now.

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Seriously, does anyone really believe that Joe Scarborough invented all this criticism of Rubio or dreamed up that dismal debate performance all by himself? The silly season is hitting its stride in full now.

Was Scarborough fair?

Or are his critiques little more than sounds of silence?

Christie shut down Rubio just like he shut down that bridge over troubled water a few years ago.

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 4:48 PM

Even talking heads can be good for something.

Rix on February 8, 2016 at 4:48 PM

Christie shut down Rubio just like he shut down that bridge over troubled water a few years ago.

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 4:48 PM

Would you please stop repeating this Clinton-instigated bullshit? Christie is a fat, quasi-liberal big government lover who likely sunk Romney’s chances in 2012, and I trust him about as far as I can throw him – but the whole story was whipped up out of nothing by Clinton operatives in NJ at the time when Christie was considered the potential frontrunner.

Rix on February 8, 2016 at 4:51 PM

I read the article. It sounded more like the authors thought Joe Scarborough was miffed that Rubio has never agreed to come onto the show, and was “needling” him as a way of either getting even or incentivizing him to come on the show to end the needling. That I can believe.

The “jealousy” angle the authors were pushing just sounded like silly stuff. The Florida GOP courted Scarborough for years to run for a Senate seat. He didn’t want to do it. End of story.

I didn’t read the article as a way to explain stalling momentum.

Jill1066 on February 8, 2016 at 4:52 PM

Are you going on Scarboroughs Show?
Rubio, Cruz, Christie, and Trump;
Remember me to the one who lives there,
For once I was a true love of mine.

portlandon on February 8, 2016 at 4:55 PM

I watch Morning Joe a lot. Scarborough give off the ‘vibe’ he hates Rubio-and I think he does hate Rubio.

gerrym51 on February 8, 2016 at 4:56 PM

Rix on February 8, 2016 at 4:51 PM

I just wanted to fit “bridge over troubled water” in. I don’t know for sure if Christie actually shut it down or not, but I was certainly impressed by his prosecutorial display in the debate.

Redstone on February 8, 2016 at 4:58 PM

All the Kings horses
And all the Kings men…

Magicjava on February 8, 2016 at 4:58 PM

Has Joe lost his mojo? If he can’t get the ‘ho’ on, why would expect to get Rubio?

vnvet on February 8, 2016 at 5:02 PM

OT: I wanted to reply to this comment from an older thread. I wasn’t around to do it yesterday.

Some internationally agreed “rules of the road” that define acceptable behavior of satellites are probably needed, along with an outline that describes possible responses when a satellite’s behavior becomes unacceptable.

Magicjava on February 7, 2016 at 11:18 AM

We already have international treaties on the use of space.
However, as with most criminals, the NorKs have repeatedly proven they don’t abide by international rules, laws, or treaties that are common to civilized societies.

This is the same problem we have with the Dems on gun control – they don’t enforce the laws we already have, the criminals don’t obey the laws we already have, but the Dems think a bunch of new laws will magically solve all our problems.

dentarthurdent on February 7, 2016 at 4:24 PM

We don’t need North Korea’s approval, or even involvement, to decide what we and our allies consider to be fair and safe use of space.

We can set up our rules without their approval. We can shoot down their satellites without their approval.

Magicjava on February 8, 2016 at 5:02 PM

Scarborough gave a fair assessment of Rubio

Marco Rubio has no accomplishments of any significance

He is a fair stump speech, a toothy smile, in an empty suit

Same as what we got with Obama in 2008

BigSven on February 8, 2016 at 5:04 PM

What the heck is going on at the New York Times these days?

These days?

That paper has always been a rag. If the National Enquirer said half the things the New York Times does, they’d be sued out of existence.

Magicjava on February 8, 2016 at 5:07 PM

I am ready for more wars, interventions, amnesties, and being spied on. Marco brings me hope where others don’t, and I will not yet dispel this notion that he has stalled! We will have wars and amnesties!!!

Jeffrey on February 8, 2016 at 5:07 PM

the New York Times absolutely despises both Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. They clearly don’t want either of them to get the nomination, say nothing of the presidency.

So true, Jazz. and it gives lie to every TDS bs claim that Trump is a lib, or that he is a favorite on the left.

The NYT wants a continuation of the left R/D Uniparty trough to slurp at.

Senator Philip Bluster on February 8, 2016 at 5:09 PM

I mean I will dispel this notion that he has stalled! And I will scream and sweat while doing so!

Jeffrey on February 8, 2016 at 5:13 PM

Scarborough would be a fool to give up his current lifestyle for a return to Washington DC. He’s got one of the best seats in show business. Staying in Washington is for arrogant lords consumed by the hunt for political power. We need more humble men like Joe who go in, do the work of their people as a public servant, and then get the hell out.

MidAtlantic Moderate on February 8, 2016 at 5:15 PM

Joe Scarborough BUILT rubios sh!tter for him???????

Indiana Jim on February 8, 2016 at 5:16 PM

It’s OK, I have full confidence that HotAir will help Rubio out with his fall.

TheMadHessian on February 8, 2016 at 5:17 PM

I watch Morning Joe a lot.
gerrym51 on February 8, 2016 at 4:56 PM

So you’re the one

The Notorious G.O.P on February 8, 2016 at 5:17 PM

And why would Joe have it in for Rubio? Aw… he’s probably just jealous.

Of course, he is jealous. His IPhone doesn’t have as many read only storage chips as Marco Parrot’s brain.

VorDaj on February 8, 2016 at 5:22 PM

I, along with 330,000,000 other Americans, don’t give a flying crap what Joe DB thinks about any subject matter.

David in ATL on February 8, 2016 at 5:40 PM

Joe only wishes he had a viewership big enough to effect an election.

Joe has always been snarky about Rubio and was a BIG Bush pusher in the beginning of the election cycle. He was probably hoping his ex wife could once again work for Jeb and bring those alimony payments down. However,seeing the writing on the wall, he’s pulled back. Not because he wouldn’t love to see Bush win, but as a pundit he doesn’t want to be wrong.

coca on February 8, 2016 at 6:24 PM

I used to watch Morning Joe years ago before my cable provider finally got real and added Fox News to the lineup. Back around 2000 they hadn’t gone quite so openly in the tank for the Dems and had some pretense of objectivity. The show was entertaining, but it was clear that Joe Scarborough had moved pretty far left since his days in Congress. He might have been the most right-ward person on the channel, but it was all relative…..

I suspect nowadays his ratings are mainly lefties who watch to get a sense of what the “hard right” is thinking. It is still amusing when something ghastly about Hillary comes up and not even Mika can fake approval.

Jill1066 on February 8, 2016 at 6:31 PM

Marco’s fall?

He was never high, except in petunia and terryann’s underwear.

Schadenfreude on February 8, 2016 at 7:51 PM


Apparently Marco Rubio’s stall is all Joe Scarborough’s fault

… because MSNBC is just that damn powerful.

Haw!

LOLOLOLOL.

The Gray Lady fades to black.

hillbillyjim on February 8, 2016 at 9:27 PM