Video: Howard Dean admits labor unions are “Super PACs that Democrats like”

posted at 12:31 pm on February 7, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

Does this qualify as a “gaffe” when defined in classic Washington terms?

Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean sat down with Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC to talk about the New Hampshire primary and seems to have lost control of his better partisan senses for a moment. Mitchell was quizzing him about all the money that Hillary Clinton has taken from special interest groups though her Super PACs and her paid speaking engagements, relating these bits of history to recent attacks coming from Bernie Sanders’ campaign. Dean is one of Clinton’s most vocal (and frequently incomprehensible) supporters and he didn’t take kindly to the suggestion. (From David Rutz at the Washington Free Beacon)

Hillary Clinton supporter Howard Dean called labor unions “super PACs that Democrats like” during an interview Friday where he angrily defended Clinton from he called a “double standard” about big money in politics.

The question of Wall Street’s hold over Clinton, given the high-cost speeches she has given to the financial industry, has been a divisive issue in the campaign, and MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell brought it up during their interview in New Hampshire.

“Was it a mistake politically to show herself to be so closely tied financially to the Wall Street interests?” Mitchell asked.

Rather than defending Clinton against the Sanders broadsides, Dean makes the classic mistake of failing to say Clinton did nothing wrong, but rather saying that Sanders was just as bad. His example, as you’ll see below, confirms everything conservatives have known about labor unions for as long as I can remember.

Let’s go to the video. The specific comments in question come at around the 1:30 mark if you want to skip ahead.

“Why does Hillary Clinton have to put up with a double standard?” Dean said. “I don’t hear anybody asking Bernie Sanders for his transcripts for some speech he made with a labor union. Frankly, for Bernie to say he doesn’t have a super PAC, labor unions are super PACs. Now, they’re super PACs that Democrats like, so we don’t go after labor unions, but this is a double standard.”

You know, Howard, I don’t think you understand what “double standard” really means. That implies that one person is being judged more unfairly than the other. In reality, we’re just agreeing with you and saying that both of them are corrupt and beholden to well funded special interests. Oh, and for the record, Clinton has gotten plenty of endorsements from the labor unions herself. The only reason the subject is notable this year is that Bernie Sanders got some of them also.

Keep this one in your pocket for the general election no matter who winds up getting the Democrat nomination. The labor unions are nothing but massive piggy banks for the Democrat Party and have been for as long as most of us can remember. I’ve never heard of them being referred to as Super PACs before, but Howard Dean has really hit the nail on the head here. Voters should be reminded of this at every opportunity.

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Now that its o0n record, maybe the Republicans will pass legislation requiring Unions to follow the same laws as super PAC’s… Na, who am I kidding, Republicans grow a spine? Never happen.

oscarwilde on February 7, 2016 at 12:34 PM

Thanks, Howard.

rbj on February 7, 2016 at 12:34 PM

That’s right. If you want “big money” out of politics the first to go should be labor and teacher unions.

Just think, they’ll be able to lower dues because they won’t be spending millions of member’s dollars on politics.

Cue liberals whining about the Koch Brothers.

darwin on February 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM

Get smart unions and quit the tomfoolery.

The illegals hurt your membership.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 12:35 PM

It’s hilarious watching the lefty lapdogs foam at the mouth over Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission when, in fact: Labor unions benefit more from Citizens United than big conservative donors

ShainS on February 7, 2016 at 12:36 PM

I always look forward to interviews with Dean and Biden.

butch on February 7, 2016 at 12:37 PM

Does this qualify as a “gaffe” when defined in classic Washington terms?

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JugEarsButtHurt on February 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM

And let’s have a video up of the Rubot Debate Model malfunctioning…

Good 30 second video of that here: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/268531-glitch-twitter-bot-mocks-rubios-repetition

anotherJoe on February 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM

Dean to be found dead of 34 self inflicted gunshot wounds to the back.

Bishop on February 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM

Does this qualify as a “gaffe” when defined in classic Washington terms?

…wait no!….I’ll have to check…with the Rube!

JugEarsButtHurt on February 7, 2016 at 12:40 PM

lol! I’d love to see Biden run for the presidency. He could hire Dean for campaign spokesman.

thatsafactjack on February 7, 2016 at 12:40 PM

It’s hilarious watching the lefty lapdogs foam at the mouth over Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission when, in fact: Labor unions benefit more from Citizens United than big conservative donors

ShainS on February 7, 2016 at 12:36 PM

The left hates that both parties can now get mega bucks. before it was only democrats.

darwin on February 7, 2016 at 12:41 PM

Always good to hear from Dr. Yeargh.

22044 on February 7, 2016 at 12:47 PM

Sorry to go off topic……No NFL – Superbowl thread for today???

jaywemm on February 7, 2016 at 12:47 PM

The TPP is a disaster for legal American workers, blue and white color.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 12:48 PM

Good Morning J. Did you see the debate? It had a classy walk out, not from the ABC perspective, and then it was quite telling thereafter.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 12:50 PM

The left hates that both parties can now get mega bucks. before it was only democrats.

darwin on February 7, 2016 at 12:41 PM

Excellent summation.

ShainS on February 7, 2016 at 12:50 PM

Sorry to go off topic……No NFL – Superbowl thread for today???

jaywemm on February 7, 2016 at 12:47 PM

…it’s hours from now!…..as Flange would say………..GO Lions!

JugEarsButtHurt on February 7, 2016 at 12:51 PM

Sorry to go off topic……No NFL – Superbowl thread for today???

jaywemm on February 7, 2016 at 12:47 PM

I’m surprised the Dems didn’t schedule a debate during the Super Bowl.

ShainS on February 7, 2016 at 12:52 PM

Dean will be in total shock when many big union bosses go with Trump, and many of the union members do so, no matter what their capos decide.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 12:54 PM

No duh.

CWforFreedom on February 7, 2016 at 12:54 PM

Sorry to go off topic……No NFL – Superbowl thread for today???

jaywemm on February 7, 2016 at 12:47 PM

…got $25 ?…TT Taylor!…maybe that will be his only appearance today…I don’t think he can do a post covering for the Rube today…could he?

JugEarsButtHurt on February 7, 2016 at 12:56 PM

You know why you should never drink a lot of beer while playing poker, because you might go all-in with three of a kind and completely miss that your opponent is working a flush.

#Mywalletislightertoday

Bishop on February 7, 2016 at 12:58 PM

OT – obama’s friends, the Iranians, show him a yuuuuge finger.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 12:59 PM

OT – obama’s friends employers, the Iranians, show him a yuuuuge finger.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 12:59 PM

Had to fix it for you, bro.

Rix on February 7, 2016 at 1:05 PM

Sorry to go off topic……No NFL – Superbowl thread for today???

jaywemm on February 7, 2016 at 12:47 PM

I can offer this.

butch on February 7, 2016 at 1:06 PM

Huge gaffe.

cimbri on February 7, 2016 at 1:07 PM

Meh, I don’t about Howard Dean, I just realized that Andrea Mitchell looks older then her 90 year old husband.

lowandslow on February 7, 2016 at 1:08 PM

It’s alright Rix. So true.

Hillary’s are the Qataris.

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 1:12 PM

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 12:50 PM

Good afternoon, Paladin.

I only caught bits and pieces of the debate.

However, I reviewed it, including the introduction sequence, at the Refuge.

thatsafactjack on February 7, 2016 at 1:13 PM

“Well sure, my one colleague is a bank robber, but this other colleague of mine is a wife beater, so they sorta cancel each other out.”
–Liberal Democrat Political Logic; Howard Dean version

What a talentless d**chebag.

orangemtl on February 7, 2016 at 1:20 PM

Sorry to go off topic……No NFL – Superbowl thread for today???

Sorry for the delay. The game doesn’t start until 6:30 eastern so I’m running the SB thread at 5.

Jazz Shaw on February 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM

thatsafactjack on February 7, 2016 at 1:13 PM

The big surprise next week might be Sen. Sessions :)

Around Wednesday

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 1:25 PM

You know why you should never drink a lot of beer while playing poker, because you might go all-in with three of a kind and completely miss that your opponent is working a flush.

#Mywalletislightertoday

Bishop on February 7, 2016 at 12:58 PM

What’s that mean, five red cards? Sounds like yet another example of White Privilege.

/libfree

ShainS on February 7, 2016 at 1:26 PM

Sorry to go off topic……No NFL – Superbowl thread for today???

Sorry for the delay. The game doesn’t start until 6:30 eastern so I’m running the SB thread at 5.

Jazz Shaw on February 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM

Ok thank you…Er does this mean i have alter my usual Sunday NFL drinking routine….oops too late for that.

jaywemm on February 7, 2016 at 1:31 PM

Howard Dean, another New York radical who moved to Vermont. I feel sorry for the old Vermonters. They’ve been colonized by the left wing.

grumpyank on February 7, 2016 at 1:34 PM

Video: Howard Dean admits labor unions are “Super PACs that Democrats like”

Well…you learn something new every day! /s

The irony is that the union members have been financing their own future unemployed/under-employed status, as well as higher taxes for many decades now.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 7, 2016 at 1:38 PM

Wow both sides are messing up by the pound here.If I didn’t live in this country I’d buy some popcorn and watch the show of incompetence. Unfortunately I do and will have to suffer through one of these morons after Jan 20. I wish we could flush the lot and start over.

Wood Dragon on February 7, 2016 at 1:44 PM

OT

J. you’ll love this.

The true traitorous Rubio

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM

I wish we could flush the lot and start over.

Wood Dragon on February 7, 2016 at 1:44 PM

I could guarantee you the same results.

These people only stay in power because of the idiots that vote them in time and again. Now, if you have a plan to get rid of these morons who vote for them, I’m all ears.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 7, 2016 at 1:55 PM

When was the last fooling again?

Judge_Dredd on February 7, 2016 at 1:56 PM

Now, if you have a plan to get rid of these morons who vote for them, I’m all ears.
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Dr. ZhivBlago on February 7, 2016 at 1:55 PM

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We’re not allowed to endorse homicide, never mind mega-MASS homicide.

listens2glenn on February 7, 2016 at 2:03 PM

Forget that other event today. What about a Puppy Bowl thread?

Tinker on February 7, 2016 at 2:43 PM

This guy is a two-faced a-hole! He needs to pick one person and stick with them. He isn’t for Shillary, he’s for Bernie. His DFA website is all the rage for Bernie.

From an email from DFA:

WOW. Last night’s Iowa caucus was an absolute game-changer, rocking the Democratic Party presidential primary and sending a deep shock wave through the media and the establishment.

To the amazement of many, Bernie Sanders’s insurgent progressive candidacy and powerful economic message drove a near-record turnout and kept the Iowa caucus too close to call right up until just a few short hours ago.
Now, with Iowa over, the two candidates are virtually tied headed into the next all-important vote: The New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, February 9.

Our extremely close finish in Iowa was a huge upset for the front-runner and a huge boost of momentum for Bernie’s political revolution. Together, we proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is a huge constituency in America ready to push for real progressive change — and that we can be a force of nature at the polls.

A big win for Bernie in New Hampshire is exactly the burst of momentum we need to spark victories across the country in the many primaries and caucuses to come. Can you pitch in $3 or more right now so that Bernie Sanders and DFA can double down on New Hampshire?

After last night’s closer-than-expected finish, we know the establishment is going to throw everything they have at us, trying to slow our momentum before the next vote. We need to be ready fight back hard if we are going to win and win big in the Granite State.

And our journey won’t end in New Hampshire. Bernie’s campaign is already hard at work building infrastructure well beyond New Hampshire — in Nevada and South Carolina, and in 12 states that will have their say on Super Tuesday, March 1.

Last night in Iowa, we scored an incredibly important victory for working families and sent a strong message to the corporate special interests who dominate our politics. We proved that we have the power to shock the establishment and make history.

Now, it is up to us to prove that this isn’t just a flash in the pan — that our political revolution isn’t limited to one caucus or one state or one election. Let’s show the establishment that we’re here to stay: Chip in $3 or more right now to help Bernie Sanders and DFA go all-out to win in New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina and beyond.

Thanks for being a part of this huge victory for Bernie and our people-powered movement.

– Eden

Eden James, Political Director
Democracy for America

So his website is in the tank for the Berns but he is protecting Shillary? Screw him.

Patriot Vet on February 7, 2016 at 3:16 PM

Schadenfreude on February 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM

Thank you, Paladin.

I took a moment to circulate the link.

thatsafactjack on February 7, 2016 at 3:26 PM

We’re not allowed to endorse homicide, never mind mega-MASS homicide.

listens2glenn on February 7, 2016 at 2:03 PM

A citizenship test of some sort would be a good start.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 7, 2016 at 3:44 PM

Conservative superpac = Baaaad, mmmkay?

Liberal superpac = Good!

Oxymoron on February 7, 2016 at 4:14 PM

Oxymoron on February 7, 2016 at 4:14 PM

It’s like the cable channel BET. If I started the “Redneck Channel” and used a confederate flag as it’s logo, I’d be blasted into space. “RACIST!”

Who is John Galt on February 7, 2016 at 4:27 PM

It’s a big deal because a democrat admitted it. Is that the standard?

Who didn’t know that?

Lonetown on February 7, 2016 at 4:29 PM

It’s a big deal because a democrat admitted it. Is that the standard?

Who didn’t know that?

Lonetown on February 7, 2016 at 4:29 PM

Indeed.

The irony is that the union members have been financing their own future unemployed/under-employed status, as well as higher taxes for many decades now.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 7, 2016 at 1:38 PM

Unions fall under the same indictment as politicians in general: the leadership is in it for themselves, not their constituents.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/02/03/politics-corruption-sleaze-dishonest-graft-transit-self-interest-column/79744874/

AesopFan on February 7, 2016 at 10:04 PM

I wish we could flush the lot and start over.

Wood Dragon on February 7, 2016 at 1:44 PM

I could guarantee you the same results.

These people only stay in power because of the idiots that vote them in time and again. Now, if you have a plan to get rid of these morons who vote for them, I’m all ears.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 7, 2016 at 1:55 PM

Ignorance, willful partisan blindness, fraud from the politicians and media, and self-interest (got my free phone!) — all of those operate more or less in each elector.

AesopFan on February 7, 2016 at 10:06 PM

Labor Unions are pretty much a money laundering scheme run by Democrats for Democrats.

The Democrats ‘negotiate’ the contracts, the Unions extract the money from wherever/whoever and then send it to the Democrats. Some of whom they negotiated with.

It could all end tomorrow but the GOPe enjoys favorite pal status with the ruling power; The Democrats. Don’t want to make them mad.

jake1246 on February 7, 2016 at 10:21 PM