Video: Obama condemns anti-Muslim rhetoric at Baltimore mosque

posted at 7:41 pm on February 3, 2016 by Allahpundit

I’m glad for him, really. Lecturing Americans about “who we are” has always seemed to be the part of the job that he enjoys most, even though it’s really not part of the job. He’s got nothing better to do in year eight either, if we’re being honest. His time is probably best spent at this point delivering aspirational weekly talks on who we are, and aren’t, as a nation.

On the one hand, this is a prosaic reminder that you shouldn’t blame a group for the worst actions of its most degenerate members. On the other hand, political actors do that all the time, including and especially members of the left after that lunatic shot Gabby Giffords in Tucson five years ago and somehow the “climate” among conservatives took the rap. The debate about taking the Confederate battle flag down from the statehouse grounds in South Carolina was premised upon the idea that retrograde cultural customs tolerated by nonviolent people can embolden dangerous cranks in their midst. To find a similar argument being made in non-conservative media about jihadis and Muslims, you can watch Bill Maher’s show or … actually, that’s pretty much it. None of that undermines Obama’s point condemning harassment, but the fact that he chose to stage this at a mosque which itself isn’t free of radical associations ironically underscores why so many people worry about Islam, as though there’s nowhere you can go among the ummah and be certain that you’re exclusively among “moderates.” What he says about the “American family” has the same problem: It’s well-meaning, and he’s right that America’s Muslims are more a part of “the family” than Europe’s Muslims are, but there’s a clanging disjunction between the sentiment here and the news over the past few months of Europe’s wrenching problems trying to assimilate Middle Eastern refugees, starting in Cologne. It feels like another case (a la Bush before him) of addressing serious cultural conflicts essentially by papering them over. What’s going to happen when France is 20 percent Muslim? “Don’t harass people.” How much should we worry about homegrown jihadis attacking America again after San Bernardino? “We’re all one family.” Are critics like Maher right that Islam is fundamentally illiberal and therefore destined to forever conflict with western values? “Religious freedom is a cherished American value.” Okay, thanks for the chat.

I wonder how many Americans feel they’re part of a national “family” anymore.

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This is not who we are I am.

antipc on February 4, 2016 at 12:12 PM

YiZhangZhe on February 3, 2016 at 11:40 PM

Why don’t we just recognize it as a totalitarian political system. Which is what it is. Since I do not believe any devout muslim can take the oath of citizenship and mean it, it cannot be construed as a religion under the constitutions meaning of religion.

Zomcon JEM on February 4, 2016 at 9:17 AM

As far as I can tell the Muslims form many disparate groups, many of which seem to hate other Muslim groups as much as they hate anybody else and therefore the term “system” is too strong for what actually exists in the West. Such an easily refutable claim won’t be adopted by politicians and journalists so they will continue describing it as a “religion” and will keep defending it.

My short-term hope/objective is weaken the association of the word “Islam” with the term “religion”, so that then people can have sensible conversation about what Islam is and is not, and from those conversations the understanding of Islam as a vile, deceitful, oppressive political ideology will be easier for people to accept.

Moreover although Islam is an political ideology, it is expressed in a cultish form, and a “cult” is how many people experience Muslims. Certainly many of the Muslims I’ve encountered (and I’ve lived amongst them for two decades) spoke like they’d been indoctrinated, and dressed to demonstrate their commitment to the cause. In one sense many Muslims are very pretentious — always wanting to demonstrate how “special” they are.

In any case I think people can easily associate “Muslim” and “Cultist”.

Bottom line though is do whatever works. I’m going to keep repeating the “personality cult” label and the “ideology of conquest and domination” description. If you find some other term can help people understand the malignancy of Islam so that they start opposing it, then use that term.

YiZhangZhe on February 4, 2016 at 12:57 PM

We do not have a singular identity in the U.S. anymore. Not sure if one ever existed but surely we are far, far from any common set of values and identity – farther than we have ever been – and mostly thanks to Obama, Hillary and the Progressive agenda.

I cannot stand to watch or listen to a President who on one hand praises illegal immigrants and Muslims (some of whom may wish us ill-will or death) yet on the other hand chides Christians and U.S. citizens (GOP and Tea Party members) for holding onto our own faith, ideals and sense of patriotism.

Please, please, please let the next President be a Republican.

HoosierStateofMind on February 4, 2016 at 1:09 PM

Video: Obama condemns anti-Muslim jihadi rhetoric at Baltimore mosque


s1im on February 4, 2016 at 1:41 PM

Obama’s idea of “family” and “we” works once you realize he doesn’t include white people in that. Or conservatives of any color.

Alana on February 4, 2016 at 4:02 PM

Or Chrisrians.

Alana on February 4, 2016 at 4:05 PM

Or Jews.

Alana on February 4, 2016 at 4:19 PM

Hey, Obozo:

How about condemning the shootings, bombings, and terrorism perpetrated by your precious “peaceful Muslims”??

Give us a break you Ameriphobic A$$!!!

landlines on February 4, 2016 at 10:05 PM

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