Sanders: We may look into a recount

posted at 8:41 am on February 2, 2016 by Ed Morrissey

While Ted Cruz won a five-point victory in what really turned into a three-way race in the GOP’s Iowa Caucus, the Democratic Party’s side of the caucus turned into a real nailbiter. Hillary Clinton clung to a lead of less than a percentage point by the end of the night, with both she and Bernie Sanders claiming victory at the end. At the moment, CNN’s election tracker still shows a 50/50 tie, although Hillary has 24 delegates assigned to Bernie’s 21, thanks to the arcane and opaque process by which Democrats operate their caucuses.

Speaking of which, Bernie may want a recount. NBC’s Kasie Hunt caught up with the challenger after he deplaned in New Hampshire, and while he’s looking forward, he might still want one careful look back too:

BERNIE SANDERS — is capable of running and winning any state of this country.  We look forward to doing well here in New Hampshire.  And after that, we’re off to Nevada and then South Carolina, where I think we’re going to surprise a whole lot of people, just as we did in Iowa.

KASIE HUNT:  Do you anticipate contesting this vote count at all?

SANDERS:  Honestly, we just got off the plane and I — we don’t know enough to say anything about it.

How does one recount a caucus? Even on the Republican side that would be difficult, as was discovered in 2012 in the razor-thin outcome between Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney. On the Democratic side, it would be all but impossible, thanks to the multiple-round system employed. In each precinct, voting takes place initially to figure out where the candidates stand; candidates are then eliminated if they cannot get to 15% and another round of voting takes place to see where those freed-up votes will go. Even though Martin O’Malley was in most precincts easily eliminated, the existence of multiple votes would still foul a recount process.

This, by the way, is one of the better arguments for eliminating caucuses and sticking to normal ballot procedures in primaries.

Politico’s Glenn Thrush and Annie Karni conclude that Hillary 2016 looks a lot like Hillary 2008:

Iowa wasn’t just supposed to be a tentative first step in Clinton’s inevitable march to the Democratic nomination, it was meant to be the cornerstone of a rebuilt political persona – and her national team was built from Iowa outward, with a foundational goal of winning here, and winning big.

But nothing is ever easy with Hillary Clinton – especially not here — and her inability to ride a first-class ground organization to triumph underscores the candidate’s weakness and the lack of a message that resonates with primary voters. For months, the Republican side of the aisle has been filled with drama and uncertainty – yet in the end it was a 74-year-old, wild-haired Democratic socialist who has muddied a contest that was supposed to be predictable. …

In 2008, Clinton’s ambivalence about Iowa resulted in a muddled strategy and a flawed field operation. This time she had the best operation money could buy and experience could muster: The 100-plus staffer operation was built by Clinton’s 35-year-old campaign manager Robby Mook, Clinton’s best field organizer eight years ago, and he devoted the bulk of the candidate’s time and the campaign’s resources to the first four voting states, with an extreme focus on Iowa over other states where the campaign’s presence was bare-bones.

But Clinton suffered from the same structural disadvantage here that hurt her in 2008. Her appeal was limited, mostly, to older frequent caucus goers – with a goal of maximizing turnout and pulling from a poll of about 20,000 Democratic voters who never participate in the labor-intensive caucus process. Sanders, who attracted big crowds on college campuses and high schools, had a much larger reservoir of young people to draw from – and he apparently did just that on caucus night, according to initial estimates.

Yes, but in 2008 Hillary finished in third place, not tied for first. Sanders had begun to overtake her in some polls over the past month, so Bernie wasn’t entirely the underdog last night. Sanders probably needed a clear win to rattle Hillary’s supporters. A 50/50 split might not have been Hillary’s dream come true, but with a beating approaching in New Hampshire, it’s enough of a winning narrative to sustain her campaign until South Carolina. Sanders has to prove he can beat Hillary somewhere other than his backyard in New Hampshire and in the prairie-populist states in the Midwest. And he hasn’t quite proven the latter — yet, anyway.


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Starting her “inevitable” march to the coronation with massive vote fraud (to narrowly beat an old Socialist) doesn’t bode well for Comrade Thighness’s chance to stay out of prison does it?

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:44 AM

I didn’t think a recount was possible in Iowa.

But, what the heck, “Let the games continue!”

trigon on February 2, 2016 at 8:46 AM

And I believe we have Tim Scott’s endorsement of Rubio coming today.

Zaggs on February 2, 2016 at 8:48 AM

Hillary 2016 looks a lot like Hillary 2008

Inevitable!!!!!!!!!!!

Bitter Clinger on February 2, 2016 at 8:48 AM

Ha ha! The old crone doesn’t learn, does she? You don’t send a Mook to get a job done, you do it yourself….

ScottG on February 2, 2016 at 8:48 AM

Once Bernie commie reaches the southern primaries, he’ll be toast. It’s going to be Hillary. So we need to direct fire on her. Sanders is a novelty and a distraction. However, he’s also a reason why lots of young libs may sit home on election night in November. No love lost for Hillary.

cww on February 2, 2016 at 8:48 AM

Who cares about this? Let’s take a look at Ben Carson accusing Cruz’s campaign of cheating last night! Which he likely did- the oily sleazball!

BettyRuth on February 2, 2016 at 8:49 AM

Predictions:

– Trump breaks 30%
– criminal socialist gal beats crazy socialist guy by a nose

ElectricPhase on February 1, 2016 at 7:45 PM

Well, at least I was half right.

ElectricPhase on February 2, 2016 at 8:51 AM

It isn’t just a recount that Bernie needs, it’s a “re-flip” of six coins.

Clinton’s coin flip win percentage looks to be as likely as an overnight cattle futures windfall.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 2, 2016 at 8:51 AM

Hillary 2016 looking like Hillary 2008?

The Bern is going to destroy the worst campaigner ever. Not only is she an awful campaigner, she is also dishonest, uncharming, unattractive, and unfunny. And I don’t think being a blatant felon is a selling point.

NotCoach on February 2, 2016 at 8:52 AM

Who cares about this? Let’s take a look at Ben Carson accusing Cruz’s campaign of cheating last night! Which he likely did- the oily sleazball!

BettyRuth on February 2, 2016 at 8:49 AM

Can’t tell if this is sarcasm, but if not, it looks like ankle-biting. Come on.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on February 2, 2016 at 8:52 AM

It isn’t just a recount that Bernie needs, it’s a “re-flip” of six coins.

Clinton’s coin flip win percentage looks to be as likely as an overnight cattle futures windfall.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 2, 2016 at 8:51 AM

Just throw some water on the old witch.

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM

Who cares about this? Let’s take a look at Ben Carson accusing Cruz’s campaign of cheating last night! Which he likely did- the oily sleazball!

BettyRuth on February 2, 2016 at 8:49 AM

That’s mildly racist.

Happy Nomad on February 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM

It isn’t just a recount that Bernie needs, it’s a “re-flip” of six coins.

Clinton’s coin flip win percentage looks to be as likely as an overnight cattle futures windfall.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 2, 2016 at 8:51 AM

1 in 64, or 1.56% chance to win six out of six.

NotCoach on February 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM

Who cares about this? Let’s take a look at Ben Carson accusing Cruz’s campaign of cheating last night! Which he likely did- the oily sleazball!

BettyRuth

Be interesting if more independent proof emerges of this. If so, can’t see how people can argue Cruz is a principled man.

Zaggs on February 2, 2016 at 8:54 AM

Hillary 2016 looking like Hillary 2008?

The Bern is going to destroy the worst campaigner ever. Not only is she an awful campaigner, she is also dishonest, uncharming, unattractive, and unfunny. And I don’t think being a blatant felon is a selling point.

NotCoach on February 2, 2016 at 8:52 AM

This makes Obama look less and less like the “greatest campaigner evah” doesn’t it?

ANYONE can beat Hillary it seems.

And neither McCain nor Romney even TRIED to run against him in the general!

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

Aside from being impossible — there’s no real way to reconstruct the caucus process — and useless — there’s no chance that fraud was committed, the possible effect on any delegate total is negligible — a recount is pointless. The media, the voters, the donors and the activists have all digested the Iowa results as reported and moved on. Every second Bernie spends worrying — or, worse yet, talking — about Iowa is a distraction from the next contest.

urban elitist on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

Hillary was over 50 points ahead of Bernie just months ago…that makes Trumps 20 point lead and loss a “close call”.

Imagine, a 50 point lead, lost to someone like Bernie.

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

As bad as Cruz’s speech was last night, Hillary’s was terrifying. Imagine listening to that for 8 years.

Doughboy on February 2, 2016 at 8:56 AM

1 in 64, or 1.56% chance to win six out of six.

NotCoach on February 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM

Kind of like how the NBA Lottery always seems to give the #1 pick to the bigger TV market despite having the fewest balls in the hopper, no?

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:56 AM

Hillary was over 50 points ahead of Bernie just months ago…that makes Trumps 20 point lead and loss a “close call”.

Imagine, a 50 point lead, lost to someone like Bernie.

right2bright

To be fair, they’re both senior citizens. Its possible her supporters just drooled on the wrong ballot.

Zaggs on February 2, 2016 at 8:56 AM

As bad as Cruz’s speech was last night, Hillary’s was terrifying. Imagine listening to that for 8 years.

Doughboy on February 2, 2016 at 8:56 AM

America’s Ex Wife -Rush Limbaugh

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:57 AM

Kind of like how the NBA Lottery always seems to give the #1 pick to the bigger TV market despite having the fewest balls in the hopper, no?

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:56 AM

I don’t know. I have no interest in the NBA.

NotCoach on February 2, 2016 at 8:58 AM

HA! It does make for some prime popcorn pop’n!

bernzright777 on February 2, 2016 at 8:58 AM

That’s mildly racist.

Happy Nomad on February 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM

Really? And what race am I insulting here?

BettyRuth on February 2, 2016 at 8:58 AM

This makes Obama look less and less like the “greatest campaigner evah” doesn’t it?

ANYONE can beat Hillary it seems.

And neither McCain nor Romney even TRIED to run against him in the general!

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

Yep.

NotCoach on February 2, 2016 at 8:59 AM

And after that, we’re off to Nevada and then South Carolina…

YEEEAAARRRRRGGGHHHH!

(Wait he’s turning blue, quick, someone get the defibrillator!)

Pain Train on February 2, 2016 at 9:00 AM

Kind of like how the NBA Lottery always seems to give the #1 pick to the bigger TV market despite having the fewest balls in the hopper, no?

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:56 AM

That’s not exactly true.

Sincerely,
The Minnesota Timberwolves and #1 pick Karl-Anthony Towns

Doughboy on February 2, 2016 at 9:01 AM

Just flip a coin again

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 9:01 AM

NotCoach on February 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM

Did Bill Bellecik flip it for her?

artist on February 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM

Who cares about this? Let’s take a look at Ben Carson accusing Cruz’s campaign of cheating last night! Which he likely did- the oily sleazball!

BettyRuth

“Likely”? Proof…

I can imagine someone saying something like…”When this is over, Carson may think about taking another break in campaigning”…

And then people taking that out of context…lot’s of things are said, lots of “smack” talked, it’s a competition. Maybe even a few elbows thrown.

Carson, and I was a supporter of him, needs to man up and quit whining. He was MIA in the last debate, that is why he lost…he was a distant 4 in this caucus…he was not relevant.

Ben, get out and work…work hard, fight for what you believe in, don’t whine.

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM

the Democratic Party’s side of the caucus turned into a real nailbiter.
===============

So,

DemoTardTrickery extends into there/thier own camps as well!

Gaurd ye Maximus Gluteus, thats CYA in Rio Linden!..(sarc)

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 9:03 AM

To be fair, they’re both senior citizens. Its possible her supporters just drooled on the wrong ballot.

Zaggs on February 2, 2016 at 8:56 AM

DroolGate!!

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 9:04 AM

I would think that an effective recount would be impossible for the Democrats in Iowa. They don’t use paper ballots; they just divide into groups and get counted off. All that a recount can do would be to go through the results that each precinct reported and confirm whether the precinct correctly assigned its delegates accordingly. It wouldn’t be possible to recount whether a precinct accurately reported the number of Hillary and Sanders supporters that it had.

J.S.K. on February 2, 2016 at 9:04 AM

This makes Obama look less and less like the “greatest campaigner evah” doesn’t it?

ANYONE can beat Hillary it seems.

And neither McCain nor Romney even TRIED to run against him in the general!

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

Yep.

NotCoach on February 2, 2016 at 8:59 AM

Just think about it. Obama NEVER DID win a truly contested election.

He either ran unopposed or against crippled candidates who had been neutralized by suddenly unsealed “sealed” divorce records.

And Establishment RINOS McCain and Romney basically refused to attack his numerous weaknesses AT ALL.

¡Jeb! has had to campaign harder than King Putt ever did.

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 9:04 AM

So,

it appears Feel The Burn is gonna light up the DNC Convention
in a ReCreate 68′ DNC Riots,…or nots:
—————————————_____________________________

Manchester, NH
1h
Bernie Sanders: ‘We’re taking this to the convention, and I think tonight shows the American people that this is a campaign that can win’ – @gdebenedetti
See original on twitter.com
===========================

Gabriel Debenedetti [email protected] 59m59 minutes ago Londonderry, NH

Caution on reading too much into Sanders’ refusal to rule out contesting the results: he literally just landed, was offline for 3 hours.
============

Gabriel Debenedetti [email protected] 1h1 hour ago Manchester, NH

5 am at the Manchester airport private terminal. Bernie Sanders. Ted Cruz. The entire political press corps. 2016!
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Gabriel Debenedetti [email protected] 1h1 hour ago Manchester, NH

Asked if he would contest the results, Sanders said “honestly, we’re just getting off the plane.”
==============

Gabriel Debenedetti [email protected] 1h1 hour ago Manchester, NH

MANCHESTER, NH — “we’re going to have to look a little more closely at the election results” says Sanders
===============

Gabriel Debenedetti [email protected] 2h2 hours ago

Sanders campaign manager Weaver also told reporters in flight that Clinton aides declared victory early to pressure networks into calling it
================

https://twitter.com/gdebenedetti

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 6:04 AM

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 9:05 AM

DroolGate!!

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 9:04 AM

Is that hanging drool or pooling drool?

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 9:06 AM

Bernie – you have to attack Hillary.
The emails.

albill on February 2, 2016 at 9:06 AM

*pours last gallon of popcorn into popcorn maker*

*opens and preps another 50 lb bag*

Good Lt on February 2, 2016 at 9:06 AM

Imagine, a 50 point lead, lost to someone like Bernie.

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

Imagine Martin O’Malley. He has to be looking at Bernie and Blue and is dumbfounded that he didn’t gain more traction.

Happy Nomad on February 2, 2016 at 9:07 AM

I would think that an effective recount would be impossible for the Democrats in Iowa. They don’t use paper ballots; they just divide into groups and get counted off. All that a recount can do would be to go through the results that each precinct reported and confirm whether the precinct correctly assigned its delegates accordingly. It wouldn’t be possible to recount whether a precinct accurately reported the number of Hillary and Sanders supporters that it had.

J.S.K. on February 2, 2016 at 9:04 AM

This is what would have happened in 2008 if she’d taken things seriously, when Obama surprised Her Thighness in Iowa, but she was so conceited as to barely deign to campaign at this point back then if you remember!

Hillary had to play the FRAUD card to avoid starting 0-2…

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 9:08 AM

Imagine Martin O’Malley. He has to be looking at Bernie and Blue and is dumbfounded that he didn’t gain more traction.

Happy Nomad on February 2, 2016 at 9:07 AM

Here is where being a Comrade Senator and not having been a Comrade Mayor helped The Comrade Senator from Vermont:

O’Malley was mayor of Baltimore and everyone knows what an UNMITIGATED DISASTER Baltomore is…

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 9:09 AM

Hillary had to play the FRAUD card to avoid starting 0-2…

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 9:08 AM

…tip o’ the iceberg…if she’s the nominee expect to see a lot more of that exact card being played from a stacked deck…it’s the only way she can win…

Pelosi Schmelosi on February 2, 2016 at 9:11 AM

IowaDemocraticParty Retweeted
Samuel Lau [email protected] 6h6 hours ago

Statement from IDP Chair @DrAndyMc on Tonight’s Historically Close Caucus Results

http://iowademocrats.org/statement-from-idp-chair-on-tonights-historically-close-caucus-results/
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IowaDemocraticParty [email protected] 11h11 hours ago

#IADemCaucus results are coming in! See them here: http://bit.ly/1m8k560

https://www.idpcaucuses.com/#/state
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https://twitter.com/iowademocrats

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 9:12 AM

…tip o’ the iceberg…if she’s the nominee expect to see a lot more of that exact card being played from a stacked deck…it’s the only way she can win…

Pelosi Schmelosi on February 2, 2016 at 9:11 AM

Except that she’s going to have to play at the Iranian/Venezuelan level of fraud to win. And that will provoke armed rebellion in the United States.

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 9:13 AM

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM

Just heard Ben Carson talking about it on FOX, and Drudge has screen shot of Steve King tweeting it.

BettyRuth on February 2, 2016 at 9:15 AM

Imagine Dats:
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The Hill [email protected] 23m23 minutes ago

Warren won’t endorse Clinton or Sanders after #IowaCaucus: http://hill.cm/wXI1NTg
=======================

https://twitter.com/thehill

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 9:18 AM

Killary is in real trouble.

She put all her eggs in the Iowa basket.

blammm on February 2, 2016 at 9:19 AM

Pass some over this way good lT

Extra butter please

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 9:20 AM

Good LT
Sorry :(

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 9:21 AM

-Can’t decide which could be the most enjoyable way for this to “wash out”:

1. Indictment, dropping out [sub-categories, “health”, straight arrest OR even remote possibility of huge support collapse];

2. “Legal” delays, loss to Bern-It-Down [sub-categories, more coin-toss and/or other similar, impossible-to-believe-except-among-moronic-dimwitted-hangers-on fraudulent behavior exposed];

3. “Legal” delays, “WIN”ning, loss to Cruz/Trump or Trump/Cruz.

I’ll leave other delightful combinations to the readers’ imagination[s]…

RL on February 2, 2016 at 9:22 AM

O’Malley was mayor of Baltimore and everyone knows what an UNMITIGATED DISASTER Baltomore is…

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 9:09 AM

There is no question that O’Malley would be a disaster. He’s the governor that managed to tax the rain. That being said, he’s younger and a populist. To be so decisively routed by a cranky old commie and a corrupt liar has got to be hard on his ego.

Happy Nomad on February 2, 2016 at 9:24 AM

Soros is the winner regardless of which Dem takes the prize:
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/soros-6-million-for-hillary-speaks-volumes/

onlineanalyst on February 2, 2016 at 9:31 AM

Bernie – you have to attack Hillary.
The emails.

albill on February 2, 2016 at 9:06 AM

But Bernie has already weighed in on this issue. He’s “sick and tired of hearing about [Blue Clinton’s] damn emails.”

More seriously though, while all the focus has been on the billionaire douchebag, the Dem establishment has to be close to full panic mode at this point. Blue was supposed to be able to sashay through the primary process unchallenged. She did better in Iowa than her 2008 bronze but a statistical tie with Bernie Sanders in her must-win early primary is hardly the kind of message of inevitability that Blue needs at this point in time. She is apt to go into South Carolina with two defeats (and a tie in Iowa is a defeat for Blue).

Happy Nomad on February 2, 2016 at 9:32 AM

How does one recount a caucus? Even on the Republican side that would be difficult

The idea behind a recount is to find some misplaced ballot boxes stuffed with Bernie votes. But, he’s not corrupt enough to pull it off. Hillary on the other hand…….

..as the old saying goes …If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying. And it’s only cheating if you get caught.

Red Creed on February 2, 2016 at 9:38 AM

It looks like Sanders is narrating his rape fantasies in that video.

Cecil Corn on February 2, 2016 at 9:46 AM

I would enjoy this election being Sanders vs Thomas Jefferson. For that to happen we’d finally get a good test of free stuff v get off my lawn.

Limerick on February 2, 2016 at 9:48 AM

I don’t know. I have no interest in the NBA.

NotCoach on February 2, 2016 at 8:58 AM

RACIST!!!!!!

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 2, 2016 at 9:49 AM

Is it time for SanderClaus to start dropping some reindeer leavings on ClinTron’s doorstep? He has to know by now that he won’t win by following Marquess de Queensbury’s rules against the sleazy ClinTron crime family.

MJBrutus on February 2, 2016 at 9:51 AM

all the focus has been on the billionaire douchebag, the Dem establishment has to be close to full panic mode at this point. Blue was supposed to be able to sashay through the primary process unchallenged. She did better in Iowa than her 2008 bronze but a statistical tie with Bernie Sanders in her must-win early primary is hardly the kind of message of inevitability that Blue needs at this point in time. She is apt to go into South Carolina with two defeats (and a tie in Iowa is a defeat for Blue).

Happy Nomad on February 2, 2016 at 9:32 AM

Speaking of douchebags, you seem much better-versed with the zany antics of these goosesteppers than you are with what drives the majority of patriotic Americans.

Why are you posting here?

Younggod on February 2, 2016 at 9:54 AM

— there’s no chance that fraud was committed…

urban elitist on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

That’s a pretty bold statement. Committing fraud is Democrats’ default option, and what they do best.

GrumpyOldFart on February 2, 2016 at 10:00 AM

— there’s no chance that fraud was committed…

urban elitist on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

odds of 6 straight coin flips going your way:

0.5 ^ 6 = .015625

or about 1.6%

Nothing to see here.

MJBrutus on February 2, 2016 at 10:07 AM

It must have been a two headed coin.. with DWS’s pock marked grill on both sides.

Red Creed on February 2, 2016 at 10:48 AM

Socialists aren’t very good at math, I doubt a recount would do Bernie any good…..

Hank_Scorpio on February 2, 2016 at 10:52 AM

2016 US elections
2m
Editor’s note:

The Iowa Democratic Party results page reports 100 percent of precincts are now counted

for in the caucus race. Hillary Clinton has very narrowly won the race, according to the results, with 49.8 percent of the vote, compared to Bernie Sanders with 49.6 percent. AP reports that Clinton garners 22 delegates, while Sanders takes 21. – Rebecca
End of note
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2016 US elections
10m
Hillary Clinton narrowly wins Iowa Democratic caucus over Bernie Sanders, 49.8%-49.6%
End of alert

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 11:18 AM

Here is where being a Comrade Senator and not having been a Comrade Mayor helped The Comrade Senator from Vermont:

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 9:09 AM

Actually, Bernie used to be a Comrade Mayor. He was mayor of Burlington, Vermont, from 1981 to 1989. That’s when I first heard of him, because it was unusual for a socialist running as an independent to be elected mayor anywhere in the U.S. Fortunately, it still is unusual for that to happen.

J.S.K. on February 2, 2016 at 11:28 AM

The idea behind a recount is to find some misplaced ballot boxes stuffed with Bernie votes. But, he’s not corrupt enough to pull it off.

Red Creed on February 2, 2016 at 9:38 AM

If you find any ballot boxes at all for the Iowa Dem caucuses, that would probably be a fraud. The Iowa Democrats don’t use paper ballots. They stand in different corners of a room and count off the number of people in the group for each candidate.

(The Iowa Republicans do use paper ballots to vote by secret ballot at their caucuses.)

J.S.K. on February 2, 2016 at 11:30 AM

I would enjoy this election being Sanders vs Thomas Jefferson. For that to happen we’d finally get a good test of free stuff v get off my lawn.

Limerick on February 2, 2016 at 9:48 AM

???

Thomas Jefferson is term-limited by the 22nd Amendment. He won the 1800 and 1804 elections. (Among other problems.)

J.S.K. on February 2, 2016 at 11:32 AM

Aside from being impossible — there’s no real way to reconstruct the caucus process — and useless — there’s no chance that fraud was committed, the possible effect on any delegate total is negligible — a recount is pointless. The media, the voters, the donors and the activists have all digested the Iowa results as reported and moved on. Every second Bernie spends worrying — or, worse yet, talking — about Iowa is a distraction from the next contest.

urban effetist on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

LOL! That’s some Industrial-Class Spin there, son. When do you start your new job with Maytag?

First of all, unless you personally supervised each and every one of those Iowa caucus meetings last night and saw/counted each and every ballot cast, you can’t say that “no fraud occurred”.

F-#1.

Likewise, the part of your statement that I bolded proves my point perfectly, but you were obviously too dim to realize it when you typed it.

If there is “no real way to reconstruct the caucus process”, as you confidently assert, then there is no real way to know if fraud occurred, and no real way to know if fraud didn’t occur.

F-#2.

Likewise, you are ignoring several allegations of irregularity regarding last night’s proceedings:

1. Supposedly one of Hillario!’s “Iowa” caucus precinct Captains was in reality an out-of-state Clinton Operative, and not even a resident of Iowa.

F-#3.

2. The Far-Right News Source C-SPAN has actually reported (with video evidence to back it up) actual Clinton Voter Fraud last night in Iowa.

Clinton voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa Caucus…Caucus chair and Clinton precinct captain do not conduct actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately mislead caucus.

F-#4.

3. And in that video, you can clearly see many people violating Iowa
protocol, which does not allow them to wear buttons or clothing supporting any candidate. Obviously those Hillario! Cultists thing they’re Above the Law too!

F-#5.

Del Dolemonte on February 2, 2016 at 11:44 AM

Bernie needs to ask for a recount. Up to now he has shown a total lack of understanding of how bare-knuckle politics is done. Time to wake up. For all his own seeming integrity, he is facing a gutter fighter. Unless he can match fire with fire, he has no chance. Every setback has to be fought. He will not win all of them, but at least he can make Hillary work harder at cheating.

bartbeast on February 2, 2016 at 12:09 PM

My guess is the DNC caucus info Bernie needs was stored on a hard drive that just crashed this morning and was thrown away.

MasterChef on February 2, 2016 at 12:43 PM

Did the Hillary camp call heads on all 6 coin tosses?

Valiant on February 2, 2016 at 12:53 PM

It isn’t just a recount that Bernie needs, it’s a “re-flip” of six coins.

Clinton’s coin flip win percentage looks to be as likely as an overnight cattle futures windfall.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 2, 2016 at 8:51 AM

Bernie needs to examine the coins to make sure they really have two sides, and haven’t been altered or “fixed”!

Someone also needs to check on the coin flipper…to make sure he hasn’t been “Vince Fostered” or “Benghazied”!

landlines on February 2, 2016 at 1:26 PM

Iowa wasn’t just supposed to be a tentative first step in Clinton’s inevitable march to the Democratic nomination, it was meant to be the cornerstone of a rebuilt political persona – and her national team was built from Iowa outward, with a foundational goal of winning here, and winning big.

Coin flips know nothing of policies or past performance and experience. They don’t read up about email scandals or dead ambassadors.

Clinton should play the Powerball lottery with that kind of luck. What was it like 5 out of 6?

Sanders needs to fire whoever was calling the tosses and never gamble again.

Oxymoron on February 2, 2016 at 1:34 PM

It isn’t just a recount that Bernie needs, it’s a “re-flip” of six coins.

Clinton’s coin flip win percentage looks to be as likely as an overnight cattle futures windfall.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 2, 2016 at 8:51 AM

The coin toss would not have been necessary if it weren’t for all of the caucus participants disappearing from the various precincts. Where did they go? Were they bribed to leave? Were they ever present? Someone needs to look into that aspect.

Hillary wins 6 Iowa precincts by coin tosses…

“… disputed the results after 60 caucus participants apparently disappeared from the proceedings.”

“Similar situations were reported elsewhere, including at a precinct in Des Moines, at another precinct in Des Moines, in Newton, in West Branch and in Davenport. In all five situations, Clinton won the toss.”

Oxymoron on February 2, 2016 at 1:41 PM

What kind of byzantine system is this?

Why is Iowa holding a death grip on their mobbed up process?

Designed to facilitate the boldest crook?

papertiger on February 2, 2016 at 1:44 PM

Sanders probably needed a clear win to rattle Hillary’s supporters.

He actually needed an overwhelming win given the analysis by 538 and Cook that Sanders needed 70% of the Iowa delegates just to be on track to tie Hillary by the end of the process.

Tlaloc on February 2, 2016 at 3:20 PM

Starting her “inevitable” march to the coronation with massive vote fraud (to narrowly beat an old Socialist) doesn’t bode well for Comrade Thighness’s chance to stay out of prison does it?

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:44 AM

Oh, look, a conservative accusing vote fraud with no evidence. Isn’t that new and different.

Tlaloc on February 2, 2016 at 3:21 PM

This makes Obama look less and less like the “greatest campaigner evah” doesn’t it?

ANYONE can beat Hillary it seems.

ConstantineXI on February 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

Wow, it’s not even 24 hours and you’re already rewriting the results? That has to be a record.

Tlaloc on February 2, 2016 at 3:24 PM

a tie in Iowa is a defeat for Blue

Happy Nomad on February 2, 2016 at 9:32 AM

Actually just the opposite:
http://theweek.com/articles/602929/sorry-bernie-tie-iowa-still-win-hillary

Tlaloc on February 2, 2016 at 3:30 PM

Why is Bernie standing in the dark?

John the Libertarian on February 2, 2016 at 4:17 PM

J.S.K. on February 2, 2016 at 11:30 AM

If the election judges were required to keep a record of their headcounts — such as, a tablet with hashmarks for instance. Then, there could be a basis for a recount. OTOH, if there are no such records (and this appears to be the case), then the fraud has been built in to the process. Six out of six coin flip tie breakers going one way sounds very fishy and should be investigated. And it should disqualify Iowa from getting the top spot ever again.

Red Creed on February 2, 2016 at 5:21 PM

Sanders: We may look into a recount

Give it up Bernie, no group has more experience in voter fraud than Democrats.

RJL on February 2, 2016 at 8:46 PM