“Rattle of death”: Team Bush fears wave of donors, endorsements set to break for Rubio in New Hampshire

posted at 8:01 pm on February 2, 2016 by Allahpundit

If Rubio finished third with, say, 14 percent last night, today Team Jeb would be touting it as proof that he’s a paper tiger with a hard ceiling in the mid-teens and that the only hope of “somewhat conservative” voters against Trump and Cruz is a RINO with a giant war chest. That might have appealed to undecideds in New Hampshire, especially if it’s true that there’s a “Stop Trump” faction that cares more about Trump losing than any of the other candidates winning.

But we are where we are. Rubio finished so well that, with another day of campaigning in Iowa — or a few million dollars less in Right to Rise attack ads — he might have actually nudged past Trump for second place. As it is, with him having blown past 20 percent there while Bush, Kasich, and Christie failed to crack single digits combined, there’s no reason for Jeb Bush and Mike Murphy to keep going except to sabotage Rubio in New Hampshire and South Carolina. And the only beneficiaries of doing that at this point are Trump and Cruz. Stark choice for Jeb: Keep attacking Marco and help your least favorite candidate in the race by doing so, or lay off this week and help your “dear friend” chart a path for the nomination by finishing strong in NH? At this point, if Jeb’s serious about stopping Trump, the best thing he could do would be to drop out and support Rubio. Failing that, he could at least leave Rubio alone and aim the Right to Rise death star at Trump for a few days. It’s a matter of strategy. If you’re not going to be the nominee at this point, why not use what influence you have to make sure the nominee is the guy who’s most to your liking?

Bush 2016 being what it is, I assume it’s full speed ahead in killing Rubio. But not for much longer if you’re a Jeb donor:

With the GOP hierarchy warming to Rubio, the squeeze is suddenly on struggling establishment contenders Chris Christie, John Kasich, and Bush, who must convince party higher-ups that they have a reason to continue on. On Tuesday morning, top Bush donors and finance officials held two conference calls to discuss the path forward. On one, according to one participant, there was an acknowledgement of the campaign’s increasingly long odds and an agreement that, barring a strong Bush showing in New Hampshire, many Bush donors would soon bolt to Rubio.

“Have you ever heard the phrase ‘rattle of death?’” the participant said, describing the mood on both calls…

Two Bush aides, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said there was growing concern that Rubio was on the verge of getting a wave of endorsements from senators, state party chairs, and influential party officials and donors – a scenario, they conceded, that would give Rubio an aura of invincibility in the fight for support in the establishment lane. For Bush to remain viable, they said, he would need to out-perform Rubio in New Hampshire, a state that the former Florida governor has made a cornerstone of his primary campaign. Many top GOP officials see the state as the last, best chance for Rubio’s establishment rivals to stop him.

Bush reportedly courted Tim Scott but that endorsement went to Rubio last night. It’s not just Politico’s sources who hear Bush donors trudging towards the lifeboats either:

“It’s now a three-person race,” Rubio’s spokesman assured Time this morning. Granted, one of those persons hasn’t won a state yet or led a single poll in Iowa, New Hampshire, or South Carolina in many months, but the “invisible primary” is arguably more important than any state and it sounds like Rubio’s now got that one about wrapped up. BuzzFeed looked at FEC records for the last few months of last year and found that some Bush donors have already been transitioning to Rubio: 119 contributors to Jeb quietly gave money to Rubio for the first time in December, with many more doubtless set to kick in this week if they haven’t already. On the betting site PredictWise, Rubio went from a 33 percent chance of winning the nomination last night to 54 percent after Trump’s defeat was secure. Pretty good night for Mr. Third Place. Jeb’s night in Iowa was … less good:

According to ad-buy data collected by Morning Consult, Bush and his super PAC, Right to Rise, have spent about $14.1 million on ads in Iowa. That’s more money than any other presidential candidate has spent in the state. And ultimately, the return on investment for Bush was dismal.

Since he received just 2.8 percent of the vote in Iowa Monday night — and walked away with just one delegate — Bush ended up spending about $2,800 per vote.

That’s about 18 times as much money as first-place winner Ted Cruz spent for each vote he received. It’s also 34 times as much as silver medalist Donald Trump spent, and 10 times the amount spent by third-place winner Marco Rubio.

Bush’s Super PAC still had an amazing $58 million in cash on hand as of New Year’s Day, meaning that they can keep launching missiles at whoever they like well on into March and beyond, but their pool of big donors has already dried up and blown away. Per the latest campaign finance reports, after receiving contributions from 9,400 donors in the first half of 2015, Right to Rise received donations from … 155 in the second half. Out of a total haul of $15.1 million raised in that period, $10 million came from one donation from one individual. Bush’s donors have already abandoned ship. He’s running now out of pride and, perhaps, spite.

As for Iowa, it’s tempting to say that he shouldn’t be mocked for losing badly when he didn’t really contest the state, but not contesting it wasn’t part of the original plan. When he first got into the race early last year, he reached out to GOP bigwigs in Iowa to prepare for a campaign there. And why not? His brother and father both won during their first runs for president. Traditionally, Iowa has been Bush country. As recently as four months ago, he predicted he’d win the caucus. As it is, the only thing Right to Rise got for its $14 million was one delegate and the consolation that tearing into Rubio on TV might have made the difference in him finishing slightly behind a guy who spent last summer humiliating Bush every day instead of finishing slightly ahead. And the punchline is, it doesn’t much matter for New Hampshire either way. Rubio got what he wanted from Iowa despite Bush’s best efforts and now he can effectively eliminate Jeb and Trump if he somehow pulls off an upset win next Tuesday. How would that be for irony — Trump and Bush, shoved towards the exit by the same guy on the same night.

Exit question: When does Jeb get out? He’s not going to push on to Florida, peeling crucial center-right votes away from Rubio in South Carolina and the SEC states without any hope of winning, is he?


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Thanks Iowa, great job helping Rubio. Great judgment displayed as usual.

Redstone on February 2, 2016 at 8:05 PM

…water boy instead of ma ma’s boy.

JugEarsButtHurt on February 2, 2016 at 8:06 PM

the squeeze is suddenly on struggling establishment contenders Chris Christie, John Kasich, and Bush, who must convince party higher-ups that they have a reason to continue on.

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Pray tell, WHO are these unnamed “party higher-ups” to whom each of these candidates answers?

Exit question: When does Jeb get out? He’s not going to push on to Florida, peeling crucial center-right votes away from Rubio in South Carolina and the SEC states without any hope of winning, is he?

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You’ll never understand the “scorched earth” approach – so why try answering this silly question.

Think about it, Jeb! is an alpha male compared to you, AP.

PolAgnostic on February 2, 2016 at 8:08 PM

This is exactly where ¡Yeb! wanted to be at this point …

ShainS on February 2, 2016 at 8:08 PM

hope of “somewhat conservative” voters against Trump and Cruz

…Allah,Allah…Allah!

JugEarsButtHurt on February 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM

Rubio picks El Jeb for veep, ala Dog Eater pulling Biden back in to shore up his inexperience wall.

Bonus: They both speak Spanish and will be able to greet our 20 million new citizens in their native language when they arrive in 2017.

Bishop on February 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM

but the “invisible primary” is arguably more important than any state

…isn’t that what they said about Trump too…??…that he was a paper tiger in the polls but wait until people actually cast a vote..??

Pelosi Schmelosi on February 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM

I would like to thank Jazz Shaw for doing a Cruz post at 8 am this morning.

Amadeus on February 2, 2016 at 8:10 PM

You’ll never understand the “scorched earth” approach – so why try answering this silly question.

Think about it, Jeb! is an alpha male compared to you, AP.

PolAgnostic on February 2, 2016 at 8:08 PM

The correct term is “scrotched earth”

#blastfromthepast

Bishop on February 2, 2016 at 8:10 PM

Any donors still pumping money to Bush are fools

tej on February 2, 2016 at 8:10 PM

Exit question: When does Jeb get out?

It is all about him growing up listening to his father talk about floating around in the Pacific on a raft. Jeb thinks the USS Finback is still out there and going to pick him up out of the water.

Limerick on February 2, 2016 at 8:11 PM

Out of a total haul of $15.1 million raised in that period, $10 million came from one donation from one individual.

…how many illegals does $10 million “buy” these days…

Pelosi Schmelosi on February 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM

Thanks Iowa, great job helping Rubio. Great judgment displayed as usual.

Redstone on February 2, 2016 at 8:05 PM

Do you think Trump skipping the debate helped Rubio? I have no idea, but heard someone today speculating that Rubio may have benefited the most from acquiring disaffected Trump supporters …

ShainS on February 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM

Scarborough Suggests Hugh Hewitt Has ‘Tingle Up the Leg’ for Rubio

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2015/10/16/scarborough-suggests-hugh-hewitt-has-tingle-leg-rubio

Joe Scarborough swung a double-edged sword on today’s Morning Joe, swiping simultaneously at his MSNBC colleague Chris Matthews and at radio host and pro-amnesty establishment hack Hugh Hewitt.

The subject was Marco Rubio, with Hewitt calling him “the most dynamic speaker the Republican party has seen ever, since Lincoln.” “Since Lincoln,” asked Scarborough incredulously — “do you have a tingle going up your leg?” Scarborough said that rather than recalling Lincoln, “when I see Marco speaking, I’m seeing a guy that’s running for student government.”

anotherJoe on February 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM

As “an act of love“, somebody needs to tell Jeb Bush he disqualified himself from ever becoming President of the United States when he sided with the ILLEGAL aliens over the safety and security of AMERICAN CITIZENS!

wren on February 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM

Rubio picks El Jeb for veep …

Bishop on February 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM

I think they’d win the Mexican Presidential election of 2017 in a landslide …

ShainS on February 2, 2016 at 8:14 PM

The correct term is “scrotched earth”

#blastfromthepast

Bishop on February 2, 2016 at 8:10 PM


LOL!

PolAgnostic on February 2, 2016 at 8:14 PM

I would like to thank Jazz Shaw for doing a Cruz post at 8 am this morning.

Amadeus on February 2, 2016 at 8:10 PM

Heh.

ShainS on February 2, 2016 at 8:15 PM

I would like to thank Jazz Shaw for doing a Cruz post at 8 am this morning.
Amadeus on February 2, 2016 at 8:10 PM

++

GaltBlvnAtty on February 2, 2016 at 8:16 PM

Out of a total haul of $15.1 million raised in that period, $10 million came from one donation from one individual.

…whoa…wait a minute…yep it’s gotta be…

Any donors still pumping money to Bush are fools

tej on February 2, 2016 at 8:10 PM

…Trump cut the check to put the “hit” on Rubio…

…now it all makes sense…brilliant…

Pelosi Schmelosi on February 2, 2016 at 8:18 PM

Feel good story of the day.

rbj on February 2, 2016 at 8:20 PM

What makes you think the betrayed Yeb! detests Rubio more than Trump?

The Bushes are about loyalty above principle.

Valiant on February 2, 2016 at 8:22 PM

Should read detests Trump over Rubio.

Valiant on February 2, 2016 at 8:28 PM

Go cruz!

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 8:32 PM

Dear Jeb Bush donors,
With out spending a dime, I have one less delegate than Jeb. I’m sure I could waste your money just as well as Jeb-Jeb could and maybe even give you less for your money. You seem like a shrewd decision maker, that is why I’m giving you this chance to squander your money even faster. Please starting donating to Flange today and I promise you’ll get absolutely nothing for it.

Flange on February 2, 2016 at 8:32 PM

Do you think Trump skipping the debate helped Rubio? I have no idea, but heard someone today speculating that Rubio may have benefited the most from acquiring disaffected Trump supporters …

ShainS on February 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM

Who knows, it would seem like an odd switch due to immigration but could have happened.

I don’t think the debate paid too big of a role but who knows.

I think that a lot of Rubio supporters might have come from Carson as well.

Redstone on February 2, 2016 at 8:34 PM

Exit question: When does Jeb get out? He’s not going to push on to Florida, peeling crucial center-right votes away from Rubio in South Carolina and the SEC states without any hope of winning, is he?

One can hope.

Go Yeb!

hillbillyjim on February 2, 2016 at 8:38 PM

This site has turned more into the RINO News Network than in the past elections. I didn’t think it possible.

Mr. Arrogant on February 2, 2016 at 8:39 PM

Jeb 2016 is … quite sad.

Think of all that wasted money.

Aizen on February 2, 2016 at 8:42 PM

More Rubio. Blech, blech, blech!!!

lineholder on February 2, 2016 at 8:42 PM

Redstone on February 2, 2016 at 8:34 PM

Yeah, hard to know. Seems like if Trump supporters were offended by him now showing and bought into Trump’s attacks on Cruz, maybe they would go for Rubio.

But I suspect most Trump supporters liked the fact he didn’t show. Rubio’s gains may just be old establishment types whom Yeb’s folks were counting on (the old Bush infrastructure) and realized a vote for Yeb was wasted …

ShainS on February 2, 2016 at 8:45 PM

Even though I think Jeb would be a good president, I can never stop marveling at just how bad he is at this game.

The so, so many stories about the wrong Bush being nominated in 2000…if only it had been Jeb…yada, yada, yada…and the guy can’t string six words together, displays poor political judgment, and just generally stinks up the joint. Incredible.

bobs1196 on February 2, 2016 at 8:46 PM

I would like to thank Jazz Shaw for doing a Cruz post at 8 am this morning.

Amadeus on February 2, 2016 at 8:10 PM

laughed out loud :)

Axe on February 2, 2016 at 8:51 PM

after receiving contributions from 9,400 donors in the first half of 2015, Right to Rise received donations from … 155 in the second half.

Damn but that is a YUGE decline!

Anyone know if donations to Super PACS are tax deductable like gambling losses?

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 8:52 PM

Donald and Ted will not be pleased if Jeb bows out; they need him to stick around, at least until FL votes. At the next debate, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Trump praise Jeb and aim his fatuous barbs at Rubio.

Dan333 on February 2, 2016 at 8:53 PM

Even though I think Jeb would be a good president, I can never stop marveling at just how bad he is at this game.

The so, so many stories about the wrong Bush being nominated in 2000…if only it had been Jeb…yada, yada, yada…and the guy can’t string six words together, displays poor political judgment, and just generally stinks up the joint. Incredible.

bobs1196 on February 2, 2016 at 8:46 PM

NOT a Jeb! fan, but I do think he is a decent man and politics in 2016 America is NO place for a decent man.

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 8:54 PM

¡El Yeb!…
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… like ¡El Yeb!, I got nothin’… thanks.
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sorry…

ExpressoBold on February 2, 2016 at 8:58 PM

Face it Jeb, to them, you are like the old wife and Rubilita is like the young mistress. Kind of like you are Hillary and Rubilita is Monica.

VorDaj on February 2, 2016 at 8:59 PM

Do you think Trump skipping the debate helped Rubio? I have no idea, but heard someone today speculating that Rubio may have benefited the most from acquiring disaffected Trump supporters …

ShainS on February 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM

Yes. Rubio put in a strong debate performance (watched by 6 x as many viewers as watched the Trump rally) while Trump acted like a petulant whiny extortionist. I don’t know if just skipping the debate would have dropped him, but whining that he wouldn’t participate if Kelly moderated because she was too mean, then stating he never said that, then demanding $5,000,000 from Fox for his foundation to show for the debate probably left a really negative impression with a lot of voters right before the caucus. My recollection was quite a few voters decided in the last few days and lot of those voters went for Rubio.

talkingpoints on February 2, 2016 at 9:00 PM

Looking at the Drudge headlines, I’m wondering if the defeat tipped him over the edge. Does he think that kind of language in public is presidential?

butch on February 2, 2016 at 9:01 PM

Anyone tell Jeb yet his team can find cheap rooms at the Taj Mahal in Atlantic City?

Limerick on February 2, 2016 at 9:02 PM

Maybe Jeb could save some of that war chest. Son, Peter, appears to be picking out a batting helmet and looking through the bat rack for just the right one. I’m guessing 8-12 years, maybe?

butch on February 2, 2016 at 9:06 PM

Face it Jeb, to them, you are like the old wife and Rubilita is like the young mistress. Kind of like you are Hillary and Rubilita is Monica.

VorDaj on February 2, 2016 at 8:59 PM

Damn but that is harsh! And true!

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 9:09 PM

I remember the SNL skit in ’08 where Hillary says “It was always our plan to lose Virginia.”

I can imagine the same now for Jeb! about Iowa.

Galtian on February 2, 2016 at 9:23 PM

On the betting site PredictWise, Rubio went from a 33 percent chance of winning the nomination last night to 54 percent after Trump’s defeat was secure.

Up to 56% now:

Marco Rubio 56 %
Donald Trump 25 %
Ted Cruz 14 %
Jeb Bush 3 %
Chris Christie 1 %
John Kasich 1 %

At that rate of gaining 2% a day, come election time, he’ll be at about 600%. That ought to do it.

LashRambo on February 2, 2016 at 9:25 PM

Looking at the Drudge headlines, I’m wondering if the defeat tipped him over the edge. Does he think that kind of language in public is presidential?

butch on February 2, 2016 at 9:01 PM

AFAIK, Trump talks that way, and says “s***” frequently in public. It’s been about 3 months since HotAir dropped “shit” from its filter. Now you can type it to your heart’s content. I wonder what the thinking was behind that.

LashRambo on February 2, 2016 at 9:29 PM

Looking at the Drudge headlines, I’m wondering if the defeat tipped him over the edge. Does he think that kind of language in public is presidential?

butch on February 2, 2016 at 9:01 PM

Sweetie – not sure about you, but everyone I know (except 1) talks like that.

And that – sweetie – is why Trump resonates with the Common Man

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 9:40 PM

For the record, if its Cruz or Rubio, I stay home. Never thought I would say that. Also FOX News has jumped the shark. Seeing Rich Lowery on there this morning was the tipping point for me. I am going to watch CNN and MSNBC. At least I know there agenda. I hate Orielly, MK and Hannity. I am truly pissed.

UncleZeb on February 2, 2016 at 9:51 PM

UncleZeb on February 2, 2016 at 9:51 PM

Hear ya on Fox. CNN was surprisingly “newsy” last night!

But still like Tucker Carlson at Fox as definitely opinionated and can see on air when it gets him trouble and he walks back statements after commercial breaks!

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 9:56 PM

So far, I’m pretty happy with how Iowa turned out. Cruz won by a decent margin and with astoundingly high turnout. Rubio had a good showing, and everybody below 4th won so few votes that they should be thinking about following Huckabee out the door. I’d have preferred to see Fiorina come in at least 4th, but alas she just didn’t catch on.

Trump lives to campaign another day, but he will not be swamping everyone and steamrolling to the nomination. Hillary barely “won”, and the circumstances seem a little murky.

I realize a lot of people here can’t stand Rubio, and that many Trump supporters have hard feelings towards Cruz. That’s unfortunate. However, let’s keep in mind that Bush is not going to be the nominee. Many other candidates that were were also less than ideal…cough, Kasich, cough… are also on life support.

Not a bad night!

Jill1066 on February 2, 2016 at 10:01 PM

ONLY TRUMP GETS MY VOTE. NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ANOTHER BACKSTABBING PRETEND CONSERVATIVE.

UncleZeb on February 2, 2016 at 10:05 PM

I realize a lot of people here can’t stand Rubio, and that many Trump supporters have hard feelings towards Cruz. That’s unfortunate. However, let’s keep in mind that Bush is not going to be the nominee.

I’m trying to figure out how Rubio is better than Bush. Jeb didn’t ride to DC on a Tea Party wave promising to fight back amnesty only to stab his supporters in the back on the very same issue. Jeb ran a big swing state–one of the largest global economies–effectively and conservatively, for eight years. Rubio is a lame, absentee junior senator who decided he’d rather be in the White House after a quarter of a term. Why on earth would he make a better president than Jeb?

MidAtlantic Moderate on February 2, 2016 at 10:23 PM

I’m trying to figure out how Rubio is better than Bush. Jeb didn’t ride to DC on a Tea Party wave promising to fight back amnesty only to stab his supporters in the back on the very same issue.

MidAtlantic Moderate on February 2, 2016 at 10:23 PM

If amnesty is your biggest issue, then I don’t understand why you are even considering Jeb. He’s been sympathetic to amnesty for years. http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jul/13/opinion/oe-bush13

Congress and the Obama administration should move ahead on three fronts: reform the legal immigration system so that it responds more adroitly to labor market needs and enhances U.S. competitiveness; restore the integrity of immigration laws through more effective enforcement, especially at the workplace; and offer a fair and orderly way to allow many of those currently living here illegally to earn the right to remain legally.

–Jeb Bush, 2009. (Emphasis added.)

The way I look at this is someone who comes to our country because they couldn’t come legally, they come to our country because their families — the dad who loved their children — was worried that their children didn’t have food on the table. And they wanted to make sure their family was intact, and they crossed the border because they had no other means to work to be able to provide for their family. Yes, they broke the law, but it’s not a felony. It’s an act of love.

— Jeb Bush, 2014. (Emphasis added.)

J.S.K. on February 2, 2016 at 10:34 PM

My theory is that Bush sees Trump as a blowhard squire, a fellow rich guy who won’t win, and Rubio as a peasant who betrayed him. Ergo, Rubio = personal target.

S. D. on February 2, 2016 at 10:34 PM

ONLY TRUMP GETS MY VOTE. NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ANOTHER BACKSTABBING PRETEND CONSERVATIVE.

UncleZeb on February 2, 2016 at 10:05 PM

I’m thinking it’s a wash. Trump is polarizing enough that he runs off as many as he brings. It worried me in 2012 when people said that, but not this time. I’ve had totally unpolitical people out of the blue tell me they will not vote if Trump wins the nomination.

I’ve never seen that kind of hate toward any candidate, not even Obama.

I’m voting against Hillary if Trump wins the nomination. But it doesn’t worry me one bit if you say what you said.

petunia on February 2, 2016 at 10:35 PM

I’m trying to figure out how Rubio is better than Bush. Jeb didn’t ride to DC on a Tea Party wave promising to fight back amnesty only to stab his supporters in the back on the very same issue. Jeb ran a big swing state–one of the largest global economies–effectively and conservatively, for eight years. Rubio is a lame, absentee junior senator who decided he’d rather be in the White House after a quarter of a term. Why on earth would he make a better president than Jeb?

MidAtlantic Moderate on February 2, 2016 at 10:23 PM

I feel personally insulted that Jeb is even running. We do not have a monarchy in this country. Jeb should back others if he wants to have a part, but his family had their chance. And it was mixed at best. I feel no loyalty to the American Royalty and I am in fact insulted by the very idea.

And besides that… have you heard Jeb try to communicate? He stutters. Maybe his supporters are used to it, but Jeb can’t say complete sentences. And he looks like an idiot. I can’t believe people thought the wrong Bush ran in 2000, Jeb is awful. Without his family he wouldn’t have been governor of anything. He is all nepotism, and no substance.

And Marco is a rare political talent. He is fake of course, they all are, but he does it with style. Much more charm and style than Cruz or Trump… just a very good communicator. And what a great back story, and family… Rubio is the whole package.

petunia on February 2, 2016 at 10:45 PM

Rubio picks El Jeb for veep, ala Dog Eater pulling Biden back in to shore up his inexperience wall.

Bonus: They both speak Spanish and will be able to greet our 20 million new citizens in their native language when they arrive in 2017.

Bishop on February 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM

terry and petunia, sheryl and Meredith witll be the greeting party, traitors, one and all.

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2016 at 10:48 PM

Wait until the GOPe destroys Cruz and the Cruzers begin to beg “please get on the Rubio train. That will be the ultimate at HA. Roadmap.

But, don’t bank on getting man on board. Mississippi was the last fooling. You’ll see it a few more times. You are on your own. Meredith and Adjoran are attuned to it already. The rest of you need to adjust.

Never seen such bitter winners, not even as obamabots.

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2016 at 10:56 PM

Wait until the GOPe destroys Cruz and the Cruzers begin to beg “please get on the Rubio train. That will be the ultimate at HA. Roadmap.

But, don’t bank on getting man on board. Mississippi was the last fooling. You’ll see it a few more times. You are on your own. Meredith and Adjoran are attuned to it already. The rest of you need to adjust.

Never seen such bitter winners, not even as obamabots.

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2016 at 10:56 PM

Personally – will vote for Sanders or Hillary over Rubio any day of the week and twice (three times?) on a Tuesday.

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 11:13 PM

Will somebody please take Jeb’s campaign and:

Drive a wooden stake through it’s heart;
Shoot it with silver bullets;
Soak it in holy water; and
Bury it in a pit filled with garlic and wolfbane!

DaveK on February 2, 2016 at 11:14 PM

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2016 at 10:56 PM
Personally – will vote for Sanders or Hillary over Rubio any day of the week and twice (three times?) on a Tuesday.

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 11:13 PM

“It does not matter if three-fourths of the human race perished, the important thing is that the remaining one-fourth be Communist.” – Lenin

Birds of a feather flock together… you Hillary and Bernie will march us into the gas chambers with a smile.

petunia on February 2, 2016 at 11:42 PM

petunia on February 2, 2016 at 11:42 PM

I think you misunderstand me, my dear!

I’m for Trump or Cruz as they are the only ones remotely capable of upsetting current apple cart. Otherwise no difference between a GOPe candidate and a DNC candidate. And personally would prefer the inevitable collapse to occur now as opposed to later. But that’s just me …

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 11:51 PM

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 11:51 PM

You said you will vote for the Socialist. And words mean something. Either you support his policies or you will sell out your principles for revenge and the country be da))ed.

Your thinking is how we got in this mess in the first place.

And how the Socialists win, and how the death camps start for those of us who still believe in freedom.

petunia on February 3, 2016 at 1:05 AM

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 11:51 PM

You said you will vote for the Socialist. And words mean something. Either you support his policies or you will sell out your principles for revenge and the country be da))ed.

Your thinking is how we got in this mess in the first place.

And how the Socialists win, and how the death camps start for those of us who still believe in freedom.

petunia on February 3, 2016 at 1:05 AM

Yes. Words having meaning.

I have always voted my conscious, which historically was the most conservative candidate available, even if I had to hold my nose on several occasions.

And where have all THEIR words gotten the collective us? Just done. We either collapse slowly with the GOPe or quickly with the Dems. I’m voting for quickly this time.

smokeyblonde on February 3, 2016 at 7:52 AM

So much for winning the nomination without all of those icky conservatives, eh Jeb?

jnelchef on February 3, 2016 at 8:42 AM

Rubio is not my preference; he was probably fifth on my list.
I will absolutely vote for him if he is the nominee.
Would that the Bush, Rubio –and yes, Trump and Cruz supporters, of which I am one—would say the same as a group.

Can we PLEASE get past the mentality that “if my guy doesn’t win, I’m staying home on Election Day”? I remind those principled pouters who did so of the result: Obama Term II.

orangemtl on February 3, 2016 at 8:48 AM

I don’t want to vote for any of them. They all suck Dick Cheney.

However, if the nominee is Trump or Cruz, I’ll hold my nose and do so.

If it’s Rubio, Hitlery, or !BOINY!, I’m calling the Korean Embassy and requesting political asylum as a tortured minority refugee.

UODuckMan on February 3, 2016 at 8:57 AM

I hope Jeb has a bit of a surge… let’s see Team Establishment find themselves in the same predicament Conservatives have found themselves in previous elections.

Ukiah on February 3, 2016 at 1:36 PM

So much for winning the nomination without all of those icky conservatives, eh Jeb?

jnelchef on February 3, 2016 at 8:42 AM

JEB: You can always run for president of Colombia or Mexico…

…but you have rejected all of your potential supporters in the USA, and they have reciprocated in kind!!!

Here’s your new logo.

landlines on February 3, 2016 at 3:39 PM

how many illegals does $10 million “buy” these days…

Pelosi Schmelosi on February 2, 2016 at 8:13 PM

Jeb voters go for $3000 a head, and he needs about 10 times as many votes as he got in IA, …so Jeb needs as many voting illegals (qualified or not) as he can buy for $300 a head or less!!

landlines on February 3, 2016 at 3:50 PM

Redstone on February 2, 2016 at 8:05 PM

Agreed! I was on the fence about Marco, with Cruz being my other choice, until I saw those vicious Right to Rise ads. Then I joined the Anybody But Bush camp and opted for Rubio. As a result of those ads, I would support Trump before I would even consider supporting Jeb Bush.

ricoliv on February 3, 2016 at 6:21 PM