Open thread/live blog: Iowageddon; Update: O’Malley out? Update: Fox calls it for Cruz; Update: CNN too, Huckabee suspends campaign

posted at 8:01 pm on February 1, 2016 by Ed Morrissey

11:43 – Cruz is still talking. Started off strong, but it’s going very long now. Even his supporters seem to have lost some of their initial energy.

11:20 – Cruz declares a “victory for the grassroots … for courageous conservatives.” He also swipes at the national media, saying Iowa has declared that the nomination will not be chosen by the media, the establishment, or the lobbyists. Emotional speech, with a rough edge in his voice from campaigning on the ground over the last several weeks and months.

11:12 – CNN reports that 187,000 turned out for the GOP tonight — a new record — but that didn’t translate into a groundswell for Trump.

10:53 – Trump gave a remarkably short but still gracious speech. Professed his love for Iowa, jokingly suggests he might buy a farm there. Remake of Green Acres?

10:47 – Rubio’s speech clearly aimed at reuniting the GOP, but it’s a little early for that. He made a couple of references to faith, thanked Huckabee, and congratulated Cruz. Didn’t have much to say to Trump, however.

10:37 – An ebullient Marco Rubio offers up a big “I told you so” to nay-sayers. He’s still technically within reach of a second-place finish. He’s fired up and so are his supporters, and he’s claiming momentum rolling into New Hampshire.

10:30: Huckabee suspends his campaign.

10:27: CNN calls it for Cruz, too.

10:25: Fox calls it for Cruz, and predicts Trump will hold off Rubio to finish in second place. No call from CNN yet.

10:21: With 99% of the precincts counted, it’s pretty clear that Ted Cruz is cruising to a win. However, there are more votes – 99% reflects the percentage of the expected vote, and the turnout was huge tonight. Rubio’s within a percentage point of Trump, just barely out of second place.

9:57: CNN reporting that Martin O’Malley will suspend his campaign in the next 40 minutes. Will anyone notice?

9:42: 50% of the precincts reporting, it’s now 29-25-21, Cruz-Trump-Rubio. If Trump loses to Cruz, it will call into question his choice to skip the debate. But it will still show that Trump’s celebrity/earned-media strategy is working more than people thought it would.

9:37: With about 43% of the vote in for the GOP, the top three candidates are all in the 20s now. Carson’s out of double digits. The Democratic race is now 51/49 Hillary, but Sanders has picked up a little momentum in the past few minutes. Interesting — especially if Cruz ends up with the W.

9:22: With 25% of the vote it, CNN has it Cruz at 30%, Trump 27%, and Rubio 19%. Carson still hanging in double digits at 10%. The medalists are pretty clear, as we expected.

Update, 9:08 ET: Lots of commentary, not so much solid numbers yet. However, looking beyond IA, Rubio will get Tim Scott’s endorsement in South Carolina. Interesting. Meanwhile, CNN’s entrance poll shows that evangelicals in Iowa split nearly evenly between Rubio, Trump, and Cruz. However, Cruz at this point leads the actual count that has come it, with about 14% of the precincts reporting.

Original post follows …

For the first time in the 2016 cycle, voters get to participate in a poll that really counts. At least, they will in this cycle for Republicans, after the RNC stepped in to end a ridiculous charade that ended up embarrassing the party in 2012. Prior to this, the Iowa caucus did not bind delegates to any presidential candidate; those got chosen at Iowa’s state conventions later, usually held in June, long after the primary races have been decided. Rick Santorum narrowly won the GOP’s caucuses in 2012, but 22 of the state’s 28 delegates went to Ron Paul after his followers succeeded in seizing control of the state convention. The RNC passed a new rule that Iowa must now cast its 30 delegates in proportion to the outcome of the caucuses on the first ballot, at least among those candidates remaining in the race.  Had they not agreed to that first-ballot commitment, the RNC would have withdrawn its recognition of the event.

For Democrats, who have 44 delegates at stake, the split is a little more complex:

Iowa Democrats award delegates proportionally, based on the statewide vote as well as the vote in individual congressional districts.

Candidates must get at least 15 percent of the statewide vote to win any statewide delegates. They must win at least 15 percent of the vote in individual congressional districts to win the delegates allocated to those districts.

The threshold could be a problem for former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, who is polling below 15 percent in pre-election polls in Iowa.

In a tight contest, it is possible for two candidates to split the delegates evenly.

Republicans will hold only one round of voting and use that count for the overall delegate assignment. Democrats in some caucuses will have to hold two or more rounds after eliminating O’Malley, so it may take a little more time to know who won.

Allahpundit gave his prediction earlier today: Trump 30, Cruz 28, Rubio 17. I’m loathe to predict either order or percentages, but those three clearly will be the medalists, and between them should take up about two-thirds of the vote. Who drops out after this? Not Jeb Bush, who has money and New Hampshire to fight yet, and probably not John Kasich or Chris Christie either, neither of whom put much effort into Iowa anyway. Absent a huge surprise, we can expect to say bye-bye to Santorum, Huckabee, Fiorina, Rand Paul (who needs to start working on his Senate campaign), and possibly Ben Carson too, whose campaign is falling apart. Jim Gilmore would say goodbye if he ever really said hello in the first place.

Still, Donald Trump told ABC News this morning that he’s a bit nervous:

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump admitted this morning he’s nervous heading into tonight’s Iowa caucuses.

“You have to be a little bit nervous but you have to want to win,” Trump said in a phone interview on “Good Morning America.”

“I just hope everybody is going to be able to get out and vote.”

Even if his top-level, celebrity-driven campaign model fails to turn out the vote, Trump has time to correct for it in subsequent states. He has a big polling advantage in South Carolina, and can start doing some hiring if needed. His funds are practically unlimited, an advantage that he still hasn’t had to play as yet in this race against the other Republican candidates. It’s inconceivable that he’d finish lower than third, and almost inconceivable that he’d drop below second. The top three in Iowa basically all have bragging rights, and Trump’s no different in that respect.

What about the Democratic caucuses? I’d bet on Bernie Sanders taking an edge over Hillary Clinton, but the Democrats’ superdelegate structure might push the count narrowly back in Hillary’s favor. Anything less than a blowout for Hillary will look like a loss, though, especially since she’s about to lose New Hampshire in a very, very big way. And here’s another thing to watch — the total turnout for both parties. Iowa is a swing state, and if the GOP has a significantly better night than Democrats in a caucus where both nominations are up for grabs, then Debbie Wasserman Schultz will have her work cut out for her in November. If it goes the other way around, the same can be said for Reince Priebus.

Townhall will have the primary results here. We’ll offer some updates as the night wears on, but the GOP results shouldn’t take long to come in — they’re expecting to know them by 8:30 pm CT or so, possibly earlier. Stay tuned.

Update: “This is very unusual, to announce that you’re going home to rest for a few days…”

Update: The Carson campaign is saying this isn’t a change, and that Carson always planned for resting a couple of days after Iowa. Well, perhaps, but that’s a curious strategy for a primary coming up in eight days.

 


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novaculus on February 2, 2016 at 4:17 AM

I’m very glad your back is improving, Nova. I’ll bet Arthur is, too.

Is this related to that old skiing injury?

thatsafactjack on February 2, 2016 at 4:18 AM

1 down 49 to go
Go Cruz!

So sorry I missed the festivities last night

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 4:18 AM

tafj (switched to ipad),

Rain in SoCal makes me think of The Doors – Riders On The Storm. Been praying He sends y’all a lot of rain a little at a time and wonder when Oregon will propose a giant infrastructure project to bring excess Pac NW to my thirsty neighbors.

Christien on February 2, 2016 at 4:21 AM

cmsinaz,

I still say cull before October. I’ve seen this movie before.

Christien on February 2, 2016 at 4:25 AM

Christien on February 2, 2016 at 4:21 AM

I understand the feeling of “Riders” when it rains in SoCal. Especially when the lightning was showcased against the mountains at night. I loved a good thunderstorm. It left everything fresh and clean.

Here in Oklahoma we often get intense thunderstorms with the rain.

It’s nice to have a little rain without the thunder and lightning.

It’s very relaxing.

thatsafactjack on February 2, 2016 at 4:29 AM

The Doors – “Five to One”

Anti-ControI on February 2, 2016 at 4:29 AM

Is this related to that old skiing injury?

thatsafactjack on February 2, 2016 at 4:18 AM

This last time was different. I had a problem right before New Year’s that I think was related to the old injury, but I pretty much recovered from that when something else flared up. It’s what we used to call a “cold in the back”. Over the course of the first day my lower back just gradually stiffened up and by the second day I was having serious spasms when I tried to move. That was back on the ninth of January and I’m finally more stiff than hurting these last few days.

novaculus on February 2, 2016 at 4:32 AM

Christien
I hear ya….1 vote at a time

Onto NH

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 4:36 AM

novaculus on February 2, 2016 at 4:32 AM

I’m certainly glad it’s improving, Nova. I’ve had those spasms, too, from an old injury, but they didn’t last as long as this bout you’ve endured. I hope they’re gone for good. You deserve a break. You’ve had a rough year with the leg injury, too.

thatsafactjack on February 2, 2016 at 4:37 AM

NWC,

There’s a lot of that goin’ ’round of late.

Christien on February 2, 2016 at 4:15 AM

Lol. Yep.

Fox News apparently thinks that Rubio won Iowa, and now we get to have Cruz continuing to nip at Trump’s heels while Rubio cleans it up, just like McCain.

NWConservative on February 2, 2016 at 4:37 AM

Goodnight, you guys.

thatsafactjack on February 2, 2016 at 4:40 AM

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Some even tried to prevent Carson representatives from speaking. “Ted Cruz is a snake,” one said. “I always knew it.”

Aman Batheja retweeted
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Multiple people here who spoke for Carson at caucuses say Cruz surrogates came prepared to speak about Carson “dropping out”

Ted Cruz sent out a message to his teams in Iowa to shut down the Carson people and tell everyone that Carson dropping out. I can’t believe this sh!t is allowed to go on.

NWConservative on February 2, 2016 at 4:40 AM

The Misunderstood – “Find the Hidden Door”

Anti-ControI on February 2, 2016 at 4:42 AM

thatsafactjack on February 2, 2016 at 4:37 AM

Certainly hasn’t improved my attitude any, and I had a bad attitude to begin with. I’d really like to be mobile and more or less without pain for a while. I’m going to be very careful with the back going forward. I want to put this last bout behind me and get ready for Spring. I’ve got a lot of work to do, and ice-out fishing is only a month away. I need to be able to stay on my feet for the better part of the day If I’m going to get things done and put some fish in the freezer.

novaculus on February 2, 2016 at 4:44 AM

Bye tafj

Christien on February 2, 2016 at 4:45 AM

G’night, Jackie

novaculus on February 2, 2016 at 4:46 AM

Serious question
Does Trump keep Sarah on to rally for him in the south?

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 4:49 AM

nova,

Biofeeze roll-on works. Suck it in, keep good posture, cushion behind back when sitting, ibuprofen, self massage, and brace when needed. Stretching. I totally relate. Feel better soon.

Christien on February 2, 2016 at 4:51 AM

2nd Christien treatment process

Get well

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 4:56 AM

NWConservative,

If true, that’s scummy. Wouldn’t be surprised. I find the way Cruz speaks very patronizing. I’m not in Congress or on a jury or at a seminar. That’s his style, I suppose.

Christien on February 2, 2016 at 4:57 AM

Good morning everybody.

Racistanyway on February 2, 2016 at 5:01 AM

Hillary Clinton:

If I go down…

novaculus on February 2, 2016 at 5:01 AM

Christien on February 2, 2016 at 4:51 AM

Thanks for the advice. I’ll try the Biofreeeze. Someone her recommended Aspercreme and it did help. I’m doing a lot of the things you mention, and I’ve been applying heat regularly. I also changed the padding on the chair I sit in at the computer (by eliminating it), just to change my sitting position and back alignment. Seems to have helped.

novaculus on February 2, 2016 at 5:17 AM

novaculus,

Note: biofreeze is menthol, so do not use heat on the area for an hour or two after applying. I find sucking in my belly a bit and good posture really helps me a lot. And when you get ahead of the pain, stay on your feet and move around.

Christien on February 2, 2016 at 5:25 AM

Hillary Clinton Has The Most Statistically Improbable Coin-Toss Luck Ever

But the probably of winning every flip out of six flips is one in 64, or 1.56 percent . . .

Clinton’s final delegate count was 699.57, according to the Iowa Democratic Party. Sanders’ was 695.49.

If Sanders had won half of the coin tosses and split the six delegates three and three with Clinton, he would have finished at 698.49 delegates to Clinton’s 696.57.

Axe on February 2, 2016 at 5:44 AM

Serious question
Does Trump keep Sarah on to rally for him in the south?

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 4:49 AM

yep.

do you think cruz will take beck?

renalin on February 2, 2016 at 6:07 AM

Hillary Clinton Has The Most Statistically Improbable Coin-Toss Luck Ever

But the probably of winning every flip out of six flips is one in 64, or 1.56 percent . . .

Clinton’s final delegate count was 699.57, according to the Iowa Democratic Party. Sanders’ was 695.49.

If Sanders had won half of the coin tosses and split the six delegates three and three with Clinton, he would have finished at 698.49 delegates to Clinton’s 696.57.

Axe on February 2, 2016 at 5:44 AM

And 90 D precinct votes are “missing” per Drudge.

Looks like Hillary and her supporters have a lot in common with regards to criminal behavior and contempt for the law.

talkingpoints on February 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM

renalin on February 2, 2016 at 6:07 AM

hmmmm
perhaps, but I don’t see it….

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM

CNN headline:

Cruz wins, Clinton declares victory.

Those 90 missing precincts. Would they be Bernie leaning, perchance?

talkingpoints on February 2, 2016 at 6:19 AM

so all these new voters went to roobio?

something stinks.

Onward to NH.

renalin on February 2, 2016 at 6:26 AM

And 90 D precinct votes are “missing” per Drudge.

Looks like Hillary and her supporters have a lot in common with regards to criminal behavior and contempt for the law.

talkingpoints on February 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM

I wonder if there will be anything on it. I’d normally say no and assume it’s swept away by lunch, but half the D caucus attendees is a lot of feeling-ripped-off people.

Axe on February 2, 2016 at 6:28 AM

Those 90 missing precincts. Would they be Bernie leaning, perchance?

talkingpoints on February 2, 2016 at 6:19 AM

talkingpoints: Could be,…get the popcorn:)


2016 US elections
51s
Bernie Sanders says he will be in contact with the party about outstanding votes and delegates in Iowa – CNN
End of alert
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/2016-us-elections/

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 6:33 AM

so all these new voters went to roobio?

something stinks.

Onward to NH.

renalin on February 2, 2016 at 6:26 AM

Cruz turnout highest in history, Trump second highest.

Axe on February 2, 2016 at 6:33 AM

buh bye huckie
more to leave after NH?

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 6:34 AM

“Cruz won 34 percent of evangelicals, while Trump won 22 percent and Rubio won 21 percent. Among the 36 percent of caucusgoers who aren’t evangelicals, Trump took 29 percent, Rubio took 26 percent, and Cruz took 18 percent.”

From The Weekly Standard

The question for me is, will Cruz do as well in states with less influence by evangelicals? In my opinion, Cruz has electability issues among the general public.

bobthm3 on February 2, 2016 at 6:47 AM

The 90 Missing D Precints:
—————————

They had no shows for temporary precent chairs MIA??

Sanders Campaign: Party Lost 5 Percent of Iowa Vote

By Jason Dick Posted at 1:29 a.m. today
(Video)
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DES MOINES, Iowa — The Iowa Democratic Party informed the campaigns of Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernard Sanders late Monday night that it has no results for 90 precincts across the state, which could account for as much as 5 percent of the total vote. And the party has asked the campaigns for help in getting a tally for those missing results.

“We are, right now, calling all our precinct captains on precincts where we have knowledge of what’s missing, to report what we think happened there,” a visibly irate Robert Becker, Sanders’ state director told Roll Call after Sanders’ speech at the Holiday Inn near the Des Moines airport.
(More……….)
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http://atr.rollcall.com/sanders-campaign-party-lost-5-percent-of-iowa-vote/

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 6:48 AM

Bob, if he focuses on policies I think so….

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 6:54 AM

https://twitter.com/thehill

The Hill [email protected] 21m21 minutes ago

Iowa Dems push back against Sanders claim of missing votes: http://hill.cm/CG150oZ #IowaCaucus
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Democrats missing 1 precinct, with Clinton as victor
Kevin Hardy, Tony Leys 3:07 a.m. CST
February 2, 2016
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Iowa Democratic Party officials worked into the early morning Tuesday trying to account for caucus results from a handful of tardy precincts in the extremely close presidential caucus race between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

By 2:30 a.m., the party announced that it had results from 1,682 of 1,683 precincts, and that Clinton had eked out a slim victory.

(More….)
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http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/some-democratic-precinct-results-unaccounted/79682184/

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 6:59 AM

https://twitter.com/thehill

The Hill [email protected] 14m14 minutes ago

Ben Carson taking a campaign break after #IowaCaucus to get “fresh clothes” http://hill.cm/tTk9T7G

canopfor on February 2, 2016 at 7:01 AM

Ted Cruz sent out a message to his teams in Iowa to shut down the Carson people and tell everyone that Carson dropping out. I can’t believe this sh!t is allowed to go on.

NWConservative on February 2, 2016 at 4:40 AM

That’s was is so silly about Iowa. We have no clue about what Iowa republicans wanted, just what caucus goers voted.

forgot to bid on February 2, 2016 at 7:48 AM

72% of Iowa caucus voters rejected Ted Cruz.

Using Eric Ericson’s logic he keeps repeating about Trump.

forgot to bid on February 2, 2016 at 7:52 AM

Rubio is back in the hunt. All of the establishment support can now coalesce around his campaign. Cruz did well to win IA but I think it was a pyrrhic victory.

tRump left the door open and now the 2 person race, surprisingly to me, looks like tRump vs Marco.

MJBrutus on February 2, 2016 at 7:57 AM

Rubio is back in the hunt. All of the establishment support can now coalesce around his campaign. Cruz did well to win IA but I think it was a pyrrhic victory.

tRump left the door open and now the 2 person race, surprisingly to me, looks like tRump vs Marco.

MJBrutus on February 2, 2016 at 7:57 AM

Hood observation.

Trump may have miscalculated, coming down so hard on Cruz.

If Rubio starts to surge and trump has to debate policy issues against Rubio, he’s going to have trouble.

If anything Rubio is good at, it’s spurting out paragraph after paragraphs of stats and talking points.

Whether you agree with anything Rubio says, in my opinion he can talk anyone into a corner.

That’s going to be hard for Trump to overcome.

Walter L. Newton on February 2, 2016 at 8:03 AM

Hood = Good

Walter L. Newton on February 2, 2016 at 8:04 AM

Iowa Democratic Party officials worked into the early morning Tuesday trying to account for caucus results from a handful of tardy precincts in the extremely close presidential caucus race between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.

By 2:30 a.m., the party announced that it had results from 1,682 of 1,683 precincts, and that Clinton had eked out a slim victory.

Those dang intransigent voters, not willing to submit to The Party in a timely manner …

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 8:08 AM

Those dang intransigent voters, not willing to submit to The Party in a timely manner …

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 8:08 AM

Good morning, smokey! “javohl, mien furher” not in Americans vocabulary. At least it didn’t used to be…

Who is John Galt on February 2, 2016 at 8:18 AM

The funny thing is, if you are a Cruz fan today you are joined in excitement with Megyn Kelly, Erick Erickson, National Review and Glenn Beck and your name go up on a wall next to Santorum, Huckabee, Steve Forbes, etc and you run from any discussion about NH.

forgot to bid on February 2, 2016 at 8:19 AM

Those dang intransigent voters, not willing to submit to The Party in a timely manner …

smokeyblonde on February 2, 2016 at 8:08 AM

More SQL and VBA today, eh?

Who is John Galt on February 2, 2016 at 8:20 AM

I still can never forgive or forget Marco Rubio standing there with Chuck Schumer talking about “bringing them out of the shadows” and “getting them paying taxes doing American jobs that Americans won’t do for $6/hr” Who could forget that?

Also, it was pretty sad for Rubio to blow town and not vote on that huge stimulus bill the republicans gave to democrats so he could go ask me for my vote. Rubio is out of it in my mind.

Dollayo on February 2, 2016 at 8:21 AM

Ted Cruz sent out a message to his teams in Iowa to shut down the Carson people and tell everyone that Carson dropping out. I can’t believe this sh!t is allowed to go on.

NWConservative on February 2, 2016 at 4:40 AM

Alternate headline: Ben Carson sent out a message to the world that he’s already given up when he pulled a McCain and decided to stop campaigning in the middle of the campaign.

It makes sense that Cruz goes after Carson’s supporters if he intends to try to win the nomination. Fat lot of good it will likely do him, but he has to fight or he has no chance.

Don’t feel sorry for Carson. He had his moment, and he wasn’t up to it. Same as Fiorina. The electorate gave them a hearing, showed them love, and they both fell short of their promise due to fatal flaws in their preparedness. This is what the primary is for. Obviously Carson knows he’s finished. He’s a gentle person and letting his campaign staff down gently.

You’re a Trump guy NWC. I’m sure that the remnant of Carson supporters here appreciate your concern for them.

Immolate on February 2, 2016 at 8:25 AM

Forgot
I’m rooting for Cruz but I think trump will win NH

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 8:28 AM

he funny thing is, if you are a Cruz fan today you are joined in excitement with Megyn Kelly, Erick Erickson, National Review and Glenn Beck and your name go up on a wall next to Santorum, Huckabee, Steve Forbes, etc and you run from any discussion about NH.

forgot to bid on February 2, 2016 at 8:19 AM

I’m a Cruz supporter today and I’m not joined with any of those people. I’ve been talking about NH and SC all night while you were sleeping. And now you barge in and say a bunch of things that you want to be true although they’re obviously a figment of your imagination and assume that your belligerence will make up for your poor analytical skills. Your name’s not going up anywhere except on my list of people to roll my eyes at.

Immolate on February 2, 2016 at 8:31 AM

Delegate Count
Cruz 8
Trump 7
Rubio 7
Carson 3
Paul 1
Bush 1
everyone else 0

Dollayo on February 2, 2016 at 8:36 AM

…where were Donald’s 2 Corinthians?

JugEarsButtHurt on February 2, 2016 at 9:09 AM

…where were Donald’s 2 Corinthians?

JugEarsButtHurt on February 2, 2016 at 9:09 AM

2 bad…

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 9:11 AM

Ted Cruz sent out a message to his teams in Iowa to shut down the Carson people and tell everyone that Carson dropping out. I can’t believe this sh!t is allowed to go on.

NWConservative on February 2, 2016 at 4:40 AM

Really, do you have proof or is this more whining from a loser…

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 9:12 AM

Serious question
Does Trump keep Sarah on to rally for him in the south?

cmsinaz on February 2, 2016 at 4:49 AM

No, he will phase her out…she hurt him.

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 9:15 AM

Really, do you have proof or is this more whining from a loser…

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 9:12 AM

Think of what has to happen for a conservative to support Trump; a person would have to totally take leave of their senses to do that. So if you start from the premise that the person you’re dealing with has completely taken leave of their sense then is it really so hard to believe they could convince themselves of something that has no supporting evidence, doesn’t make sense and would be easily disproven before it affected the race in the slightest bit? If you’re already so far gone that you’re supporting Trump is there anything left to lose?

alchemist19 on February 2, 2016 at 9:18 AM

Rubio is an opportunist. Promoting his religious beliefs was just an updated version of his joining the gang of 8 when he first came onto the national scene, and using the Repub of Fla credit card for personal use another big example. He tries to claim that he knew the gang of 8 bill had no chance of passing and wasn’t really amnesty anyway, and he only paid the money back after getting caught and had to wiggle his way out of legal trouble over it.

Kissmygrits on February 2, 2016 at 9:50 AM

Delegate Count
Cruz 8
Trump 7
Rubio 7
Carson 3
Paul 1
Bush 1
everyone else 0

Dollayo on February 2, 2016 at 8:36 AM

So in Iowa, we won 18-9 or 19-8 depending on where you stick Rand.

ElectricPhase on February 2, 2016 at 9:59 AM

I love the smell of #ButtHurt in the morning.

Lime in the Coconut on February 2, 2016 at 10:00 AM

alchemist19 on February 2, 2016 at 9:18 AM

No, that’s not it at all. Trump supporters are more focused on immigration and trade, but the issue is destroying the establishment, not “conservatism”.

A Rubio win is a huge win for the establishment, and Rubio won last night.

Redstone on February 2, 2016 at 10:00 AM

The CRUZ message is what won…..The LIBERAL MEDIA HACKS on FOX, CNN, and MSNBC are still attacking TED CRUZ and cheerleading for Donald, Rubio, Clinton, and Sanders.

Realdemocrat1 on February 2, 2016 at 10:02 AM

alchemist19 on February 2, 2016 at 9:18 AM

Palin’s support of Trump only proves the old adage “Everyone has a price”…

right2bright on February 2, 2016 at 10:08 AM

Willow on February 2, 2016 at 1:40 AM

Bravo.

tanked59 on February 2, 2016 at 10:49 AM

Ted Cruz sent out a message to his teams in Iowa to shut down the Carson people and tell everyone that Carson dropping out. I can’t believe this sh!t is allowed to go on.

NWConservative on February 2, 2016 at 4:40 AM

His staff sent out the message. Even the MSM figured he was dropping out when he said he was going home to Florida. Not campaigning in NH or SC (I assume NV too?).

clement on February 2, 2016 at 10:56 AM

So in Iowa, we won 18-9 or 19-8 depending on where you stick Rand.

ElectricPhase on February 2, 2016 at 9:59 AM

Only if a brokered convention happens, which would be a huge disaster for the GOP to try to deny the vote leader the nomination. That’s pretty unlikely.

Dollayo on February 2, 2016 at 10:57 AM

I’m glad this one is over.
The whole Iowa thing was starting to really get on my nerves.
Can’t they go to the back of the line for a while?
And get rid of that caucus system. What’s with that?

justltl on February 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM

Yeah, that Palin support of Trump really mattered.

Trump supporters are more focused on immigration and trade, but the issue is destroying the establishment

They only succeed in making themselves look like idiots. Sure, the TV guy and member of the WWE Hall of Fame should be POTUS.

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/donald-trump

Moesart on February 2, 2016 at 11:01 AM

Because the Microsoft app crashed, it’s possible that there may be many “revisions” and “discoveries” in the days ahead.

Why anyone would consider turning over something as important as voting to a company which consistently produces defective products over and over again…and which consistently propagates the defects to each subsequent product instead of fixing anything…is beyond me.

landlines on February 2, 2016 at 11:39 AM

One question: Does the team that wins the coin toss at the Super Bowl get to declare a great victory?

Love him or hate him, Rubio gave a great speech last night.

grumpyank on February 2, 2016 at 11:51 AM

They threw everything at Cruz. Everything, the liberal media is against him. The gop establishment media is against him. He got piled on at the debate. Trump made up stuff to throw at him.

And Cruz still came out on top. That’s the real story here.

voiceofreason on February 1, 2016 at 11:12 PM

Agreed. And he won in Iowa after coming out against ethanol subsidies. That’s truly amazing. Maybe there is hope for America after all.

idalily on February 2, 2016 at 11:54 AM

If you want to fix something that’s broken, check out our nominating system. These caucuses have a major impact on who gets nominated, but they still haven’t figured out exactly what happened.

grumpyank on February 2, 2016 at 11:54 AM

Did schadenfreude get banned?

portlandon on February 1, 2016 at 11:29 PM

God, I hope so.

idalily on February 2, 2016 at 11:57 AM

“Hillary Clinton Has The Most Statistically Improbable Coin-Toss Luck Ever”

Did the Hillary supporters come equipped with two-headed coins? We need Tlaloc to explain it all to us

grumpyank on February 2, 2016 at 12:04 PM

…the center-right is coalescing…LOL sorry I just couldn’t resist…AP doin a jig…

Pelosi Schmelosi on February 1, 2016 at 11:36 PM
No they are not..Cruz and Rubio had a ground game and actually compaigned..They didn’t just go to rallies and say “I love you people..I am going to do something so great..I’m am going to make America great again” (over and over)..:)

Dire Straits on February 1, 2016 at 11:42 PM

Dam straight. And, unlike Trump, they actually had the guts to show up for the debate and state their positions to the American people.

idalily on February 2, 2016 at 12:07 PM

Did schadenfreude get banned?

portlandon on February 1, 2016 at 11:29 PM

God, I hope so.

idalily on February 2, 2016 at 11:57 AM

You are two freaks.

Merry Christmas

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2016 at 12:28 PM

Trump will win by at least 7 points.

technopeasant on February 1, 2016 at 8:06 PM

Heh. Way to boost your credibility!

DarkCurrent on February 2, 2016 at 1:17 PM

You are two freaks.

Merry Christmas

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2016 at 12:28 PM

They sure are! :D

Beware of hateful self-proclaimed Christians who push that a vote for a nutty blasphemer like Messianic Ted is a wise choice. :)

Frank Marino – “Little Town of Bethlehem”

Oh, and INC, I noticed you haven’t answered this:

Hey INC, do you believe Ted was speaking for God here?

At a stop Saturday at Darrell’s Place in Hamlin, Iowa, Cruz urged his supporters to “awaken the body of Christ that we may pull back from the abyss.”

Anti-ControI on February 1, 2016 at 11:18 PM

Will you ever answer me?

And did you notice that that l2g not only refused to answer, he slandered me instead? What kind of Christian does that? lol :D

Anti-ControI on February 2, 2016 at 2:19 PM

A-C

Nothing like pious hypocrites, with pitchforks :)

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2016 at 5:43 PM

Anti-ControI on February 2, 2016 at 2:19 PM

I didn’t even noticed that comment of yours until just now. I’m not sure why you thought I wasn’t answering you.

Not knowing the context, but off the top of my head, no, he wasn’t speaking for God, but there wasn’t anything outlandish about the statement. The body of Christ refers to Christians. It’s a well known biblical term. This sounds like an exhortation to Christians to pull the country back from the abyss. A lot of people, Christian or not, think that’s where we’re headed.

And no, I haven’t noticed anything anyone said about you on this thread.

INC on February 3, 2016 at 5:15 AM

Not knowing the context, but off the top of my head, no, he wasn’t speaking for God

Thank you for admitting that. :)

Since he wasn’t speaking for God, who was he speaking for exactly, hmm? lol :D

but there wasn’t anything outlandish about the statement.

How is a statement like that, which wasn’t motivated by the Holy Spirit, not outlandish?

I consider it blasphemous. And I am quite convinced Jesus and the Apostle Paul agree with me. :)

The body of Christ refers to Christians. It’s a well known biblical term. This sounds like an exhortation to Christians to pull the country back from the abyss. A lot of people, Christian or not, think that’s where we’re headed.

INC on February 3, 2016 at 5:15 AM

How is it possible that the body of Christ could need any awakening which would require the prayer of Ted’s (or anyone else’s) supporters?

That’s an absolutely insane notion, and considering how known liar and lunatic Glenn Beck is attracted to Messianic Ted, there’s no good excuse for any Christian to miss that something is really off here.

Anti-ControI on February 3, 2016 at 5:47 AM

A-C

Nothing like pious hypocrites, with pitchforks :)

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2016 at 5:43 PM

haha nope! :D

Anti-ControI on February 3, 2016 at 5:50 AM

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