Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on January 31, 2016 by Allahpundit

Five people stand a chance (one of them a very slim chance) of delivering a victory speech in Iowa tomorrow night: Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bernie Sanders, and Hillary Clinton. Coincidentally, as I write this, there are only five guests booked this morning for the last Sunday shows before the caucus: Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bernie Sanders, and Hillary Clinton. The one to watch is “Fox News Sunday,” which will have Trump and Cruz. This is Chris Wallace’s chance to unfurl the Trump immigration lowlight reel that Fox didn’t get to show on Thursday night and Trump’s chance to continue accusing Cruz of being some sort of illegal immigrant. Trump will also be on “This Week” and “Face the Nation” while Cruz will appear on “Meet the Press” and “State of the Union.” Rubio will be on “Face the Nation” after Trump and on “State of the Union” after Cruz. One thing to watch for this morning is who Cruz spends his time attacking. A man in a tight race with Trump for first place should, logically, focus on Trump. A man who’s resigned to second place at best and is worried about a late surge from Rubio should focus on Rubio. Hmmmmm.

Sanders and Clinton will both be on “This Week,” in the unlikely event that you’re reading this and you’re more interested in the Democratic race than the Republican one. The full line-up is at the AP.


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smokeyblonde on January 31, 2016 at 4:28 PM

This constant call for open borders is simply corporate welfare at the expense of american citizens.

animal02 on January 31, 2016 at 4:14 PM

And you’ve hit on the source of the problem exactly. While too many people want to get the pitchforks out for individual workers, corporate America remains the single largest enabler of workers and their families who are here illegally. Reductively, however, it’s easier for many to demonize individuals than it is to go after the actual source of the problem—especially since private corporations have become sacred cows to large sections of the electorate.

And those private corporations will lobby hard against any action in that regard, knowing not only that it might tank their own business, but the short-to-long-term effect on the national economy would be devastating.

It’s a hugely complex issue, which is why those who think that a simple (and fantastical) “deport-’em-all” approach aren’t engaged in reality-based thinking.

CivilDiscourse on January 31, 2016 at 4:29 PM

^^ this is also why Trump (if not many of his supporters) has suddenly become more nuanced on this issue.

CivilDiscourse on January 31, 2016 at 4:30 PM

smokeyblonde on January 31, 2016 at 4:12 PM

I take your point, and agree in that specific regard. I thought you were taking a broader negative stand than you actually were.

CivilDiscourse on January 31, 2016 at 4:36 PM

It’s a hugely complex issue, which is why those who think that a simple (and fantastical) “deport-’em-all” approach aren’t engaged in reality-based thinking.

CivilDiscourse on January 31, 2016 at 4:29 PM

Isn’t it though>!?

What is the right answer? Total deportation or Open Borders? Or somewhere in between? I see no in-between thanks to the FedGov last 32 years since they screwed Reagan on amnesty and the border.

smokeyblonde on January 31, 2016 at 4:37 PM

Or somewhere in between?
smokeyblonde on January 31, 2016 at 4:37 PM

As with an issue of any import or controversy, any real solutions are always, always, ALWAYS somewhere in between. That position is never as sexy as extremism, however—and doesn’t play as well on TV/in the blogosphere. Politicians know this. That’s why the electorate continue to vote for so-called hard-liners who inevitably disappoint them once they’re governing/legislating. See: TEA-Party 2010.

CivilDiscourse on January 31, 2016 at 4:43 PM

Start deporting them all…..make illegal unwelcome, go after businesses that use illegals and the market will dry up on both the supply side and demand side for illegal labor. That happens and a great many more will self deport. It has happened in the past and will happen again.

animal02 on January 31, 2016 at 5:55 PM

Very OT – the Ex talked to youngest 2 1/2 weeks into Navy bootcamp. She is doing well and having fun! Very insubordinate to auhority – but that is expected based on her parents.

smokeyblonde on January 31, 2016 at 6:45 PM

smokeyblonde on January 31, 2016 at 6:47 PM

go after businesses
animal02 on January 31, 2016 at 5:55 PM

This is the obvious step one, and more important, since it is the root of the issue. Workers don’t migrate unless they’re hired at the end of the journey.

But there is no political will to take on the corporations. It means taking on big money in politics. And anything else is shadow boxing. It’s also why trying to demonize individuals and families is only a clear misdirect. Businesses who make money off the backs of poor, underpaid (in terms of market wage) workers here illegally at the expense of American citizens for the sake of profit are too entrenched and politically powerful because of money’s influence over our political system.

If you blame illegal immigrants for America’s problems but ignore the root causes perpetrated by corporations who created and continue those same problems, then you’re simply a handy tool in the politicians’ toolbox,—responding to those who whip up misdirected resentment for votes, and then retreat back into the money-controlled political establishment once elected.

This is just so obvious, when you take a clear-eyed look.

CivilDiscourse on January 31, 2016 at 7:02 PM

Very OT – the Ex talked to youngest 2 1/2 weeks into Navy bootcamp. She is doing well and having fun! Very insubordinate to auhority – but that is expected based on her parents.

smokeyblonde on January 31, 2016 at 6:45 PM

smokeyblonde on January 31, 2016 at 6:47 PM

Who woulda guessed? :-) Also exactly why I know I’d’ve been a washout if I’d tried. lol

Glad she’s having fun and doing well!

CivilDiscourse on January 31, 2016 at 7:04 PM

OK Trumpers let’s see the list of his conservative bona fides:
How about starting with his position on Kelo v. New London?

Missilengr on January 31, 2016 at 11:41 AM

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Pfft! After reading the comments here and in other anti-trump threads, do you not yet understand that very few of us are going to waste time, electrons, bits and bytes replying to your incessant, “Show me his Conservative bona-fides.” We agree with you he has a spotty record in the past. So what? I’ve said it before, there are three issues to consider, right now, today, in the year 2016 AD and that’s it.
1.) Throw out all of the aliens, ban muslims.
2.) Restore our military to superpower status.
3.)Realign tax structures, trade agreements and general economic policies to favor Americans, and not the Globalist Mega-corporations and other internationalists who have been boinking us with our own K-Y jelly for the last 75 or 80 years.
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If Trump manages to acomplish ANY of those, let alone all three, he will have worth our loyalty. I doubt that you and other anti-trumpers will convert anyone on this side, but it must give you a pretty substantial Chrissie Matthews tingle to pat yoursevesf on the back and wallow in your, “I sure showed those cretins up!”
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So, give it a rest, huh?

meerbock on January 31, 2016 at 8:25 PM

Trump should start charging you idiots for living rent free in your heads all this time. So hes not a Conservative, big whoopty sh!t!! I want my Country back……now go pull up your jeb bush yard sign, it aint workin…..

Indiana Jim on January 31, 2016 at 9:05 PM

OK Trumpers let’s see the list of his conservative bona fides

Missilengr on January 31, 2016 at 11:41 AM

1) He enlisted the VERY conservative Jeff Sessions to co-write his immigration policy, which was his entry into the candidacy.

2) He has now hired a key aide to Jeff Sessions, who did the prep-work for Sessions in setting HIS policies on immigration, and addressing the “Gang of 8” amnesty… and now is a Trump senior policy advisor.

Point to where ANY of the other candidates have done anything like this, and maybe we can address THEIR conservative bona fides.

dominigan on February 1, 2016 at 9:14 AM

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