DNC shut out as Sanders, Clinton propose four more Dem debates

posted at 5:31 pm on January 30, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

The DNC’s planned coronation of Hillary Clinton as the Democrats’ 2016 nominee has pretty much gone off the rails at this point, with far too many voters refusing to toe the line and the pesky FBI inserting doubts in the hearts of the faithful. You may recall that, at least until now, DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has been holding the line, insisting that her paltry schedule of six debates (four before Iowa) was sufficient and would keep the voters informed. Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley and some big names in her base have called out the obvious ploy and been screaming for more, but as long as it looked like Hillary would limp over the finish line there was no reason to retreat from DWS’s original plan. Now, however, Hillary is feeling the Bern and is in a mood to cut a deal, so she has parlayed with Bernie to stock up the debate cupboard with several more engagements. (Politico)

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders’ campaigns have agreed in principle to attend four more debates, starting with a proposed New Hampshire event next week, a Clinton campaign aide confirmed Saturday.

The schedule is still subject to approval from the Democratic National Committee, which has not publicly weighed in on the campaigns’ requests to add four events — one in February, one in March, one in April, and one in May — since Sanders proposed it this week.

The final negotiations have yet to be ironed out, but the move comes after days of wrangling in public and behind the scenes, as both candidates sought to pressure each other on the topic of adding debates.

The way it’s being portrayed in this report, the “proposed changes” sound at least mildly palatable for public release, but the reality behind the scenes is obviously far more messy, which can be inferred simply from who is releasing the news. With both the Sanders and Clinton camps letting this news out to the media, it’s fairly obvious that nobody consulted Debbie Downer about this in advance. In other words, she was either steamrolled on the plan or – perhaps even worse – was simply ignored as being inconsequential to the process. If the candidates were at all worried about either the power or the public image of the DNC they would have taken it directly to Wasserman-Schultz and had her make the announcement. It would have been something along the lines of this:

Given the tremendous interest generated among our voters by the spirited and positive policy discussion taking place within our party, I have decided to add an additional four debates so that everyone can fully explore the potential of our highly qualified candidates.

Unfortunately for Debbie, what’s happening is pretty much the opposite. The kids have been talking to the press with only a cursory mention of the proposed debates being “subject to approval” of the DNC. That’s a complete joke on the face of it. DWS has no options at this point. She can meekly stamp her “approval” on the proposal and fade into the background, which is pretty much her only choice. If she refused to sanction the four debates, Clinton and Sanders (oh… and O’Malley too. Sorry, Martin. You’re so easy to forget) could still go ahead and do them. Then, when the other two scheduled debate dates arrived, the Chair can either schedule an event with zero candidates, cancel them entirely, or be forced to break her own rules by allowing candidates who went rogue on her to participate anyway, making her rules a laughing stock in the process.

For the long haul, Clinton still looks like the likely winner unless the Justice Department decides to indict her. But no matter how this shakes out in the end, there’s really only one clear loser. And that’s Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

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But she got her hair did and all…

AubieJon on January 30, 2016 at 5:37 PM

can we have a thread for every trump rally? he is going to be our nominee anyway, we should be blogging about him.

nathor on January 30, 2016 at 5:38 PM

Remember the end of The Jetsons, where the dog and cat start chasing each other on the treadmill, and George Jetson is yelling, “HELP JANE! STOP THIS CRAZY THING!! HELP! JANE!!”

DWS is George Jetson.

Except there’s no Jane.

DarthBrooks on January 30, 2016 at 5:40 PM

LAUGHINGSTOCK
It is a compound word!

herm2416 on January 30, 2016 at 5:41 PM

Which one’s on Fox?

Megan and Chris have the videos ready, and Megan promises she’ll wear a pants-suit so as not to be leggy and all.

Sting on January 30, 2016 at 5:43 PM

Remember the end of The Jetsons, where the dog and cat start chasing each other on the treadmill, and George Jetson is yelling, “HELP JANE! STOP THIS CRAZY THING!! HELP! JANE!!”

DWS is George Jetson.

Except there’s no Jane.

DarthBrooks on January 30, 2016 at 5:40 PM

ROFL

Aizen on January 30, 2016 at 5:50 PM

The FBI may have to divert a few agents from investigating Hillary.

DES MOINES – “Today I was shown a piece of literature from the Cruz for President campaign that misrepresents the role of my office, and worse, misrepresents Iowa election law. Accusing citizens of Iowa of a “voting violation” based on Iowa Caucus participation, or lack thereof, is false representation of an official act. There is no such thing as an election violation related to frequency of voting. Any insinuation or statement to the contrary is wrong and I believe it is not in keeping inthe spirit of the Iowa Caucuses.

Additionally, the Iowa Secretary of State’s Office never “grades” voters. Nor does the Secretary of State maintain records related to Iowa Caucus participation. Caucuses are organized and directed by the state political parties, not the Secretary of State, nor local elections officials. Also, the Iowa Secretary of State does not “distribute” voter records. They are available for purchase for political purposes only, under Iowa Code.”
– Paul D. Pate, Iowa Secretary of State

http://oskynews.org/?p=76426

https://www.facebook.com/IASecretaryofState/posts/1674967672728065

And perhaps the US Postal Service needs to step up and charge the Cruz campaign with mail fraud…one count per each mailed form.

VorDaj on January 30, 2016 at 6:02 PM

Which one’s on Fox?

Sting on January 30, 2016 at 5:43 PM

Not the one next week here in NH, which will be on MSLSD.

Del Dolemonte on January 30, 2016 at 6:08 PM

Note that some future Democrat debates may be scheduled in the middle of the day, due to limitations in jail visiting hours.

RBMN on January 30, 2016 at 6:10 PM

It aint over until the fat black ladies with the floor length hair extensions rush the stage and shout down the candidates!

Blake on January 30, 2016 at 6:13 PM

DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz

…what a nightmare it must be to even spend 10 minutes with that woman!…I think my golf balls would shrivel, my putter fall off…and then I would profusely bleed from the brain…or whatever!

JugEarsButtHurt on January 30, 2016 at 6:19 PM

I love the smell of desperation in the morning…

Oxymoron on January 30, 2016 at 6:31 PM

Poor dippity do

cmsinaz on January 30, 2016 at 6:33 PM

Am I supposed to feel bad for DWS or something?

BD57 on January 30, 2016 at 6:37 PM

Bloomberg/DMR Ann Selzer poll (the gold standard):

live here

kcewa on January 30, 2016 at 6:39 PM

haha

bazil9 on January 30, 2016 at 6:46 PM

Trump: 28

Cruz: 23

Rubio: 15

Carson: 10

kcewa on January 30, 2016 at 6:47 PM

Remember the end of The Jetsons, where the dog and cat start chasing each other on the treadmill, and George Jetson is yelling, “HELP JANE! STOP THIS CRAZY THING!! HELP! JANE!!”

DWS is George Jetson.

Except there’s no Jane.
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DarthBrooks on January 30, 2016 at 5:40 PM

.
Good analogy.

listens2glenn on January 30, 2016 at 7:01 PM

DarthBrooks on January 30, 2016 at 5:40 PM

Hhahahahahaha

BallisticBob on January 30, 2016 at 7:48 PM

I gotta say….Hillary’s internal polling must be really bad to push for FOUR more debates. If it was good she wouldn’t give Sanders a sniff of more debates.

goflyers on January 30, 2016 at 8:54 PM

And yet HA and the rest of the leftist LSM only trumpet the “republican civil war”. Lyin’ POS’.

earlgrey on January 30, 2016 at 11:17 PM

LAUGHINGSTOCK
It is a compound word!

herm2416 on January 30, 2016 at 5:41 PM

Thank God you pointed out that colossal error. I could hardly continue to read such plebeian writing after that.

DES MOINES – “Today I was shown a piece of literature from the Cruz for President campaign that misrepresents the role of my office, blah, blah, blah…

VorDaj on January 30, 2016 at 6:02 PM

How many threads you gonna hijack off topic with that cut and paste job? Geez, give it a rest.

And yet HA and the rest of the leftist LSM only trumpet the “republican civil war”. Lyin’ POS’.

earlgrey on January 30, 2016 at 11:17 PM

And yet here you are again, still bitching about HA while you continue to come back and take the time to bitch about it.

Man, I remember back in the day when we had some really witty, clever and interesting commenters here. Still a couple here but it gets harder and harder to wade into fever swamp called Comments.

Big John on January 31, 2016 at 2:01 AM

I gotta say….Hillary’s internal polling must be really bad to push for FOUR more debates. If it was good she wouldn’t give Sanders a sniff of more debates.

goflyers on January 30, 2016 at 8:54 PM

Yep, the more she’s seen, the less popular she gets.

ebrown2 on January 31, 2016 at 2:09 AM

TV execs must be very anxious about the prospect of more Democrat snoozefest specials. Is this a must-carry, or should the DNC pay to air this hopeless trash?

virgo on January 31, 2016 at 3:16 AM

Her best days are behind her.

Kissmygrits on January 31, 2016 at 8:10 AM

Her best days are behind her.

Kissmygrits on January 31, 2016 at 8:10 AM

You mean Benghazi?

right2bright on January 31, 2016 at 9:16 AM

I won’t believe DWS is the clear loser until she disappears from everything. Which will be like getting over a migraine.

Demonized on January 31, 2016 at 1:56 PM

Debbie Wassupwitdathair-Schultz was just doing what Hillary wanted: extreme cover so as few people as possible would see and hear any legitimate complaints by the two little piggies.

One of those piggies grew and grew as he stuck his toe in the swampy waters the shrew brings with her.

billrowe on January 31, 2016 at 3:30 PM