Open thread: The “Where’s Donald?” debate

posted at 8:01 pm on January 28, 2016 by Allahpundit

9 p.m. ET on, of course, Fox News. We know where Donald will be: He’ll be on MSNBC showing his commitment to veterans by directing viewers to a website that wasn’t online until this morning sporting a donations page that will channel all contributions to his personal foundation, which traditionally hasn’t donated much to vets. At one point today the website featured a photo of a “soldier” who’s actually a Ukrainian actor, just to give you a sense of how quickly this was thrown together. When asked earlier this afternoon to name a veterans group that’s associated with the event, Trump spokesperson Katrina Pierson passed. So that’s what’s going on elsewhere around the dial this evening.

As for the debate, the strategy’s straightforward. Cruz will be trying to kill Trump, Rubio will be trying to kill Cruz, and Bush, Christie, and Kasich will be trying to kill Rubio. Cruz is in a tricky position here in that if he hits Trump too hard, he may come off as picking on a guy who’s not around to defend himself. He’ll be careful with any overly nasty zingers, I take it, but otherwise the blueprint is clear — Trump’s not a conservative; more importantly, per all the establishment support he’s gotten lately, he’s not a genuine populist; and he’s way, way too unpredictable to trust with the world’s most important job. Rubio, meanwhile, needs to tear down Cruz to try to stop him from winning Iowa, which would give Cruz momentum in New Hampshire and beyond and set him up for a long primary run. Expect a kitchen-sink attack from him too — Cruz is weak on defense; Cruz accepted dirty, dirty Chinese money to defend them in court (which sounds like a Trump attack, honestly); and Cruz is much worse on amnesty than anyone suspects. Interesting stuff at that last link:

Once in Texas, he joined the board of advisers for HAPI, the prestigious group of Latino conservatives that included George P. Bush, former members of Congress, and multiple veterans of the Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush administrations.

While Cruz was a member of the board and its policy committee, HAPI advocated conservative positions to an array of issues, including its opposition to both climate change legislation and the Affordable Care Act. On immigration, HAPI strongly advocated for a path to legalization, including President Bush’s principles for immigration reform, as well as the 2006 McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill…

The former HAPI board member, who asked not to be named in order to speak freely, described Cruz as a fully engaged member of the group. Cruz co-chaired a 2005 event featuring Gov. Rick Perry and served as a keynote speaker for two of the group’s events. And because of Cruz’s legal expertise, board members said they relied on him to do the first draft of policy positions, including HAPI’s support for immigration reform. When he ran for Senate in 2012, HAPI hosted a fundraiser to support his candidacy.

“It’s just bullsh*t,” said one former HAPI board member to the Daily Beast. “Don’t throw us under the bus for legalization and not take on the nativists and the crazies when you wrote the language. Stand for something.” Think you’ll hear this mentioned by Rubio this evening now that he’s within striking distance of Cruz in Iowa in one major poll?

Speaking of Cruz’s troubles in Iowa, my pal Karl tells me that Cruz was talking up South Carolina in his interview with “The Five” today, possibly suggesting that he has reason to believe Iowa is slipping away and it’s time to overhaul expectations. Maybe he saw the new PPP poll showing him now down eight points to Trump, 31/23? The following trend is simultaneously pedestrian and amazing, pedestrian because it’s a logical consequence of all the Trump fans who used to like Cruz turning on him as the war with Trump escalated but also amazing because a net drop of 30 points in favorability is a lot of change in less than a month:

Cruz has seen a large drop in his favorability rating over the last few weeks, from 69/18 down to just 56/35. Trump’s continued focus on the ‘Canadian birther’ issue may really be a big part of what’s helping him at Cruz’s expense. We found on our last Iowa poll that only 32% of Republican voters thought someone born in another country should be allowed to serve as President, and attention to Cruz’s birthplace has been a constant since that last poll.

The good news for Cruz is that he leads Trump 50/21 among the 30 percent of the electorate that’s backing one of the “also-ran” candidates. If those people end up abandoning their candidate of choice and voting strategically between Cruz and Trump — and 43 percent of them say they’re still open to changing their minds — then Cruz is in good shape. The bad news is that 80 percent of Trump’s fans say they’re locked in versus just 71 percent of Cruz fans who say so. He may lose some votes among his own base to Trump or Rubio at the last second, particularly given how effective Trump’s been milking the issue of Cruz’s eligibility. And if you think Team Trump might be done with that anytime soon, read this.

As for the rest of the field tonight, the establishmentarians Bush, Kasich, and Christie need to snuff any developing Rubio momentum or Iowa or else he’s going to surf into NH, lock up most of the center-righty votes there, and suddenly the other three in that lane are finished. Jeb will probably divide his time between attacking Rubio and Trump, since being anti-Trump is part of his “brand” now. He can’t hit Trump too hard, though — remember, Jeb’s strategy is premised on him and Trump emerging as the final two, so Bush actually wants Trump to win Iowa. If anything, he should be attacking Cruz tonight to help make that happen. The risk in doing that, though, is that if Trump squashes Cruz in Iowa, Cruz’s fans may start defecting towards Rubio as the lone remaining conservative-ish hope of stopping Trump, which hurts Bush in New Hampshire. What Jeb wants ideally out of Iowa, I think, is Trump winning, Cruz finishing a strong enough second that he holds onto his voters in NH, and Rubio finishing dismally with a distant third place. I don’t think he’s going to get that last result but the other two are plausible. Another wild card tonight is Rand Paul, who’s back on the main stage and free to attack pretty much anyone, really. He dumps on Trump routinely; he’s been smacking Rubio for months for his hyper-hawkishness; and more recently he’s been trying to claw back some of the Paul base from Cruz by attacking him as a phony libertarian. Rand’s best strategic move would be to focus on Cruz and hope that frees up some libertarian votes for a surprising Paul showing in Iowa or New Hampshire, but he seems most committed to going after Rubio. There’s logic in that, I guess. If you want to impress libertarians, why not target the most ostentatious neoconservative in the field?

Here’s your thread to comment and commiserate as you’re forced to endure 15 different variations of “How can you stand up to Putin if you can’t stand up to Megyn Kelly?” As I write this at a little before 6 p.m. ET, prediction markets think there’s an eight percent chance Trump shows up tonight in spite of everything. I think he’s too invested in his veterans event to eat crow now, but being there to rebut Cruz’s attacks would be the smart move. And the drama, which is Trump’s lifeblood, would be off the charts. Although, if he really wants to take over the media tonight, he should send Palin to debate in his place like Brando sending Sacheen Littlefeather. I’ll leave you with this from Saudi Prince Alwaleed, responding to an obvious photoshop of himself with Megyn Kelly that was retweeted by Trump this morning. If ever you wanted proof that Trump-style trolling has gone global, here it is. (You’ll find background on the Trump-Alwaleed relationship here.)


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As a politician, not as a POW. But you know that.

Basilsbest on January 29, 2016 at 8:39 AM

Yes, I know that. But I still think that’s why Trump got a pass on that one. Had he been talking about some other POW, Trump would have had his head handed to him.

Magicjava on January 29, 2016 at 8:44 AM

Did Carly and Cruz ever donate that money they hung over the vets’ heads, or not? $3.5 million in total, I think it was.

Buckshot Bill on January 29, 2016 at 8:47 AM

SERIOUSLY Trump Supporters? Is it that bad?

PappyD61 on January 29, 2016 at 8:40 AM

Yep, Senator Trump lost my support when he voted for Corker’s Iran Bill and Obama’s TPA deal. He really annoyed me when he voted for Ryan’s Omnibus.

TheMadHessian on January 29, 2016 at 8:49 AM

I think that the problems we have are mostly because we have too few jobs and not too many people seeking work.

MJBrutus on January 29, 2016 at 8:37 AM

That is totally nonsensical. -1+1=0 no matter how you slice it.

hal_mccombs on January 29, 2016 at 8:49 AM

Trump/Mike Tyson 2016!!!

Mike Tyson: Why I’m a Muslim for Donald Trump

Magicjava on January 29, 2016 at 7:53 AM

Dumb and Dumber. Thanks to Donald for skipping the Fox debate. It was substantive without him.

Misha on January 29, 2016 at 8:52 AM

SERIOUSLY Trump Supporters? Is it that bad?

PappyD61 on January 29, 2016 at 8:40 AM

All great points, well said.

WordsMatter on January 29, 2016 at 8:57 AM

Did Carly and Cruz ever donate that money they hung over the vets’ heads, or not? $3.5 million in total, I think it was.

Buckshot Bill on January 29, 2016 at 8:47 AM

It was PACs supporting Cruz, not Cruz himself.

WordsMatter on January 29, 2016 at 8:59 AM

SERIOUSLY Trump Supporters? Is it that bad?

PappyD61 on January 29, 2016 at 8:40 AM

No, it’s not that bad. It is much, much worse.

Look at California. Just look, for the love of God.

That is where we are all going, in short order, but the rest of the country lacks California’s massive advantages that are keeping it afloat even with all the insanity.

You won’t take this seriously until it’s way too late.

fadetogray on January 29, 2016 at 9:03 AM

It was PACs supporting Cruz, not Cruz himself.

WordsMatter on January 29, 2016 at 8:59 AM

So has Cruz’s super-PAC donated the money? It’s distasteful waving out like bait. Donate first, then demand a debate (even though the debate is against RNC rules).

Buckshot Bill on January 29, 2016 at 9:04 AM

Bumped for anyone interested:

McAuliffe and Herring of VA to reverse course on disastrous executive move on CCLs.

Democrats will reverse course and not revoke reciprocity agreements with 25 states for concealed handgun permits in Virginia.

I think the stink they caused finally wafted back to Richmond.

hillbillyjim on January 29, 2016 at 9:04 AM

Did Carly and Cruz ever donate that money they hung over the vets’ heads, or not? $3.5 million in total, I think it was.

Buckshot Bill on January 29, 2016 at 8:47 AM

It would have been a classy move, but no.

katy the mean old lady on January 29, 2016 at 9:05 AM

Hillary team admits Trump will win General Election!

In a stunning admission, Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager predicts in an email that Donald Trump will become president if he wins the Republican nomination.

“If Donald Trump takes the Republican nomination, our party will lose more than the presidency,” Robby Mook writes to supporters.

Buckshot Bill on January 29, 2016 at 9:09 AM

After the #GOPDebate, Democrats tell C-SPAN they're voting for Trump https://t.co/9sg9FI1k8B pic.twitter.com/mTZayvJVb1— Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) January 29, 2016

I believe the GOPe wanted to ‘expand the tent’. Well there you go, #Winning.

TheMadHessian on January 29, 2016 at 9:09 AM

hal_mccombs on January 29, 2016 at 8:49 AM

Proving your economic illiteracy. Even IF all else were equal (and it’s not) a larger economy (more people and more jobs) is superior to a smaller one (fewer people and fewer jobs). It means more money for infrastructure, defense, &c because these costs scale nonlinearly with workforce size.

MJBrutus on January 29, 2016 at 9:10 AM

America's most reliable bellwether county has fallen for Trump: https://t.co/ccHbdtHLYH | AP pic.twitter.com/Xqs5CXLsxd— POLITICO Magazine (@POLITICOMag) January 29, 2016

TheMadHessian on January 29, 2016 at 9:17 AM

I didn’t see the debate, saw most of Trump. Great thread
laughed head off:

My Gawd, would you puhleeze climb down off the fvcking cross already. We need the wood.
fossten on January 29, 2016 at 1:10 AM

MissMarple reveals the insanity:

I didn’t watch the debate, but I did tune into Megyn’s show afterward. She said all the questions were reconfigured after Trump said no. She even held up two stacks of paper with post-its, showing which was which – one was “surprise” in case he decided to participate, and the one they used since he didn’t.
MissMarple on January 29, 2016 at 1:12 AM

Debate questions depend on who shows up? Third degrees belong in a different venue. Debates have moderators, third degrees have interrogators

Most important comment:

If the primaries go as it is shaping up now, the question becomes:

What sort of devilment will the GOPe roll out for the Convention, and how is the best way to derail their machinations?

If Trump and Cruz have a large enough number of delegates, they will be in a bind even if they attempt a brokered convention.

Super Tuesday could be YUGE.

word is out GOPe has installed trojan horse delegates who will not vote for their team after the first vote – unless delegates move day 1 to change the rules

Best light hearted sparring:

I think Shad should be banned for the names he called me. I hope he will be. petunia on January 29, 2016 at 1:35 AM

Please fill out this form and email it to : [email protected],com, with CCs: to [email protected],com and [email protected],com
LegendHasIt on January 29, 2016 at 1:46 AM

this is why HA is still worth it:

Oh I know. I’ve been here for many years. The comment section has been taken over by a pack of middle schoolers who think the busting up of “political correctness” gives them license to let it all hang out. It’s really brought the place down. Schad thinks he’s king of the pack. It’s pathetic, actually.
Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 3:04 AM

Schadenfreude rocks. Rock crush scissors.

A comment:

I did not watch the debate, so maybe I don’t quite understand — but isn’t it pretty odd for a “debate moderator” to show clips of someone’s previous speeches/talks and dissect them? I thought “debate moderators” were supposed to provide questions and then stand back as the debaters debated – and to steer them back to the subject if they wandered astray.
anotherJoe on January 29, 2016 at 3:20 AM

Not just odd, it is pure Alice in Wonderland

canopfor, awed by your good work:

7th GOP Debate: Ted Cruz says “if you guys ask one more mean question, I may have to leave the stage.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUvX7HO1BtI
canopfor on January 29, 2016 at 6:52 AM

and the FOX focus group link etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sAafoukF4w
canopfor on January 29, 2016 at 7:07 AM

most worthy:

Did the evil genius, tRump, plan the debate that way? Did he know that Cruz would take as much fire as he would by his absence? I don’t know, but tRump’s closest rival was hurt a lot more by the debate than he was MJBrutus on January 29, 2016 at 7:16 AM

In case you were starting to feel sorry for EE:

Erickson’s hilarious take down of Santorum and Huckabee
http://theresurgent.com/mike-huckabee-and-rick-santorum-end-their-campaigns-and-kneel-before-zod/
WordsMatter on January 29, 2016 at 7:30 AM

Award to Magicjava for finding gold

USGS has detected gold, silver, copper, and uranium in Harney County, Oregon, home of Hammond Ranch
http://pubs.usgs.gov/bul/1740b/report.pdf
Magicjava on January 29, 2016 at 7:55 AM

Joseph K sums it up

‘Now that we’ve got the Donald Trump portion out of the way, I want to thank everyone here for showing the men and women of Iowa the respect to show up and make the case to the people of this state and the people of the country why each of us would be the best commander in chief,’ Cruz said.
What a loser.
Joseph K on January 29, 2016 at 12:58 AM—————–

Thanks to wonderful HA folk for great thread

entagor on January 29, 2016 at 9:43 AM

TheMadHessian on January 29, 2016 at 9:17 AM

Why does Trump (PBUH) always look either pissed off or about to blow somebody?

Mimzey on January 29, 2016 at 9:51 AM

Why does Trump (PBUH) always look either pissed off or about to blow somebody?

Mimzey on January 29, 2016 at 9:51 AM

Don’t you think that would be a question you’d ask Trump?

TheMadHessian on January 29, 2016 at 10:01 AM

Why does Trump (PBUH) always look either pissed off or about to blow somebody?

Mimzey on January 29, 2016 at 9:51 AM

Corned beef and cabbage.

hillbillyjim on January 29, 2016 at 10:19 AM

Thanks to wonderful HA folk for great thread

entagor on January 29, 2016 at 9:43 AM

Thanks for the summary.

Your posts are missed.

hillbillyjim on January 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM

Any word when Donnie the Draft Dodger will apologize for mocking POW’s?

Blue Lou Boyle on January 29, 2016 at 7:08 AM

To the best of our knowledge, no one has charged Trump with violating the Selective Service law. His student deferments were routine. And unless someone has new information, there is no legal issue with his medical deferment.

Magicjava on January 29, 2016 at 7:36 AM

So he has to be charged with a crime before he can apologize for offending POW’s? It has nothing to do with McCain.
Trump has no use for POW’s because he can’t use them for a photo op and they can’t vote for him. Therefore they should be mocked and dismissed.
Trump is a scumbag and cowardly draft dodger period. His comments were disgusting. Can’t you fluffers even acknowledge he has diarrhea of the mouth and has no control over the vile things that come out of his pie?
If he has no respect for the POW/MIA he certainly doesn’t respect those who had the bad sense to get themselves killed.

Blue Lou Boyle on January 29, 2016 at 10:24 AM

Open thread: The “Where’s Donald? How to pee into petunia’s cereal” debate

Aka, how to expose the most stupid hussies of HA.

Legend, that was a classic.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM

SERIOUSLY Trump Supporters? Is it that bad?

PappyD61 on January 29, 2016 at 8:40 AM

Just look around. Who would be addressing immigration, i.e. importing massive quantities of uneducated, unvetted third worlders with no experience of republican or democratic government, who will soon wield the power of the vote, if the issue was not brought to the forefront by Donald Trump? The answer is; not one Republican candidate for president.

That said, do I trust anyone, ANYONE in the Republican Party who might get elected president, other than Trump, to address the immigration issue, even after promising to do so in the campaign before the election? The answer is not just no, but HELL NO!!!

Add to that the many betrayals perpetrated upon the American public by the GOPe in Congress, and I do not trust ANY of the bastages remotely connected to the GOPe to DO ANYTHING to Make America Great Again.

TRUMP 2016

bobthm3 on January 29, 2016 at 10:32 AM

“I like people who weren’t captured.”

– Donald Trump

Blue Lou Boyle on January 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM

entagor, get your ol’ azz back in here more often.

Schad thinks he’s king of the pack. It’s pathetic, actually.
Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 3:04 AM

Missed this one, with the petunia clinical obsession and paranoid delusion of being persecuted, while she was fixing roses and cereal bowls, while preaching to us to stay on the non-Trump topic, when she was bashing Trump.

To make absolutely certain, since this is an Open Thread, I fully support any topics that petunia or others wish to share.

Now, back to the incredibly hypocritically pious non-Grace, I don’t only think that I’m the “king of the pack”. I am the lead “vulgarian howler monkey”, and there is not one damn thing you can do about it.

That is so perturbs you is one of the greatest joys. Still, you mean very little, outside of laughing at you and the other preaching pious fools, who fail to look into their ‘conservative’ mirrors. Nothing is more amusing than exposing you. It’s a microcosm of what right now goes on in the country and the world.

Here is a gift for all of you
.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 10:45 AM

That is it so perturbs you is one of the greatest joys. See my nom.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 10:47 AM

Winners and Losers

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 10:49 AM

7 Dwarfs

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 10:49 AM

Hot Air, ban this nonsense.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 2:46 AM

A+++

You should be banned, for your bitter soul and bile, but God keeps you here, so you can hate on me and others.

Heh

Dear HA, never ban my adorable honeys of HA.

Dear Lord, thank you for all of them. They are the pious bitter hypocritical hacks of the world.

Thank you Lord, for your sense of irony, humor, justice and payback, and for my adorable following.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 10:57 AM

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 10:45 AM

No Schad. You are King of the Pack. Unfortunately the pack is missing a few cards.

Walter L. Newton on January 29, 2016 at 10:58 AM

Don’t like you either Walter but I always wish you well, success and safety.

You’re also missing more than a few cards, and the obvious, but that’s totally ok :)

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 11:08 AM

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 10:45 AM


K

No Schad. You are King of the Pack. Unfortunately the pack is missing a few cards.

Walter L. Newton on January 29, 2016 at 10:58 AM

… snuffled the knave.

(つಥ∩ಥ)つ

hillbillyjim on January 29, 2016 at 11:15 AM

Thank you Lord, for your sense of irony, humor, justice and payback, and for my adorable following.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 10:57 AM

Au contraire, angry atheists are a dime a dozen and pollute every single venue they populate. Rather like Legionnaire’s Disease. Infiltrate, spread and ultimately destroy.

You think insults are something new. They’re not. Now, if you want an original atheist, you can look to Allahpundit.

As for leader of the commentariat, Sophie Ro had it all over you.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 11:25 AM

The “Where’s Donald?” debate


Anyone get the correct answer yet?

After last night, it should be obvious …

He’s EVERYWHERE

PolAgnostic on January 29, 2016 at 11:45 AM

My honey Non-Grace, you are a stupid losing bitter no one. You’re also a hypocritical pious ‘conservative’, who meddles and nags.

Link where I said that I am the “leader of the commentariat”.

Heh, you want to show us how much French you know?

You also want to educate us on what atheists are?

You want to introduce us to Allahpundit?

You want to introduce us to RWM?

How arrogantly and condescendingly boring and ignorant of you :)

Too bad Lime is on a self-imposed leave. Here’s what is so truly funny. I admire Lime and you are jealous of both of us.

Now, on your knees, to ask God for forgiveness for your sins and wrongdoings. Envy is a sin.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 11:53 AM

Non-Grace has been praying and pleading for my banning, and God has not been merciful…to Non-Grace.

On your knees, you moron.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 11:56 AM

Why does Trump (PBUH) always look either pissed off or about to blow somebody?

Mimzey on January 29, 2016 at 9:51 AM

I’d say it’s in the eyes of the beholder.

bluefox on January 29, 2016 at 1:11 PM

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 11:53 AM

I see you’re having too much fun.

bluefox on January 29, 2016 at 1:26 PM

Dear Trumpbots, Trump is not a conservative, just so ya know.

WordsMatter on January 29, 2016 at 7:25 AM

Donald J. Trump has been promoted to Patriot Status!!

bluefox on January 29, 2016 at 1:29 PM

bluefox, there is no such thing.

For you

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 1:32 PM

Cruz supporters whine worse than right2bright.

fossten on January 29, 2016 at 7:23 AM

ROTFLMAO. They do!!

NWConservative on January 29, 2016 at 1:42 PM

Charities benefiting from @realDonaldTrump’s Veterans event, during #GOPDebate. $6,000,000 https://t.co/ukkdzwYUDa pic.twitter.com/LKpRjAuJoQ— Daniel Scavino Jr. (@DanScavino) January 29, 2016

TheMadHessian on January 29, 2016 at 7:45 AM

Thanks. No one but Trump could set up his Rally in less than 24 hours!!
What an Organizer!!

The online donation page has $620,000.00 at this moment.

Trump=Success

bluefox on January 29, 2016 at 1:46 PM

No, you agreed with Petunia in her hall monitor comments demanding people leave an OPEN THREAD for making “off topic” comments.
NWConservative on January 28, 2016 at 11:38 PM
No, I did not do any such thing. I called out Schade for called her a foul name, and several others for their behavior. Follow the thread.

idalily on January 28, 2016 at 11:51 PM
I did.

We wanted a Trump free issues based thread.

petunia on January 28, 2016 at 9:46 PM
Who is this “we” you keep talking about?

katy the mean old lady on January 28, 2016 at 9:48 PM
Count me in that collective “we.”

idalily on January 28, 2016 at 10:44 PM
You did.

NWConservative on January 29, 2016 at 12:11 AM

Good grief. No, I didn’t. The fact that I want a particular thing doesn’t mean I’m “calling out” anyone who doesn’t provide it. I don’t expect them to do so. I simply raised my hand for what I would prefer. I wasn’t being the thread police for that. I was being the thread police because Schad used a foul epithet comparing a female poster to a female dog. He was out of line. And any man with a shred of decency would have come back with an apology and admit he was out of line. But no, he keeps coming back with more crap with people like you defending him.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 1:48 PM

bluefox, there is no such thing.

For you

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 1:32 PM

I know, since I’m having more fun today than last night:-)

Oh, love that write-up. Snark is good!

Thanks! Foxnews channel was never on my TV and that’s why I had so much fun.

bluefox on January 29, 2016 at 1:50 PM

“T” OMG, are you his buddy? His pal? His paid shill? That would explain a lot.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 12:06 AM
I call Cruz C because it bores me to spell them out.

How boring you and petunia are, yikes, and such nags too.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 12:21 AM

So now we’re female horses? At least you’ve stopped the female dog epithets. Good job.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 1:50 PM

more crap

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 1:48 PM

You’re not decent enough, nor is petunia.

You don’t deserve respect or decency.

Find a mirror, look at your mug, and try to figure this out.

Toodles, bitter losers.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 2:00 PM

You’re just ridicule fodder, no more, you two whining ‘conservative’ dummies.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 2:01 PM

Conservative used to mean a set of values based time honored good behavior, and sound moral principles, now conservative means digging a pit for your neighbor to fall into. And mocking them.

petunia on January 29, 2016 at 1:29 AM
Conservative also means not trying to silence voices that you don’t like.

fossten on January 29, 2016 at 1:31 AM

Bullying, calling names, being rude and insulting is also an attempt to silence others. So, your point again?

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:08 PM

noun

1. a person who nags someone synonyms: shrew, harpy, termagant, harridan, scold

bluefox on January 29, 2016 at 2:11 PM

Whining and victimhood is not “conservative”.

You don’t deserve respect, my honeys.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 2:11 PM

:)

Cool, but it was fun to imagine the two as “female horses”.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 2:12 PM

more crap

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 1:48 PM
You’re not decent enough, nor is petunia.

You don’t deserve respect or decency.

Find a mirror, look at your mug, and try to figure this out.

Toodles, bitter losers.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 2:00 PM

Aw, I’m so upset I don’t have your respect./

As for decency, you called a woman a foul, degrading name simply because she doesn’t support your precious Trump. You were vile and rude. I called you out for it, but instead of saying, oops, sorry, that was out of line, you doubled down on your attacks on her and also came gunning for me. You’re a jerk, and it is you that deserves no respect. You should have been banned.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:13 PM

Whining and victimhood is not “conservative”.

You don’t deserve respect, my honeys.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 2:11 PM

I don’t need it, honey.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:14 PM

:)

Cool, but it was fun to imagine the two as “female horses”.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 2:12 PM

Imagination is good:-) I’ve not seen so many humorless and whining posters since the “fish” days.

Not looking forward to Open Registration either.

bluefox on January 29, 2016 at 2:21 PM

So, a couple of butt hurt old bags who call themselves conservative want to call for a banning? Whatever happened to free speech?

OmahaConservative on January 29, 2016 at 3:28 AM

More name calling and derogatory language. That’s lovely. Look, Schad called another poster a degrading, foul epithet that was completely uncalled for. I called him out for it and told him he should be banned. He was completely out of line. Free speech doesn’t mean bullying others. There’s a fine line and he crossed it. What ever happened to civilized behavior? She didn’t deserve what he said at all. She merely disagreed with him. Where I come from, we called that bullying, and my mama would have slapped me up the side of the head for it and made me apologize. Now others, including you, are piling on and defending him and calling me names? Seriously, where are your manners? Is civility truly lost in this country?

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:24 PM

Daniel Scavino Jr. Verified account
[email protected]

Charities benefiting from @realDonaldTrump’s Veterans event, during #GOPDebate. $6,000,000
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-raises-millions-for-veterans-organizations

https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/692973544574156800

canopfor on January 29, 2016 at 6:20 AM

Thanks Canopfor! Seems like a good list. Difficult to do with so many, but glad to see the ones that said they would not accept any donations from Trump excluded! The latter should have their non-profit status revoked and those Veterans would do better to register with those that care about their welfare instead of political agendas.

bluefox on January 29, 2016 at 2:41 PM

cuHey! Good thread! 2500 posts? Has anyone put a sponge soaked in vinegar and gall on a cane pole and offered it to petunia up there on her cross? She’s probably getting a good case of ‘dry-mouth’ after all of her self-flagellation. Too, I see idalilly recognizes that petunia is, by herself, unable to stem the tide of snark so she’s stepping up to protect her. which produces, mirabile dictu an amplification of the ‘Streisand Effect’, even if they are so unselfaware to miss the comparison. ‘Grace’ needs more fibre in her diet. It is obviously not healthy to go that many days between BMs.
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You know guys, that their opinion of Trump is formed and nourished as much by the generalized Alinsky Rule No. 5 hilarity heaped on them as it is by any substantive evaluation and rejection of Trump as a “Ding (or Mensch) an Sicht” in some sort of objective terms.
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The whole appeal, I think, of the Trump tsunami is in his oft repeated summary of his goals. 1.) reform immigration and throw out the invaders, 2.) Rebuild our military to superpower levels again, 3.) Emphasize economic solutions that favor Americans.
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Those issues subsume issues of foreign and domestic policies, major tax reform, free trade, social assimilation instead of balkanization, corruption in our governments at every level and will, I believe produce the results that WILL ‘Make America Great again.

meerbock on January 29, 2016 at 2:59 PM

cuHey!

S/B Hey! I plead wandering fat fingers.

meerbock on January 29, 2016 at 3:01 PM

John is in the Twilight Zone. He thinks there were 2 debates, one where Trump was present and they didn’t ambush him, and also a 2nd debate, occupying the same space and time, that we’re all commenting on.

cimbri on January 29, 2016 at 1:06 AM

Good one!! I’m having more fun reading comments today as I was too busy watching the Trump Rally for the Vets last night.

bluefox on January 29, 2016 at 3:15 PM

a jerk, and deserves no respect. You should have been banned.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:13 PM

Heh, you idiot. You can’t quit making a fool of yourself. I ‘love’ your kind.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 3:31 PM

I don’t need it

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:14 PM

Sure, why do you persist then?

See your “you should have” :)

You must be a real nagging hag.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 3:33 PM

More name calling and derogatory language. That’s lovely. Look, Schad called another poster a degrading, foul epithet that was completely uncalled for. I called him out for it and told him he should be banned. He was completely out of line. Free speech doesn’t mean bullying others. There’s a fine line and he crossed it. What ever happened to civilized behavior? She didn’t deserve what he said at all. She merely disagreed with him. Where I come from, we called that bullying, and my mama would have slapped me up the side of the head for it and made me apologize. Now others, including you, are piling on and defending him and calling me names? Seriously, where are your manners? Is civility truly lost in this country?

I don’t need it

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:24 PM

Mirror, mirror :)

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 3:36 PM

Non-Grace has been praying and pleading for my banning, and God has not been merciful…to Non-Grace.

On your knees, you moron.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 11:56 AM

It’s cute that you think your being here or not being here would make anyone’s prayer list.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 3:40 PM

meerbock on January 29, 2016 at 2:59 PM

You’re owed a bouquet of roses, not the petunia kind :)

Respectfully and thankfully

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 3:40 PM

don’t think

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 3:40 PM

We knew that. On your knees, for what I said, to ask for forgiveness for yourself, you hypocritical pious hacks.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 3:41 PM

Whining and victimhood is not “conservative”.

You don’t deserve respect, my honeys.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 2:11 PM

I bet the first people to log in to chat rooms, forum boards or comment sections were angry, bitter atheists. They finally found their church, see. Somewhere they could vent their spleen anonymously.

It’s so boring and played-out. But unfortunately, still utterly ruinous, because you still have to wade through the dross to get to anything worth reading.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 3:44 PM

Deflection is not “conservative”.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 3:44 PM

dross to get to anything worth reading.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 3:44 PM

We knew, you hypocritical pious moron, who pretends to be so holy.

God takes good care of me. You’re just jealous.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 3:53 PM

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 3:44 PM

How do you know if Schadenfreude is an atheist?

Perhaps he has stated that somewhere, but If so, I never saw it.

Just because someone points out your ‘holier-than-though’ hypocrisies doesn’t mean that they deny the existence of God.

LegendHasIt on January 29, 2016 at 4:01 PM

How do you know if Schadenfreude is an atheist?

Perhaps he has stated that somewhere, but If so, I never saw it.

Just because someone points out your ‘holier-than-though’ hypocrisies doesn’t mean that they deny the existence of God.

LegendHasIt on January 29, 2016 at 4:01 PM

I go back, way back. Back in the day, Schad came here mostly to argue the existence of God, atheist-style, for pages and pages and pages. And pages. And pages. And pages.

Notice he has not denied being an atheist.

OH, and when I say atheist-style, I mean just exactly like this. Thank God, some online atheists are like AP. Most are like Schad.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 4:03 PM

OH, and when I say atheist-style, I mean just exactly like this. Thank God, some online atheists are like AP. Most are like Schad.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 4:03 PM

I’m an online atheist. And I’m also one in real life.

Walter L. Newton on January 29, 2016 at 4:09 PM

I go back, way back. Back in the day, Schad came here mostly to argue the existence of God, atheist-style, for pages and pages and pages. And pages. And pages. And pages.

NoGrace is full of shit and a hypocritical pious glorious fool, still mad over the non-Schad-banning for telling the truth in another thread.

Notice he has not denied being an atheist.

You can post a million more idiotic lies, and God still loves me. Prove otherwise you fool.

OH, and when I say atheist-style, I mean just exactly like this.
Thank God, some online atheists are like AP. Most are like Schad.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 4:03 PM

Thank you God for fools like the hypocritical nonGrace. Have mercy, because envy is but one of nonGrace’s problems.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 4:09 PM

I’m an online atheist. And I’m also one in real life.

Walter L. Newton on January 29, 2016 at 4:09 PM

That I don’t hate on you, just because you don’t like me, automatically makes me an “atheist” in nonGrace’s little brain.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 4:12 PM

One of the signs that God loves me is that all my haters can’t get enough of lurking and/or following my comments.

How about you just ignore them? Doesn’t look like God pleases your banning request.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 4:14 PM

I go back, way back. Back in the day, Schad came here mostly to argue the existence of God, atheist-style, for pages and pages and pages. And pages. And pages. And pages….
Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 4:03 PM

One solid, linked, example, Please.

Thank you.

LegendHasIt on January 29, 2016 at 4:18 PM

That I don’t hate on you, just because you don’t like me, automatically makes me an “atheist” in nonGrace’s little brain.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 4:12 PM

No, you’re an atheist because you presented yourself as one, when you used to argue against the existence of God on every thread related to God. For pages, and pages, and pages.

Just so you know, your insults don’t have one single iota of an effect on me. They’re like little babies passing gas in their diapers. They can’t help it. They don’t know any better. It’s what they do.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 4:21 PM

No, you’re an atheist because you presented yourself as one, when you used to argue against the existence of God on every thread related to God. For pages, and pages, and pages.

I was baptized, you fool.

Just so you know, your insults don’t have one single iota of an effect on me.

We’re even then.

They’re like little babies passing gas in their diapers. They can’t help it. They don’t know any better. It’s what they do.

Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 4:21 PM

You don’t mean even that much to me.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 4:25 PM

No, you’re an atheist because you presented yourself as one, when you used to argue against the existence of God on every thread related to God. For pages, and pages, and pages.
Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 4:21 PM

One, solid, linked example, please.

Thank you.

(Him calling you a ‘holier-than-thou’ hypocrite doesn’t count. I would like to see one wherein he actually denies the existence of God)

LegendHasIt on January 29, 2016 at 4:28 PM

As for decency, you called a woman a foul, degrading name simply because she doesn’t support your precious Trump. You were vile and rude. I called you out for it, but instead of saying, oops, sorry, that was out of line, you doubled down on your attacks on her and also came gunning for me. You’re a jerk, and it is you that deserves no respect. You should have been banned.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:13 PM

So, when you tell someone to jump, you expect they should just because you say so… Good thing to know about you. lol :D

You don’t know how to seriously question your own premises, do you, scold? :D

Anti-ControI on January 29, 2016 at 4:59 PM

For pages, and pages, and pages.
Grace_is_sufficient on January 29, 2016 at 4:21 PM

Well, either Google is unable to find any of those ‘pages, and pages and pages’…. It had been 54 minutes since my first request for a link…

Or perhaps the holy Spirit has come to visit, and Grace is writhing on the floor, speaking in tongues.

Well, I guess I won’t wait with bated breath for evidence any longer.

Good Day! all.

LegendHasIt on January 29, 2016 at 5:14 PM

As for decency, you called a woman a foul, degrading name simply because she doesn’t support your precious Trump. You were vile and rude. I called you out for it, but instead of saying, oops, sorry, that was out of line, you doubled down on your attacks on her and also came gunning for me. You’re a jerk, and it is you that deserves no respect. You should have been banned.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:13 PM
So, when you tell someone to jump, you expect they should just because you say so… Good thing to know about you. lol :D

You don’t know how to seriously question your own premises, do you, scold? :D

Anti-ControI on January 29, 2016 at 4:59 PM

Not at all. I don’t expect anyone to “jump” for me, and I never told anyone to do so. But I do appreciate courtesy, and I do call out repugnant behavior when I see it. Schad called a woman on this site a foul disgusting name, and I told him he was out of line. Instead of doing the courteous thing and apologizing to her, he came full on after me, and kept attacking her. He doubled down and acted like an EVEN bigger jerk. That is all there was to it. I was brought up to call out bullies, not cater to them.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 7:19 PM

I don’t need it

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 2:14 PM
Sure, why do you persist then?

See your “you should have” :)

You must be a real nagging hag.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 3:33 PM

I do it because it makes you dance. I pull your chain, you jerk…how apt.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 7:21 PM

an EVEN bigger jerk.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 7:19 PM

jerk…how apt.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 7:21 PM

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2016 at 7:24 PM

Not at all. I don’t expect anyone to “jump” for me, and I never told anyone to do so. But I do appreciate courtesy, and I do call out repugnant behavior when I see it. Schad called a woman on this site a foul disgusting name, and I told him he was out of line. Instead of doing the courteous thing and apologizing to her, he came full on after me, and kept attacking her. He doubled down and acted like an EVEN bigger jerk. That is all there was to it. I was brought up to call out bullies, not cater to them.

idalily on January 29, 2016 at 7:19 PM

You just contradicted yourself… And don’t think I didn’t notice your avoidance of this question:

You don’t know how to seriously question your own premises, do you, scold?

lol :D

You’re a self-righteous scold who believes others should follow your dictates.

Anti-ControI on January 29, 2016 at 7:42 PM

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