WaPo/ABC poll: Hillary’s relative trustworthiness down to 36% … among Democrats

posted at 10:01 am on January 27, 2016 by Ed Morrissey

Update: I had not noticed that this poll, unlike others from WaPo/ABC and others, posed this question as a relative measure between the two candidates rather than a standalone measure. I’ve edited the headline and the post to better reflect that. Thanks to Twitter follower Cleentonn for pointing it out.

Edited post follows:

Less than four in ten Democrats think of Hillary Clinton as honest and trustworthy compared to her main challenger for the Democratic nomination, according to the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll. Her honesty numbers fell six points in three months, allowing Bernie Sanders to get within twenty points of her for the first time in this series. However, Sanders falls short on other personal characteristics, such as … better personality? Talk about a burn:

Clinton’s single greatest vulnerability has worsened in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates: Sanders now leads by 12 points, 48-36 percent, in being seen as more honest and trustworthy, vs. 6 points last month and an even split in October. Should Clinton emerge as the nominee, it’s an issue the Republican candidate likely will repeat at every chance.

Further, the candidates are virtually even, 47-43 percent, Clinton-Sanders, on who “is closer to you on the issues,” down from a 17-point Clinton lead just last month. And it’s close (Clinton +7) on who’d do a better job “bringing needed change to Washington.”

On the issues, though, Hillary is blowing Sanders out of the water. She enjoys double-digit gaps in every policy area except for regulating banks, which Sanders only carries with a 48/42 plurality. Hillary gets 58/30 on who has the better personality, which suggests that fewer Democrats are “feeling the Bern” than his coverage suggests.

The honest/trustworthy indicator may be an indirect indicator of a lowered ability to inspire turnout, though:

hillary-honest-chart

When only slightly more than a third of your own party considers you honest and trustworthy as compared to a career Congressional backbencher, don’t expect a wave of excitement to sweep through the base when Election Night arrives.

ABC covers the national results in its report this morning, but national results mean very little at this stage. It’s the state results that matter for the horse race, and the opening races look like they are going Bernie’s way:

Quinnipiac’s poll of the Iowa caucus puts Sanders ahead by four with five days left. Younger voters are driving Bernmentum:

With strong support from men, very liberal and younger voters, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders takes 49 percent of Iowa likely Democratic Caucus participants, with 45 percent for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and 4 percent for former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

This is virtually unchanged from results of a January 12 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University showing Sanders at 49 percent, with 44 percent for Clinton and 4 percent for O’Malley. …

Likely Democratic Caucus participants 18 to 44 years old back Sanders over Clinton 78 – 21 percent. Clinton is ahead 53 – 39 percent among voters 45 to 64 years old and 71 – 21 percent among voters over 65 years old.

On thing to watch will be how many of these Sanders voters actually make it to the caucuses. The split between veterans and rookies is much more dramatic for Democrats than it was for Republicans in yesterday’s Q-poll, although among both parties rookies account for about a third of the LV sample. Sanders leads among first-time likely caucus goers 72/26, while Hillary leads among those who have caucused before at 54/38. Sanders had better have a great ground organization to get those voters to the caucuses, or his goose is cooked in Iowa.


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Sorry, but being dishonest is a feature not a bug for democrats.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM

On thing to watch will be how many of these Sanders voters actually make it to the caucuses.

They’ll all be too stoned or watching the ET Tonight’s latest Kardashian butt shot to show up…come to think of it, same problem Rand has.

Rogue on January 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

Meanwhile, Killary, er, offers, Dog Eater a seat with the Supremes to avoid prosecution. Call off Loretta, Barky! Let’s make a deal…

Just as Slick offered, then gave, John Glenn a space shuttle flight for him to play interference during the impeachment hearings.

It’s always quid pro quo with the Clintoons….

viking01 on January 27, 2016 at 10:10 AM

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

Does the Bern know your man crush is because he looks like John C. Calhoun?

NotCoach on January 27, 2016 at 10:13 AM

Umm this is not what this poll says. It says 36% think she is more trustworthy than Sanders. If the poll asked “Is X honest and trustworthy?” then at least some respondents would say yes to both Sanders and Clinton.

Ted Torgerson on January 27, 2016 at 10:14 AM

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

Does the Bern know your man crush is because he looks like John C. Calhoun?

NotCoach on January 27, 2016 at 10:13 AM

Ouch, burn.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 10:16 AM

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

He gives “Bern” a bad name.

bernzright777 on January 27, 2016 at 10:16 AM

Speaking of trustworthiness, the CBS newsreader this morning described the Iowa orations of Hillary and bernie. The split who was reading the news showed bernie in front of a huge crowd and she described it as 14 thousand supporters. She then showed hillary with a much smaller crowd and told the listeners that hillary spoke before a much more intimate crowd. I am hot touting or supporting either one, but the two descriptions show how the main stream colors their language to support their candidate.

Old Country Boy on January 27, 2016 at 10:16 AM

Bern crushes any other pol in trustworthiness.

That’s why the Bern is awesome.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:17 AM

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

crrr6 on January 27, 2016 at 10:19 AM

Sorry, but being dishonest is a feature not a bug for democrats.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM

But you have to be sincere in your dishonesty. Her husband was, so he got away with it. She’s not. As a result, Dems may very well flee to Bernie, who embodies another classic progressive quality: cluelessness about economic, and other, reality.

NB:

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

BuckeyeSam on January 27, 2016 at 10:19 AM

Umm this is not what this poll says. It says 36% think she is more trustworthy than Sanders. If the poll asked “Is X honest and trustworthy?” then at least some respondents would say yes to both Sanders and Clinton.

Ted Torgerson on January 27, 2016 at 10:14 AM

The poll question was who is more honest between Hillary and Bernie.

Johnnyreb on January 27, 2016 at 10:23 AM

Note the campaign slogan : “A Future to Believe In”

More wishful thinking, a favorite amongst the “social justice” crowd.

Sorry, Bern, but an old-style commie is not the answer.

mojo on January 27, 2016 at 10:24 AM

“Who’s that weird kid who keeps sneaking in and trying to use my phone?”

—- Crazy Uncle Bernie

viking01 on January 27, 2016 at 10:25 AM

We really are in the Twilight Zone this election season. And oddly enough weird gets old after a while.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2016 at 10:25 AM

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

BuckeyeSam on January 27, 2016 at 10:19 AM

Yep. It’s what these shallow anti Americans are all about. If dems don’t give out enough free shit as it is, leave it to flat out socialists to pick up the slack. Despicable citizens. Disgusting human beings.

bernzright777 on January 27, 2016 at 10:29 AM

Bern crushes any other pol in trustworthiness.

That’s why the Bern is awesome.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:17 AM

Yes, he’s very honest about how he’s a socialist who is going to drive the country further into ruin.

I hope he is your nominee. I’m tired losing elections to Karl Marx dressed up in a JFK costume. It’s time to make the choice more clarifying for voters so that they can decide if we’re now a socialist country.

crrr6 on January 27, 2016 at 10:29 AM

Johnnyreb on January 27, 2016 at 10:23 AM

Yes Ed updated the post.

Ted Torgerson on January 27, 2016 at 10:31 AM

Can’t say this has been a boring election season.

whatcat on January 27, 2016 at 10:33 AM

Does the Bern know your man crush is because he looks like John C. Calhoun?

NotCoach on January 27, 2016 at 10:13 AM

I would’cve gone with Waldorf from the Muppets….

Hank_Scorpio on January 27, 2016 at 10:34 AM

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2016 at 10:25 AM

Oh heII. I’m still enjoying it.

On a positive note, the Berning liberal trolls are less annoying than the Trump hatin’ nuballs and Cruz hatin’ nutballs ostensibly on our side.

cozmo on January 27, 2016 at 10:34 AM

Democrats *appreciate* dishonesty in their leaders. The fact that they see Hillary as duplicitous ensures that she will be the Democrat Party Candidate for President.

ramesees on January 27, 2016 at 10:36 AM

Bern crushes any other pol in trustworthiness.

That’s why the Bern is awesome.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:17 AM

Promising things he could never ever deliver shouldn’t inspire trust. But he’s appealing to children that don’t understand reality, or economics, or human nature. You know, wannabe socialists….

Hank_Scorpio on January 27, 2016 at 10:36 AM

Bern crushes any other pol in trustworthiness.

That’s why the Bern is awesome.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:17 AM

Additionally, you support the lower than Whale Sh*t
liar know as Hillary Clinton…..
So, at the end of the day, you’re a Blithering Idiot who has
no Principles….

ToddPA on January 27, 2016 at 10:38 AM

cozmo on January 27, 2016 at 10:34 AM

Maybe I’m just tired right now. The scary thing is one of these idiots is going to be president.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2016 at 10:38 AM

In November they will still vote for Hillary….

albill on January 27, 2016 at 10:39 AM

Webb Hubbell’s daughter preparing to run for president:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/chelsea-clinton-gearing-white-house-bid-article-1.2510390

Pork-Chop on January 27, 2016 at 10:40 AM

Pork-Chop on January 27, 2016 at 10:40 AM

I was just wondering about that this morning.

If Hillary’s health becomes an issue, Bill cannot step in. But I see Chelsea has passed the age threshold. Her campaign slogan? “Three for the price of one”.

cozmo on January 27, 2016 at 10:48 AM

Yeah. Hillary’s only close relatives are Chelsea and Bill and I wouldn’t trust them with an alley cat.

jake1246 on January 27, 2016 at 10:52 AM

Promising things he could never ever deliver shouldn’t inspire trust. But he’s appealing to children that don’t understand reality, or economics, or human nature. You know, wannabe socialists….

Hank_Scorpio on January 27, 2016 at 10:36 AM

Bern is speaking many truths, and obviously believes them.

His plans have weaknesses like everyone’s plans do.

But he’s obviously the most trustworthy candidate by a country mile on either side.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:54 AM

Those 36% are the committed Demoncrats that would still vote for Hillary if it came out that she gets regular deliveries from Planned Parenthood of baby livers to have with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

Dexter_Alarius on January 27, 2016 at 10:58 AM

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:54 AM

And lucky for him, he always has Congress to blame for not fulfilling his promises.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2016 at 11:01 AM

But he’s obviously the most trustworthy candidate by a country mile on either side.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:54 AM

He believes socialism is a legit ideology, ergo he is mentally ill or a liar.

Same as his supporters.

mudskipper on January 27, 2016 at 11:02 AM

I just figured out a winning ticket for the dems:

Sanders/Clinton (Chelsea) 2016

cozmo on January 27, 2016 at 11:03 AM

But he’s obviously the most trustworthy candidate by a country mile on either side.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:54 AM

Oe can be as trustworthy as an Eagle Scout, that doesn’t make your vision for America sound. Do you people ever even question the validity of what he is promising? Clueless simpletons.

bernzright777 on January 27, 2016 at 11:04 AM

“I’m trustworthy!,” Shrillary screeched at the staged CNN town hall meeting as she stirred her coffee with a White House silver spoon missing since 2000.

viking01 on January 27, 2016 at 11:06 AM

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

..if you’re feeling the “bern”, dipschit, you’re smoking the wrong end of the joint.

The War Planner on January 27, 2016 at 11:06 AM

I just figured out a winning ticket for the dems:

Sanders/Clinton (Chelsea) 2016

cozmo on January 27, 2016 at 11:03 AM

If you think the presidential race is ugly now…..

viking01 on January 27, 2016 at 11:07 AM

The obvious question is what the 36 percenters are smoking.

MJBrutus on January 27, 2016 at 11:07 AM

bernzright777 on January 27, 2016 at 11:04 AM

In all fairness, though, the same could be said of Trumpty.

MJBrutus on January 27, 2016 at 11:08 AM

In all fairness, though, the same could be said of Trumpty.

MJBrutus on January 27, 2016 at 11:08 AM

It certainly can. But for Trump to accomplish what he is claiming can actually be done with a real conservative. “Bern” is promising shit he will never be able to deliver. Big diff here.

bernzright777 on January 27, 2016 at 11:12 AM

Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

Yikes. That can be treated.

Fallon on January 27, 2016 at 11:14 AM

Oe can be as trustworthy as an Eagle Scout, that doesn’t make your vision for America sound. Do you people ever even question the validity of what he is promising? Clueless simpletons.

bernzright777 on January 27, 2016 at 11:04 AM

As you can see from the poll results this thread is based on, the democrat voters agree with you – they favor Hillary strongly on all actual policy points. They do not think Bernie’s vision for America is sound.

But there’s no doubt that the Bern is trustworthy.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 11:16 AM

He believes socialism is a legit ideology, ergo he is mentally ill or a liar.

Same as his supporters.

mudskipper on January 27, 2016 at 11:02 AM

America has used some smart Socialist policies to help become the most dominant economic superpower in history. Only simpletons dismiss all socialist policy out of hand.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 11:19 AM

Hitler did big things with socialist policy. Stalin, too!

viking01 on January 27, 2016 at 11:23 AM

America has used some smart Socialist policies to help become the most dominant economic superpower in history. Only simpletons dismiss all socialist policy out of hand.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 11:19 AM

Name them.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM

Sorry, but being dishonest is a feature not a bug for democrats.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM

Dems don’t care if their candidates are dishonest; they just don’t like it when they get caught.

PackerBronco on January 27, 2016 at 11:26 AM

Bern is speaking many truths, and obviously believes them.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:54 AM

That’s the scary part.

What’s even scarier is that you believe them.

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 11:35 AM

America has used some smart Socialist policies to help become the most dominant economic superpower in history. Only simpletons dismiss all socialist policy out of hand.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 11:19 AM

Name them.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM

C’mon, big mouth, answer the man.

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 11:35 AM

Pol Pot was big on socialist policy too….

viking01 on January 27, 2016 at 11:58 AM

Bern is speaking many truths, and obviously believes them.

His plans have weaknesses like everyone’s plans do.

But he’s obviously the most trustworthy candidate by a country mile on either side.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:54 AM

The only truth I’ve seen is that he willingly admits he’s a socialist. Everything else he’s promising is either a complete fantasy (free college) or a completely unsustainable disaster (single-payer).

Those aren’t “weaknesses”, those are fundamental flaws in his ideology. You can fix a weakness, but you can’t fix a broken ideology.

Also, he will destroy the middle class, he admitted that as well. I don’t know about you but that includes me and almost everyone I know.

So that’s a big NO for Bernie from me….

Hank_Scorpio on January 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM

America has used some smart Socialist policies to help become the most dominant economic superpower in history. Only simpletons dismiss all socialist policy out of hand.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 11:19 AM

Yeah I have to pile on here, name them and how they were successsful.

Hank_Scorpio on January 27, 2016 at 12:13 PM

But there’s no doubt that the Bern is trustworthy.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 11:16 AM

Yes, you can trust that if Bernie got his way the country would descend into a third world toilet. His policies are ridiculously unsustainable if not outright fantasy.

Bernie proves everyday that socialists don’t understand economics or human nature.

Hank_Scorpio on January 27, 2016 at 12:16 PM

Yeah I have to pile on here, name them and how they were successsful.

Hank_Scorpio on January 27, 2016 at 12:13 PM

Progressive Taxation, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Medicaire were all instrumental in building the greatest middle class in the world, promoting America’s mid-century rise from one of many economic powers to undisputed economic superpwer of the world.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 12:22 PM

Progressive Taxation, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Medicaire were all instrumental in building the greatest middle class in the world, promoting America’s mid-century rise from one of many economic powers to undisputed economic superpwer of the world.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 12:22 PM

And all of them have become bloated, corrupt, and unsustainable. Thank you for proving my point….

Hank_Scorpio on January 27, 2016 at 12:25 PM

And all of them have become bloated, corrupt, and unsustainable. Thank you for proving my point….

Hank_Scorpio on January 27, 2016 at 12:25 PM

They could definitely be improved.

But all have been crucial in America’s rise to economic dominance.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 12:32 PM

Progressive Taxation, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Medicaire were all instrumental in building the greatest middle class in the world, promoting America’s mid-century rise from one of many economic powers to undisputed economic superpwer of the world.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 12:22 PM

You forgot post offices.

Not even close. You just regurgitated some taxation methods.

unemployment insurance payouts doesn’t create a strong middle class. Neither does medicare which was only passed in 1965 and is used for those over the age of 65..hardly the stuff of economic engines.

Here’s a start: In mid-century America was the only major economic power left standing. We became a powerhouse because we built shit not because we withheld income from taxpayers.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 12:43 PM

You forgot post offices.

Not even close. You just regurgitated some taxation methods.

unemployment insurance payouts doesn’t create a strong middle class. Neither does medicare which was only passed in 1965 and is used for those over the age of 65..hardly the stuff of economic engines.

Here’s a start: In mid-century America was the only major economic power left standing. We became a powerhouse because we built shit not because we withheld income from taxpayers.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 12:43 PM

All of this is false.

There is a reason why the rest of europe ended up following our lead.

we became a powerhouse because we bought shit, because our middle class was wealthy.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 12:47 PM

Everdiso…you’re an economic illiterate.

We became great… even with the drag of big gov.

We have great people and great resources. That is why we excelled.

You have your talking points….have fun.

Hilarious.

CWforFreedom on January 27, 2016 at 12:55 PM

Diso, Since you clearly haven’t the faintest clue about economics, history or human behavior, it shines a spotlight on how ignorant leftists really are. Every program you named, *detracts* from personal wealth. All of those programs were designed as social safety nets, and turned into pocket-emptying largesse for all those lazy and derelict enough to vote for them.

How can you even assert that any of those socialist programs does anything other than redistribute wealth from those who generated and earned it, to someone who did not?

I know you *wish* that moving a dollar from your right pocket to your left meant that you now had twice as many dollars…but it doesn’t.

You can’t “Wish it away into the cornfield, Anthony”, socialism is bullshit, it doesn’t work, and this is really gonna break your bleeding heart…socialism is the most unfair form of government there is, save communism. It takes bread from the mouths of those who’ve earned it, and gives it to those who haven’t, based on some arbitrary definition of “just”, defined by people who benefit most from other people’s labor.

The fact that you idolize a man for his honesty, about championing a system that is inherently so dishonest, saddens but doesn’t surprise me.

Capitalism made America the greatest nation on Earth; socialism is lazy people who’ve been stealing from America ever since.

a5minmajor on January 27, 2016 at 1:05 PM

Progressive Taxation, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Medicaire were all instrumental in building the greatest middle class in the world, promoting America’s mid-century rise from one of many economic powers to undisputed economic superpwer of the world.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 12:22 PM

Boy, was this a stupid list……

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 1:07 PM

There is a reason why the rest of europe ended up following our lead.

we became a powerhouse because we bought shit, because our middle class was wealthy.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 12:47 PM

Our middle class is wealthy because our government did not rob them.

And look across Europe if you can; Sweden and Norway, the only two producing economies, have tax rates lower than we do.

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 1:10 PM

Sweden and Norway have federal revenues of between 40-50% of GDP.

America has federal revenues under 20%.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM

All of this is false.

There is a reason why the rest of europe ended up following our lead.

we became a powerhouse because we bought shit, because our middle class was wealthy.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 12:47 PM

europe followed our lead. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

You are one stupid fathersvcker.

You don’t get wealthy by having your income taken away from you. You don’t get wealthy off unemployment benefits and social security payout.

You poor ignorant fukk.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 1:17 PM

Diso, Since you clearly haven’t the faintest clue about economics, history or human behavior, it shines a spotlight on how ignorant leftists really are. Every program you named, *detracts* from personal wealth. All of those programs were designed as social safety nets, and turned into pocket-emptying largesse for all those lazy and derelict enough to vote for them.

Reality disagrees with you.

The New Deal was one of the major causes of the American Century, leading to unprecedented growth and the emergence of America as far and away the leading economic power in the world.

This despite the fact that conservatives guaranteed us that the New Deal would destroy growth, and that their policies of lower taxes and regulation that led directly to the great depression were a better idea.

Time to wake up, sheeple. Reality is calling. Your conservative overlords have been lying to you all along, just so they can line their pockets.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 1:17 PM

You guys learned your economic policy from the exact same establishment elites that you now hate.

Why do you still believe them?

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 1:19 PM

This won’t last long. Polls are always being manipulated. Bern’s going to meet with dear leader, who will give him some advice. Bern will decide he needs to spend more time with the family and drop his bid.

Kissmygrits on January 27, 2016 at 1:20 PM

Sweden and Norway have federal revenues of between 40-50% of GDP.

America has federal revenues under 20%.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM

You’re not reading.

Sweden and Norway’s tax rates are lower than ours.

Before you lie, I have relatives who live there so I know.

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 1:24 PM

ou’re not reading.

Sweden and Norway’s tax rates are lower than ours.

Before you lie, I have relatives who live there so I know.

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 1:24 PM

Nominal tax rates are meaningless numbers.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 1:26 PM

Nominal tax rates are meaningless numbers.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 1:26 PM

Then so is your analogy.

EOD.

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 1:27 PM

Poor widdle everdiso. Wouldn’t know reality if it punched him in his ignorant little face.

The New Deal extended and exacerbated the effects of the Great Depression but thank goodness WWII came along.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 1:28 PM

oor widdle everdiso. Wouldn’t know reality if it punched him in his ignorant little face.

The New Deal extended and exacerbated the effects of the Great Depression but thank goodness WWII came along.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 1:28 PM

Even then, if you chart the growth statistics, we didn’t get fully out of it until 1947.

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 1:29 PM

Even then, if you chart the growth statistics, we didn’t get fully out of it until 1947.

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 1:29 PM

Well that was because of all those people drawing medicare and enjoying socialism provided libraries.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 1:36 PM

Even then, if you chart the growth statistics, we didn’t get fully out of it until 1947.

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 1:29 PM

Well that was because of all those people drawing medicare and enjoying socialism provided libraries.

HumpBot Salvation on January 27, 2016 at 1:36 PM

Heh….. :)

itsspideyman on January 27, 2016 at 1:49 PM

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

Bernie Sanders = Grandpa Simpson and Jim Ignatowski with the cool of a geography teacher.

Del Dolemonte on January 27, 2016 at 2:16 PM

meaningless numbers.

lester on January 27, 2016 at 1:26 PM

Know what else are meaningless numbers? The number of wins your Montreal Canadiens have had since the end of October of 2015.

Feel the Suck!

Del Dolemonte on January 27, 2016 at 2:18 PM

Interesting figures, but: Consider that these same people reflexively regard any Republican candidate by definition as the foul spawn of Satan.

Hence: The lemmings will dutifully line up in November, and vote for the lying Democrat.
Which one, exactly? It matters not. Because ‘Forward’, and ‘Diversity’, ‘n stuff. Or something.

orangemtl on January 27, 2016 at 2:52 PM

Tonight I’ll be phone banking for Bernie. Feel the Bern!!!

libfreeordie on January 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

Please do. Because I’d love to see you and yours ‘feel the burn’ in November. When that doddering old fossil goes down to a defeat that’ll make George McGovern look like a landslide favorite, in comparison.

orangemtl on January 27, 2016 at 2:53 PM

Democrats don’t care if their candidate is a thief and a liar. Just as long as the candidate is THEIR thief and liar.

GarandFan on January 27, 2016 at 3:12 PM