New Huckabee Super PAC ad: Ted Cruz is sort of a phony Christian, huh? Update: Huck, Santorum to join Trump tomorrow night?

posted at 9:21 pm on January 27, 2016 by Allahpundit

Via BuzzFeed, it’s a testament to how marginal Huckabee is in this race that a nuclear bomb of an ad like this has barely drawn comment from political junkies. You can’t go an hour online without a new piece dropping about Jeb Bush and Right to Rise trying to sink Marco Rubio in New Hampshire, but Bush has a far better chance of helping himself amid the center-right jumble than Huckabee has of surging in Iowa. Realistically, the worst-case scenario for Cruz in Iowa is second place with polling in the low 20s; if scorched-earth ads like this peel off some of his social conservative support, it’s probably going to Rubio, Ben Carson, or even Trump, who polls well with evangelicals against all odds. Trump also benefits from the “two-man race” dynamic that’s dominated Iowa for the past two weeks, where it’s taken as a fait accompli by everyone except Rubio voters that the state will come down to Trump and Cruz. That being so, what should a good Christian who’s looking to influence the result do if he concludes he can’t give Ted Cruz his vote? Waste it on Mike Huckabee or caucus for Trump and finish Cruz off?

What you’re seeing here, in other words, is the full realization of the sort of spite campaign that Bush is often accused of running in New Hampshire. Huckabee can wreck Cruz by splitting off some of his social-con support but he can’t personally benefit from doing so. In fact, watch the ad and you’ll see that no attempt is made to contrast Cruz unfavorably with Huck. Huckabee isn’t even mentioned. This is pure seek-and-destroy with Cruz in the crosshairs, and amazingly, it’s being done to benefit a candidate widely perceived as the least religious person in either field. New from Pew:

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Among Republicans, 76 percent view Cruz as very or somewhat religious, second-best among major candidates after Ben Carson, versus just seven percent who don’t. For Trump, those numbers are 44/47 — the only GOPer to have a plurality who view his devotion skeptically. (Even so, a slightly higher percentage of white evangelicals say Trump would make a great or good president than say so of Cruz, 52/49.) Listen to Huck on the stump and you’ll hear endlessly that the way to make America great again is to install a true Christian believer who’ll fight for Christian morality as president — and yet, given the option to attack the Christian believer Cruz for not tithing or the chance to attack a guy who doesn’t know if he’s ever asked God for forgiveness and is seen as not terribly religious by a plurality of his own party, Team Huck oddly goes after … the former. That’s weird, no? A few weeks ago, Huckabee made the astonishing accusation that evangelical leaders who’ve endorsed Cruz over him obviously are less interested in Christianity than in political power — and yet here’s Huck’s Super PAC trying to ingratiate themselves to Trump by ruining the evangelical Cruz. What conclusions should we draw from that about whether Huckabee’s accusation was motivated more by sincere belief or by butthurt? Here’s an early consolation for Cruz fans if things go sideways in Iowa on Monday night: Whatever happens, Huckabee’s political career is weeks, maybe days, away from ending. He might crawl on to South Carolina, convinced that a weakened Cruz will start shedding socially conservative support his way, but he’s kidding himself. He’s dying, and he’s resolved to take Cruz with him even if that means the guy who says “Two Corinthians” ends up as nominee. Is Jeb Bush really worse than Huckabee?

Before you answer that, read this. Yikes.

Update: Ah, the final spiteful revenge for Cruz beating the pants off of them among their own base. Will it happen, though?

In an interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Wednesday morning, Mr. Trump’s campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said that he had heard from other candidates “proactively” about attending the event that Mr. Trump will hold at Drake University at the same time as the debate…

Aides to the candidates did not respond to requests for comment. But Nick Ryan, a Republican operative who advises the “super PAC” supporting Mr. Huckabee, tweeted shortly after the Trump event was announced that candidates in the undercard debate, which airs before the prime-time one, should consider wandering over to Mr. Trump’s event afterward.


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What a freakin’ circus.

KCB on January 27, 2016 at 9:26 PM

Is Jeb Bush really worse than Huckabee?

Yes. Jeb Bush is worse than everybody in the GOP field except Kasich.

And AllahP, spare us your outrageous outrage about Trump being the “least religious” GOP candidate. You are an atheist, and, really, who are you of all people to judge that in a candidate?

Right Mover on January 27, 2016 at 9:28 PM

Establishment continues their night of the long knives.

njrob on January 27, 2016 at 9:28 PM

KCB on January 27, 2016 at 9:26 PM

Having fun yet?

dougmva on January 27, 2016 at 9:29 PM

I haven’t watched a debate yet. I will tomorrow night just to make sure Trump doesn’t get a boost from me…

ladyingray on January 27, 2016 at 9:30 PM

Huck, Santorum to join Trump tomorrow night?

What else to they have to do? Huckabee proved himself a faux Christian by the way he went after Mitt Romney in 2008 and whipped up hatred over the fact that Romney was LDS.

Happy Nomad on January 27, 2016 at 9:30 PM

LOL Sanders is an atheist.

cynccook on January 27, 2016 at 9:30 PM

Vindictiveness is such a Christian trait of F___abee, isn’t it?

KingGold on January 27, 2016 at 9:32 PM

Allah, I’m surprised you didn’t link this…it is the worst

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/mike-huckabee-campaign-releases-hilarious-adele-parody-article-1.2511354

Brat on January 27, 2016 at 9:33 PM

O.K…..thats it. They’re chem trailing us with some shit that F’s you up…possibly some kinda of “Backward Gas” or “Upside-down Gas”. There is no other explanation.

Mimzey on January 27, 2016 at 9:34 PM

As I wrote this morning on the stupid subject…

Jeb Bush says he doesn’t think Trump is a Christian

This is a cheap line of attack (but what else would you expect from a candidate whose shock and awe were neither). It was bad when Fvckabee played the Mormon card on Romney. It’s bad that he is out there questioning Cruz’s Christianity. It’s also just as bad for Bush to say that he doesn’t think Trump is a Christian.

I don’t think that Trump is a particularly devout Christian or Holy Roller, but if he says that he is a Christian, I’ll take him at his word. Just as with others.

This whole line of attack reminds me of those that claim ISIS isn’t really Islamic. If the ISIS fighters claim they are Muslims and acting in the name of Allah, which they do all of the time, who are we to say they are not?

I betcha that Jeb is one of those that is perfectly comfortable with claiming that Trump isn’t a Christian and al-Baghdadi isn’t a ‘real’ Muslim.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 11:30 AM

Huckabee backers slam Cruz as a “phony” Christian in new Iowa ad

Didn’t Fvckabee play the Mormon card the last time around?

He’s devolving into the ranter who argues that there is ‘No True Scotsman.’

Before long, he’ll be claiming that Santorum isn’t a ‘real’ Christian either. **eyeroll**

He’s still pizzed off that he didn’t get the Secret Sermonisers’ endorsement.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 11:11 AM

I don’t care for Huckabee, I’d never vote for him, but I think Cruz is a damn phony. I don’t care how ‘soft’ or ‘religious’ he tries to come off, it reeks of imitation and B.S.

I’m not buying the act.

Andy__B on January 27, 2016 at 11:38 AM

So, whose act are you buying?

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM

Cruz is a better candidate but Huckabee seems more genuine.

Redstone on January 27, 2016 at 11:57 AM

He’s about as genuine as those diabetes supplements he used to hawk all over every conservative radio channel.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 12:00 PM

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 9:34 PM

Let’s see if I have this right…

Trump – Fake Conservative
Cruz – Fake Christian
¡La Jabita! – Fake Woman

Magicjava on January 27, 2016 at 9:37 PM

Having fun yet?

dougmva on January 27, 2016 at 9:29 PM

Worst circus ever.

KCB on January 27, 2016 at 9:42 PM

Santorum’s actually a stronger conservative choice then Cruz, especially on immigration.

Santorum vs Cruz on Trump’s Deportation Plan:

Santorum: YES!

Cruz: no :( Ted Cruz Rejects Trump’s Deportation Plan

Santorum vs Cruz on Trump’s Muslim Ban

Santorum: YES!

http://www.inquisitr.com/2636407/gop-debate-rick-santorum-supports-donald-trump-muslim-ban-declares-world-war-3/

Cruz: no :( Cruz Rejects Trump’s Muslim Immigration Ban

We hit Santorum pretty hard as being a clown or whatnot. But he’s pretty strong on the key issues, unlike Cruz.

anotherJoe on January 27, 2016 at 9:43 PM

If Huckabee and Santorum join Trump tomorrow night Cruz is toast and this primary is OVER and while you all were not paying attention

THIS HAPPENED
Ted Cruz had 771k twitter followers 48hrs ago as I write this he has 661K which is a loss of 110k or 15%

dio55 on January 27, 2016 at 9:44 PM

It’s not inconceivable that the presidential race would feature 3 New Yorkers (Trump, Sanders, and Bloomberg) and that’s not even counting Abeulo!

boone on January 27, 2016 at 9:46 PM

I’m just truly saddened that allah used the phrase “butthurt”.

I truly hate that phrase.

gaijinpundit on January 27, 2016 at 9:47 PM

Via BuzzFeed, it’s a testament to how marginal Huckabee is in this race that a nuclear bomb of an ad like this has barely drawn comment from political junkies.

You see but you do not observe; you hear but you do not listen; you think but you do not understand. The reason this is not big is because of all the endorsements Trump has been receiving and the fact that in the polls he has more than the next 3 candidates combined. You look at a tree and are blind to the forest.

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 9:47 PM

Anyone noticed that no veterans group wants to be associated with Trump? He hasn’t named who his big rally will benefit.

Tater Salad on January 27, 2016 at 9:47 PM

They won’t stop until they go scorched Earth on each other.

And people still think the pubs are gonna win?

BallisticBob on January 27, 2016 at 9:47 PM

I’m just truly saddened that allah used the phrase “butthurt”.

I truly hate that phrase.

gaijinpundit on January 27, 2016 at 9:47 PM

I’m guessing he was making fun of the Trumpettes because that’s a term they dearly love.

Tater Salad on January 27, 2016 at 9:49 PM

Let’s see if I have this right…

Trump – Fake Conservative
Cruz – Fake Christian
¡La Jabita! – Fake Woman

Magicjava on January 27, 2016 at 9:37 PM

…Rubio = Fake…Period…

Pelosi Schmelosi on January 27, 2016 at 9:52 PM

candidates in the undercard debate, which airs before the prime-time one, should consider wandering over to Mr. Trump’s event afterward.

Is there going to be an undercard debate? I heard there was going to be one but then heard there wasn’t.

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 9:52 PM

That’s weird, no?

No, because Huckabee–whom I call Elmer Gantry–is a scumbag. Yes, he is more loathsome than Bush. At least with Jeb, you get the sense that he’s doing this either out of family pride, or because somebody (his wife?) pushed him into running. Elmer is pure ego and huckster.

Aizen on January 27, 2016 at 9:52 PM

I’m guessing he was making fun of the Trumpettes because that’s a term they dearly love.

Tater Salad on January 27, 2016 at 9:49 PM

…when the shoe fits…

Pelosi Schmelosi on January 27, 2016 at 9:52 PM

even if that means the guy who says “Two Corinthians” ends up as nominee.

Second or Two, what’s the difference? It’s like the difference between 6 and half a dozen. There is no difference.

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 9:54 PM

o/t, but religion-related:

U.S. Rapper Downplays Holocaust, Suggests Listeners Read Books By Holocaust Denier Instead…

Twitter Remembers The Holocaust The Only Way It Knows How, With Live Streaming And Antisemitism…

A pathetic state of affairs brought about by the usual suspects, ignorance, and the growing anti-semitism sweeping the globe.

BTW, just yesterday, Ban Ki-Moon (sp?) basically blamed the Jews in Israel for Palestinians killing them.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 9:55 PM

Elmer Gantry’s window closed in 2012. The huckster didn’t want to relinquish his fame and money from working at Fox News and for doing paid advertisements. The greedy SOB now wants to destroy a guy who actually has more of a chance than he (Elmer) ever had.

POS.

Aizen on January 27, 2016 at 9:56 PM

Worst circus ever.

KCB on January 27, 2016 at 9:42 PM

Get out of the flea circus and head to the 3 ringed one.

RickB on January 27, 2016 at 9:56 PM

when the shoe fits…

Pelosi Schmelosi on January 27, 2016 at 9:52 PM

If that’s where you put your shoes, butthurt explains it.

portlandon on January 27, 2016 at 9:56 PM

Anyone noticed that no veterans group wants to be associated with Trump? He hasn’t named who his big rally will benefit.

Tater Salad on January 27, 2016 at 9:47 PM

I only speak for myself, as a Kosovo & Iraq veteran …

Now, taking deferments is alright, if that’s allowed. If those are the rules, you can play by them. But you forfeit the right to sh*t on ANY veteran’s service. I freaking hate John McCain, but when four deferment, silver spoon Donny took a public squat on McCain’s experiences … well, I don’t really have to go any further, do I? And now, to try to wrap himself in the flag with this little event, which has no precedent in his history, well, I’m throwing the bullsh*t flag.

M240H on January 27, 2016 at 9:57 PM

Second or Two, what’s the difference? It’s like the difference between 6 and half a dozen. There is no difference.

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 9:54 PM

LOLZ. ‘Second Corinthians’ is shorthand for ‘The Second Epistle/Letter to the Corinthians.’

Meanwhile, 2 Corinthians walk into a bar…

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 9:58 PM

LOLZ. ‘Second Corinthians’ is shorthand for ‘The Second Epistle/Letter to the Corinthians.’

Meanwhile, 2 Corinthians walk into a bar…

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 9:58 PM

Are you familiar with the fable of the 2 Kingdoms that went to war over which end a soft boiled egg should be opened from?

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 10:00 PM

THIS HAPPENED
Ted Cruz had 771k twitter followers 48hrs ago as I write this he has 661K which is a loss of 110k or 15%

dio55 on January 27, 2016 at 9:44 PM

I just checked. He has 749K followers right now.

TeaTrekkie on January 27, 2016 at 10:00 PM

Sorry, 747K.

TeaTrekkie on January 27, 2016 at 10:01 PM

Establishment continues their night of the long knives.

njrob on January 27, 2016 at 9:28 PM

Yes, that about sums it up.

jazzuscounty on January 27, 2016 at 10:01 PM

If that’s where you put your shoes, butthurt explains it.

portlandon on January 27, 2016 at 9:56 PM

…another butt-hurt anti-Trumpista…greetings and welcome…

Pelosi Schmelosi on January 27, 2016 at 10:01 PM

Worst circus ever.

KCB on January 27, 2016 at 9:42 PM

Too many howler monkeys.

Happy Nomad on January 27, 2016 at 10:03 PM

I only speak for myself, as a Kosovo & Iraq veteran …

Now, taking deferments is alright, if that’s allowed. If those are the rules, you can play by them. But you forfeit the right to sh*t on ANY veteran’s service. I freaking hate John McCain, but when four deferment, silver spoon Donny took a public squat on McCain’s experiences … well, I don’t really have to go any further, do I? And now, to try to wrap himself in the flag with this little event, which has no precedent in his history, well, I’m throwing the bullsh*t flag.

M240H on January 27, 2016 at 9:57 PM

McCain is worse than “fundamentally flawed” in the political sense. There has always been something very wrong with his character, which is one of extreme “me-first-and-only” self-entitlement. He was wrongfully admitted to the Naval Academy with bad grades ahead of more qualified applicants because his daddy and granddaddy were admirals. Rules that apply to ordinary people don’t apply to him. He thumbed his nose at Annapolis because he couldn’t be kicked out or flunked out, because he was JOHN MCCAIN, son and grandson of ADMIRALS. He ignored orders and crashed planes, because he couldn’t be disciplined as the son and grandson of admirals. He ditched the wife who stood by him, when he wanted a rich blonde chick young enough to be his daughter, who could finance his political ambition.

He was caught taking bribes to his wife from the Keating 5, so tried to cover his tracks by imposing the McCain-Feingold nonsense on everyone else (laws only apply to everyone else, not to JOHN MCCAIN). He entertained a blonde lobbyist in ways that worried his staff, and improperly pressured the FCC for her in exchange for …., because he is JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!!. He yelled obscenities at other senators who questioned ramming his McCain-Kennedy amnesty through the Senate in the dead of night without debate, and screamed he knew more about it than anyone else – because he is JOHN MCCAIN, a legend in his own mind !!!!!! He has had secret no press allowed meetings to praise Mexico as our dearest friend and closest neighbor, calling enforcement of the laws “Rhetoric”.

As president, McCain, like the man he helped elect. Barack Obama, would have tried to rule by fiat and would make Hugo Chavez look like George Washington. Like the Alice in Wonderland Queen of Hearts, if any GOP congresscritter disagreed with him “OFF WITH HER HEAD- I’m JOHN MCCAIN, KING OF THE UNIVERSE!!!” There has always been something consistently very wrong with McCain’s character. Through it all, this lying unreliable self-aggrandizing megalomaniac poses as a “straight talker”, and is so sick, he probably believes it himself, because he is JOHN MCCAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!, son and grandson of ADMIRALS.

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 10:03 PM

Oh, my gosh. Could this be the start of the Santorum surge in the polls that I’ve been waiting for since 2012?

joe_doufu on January 27, 2016 at 10:05 PM

Huck brings new meaning to a Hail Mary pass.

John the Libertarian on January 27, 2016 at 10:09 PM

I haven’t watched a debate yet. I will tomorrow night just to make sure Trump doesn’t get a boost from me…

ladyingray on January 27, 2016 at 9:30 PM

It could be interesting given the candidates that will be on stage. If only Kasich would have a hissy fit and refuse to participate.

talkingpoints on January 27, 2016 at 10:11 PM

LOLZ. ‘Second Corinthians’ is shorthand for ‘The Second Epistle/Letter to the Corinthians.’

Meanwhile, 2 Corinthians walk into a bar…

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 9:58 PM

Are you familiar with the fable of the 2 Kingdoms that went to war over which end a soft boiled egg should be opened from?

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 10:00 PM

Dude, I haven’t attended religious services since I was a young teenager and that was only intermittently. Nevertheless, even I know that it’s not 2 Corinthians.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 10:11 PM

So does that mean Santorum and Huckabee are basically endorsing Trump? Three times married, pro-choice Trump?

They have no chance. They’re not going to campaign.

Trump wouldn’t have them there if they were coming as rivals.

This election is getting stranger and stranger.

talkingpoints on January 27, 2016 at 10:19 PM

I just checked. He has 749K followers right now.

TeaTrekkie on January 27, 2016 at 10:00 PM

https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz 661k are you lying or just functionally illiterate

dio55 on January 27, 2016 at 10:19 PM

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 10:03 PM

Nailed that bastard!!!

they lie on January 27, 2016 at 10:22 PM

Aren’t they all phonies? What are they going to do, start a prayer circle and beg Trump for money?

WestVirginiaRebel on January 27, 2016 at 10:22 PM

https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz 661k are you lying or just functionally illiterate

dio55 on January 27, 2016 at 10:19 PM

Neither. He has another Twitter account just for his campaign: @tedcruz

TeaTrekkie on January 27, 2016 at 10:23 PM

https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz 661k are you lying or just functionally illiterate

dio55 on January 27, 2016 at 10:19 PM

Or maybe you should learn not to use two different twitter account’s numbers to try to create a false narrative, you silly moo.

Cruz Campaign 747K

Senator Tred Cruz 661K

WealthofNations on January 27, 2016 at 10:25 PM

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 10:03 PM

I agree, but I also stand by what I said. And to answer Tater Salad’s original question, I think that’s why veterans groups are keeping their distance; they don’t want the arguments in their ranks.

M240H on January 27, 2016 at 10:29 PM

Uhhh.. you guys get that this is a SuperPac, and not the Huckabee campaign, right?

And maybe Huckabee won’t surge to victory in Iowa…but he got 40,954 people to caucus for him in ’08 (compared to Santorum’s slim victory of 29,839 in ’12). If even a fraction of those voters stay loyal to Huckabee, in such a crowded field, he may well end up walking away with some delegates. And this is a delegate game.

ceruleanblue on January 27, 2016 at 10:31 PM

Dude, I haven’t attended religious services since I was a young teenager and that was only intermittently. Nevertheless, even I know that it’s not 2 Corinthians.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 10:11 PM

You have done the seemingly impossible and totally missed the point.

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 10:33 PM

I agree, but I also stand by what I said. And to answer Tater Salad’s original question, I think that’s why veterans groups are keeping their distance; they don’t want the arguments in their ranks.

M240H on January 27, 2016 at 10:29 PM

Well I was 6 different ranks, or half a dozen if you prefer, so I will just form my own group then and endorse Trump.

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 10:35 PM

Update: Ah, the final spiteful revenge for Cruz beating the pants off of them among their own base. Will it happen, though?

You follow polls a lot closer than I do, AP, so correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Trump beating all of them, including Cruz, “among their own base”?

Isn’t a more charitable, and probably more likely, explanation for joining Trump because they realize they don’t have a chance to win the nomination and they might as well help raise money for wounded veterans instead? And participating in the second-tier debate isn’t going improve their chances any, but participating with Trump possibly might?

FloatingRock on January 27, 2016 at 10:37 PM

And you have to admit…the ad has a point. I mean, why is super-evangelical Cruz so stingy when it comes to charity? Big Ivy-league lawyer, gets money from Goldman-Sachs…can’t afford it?

C’mon, we all know he’s a phony. Phony Tru-con, phony believer, phony natural born citizen. But talk radio has propped him up enough to fool a bunch of rubes.

ceruleanblue on January 27, 2016 at 10:40 PM

https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz 661k are you lying or just functionally illiterate

dio55 on January 27, 2016 at 10:19 PM

And Trump has 5,780k

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 10:40 PM

Or maybe you should learn not to use two different twitter account’s numbers to try to create a false narrative, you silly moo.

Cruz Campaign 747K

Senator Tred Cruz 661K

WealthofNations on January 27, 2016 at 10:25 PM

#rekt

thirtyandseven on January 27, 2016 at 10:44 PM

Huck and Santorum fit in well with Trump. I’m sure Trump will give them equal time. Lol!

I don’t begrudge the under card candidates doing something else. No one other than the pundits and political junkies pay attention to the under card debates.

Captain Kirock on January 27, 2016 at 10:45 PM

Now, taking deferments is alright, if that’s allowed. If those are the rules, you can play by them. But you forfeit the right to sh*t on ANY veteran’s service. I freaking hate John McCain, but when four deferment, silver spoon Donny took a public squat on McCain’s experiences … well, I don’t really have to go any further, do I? And now, to try to wrap himself in the flag with this little event, which has no precedent in his history, well, I’m throwing the bullsh*t flag.

M240H on January 27, 2016 at 9:57 PM

Good post. I feel the same way. It’s just a cheap political stunt.

Captain Kirock on January 27, 2016 at 10:53 PM

Nevertheless, even I know that it’s not 2 Corinthians.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 10:11 PM

Well known Bible scholar says one and two.

Incidentally, so does my Bible.

fossten on January 27, 2016 at 10:56 PM

You follow polls a lot closer than I do, AP, so correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Trump beating all of them, including Cruz, “among their own base”?

Isn’t a more charitable, and probably more likely, explanation for joining Trump because they realize they don’t have a chance to win the nomination and they might as well help raise money for wounded veterans instead? And participating in the second-tier debate isn’t going improve their chances any, but participating with Trump possibly might?

FloatingRock on January 27, 2016 at 10:37 PM

AP is actually a political analysis software program. It has no conception of what it means to be a normal human being. Thus, it cannot conceive of any motivation for behaviors other than to filter them through the prism of politics.

fossten on January 27, 2016 at 10:58 PM

AP is actually a political analysis software program. It has no conception of what it means to be a normal human being. Thus, it cannot conceive of any motivation for behaviors other than to filter them through the prism of politics.

fossten on January 27, 2016 at 10:58 PM

LOL!

NWConservative on January 27, 2016 at 11:02 PM

The a-religiousness Trump would count him in my favor.
The lack of free market credentials counts him out.

J.B. Say on January 27, 2016 at 11:12 PM

What is the RNC doing about candidates who refuse to attend its officially sanctioned debates?

KYpatriot on January 27, 2016 at 11:38 PM

Well known Bible scholar says one and two.

Incidentally, so does my Bible.

fossten on January 27, 2016 at 10:56 PM

Well, maybe, it’s just lost in translation. The Anglican Church didn’t refer to it that way nor did the KJV (that would be the version authorised by King James I of England and Ireland and King James VI of Scotland.

I actually have my old Bible. It says The Second Epistle to the Corinthians and is referred to as Second Corinthians…with Corinthians I being titled The First Epistle to the Corinthians. Granted, the Bible originally belonged to my great-grandmother on my mum’s side and is the 1917 version. Instead of the numbers 1 or 2, it uses I and II.

All that I will say – and I don’t hold this against Trump – he doesn’t appear to be a Holy Roller or particularly devout, which I think you could say that he sort of admitted. ‘My little wine and my little cracker’; ‘I go to Church on Christmas and Easter’; and never asking for forgiveness.

I can understand how interfaith marriages can play a roll, too. My mum was a lapsed Anglican and my father an agnostic Jew. I don’t doubt that he faced a lot of pressure to attend church when he was married, for example, to Ivana. IIRC, she is Jewish, as is Ivanka (and maybe the two older boys – I don’t know their preferences). So, I completely understand why one might move away from religion.

And, of course, Trump at least claims to be a Christian – an assertion for which I take him at his word. On the other hand, I do not.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 11:40 PM

How is he still even running? Man can’t wait until next week to get the pretenders out of here. Including the idiot Paul

The Notorious G.O.P on January 27, 2016 at 11:54 PM

Well known Bible scholar says one and two.
Incidentally, so does my Bible.
fossten on January 27, 2016 at 10:56 PM

That’s what they do with Second Corinthians… in Britain.

Moderator Frank Luntz asked whether Trump had ever asked God for forgiveness. “I am not sure I have,” Trump said. “I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”

“When I drink my little wine — which is about the only wine I drink — and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed. I think in terms of ‘let’s go on and let’s make it right.'”

If Trump is a Christian, then terms like personal sin, repentence, forgiveness, redemption and grace have no meaning. From First John 1:

8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Jumpintimmy on January 28, 2016 at 12:15 AM

And you have to admit…the ad has a point. I mean, why is super-evangelical Cruz so stingy when it comes to charity? Big Ivy-league lawyer, gets money from Goldman-Sachs…can’t afford it?

C’mon, we all know he’s a phony. Phony Tru-con, phony believer, phony natural born citizen. But talk radio has propped him up enough to fool a bunch of rubes.

ceruleanblue on January 27, 2016 at 10:40 PM

Donald Trump has built an entire life off of phony,and I’m saying this as someone who had him as my clear #2 previously.

I have never seen another candidate (though john Edwards is close) whose entire campaign and life story was built on such a foundation of horse sh!t.

All accounts about Cruz is he’s been a true,”tru con” since his youth.THAT’S WHY HIS FAILED COLLEGE ROOMMATES GETS TROTTED OUT to say “Zomg,he was ever conservative at Haaaavard”.

He’s very practiced in his presentation,but he’s the real deal.

Charliecrown on January 28, 2016 at 12:43 AM

I think allahpundit will be depressed as all hell to find out Trump really IS a pretty religious person, but does not feel ‘right’ in using it as a political point for the general media. He’ll say so in small-ish gatherings, but not make it a point on larger or televised occasions. He probably will if cornered on TV though, but the right question has to be asked, not by some ham handed lowbee like say, megyn kelly.

Andy__B on January 28, 2016 at 12:58 AM

The “candidates” from the undercard should join Trump? Sure, go for it, misery loves company!

RblDiver on January 28, 2016 at 1:17 AM

All accounts about Cruz is he’s been a true,”tru con” since his youth.THAT’S WHY HIS FAILED COLLEGE ROOMMATES GETS TROTTED OUT to say “Zomg,he was ever conservative at Haaaavard”.

He’s very practiced in his presentation,but he’s the real deal.

Charliecrown on January 28, 2016 at 12:43 AM

Cruz…Providing Legal Status For Illegal Immigrants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI

Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal stumping for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Supported the Corker Bill that would bypass Congress and backed Obama’s Iranian nuclear deal.

Massive increase in H1-B Visas.

Refusal to back legal enforcement expelling illegals (no jackboots). Instead he alongside Beck brought soccer balls and teddy bears to the lawbreakers.

Co-chair on the National Republican Senatorial Committee. The National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) was the financier for the race-baiting attack ads against Chris McDaniel in Mississippi.

2014 January 13, Hannity show – Rand Paul: “I will stay out of any race that involves an incumbent.” Looking toward Paul, Ted Cruz : “I’ll likely do the same.”

Ted Cruz on the Gang Of Eight bill…

Cruz:

I believe that if my amendments were adopted, the bill would pass. My effort in introducing them was to find solution that reflected common ground and fixed the problem.

CRUZ:

I don’t want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass.

Is this what you call a true conservative?

sharrukin on January 28, 2016 at 1:22 AM

I actually have my old Bible. It says The Second Epistle to the Corinthians and is referred to as Second Corinthians…with Corinthians I being titled The First Epistle to the Corinthians. Granted, the Bible originally belonged to my great-grandmother on my mum’s side and is the 1917 version. Instead of the numbers 1 or 2, it uses I and II.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 11:40 PM

At my church (Episcopal), the reader would preface it like “A reading from Paul’s second letter to the Corinthians” or the like.

RblDiver on January 28, 2016 at 1:25 AM

Worst circus ever.

KCB on January 27, 2016 at 9:42 PM

Agree.

Kenosha Kid on January 28, 2016 at 1:31 AM

Go. Away. Huck.

James on January 28, 2016 at 2:09 AM

Wtf is happening to our movement? We are turning on a real conservative for a trashy ahole liberal. We have been begging for years for a real conservative me we get the chance and we throw him away for Trump. The same jackasses that didn’t show up for Mitt are now going bonkers for Trump. I’m not a hugeMitt fan but he is light years better than trump. If you vote for Trump over Cruz you are liberal scum

SDRightWinger on January 28, 2016 at 3:03 AM

LOLZ. ‘Second Corinthians’ is shorthand for ‘The Second Epistle/Letter to the Corinthians.’

Meanwhile, 2 Corinthians walk into a bar…

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 9:58 PM

Are you familiar with the fable of the 2 Kingdoms that went to war over which end a soft boiled egg should be opened from?

VorDaj on January 27, 2016 at 10:00 PM

Dude, I haven’t attended religious services since I was a young teenager and that was only intermittently. Nevertheless, even I know that it’s not 2 Corinthians.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 10:11 PM

Nevertheless, even I know that it’s not 2 Corinthians.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 10:11 PM

Well known Bible scholar says one and two.

Incidentally, so does my Bible.

fossten on January 27, 2016 at 10:56 PM

It is definitely First or Second Corinthians, just like it is First, Second, or Third John. It’s often abbreviated in a reference to “2 Cor,” as in “2 Cor 1:8,” or even “2Co 1:8.” Bu just because the number is used in an abbreviation doesn’t mean you pronounce it “Two” instead of “Second.” Just like 1 Kings would be pronounced “the First book of Kings.”

Does it matter? Well, everyone pretty much knew what he meant. But it shows that Trump has so little familiarity with the Bible that he had no clue how to pronounce a reference.

People laughed at Obama pronouncing “corpsman” as “corpse-man,” and not knowing that there is no such language as Austrian. Why? Because we were always told how brilliant he is, yet he doesn’t know basic things. And when he seems not to know how many states are in the Union or how many years a president can serve, we’re less likely to believe he just slipped up on his statement, and more likely to believe he really had no idea.

Just to be clear, I have a lot more patience with Trump not knowing that you don’t pronounce 2 Corinthians as Two Corinthians than with people who try to argue there’s nothing wrong with it, just so they can pretend Trump didn’t make a goof.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 28, 2016 at 3:11 AM

I think allahpundit will be depressed as all hell to find out Trump really IS a pretty religious person, but does not feel ‘right’ in using it as a political point for the general media. He’ll say so in small-ish gatherings, but not make it a point on larger or televised occasions. He probably will if cornered on TV though, but the right question has to be asked, not by some ham handed lowbee like say, megyn kelly.

Andy__B on January 28, 2016 at 12:58 AM

This sounds more like wishful thinking than anything else.

There Goes the Neighborhood on January 28, 2016 at 3:13 AM

We have been begging for years for a real conservative

If you vote for Trump over Cruz you are liberal scum

SDRightWinger on January 28, 2016 at 3:03 AM

The same open-border people bankrolling Bush, Rubio and Walker are bankrolling Cruz.

It’s the same old “campaign conservative” game being played except now a critical number of people aren’t buying that tired BS.

sharrukin on January 28, 2016 at 3:15 AM

Huckabee, Santorum and Trump sounds like a good line up, and with CNN covering it, should be great!

ezspirit on January 28, 2016 at 5:00 AM

The 2 Corinthians are Huck and Santorum: perfect for Trump. 2 candidates who can siphon off some of the “not trump” votes that might go to Cruz. Even if the appearance gives them each only 1-2 points, it’s brilliant.

Skipity on January 28, 2016 at 7:44 AM

Maybe Ted really is a total douche

johngalt on January 28, 2016 at 7:50 AM

Huckabee and Santorum have their noses up Trump’s ass hoping that he awards them spots in his administration. Rather than stick with what they believe, these pathetic suck ups are attacking Trump’s closest rival in an attempt to garner some table scraps. They are disgusting and represent the absolute worst of Republican politics – two has beens that will do or say anything to regain power. maybe next election cycle they will join Charlie Crist and run as Democrats.

sixchickensleft on January 28, 2016 at 7:55 AM

Fact is that Iowa has never been a boost for any candidate’s prospects for the nomination.

If Trump wins there it is a sign — not the cause — that he will slam dunk the nomination with his strength across the board.

Younggod on January 28, 2016 at 8:08 AM

If even a fraction of those voters stay loyal to Huckabee, in such a crowded field, he may well end up walking away with some delegates. And this is a delegate game.

ceruleanblue on January 27, 2016 at 10:31 PM

So true.

If Huckabee can do that and take a similar proportion of the evangelical vote in the other primaries he could wrangle a dozen delegates out of his two years of campaigning.

Only 1224 short…..

Younggod on January 28, 2016 at 8:20 AM

Can we get rid of the JV squad interference?

voiceofreason on January 28, 2016 at 8:47 AM

We shall know them by their words and deeds. One thing we do not do is question someone else’s faith. Huck should know this and be ashamed.

Kissmygrits on January 28, 2016 at 9:21 AM

Well, he can always attend Drake U to debate Trump

Brock Robamney on January 28, 2016 at 1:31 PM

Huckabee is confirmed. Santorum is open, as well. Still waiting to hear details. Both will attend the undercard debate first. Hopefully there will be more surprise guests. Sounds fun!

ezspirit on January 28, 2016 at 1:36 PM