Trump: I didn’t like Fox News’s wiseguy press releases so “most likely” I won’t be doing the debate; Update: Campaign manager says he’s out

posted at 7:21 pm on January 26, 2016 by Allahpundit

Via Conservative Review, here’s one more reason to dread a Trump presidency. The sheer amount of petty drama would be exhausting after two weeks. Fox News alone would probably be barred from and then readmitted to White House press conferences half a dozen times in the first year depending upon how flattering their coverage was of His Yugeness at any given moment.

The fact that he won’t absolutely commit to skipping the debate even in the clip below, when he’s pretending to throw down the gauntlet over how mean the Fox News staffer who wrote today’s press release was, tells you there’s still a 95 percent chance that he’ll be there on Thursday. The media is oohing and aahing over Trump’s showmanship on Twitter as I write this but the truth is it’s a tactical error twice over, first because he can’t afford to let Cruz attack his record unrebutted on a big stage four days before Iowa goes to vote and second because it’s now in Roger Ailes’s power to exclude Trump from the debate if he wants to. All Ailes needs to do to kick him out is issue a statement explaining that debate logistics are complicated, that Fox has been blindsided by Trump’s boycott and is scrambling right now to re-plan the event without him, and that there simply won’t be enough time to overhaul everything again tomorrow if Trump changes his mind. They’ll have to go forward without him. Maybe Ailes won’t go that route; maybe he’ll call Trump up tonight, tell him to stop acting like a whiny baby, and then Trump will go out there tomorrow morning and claim that Ailes begged, begged him to attend until he couldn’t say no. At least, Trump better hope that’s what happens. Otherwise you’re going to hear about 18 variations on Thursday night of the question, “How can you stand up to China if you can’t stand up to Megyn Kelly?”

Unrelatedly, since I couldn’t find room for it elsewhere, here’s what tangling with Trump this month has done for Ted Cruz’s net favorable rating among Republicans:

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He took off in late October after one of the debates and cruised along near +50 until the start of this month, when Trump started calling him a Canadian and grousing that he’s been mean to poor Senate Republicans like Mitch McConnell. Now Cruz’s rating is almost as bad as — well, almost as bad as Donald Trump’s. And interestingly, even though Cruz has been whaling on Trump for “New York values” and partial-birth abortion and fake conservatism and so forth, Trump’s numbers haven’t really budged from where they’ve been. Maybe that’s just (further) evidence that opinions pro and con about Trump are absolutely fixed at this point whereas opinions about Cruz, who’s much lesser known, are still soft. Or maybe what we’re seeing here is mostly an artifact of Trump’s fans turning their backs on Cruz: All throughout the fall, during his “bromance” with Cruz, they gave him thumbs up. The moment Trump went after him, they switched to thumbs down. That’s good for a 16-point drop in favorables in the span of two weeks. No wonder he’s slipped in Iowa.

Update: Ailes must have dialed him up and told him to get bent.


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I am so over Trump! Bring on a grown-up.
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californiacitizen on January 27, 2016 at 9:54 AM

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A politician ? … acting like a GROWN-UP?
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(laughter deleted)

listens2glenn on January 27, 2016 at 9:56 AM

Above the scroll link on Drudge:

FLASHBACK: Ronald Reagan Skipped Last Debate Before IA Caucus – Went on to Win in Landslide

Wigglesworth on January 27, 2016 at 10:01 AM

So he is above criticism? Every move he makes is a smart one?

Talk about blind loyalty. You two sound just like The Obamatons.

Captain Kirock on January 27, 2016 at 3:09 AM

Then let’s use an objective measure. Go count the headlines in the last 6 months regarding Trump, as compared to those for each of the other candidates. Under nearly every headline will be some comment (maybe even from you) telling others how dumb Trump is. Now publish those headline counts of candidate mentions. Now compare that to his polling numbers.

Trump is smart. You are just jealous of that fact.

dominigan on January 27, 2016 at 10:02 AM

“Trump” rhymes with “chump”.
Coincidence?..you decide.

Mimzey on January 27, 2016 at 10:03 AM

Trump won’t show up?? There’s a good chance you’re being played for ratings.

Mimzey on January 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM

Go count the headlines in the last 6 months regarding Trump, as compared to those for each of the other candidates. Under nearly every headline will be some comment (maybe even from you) telling others how dumb Trump is. .

dominigan on January 27, 2016 at 10:02 AM

So your position is????…ratings and attention given by the lame stream media is what would make a good POTUS? We already have that. How’s that workin’ out?

Your claim that people are calling Trump dumb is not accurate. People have been calling the brainwashed supporters of Trump dumb.

Mimzey on January 27, 2016 at 10:09 AM

Here’s a decent compilation of the actual interactions of Trump and Kelly.
Overall, pretty good questions by Kelly and pretty good answers by Trump.
It’s too bad that the thing has devolved to what it is. In retrospect, Kelly shouldn’t have come out of the chute in that debate with what I consider an overly aggressive and accusatory statement/question, and Trump should man up and let it go.

justltl on January 27, 2016 at 9:13 AM

Yeah, the first debate was the beginning of this MK/Trump feud, and now the dust-up is a distraction and worse. It has lessened both of them.

Kelly and Baier had visions of grandeur during the run-up to that night, and their scenario for “firing” The Donald was admittedly rehearsed. That is not the job of a moderator, or it shouldn’t be.

That said, Trump’s current tantrum is certainly not presidential, and gives the appearance of the little spoiled brat who takes his ball and goes stomping home.

Then again, he might have some polling internals that he doesn’t particularly like, and be setting the table for a coming second place finish in Iowa. He doesn’t want to give up the “winning” narrative that is apparently moving so many and is possibly creating a ready explanation in case he doesn’t cross the line first.

justltl on January 27, 2016 at 9:39 AM

A very good analysis in my opinion. I am of the same mind.

hillbillyjim on January 27, 2016 at 10:17 AM

Overall, pretty good questions by Kelly and pretty good answers by Trump.
It’s too bad that the thing has devolved to what it is.

justltl on January 27, 2016 at 9:13 AM

In the real world, what it is is a publicity stunt. Reality show tactics.
By July there may be dance contests.

Mimzey on January 27, 2016 at 10:20 AM

I’ve appreciated the genius of his campaign from the opening Rapist start, but I think this might turn out to be Trump’s first real misstep.

This move doesn’t make him look ballsy or strong, just petulant and weak.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:27 AM

As quickly as his supporters flocked to him, Trump’s base can turn on him just as quick. (In fact I’d say it’s only a matter of time before they do – the only question is whether it happens before or after election day.)

He’s walking a finer line than he thinks.

everdiso on January 27, 2016 at 10:29 AM

TRUMP has just WON a Debate that hasn’t happened. FAUX News doesn’t know what hit them. Thus the ridiculous Press Release from FAUX.

The part ARAB owned UN-American News Channel will pay an even bigger price should Trump win the election. All the mainstream media are getting a chance to cleanup their act based on FAUX News mistake.

Nat George on January 27, 2016 at 10:32 AM

TRUMP has just WON a Debate that hasn’t happened. FAUX News doesn’t know what hit them. Thus the ridiculous Press Release from FAUX.

The part ARAB owned UN-American News Channel will pay an even bigger price should Trump win the election. All the mainstream media are getting a chance to cleanup their act based on FAUX News mistake.

Nat George on January 27, 2016 at 10:32 AM

The American tanks are not in the city, we are winning the war…Baghdad Bob.

right2bright on January 27, 2016 at 10:49 AM

I see I’m in a minority here, so I’m expecting the brickbats. That’s fine.

Four weeks ago, I loathed Donald Trump and was wondering what the heck I would do if Trump and Clinton were the candidates. I just figured I’d vote for whomever the Republicans nominated…unless it was Trump.

Since then pretty much every candidate has said or done something to make me dislike him or her. Jeb, against whom I had no objection originally, has succeeded in making me loathe him, and that was his own advertising. I always had doubts about Rubio, and I was very disappointed in Cruz for that remark about New York values. How incredibly dumb. (I also find it insane that no one seems to have a definitive answer about whether he’s eligible.)

Now the whole question about whether Trump is misogynistic…oh please. I read this website, Ace of Spades, Town Hall on a daily basis. While I share the opinions of most of the writers and most of the posters, I get so tired of the personal remarks directed at women, Hillary Clinton in particular. No one dislikes this woman more than I do, but her face and figure are irrelevant. I think we should clean up our own house before throwing any stones at Donald Trump, and for Megyn Kelly (whom I do like and often watch) to start a debate with that question is ludicrous. Without watching FOX all the time, I do watch it quite a lot, and I think that someone in charge has forgotten that FNC exists to serve its audience, not the other way around.

I guess I’m just saying that it doesn’t necessarily look to everyone as if Trump is running away from a debate he’s afraid of. It looks to me as if FNC, along with much of the Republican establishment, has its daggers drawn for him, and he’s fighting back rather effectively. If he doesn’t show, how many people are going to watch?

Clemence on January 27, 2016 at 10:58 AM

Via Conservative Review, here’s one more reason to dread a Trump presidency. The sheer amount of petty drama would be exhausting after two weeks.

It wasn’t petty drama. It was a successful play to control the message. His opposition hasn’t figured that out yet – as usual. Trump has a 100% hostile MSM. He messages by suckering the MSM into putting the spotlight on him, since they will not honestly evaluate his campaign promises.

In this case, I agree with Trump that it would have been a tactical error to appear on the debate, after the FOX press release. Had Trump appeared, the press release would be replayed to prove

1. Trump is so greedy he crawls back to be on the debate after the debate sponsors issue a press release implying Trump is a clown:
“has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to those meetings.”
2. Trump would lose his image as a man who does not jump through a hoop for the establishment (Jump, Clown, Jump)
3. Trump crawling back to the debate would be used to prove the ‘superiority’ of the other candidates

Here is what comes because Trump refused to jump through a hoop while they called him a clown:

1. Because FOX put its name on the press release, they opened themselves to examination of their claim of being ‘Fair and Balanced’
2. The other candidates foolishly joined together to denounce Trump (again) and end up looking like playground losers

To think, the other candidates had a second chance not to fall in the stupid trap, and they rushed right in

In the very short run, people who get their news from MSM, or in radio news shorts, will hear that Trump had a tantrum. However, those who hate the establishment will question the reports. Meanwhile, the scoop is out about FOX open borders lobbying, and the press release will eventually reach more people, who will decide that once again, the MSM and establishment tried to fool them.

The public knows Megyn Kelly is not critical to the survival of the republic, but the next President will either save, or lose, America. It might be a game to FOX, except we now know FOX has an open borders agenda. Whether it was hubris, or strategy to attempt to force Kelly into the equation to diminish Trump, the base will quickly figure out that FOX is part of the problem.

Trump scores

entagor on January 27, 2016 at 11:11 AM

TRUMP has just WON a Debate that hasn’t happened. FAUX News doesn’t know what hit them. Thus the ridiculous Press Release from FAUX.

Nat George on January 27, 2016 at 10:32 AM

Yep, this is brilliant.

Like in 2012; when Trump was both moderating a debate for NewsMax AND still holding open a chance to run as an independent.

Some candidates thought having another candidates as a “moderator” was partisan and chose not to show.

Megyn Kelly interviewed Trump on this.
Lets go to the video of Trump on what this means in 2012…

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1318694783001/trump-talks-2012/?playlist_id=86858&intcmp=obnetwork#sp=show-clips

Hmm, this “lacks courage” and a candidate should “have courage to show” even if they don’t like the moderator and he “thought Republicans had courage”.
Oh, and Megyn is “a really good moderator; way better than him”. She is “really good, I mean it”.
And, he clarified he wanted to “keep open his option to run as an independent in 2012 AND moderate a debate”.

So, do we attack Donald Trump for questioning the brilliant moves of Donald Trump?

That sounds odd…which of the Donald Trumps do you guys support?
The one that thinks a candidate should moderate a debate and you “lack courage” if you don’t show… and Megyn is a “really good moderator”?

Or the one who thinks skipping a debate is a good plan if you don’t like the moderator?

Let me guess. Both even through they’re on opposite sides?

gekkobear on January 27, 2016 at 11:17 AM

Coincidence?..you decide.

Mimzey on January 27, 2016 at 10:03 AM

There are no pure rhymes for Rubio, like orange. And, Bush and Huck, well…

Fallon on January 27, 2016 at 11:25 AM

Does America need a Chavez?

Does America need a Mao?

Do we need a strongman?

PappyD61 on January 27, 2016 at 8:46 AM

Does America need Amnesty?

Does America need TPP?

Does a party that has continuously betrayed its voters deserve to continue to receive our votes?

You are wasting your time. Go watch your SorosConservative debate and save your indignation for the failure that is the GOP

Brock Robamney on January 27, 2016 at 11:26 AM

Poor little man baby. That mean girl was going to ask him hard questions. Wahh.

bitsy on January 27, 2016 at 11:33 AM

justltl on January 27, 2016 at 9:39 AM

A very good analysis in my opinion. I am of the same mind.

hillbillyjim on January 27, 2016 at 10:17 AM

Thank you, sir.

Overall, pretty good questions by Kelly and pretty good answers by Trump.
It’s too bad that the thing has devolved to what it is.

justltl on January 27, 2016 at 9:13 AM

In the real world, what it is is a publicity stunt. Reality show tactics.
By July there may be dance contests.

Mimzey on January 27, 2016 at 10:20 AM

I was thinking maybe a pro wrestling type tag team match. Maybe Trump/Cruz vs. Kelly/Fiorina?

justltl on January 27, 2016 at 12:20 PM

I was thinking maybe a pro wrestling type tag team match. Maybe Trump/Cruz vs. Kelly/Fiorina?

justltl on January 27, 2016 at 12:20 PM

Yeeeah….me likey. Oil for the ladies and fair deal to pull hair for the men.

Mimzey on January 27, 2016 at 1:16 PM

Trump is playing the SorosConservatives and Faux News like a Stradivarius. The libs hate Faux News and this boycott will show libs he is not part of the GOPe clique

Brock Robamney on January 27, 2016 at 1:17 PM

Your claim that people are calling Trump dumb is not accurate. People have been calling the brainwashed supporters of Trump dumb.

Mimzey on January 27, 2016 at 10:09 AM

Funny, it is the vast majority of the anti-Trumpers that have to resort to name calling. Name calling is what you do when you can no longer debate on facts.

Btw, when are you going to discuss the two articles most of us have been linking to for the last 6 months? Here they are again, for your reading enjoyment…

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/08/09/gope-2016-road-map-to-victory-tree-house-challenge/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/09/for-ted-cruz-supporters/

I’ll await your informed intellectual discourse with us oh-so-dumb Trump supporters. But please try to use words with only one syllable. You know how we struggle communicating with you smart people!

dominigan on January 27, 2016 at 1:48 PM

Kelly has always continued her vitriol towards Trump. She has no business being a moderator.

Fox’s actions during this has lost them this viewer. I used to at least watch the 6 and 7 pm shows but why bother. New upper management has been bringing more leftist personnel so they are approaching msnbc type of attitude more and more.

TerryW on January 27, 2016 at 2:13 PM

Are there any Trumpers who are open to debate? Or does it only go one way with you folks?

Priscilla on January 27, 2016 at 8:09 AM

This is a joke… You’ve already showed your aggression and bias here, which says to me that a “debate” with you would be unproductive; I’d expect nothing more from you than condescension and insults as you blindly and arrogantly presume the motive of “Trumpers,” the M.O. of anti-Trumpers.

For a nice contrast to your style, read here:

justltl on January 27, 2016 at 9:39 AM

That is inline with how a conversation should be had. Unfortunately, people like you aren’t up to task, which is why “Trumpers” shouldn’t take your bait.

Get off of your high horse if you want to be taken seriously by those of us who recognize what you’re up to.

Anti-ControI on January 27, 2016 at 3:13 PM

He’s quite famous for his outburst at one of the debates with a reporter…

That doesn’t make for a consistent pattern of behavior like we’re seeing with Mr. Trump.

He left office as one of the more hated president’s in modern history and led to Barack Obama. I care what he did to the party’s image by not defending himself. McCain had to run against him in the general because it was so bad.

I somewhat agree with that. But, I think you’re minimizing both the power of the Liberal LSM and the human losses accrued in Iraq and Afghanistan. But these wars were a mixed bag as there was success overall, especially in Iraq. You wouldn’t know that listening to the Liberal reporters’ coverage and “analysis”. And, there was the onset of the Great Recession. I don’t blame that on Bush, but the connection was pumped up by the Press, nonetheless…thus, a Dem victory in ’08.

We both know that the Great Recession was brought about largely by the Liberal mortgage qualification policies that the Dem bureaucrats at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, et al were engaged in.

So then you will be happy to quote them right?

This thread is self-evident.

Bush lost the popular vote in his first election and won by the grace of the electoral college. His re-election was assured by a number of social conservative ballot initiatives throughout the country. And he lost Congress in 2006 by not defending his policies and his shepherding of anti-conservative bills like Amnesty and Medicare expansions.

NWConservative on January 27, 2016 at 2:50 AM

The Republicans lost the Senate in Reagan’s second term. Are we supposed to blame that on Reagan? Who would seriously posit the notion that Reagan hurt the Republican Party “brand”?

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 27, 2016 at 3:18 PM

Get off of your high horse if you want to be taken seriously by those of us who recognize what you’re up to.

Anti-ControI on January 27, 2016 at 3:13 PM

FauxNews got their wittle feelings hurt. Even though Trump has been on Faux 3 million times, they claim he is afraid to go on. Trump calls the shots. If they don’t like it, they can take a hike

Brock Robamney on January 27, 2016 at 3:22 PM

Lime at 11:18pm

Look at it this way. You couldn’t become Head of State in the UK nor here in the USA. The role of Head of State has a symbolic meaning and requires a natural born American citizen.

cimbri on January 27, 2016 at 1:12 AM

You’re damn right that I couldn’t become Head of State in the UK. I’m not a member of the House of Windsor. The monarch is the Head of State in the UK. That would be HM The Queen, not PM Muffin.

As far as becoming the Head of State in the US, it is a job that I would never want. In fact, I am on record many times that the COTUS shouldn’t be changed on the matter.

Lime in the Coconut on January 27, 2016 at 5:48 PM

I sure am impressed by Trump. As soon as he is sworn in as President he will have the White House torn down and have it replaced with one of those giant “Trump Hotels and gambling casinos !” It will be a beautiful sight ! It is time we American citizens got some “real money” pumped into Washington D.C. ! (sarc)

Bugdust172 on January 27, 2016 at 8:46 PM

Great move by Trump. He, as Limbaugh says, now owns the debate. After the debate he will get the ‘tough’ debate questions asked of him and he can answer them or not without fear of being attacked by the others in real time. Meanwhile his presence will be felt on the stage while the other mutter their usual talking points. If any other candidate had done this they wouldn’t have been missed at all.

MadJayhawk on January 28, 2016 at 12:43 AM

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